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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I know the distinction quite well. Who "elects" the government?
    Then that brigs us back full circle to this:

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    There's selfishness and not enough compassion for the fellow man. Where are the basic human values? Freedom, equality, compassion, integrity. You know that society has gone demonic when those things are lacking.
    The unexamined life is not worth living.

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    What are you trying to say, Fred? Don't beat around the bush. Did you watch the video I posted?

    I'm calling out for those universal values. I'm not saying that all hope is lost, there's just too much of that shit in society, that's all.

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    Here's my opinion, the video is interesting, but I felt he was a little 'loose' with his admonitions but I totally agree with him, anyway. What I see as the caveat here is that he is 'public' voice. People that act in that role should be circumspect to the extreme. For comedians it is no holds barred. But he IS an American and has the right to speak as he pleases as long as he isn't inciting people like Fred to violence... Que No?!

    I don't think Fred watched the video...and is feeling a little bashed, no doubt as the truth of Trump sinks ever deeper into his psyche.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    What are you trying to say, Fred? Don't beat around the bush. Did you watch the video I posted?

    I'm calling out for those universal values. I'm not saying that all hope is lost, there's just too much of that shit in society, that's all.
    We’re good man. Sure I watched the video, and that guy always makes a lot of sense to me, I just didn’t get the demonic thing is all. It certainly didn’t come from what he said, but I see a lot of frustration out there with Covid going on, combined with politics being more divisive than ever.

    Before the advent of Captain Chaos I thought things were going to be ok, and once he’s gone I think they’ll still be ok.

    Steady as she goes mate.

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    Hi DT,

    I've been watching Star Trek Discovery...TV SciFi has joined the modern age, it's pretty cool.

    I'll add the book I read referencing 'mycelium' was written more than a few years before Star Trek came of age... So it gets kudos for that.

    But now that I know what it is, I think it is freaking weird. I was reluctant to eat mushrooms before, it ain't gonna happen now, for sure.
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    You could take supplements. Then you can get all of the benefits without having to eat the fruiting bodies.

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    makes sense, I'll look into it...
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    Hey DT, in watching Star Trek Discovery, I started thinking that the writers were stepping dangerously close to a plagiarism charge by Neal Asher, who is the author of a series of books regarding the 'Polity' Pretty good stuff, but mostly to a 'man's' liking I suspect...lots of violence and war.

    Anyway, I got curious about it and did a search for Star Trek Discovery, Neal Asher, and plagiarism. Seems he does dedicate some of his Twitter account to speaking about the series, but in a flattering way...No plagiarism charges...
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    My bio-cousin sent me a picture of 'our' Uncle...Little George, seems he was a homicide detective for 37 years but quit because he got tired of seeing dead people. Truth...all of it this time... I suspect the dead thing was meant to be a joke, though. Cops, gawd...And I can't use the excuse that I was adopted this time...waitaminit, yes, I can.
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    This brilliant lady is at it again:
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    I just saw another police murder of an innocent black man...This may sound twisted but I think I would rather not meet my bio paternal line of relatives. My cousin says the Grandfather was a big 'asshole' with emphasis on big...His son was the detective and his son is a cop. Who I was thinking is my bio father was military police (and a boxer), and my would be half-siblings have proven to be unmitigated assholes. My cousin told me they were and have been at war with each other since he can remember.

    I'll pass...God does move in mysterious ways. I really think that if we did ever meet, I might end up dispensing with a few of them or vice-versa.

    Actually, he wasn't innocent but I don't think his was a capital crime...forgery...
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    Star Trek: Discovery or Derivative?

    The new Star Trek show is fairly well done. The graphics are great. So far, the storytelling is at least decent. It looks like they’ve thrown canon out the window, especially with the Klingons, but I’ll take it as an alternate universe like what DC does with Earth 1/Earth 2 etc. or Marvel does with its various numbered universes.

    And yet, while watching it, I can’t shake the feeling that I've seen it before. There seem to be many lifts from science fiction both recent and classic.

    First, the look of the Klingons. The Klingon Captain, L'Rell, has a head that seems straight out of an H.R. Giger picture. Perhaps the Alien got away from Ripley, landed on Kronos and shared DNA with the locals?

    And then the transport system. The idea of a galactic web allowing hyperspeed transport has been seen recently in John Scalzi’s The Collapsing Empire. Both are unreliable methods that don’t always work as desired. But, Scalzi can’t really complain as that system is derivative of the one used in the “Merlin” shorts by Alastair Reynolds.

    As for beings living in hyperspace, that was mentioned in the last Ringworld related book, Niven and Lerner’s Fate of Worlds, based on an earlier story by Niven, Borderland of Sol.
    As for “mycelial,” and “mycelium,” the terms used to describe the hyperspatial web, those are unusual enough to be noteworthy. Where have I seen them before? Oh yes, it’s all over Neal Asher’s “Polity” books.

    If CBS is going to mine the works of science fiction authors, why not give them a slice? I’m sure these authors would enjoy some of the scriptwriting cash for an episode or two, or to consult as Scalzi did on Stargate. There’s plenty of precedent, with the original series hiring SF writers regularly. Come on CBS, since you’re using their ideas already, give the book writers a piece!

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    I'm impressed with that analysis, NAP. As much as I call myself a sci fi fan, I wouldn't have caught all of that. Now I have some good source to go to.

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    Things are going chaotic in Minneapolis...my manager lived there for a few years when he was in college. I haven't had a chance to talk to him about all this but it would be interesting. He's a very thoughtful, soft spoken Asian immigrant from Vietnam. I don't believe he has the military history that many Vietnamese immigrants do. They're a different breed altogether. There is a simple word to describe most of them, arseholes, yet, I still have a few as friends. My barber/stylist for 10 years running is one of them...she fights with everybody, except me, that is, I always let her have her head...to keep her calm...

    As usual, Trump is birdcalling and entertaining his intrinsic racism, mental dysfunction, and stupidity
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    I spent much of yesterday listening to TED talks. Mostly about AI. We have a very large imminent issue looming with it. It learns new things and works to replicate itself. And we are replacing jobs with it at lightening speed.

    Andrew Yang was talking about Universal Basic Income which will be essential. Without it we will have a few very wealthy elite and most of the rest of us will be in deep poverty. And the AI will reflect our values, which at the moment are very individualistic. That will lead AI to having little concern for most people. This is something we cannot afford to ignore, although I'm not really sure what we can do about it.

    We don't plan well for disasters or catastrophes. Even when we know they're likely to occur.

    We, as in people, humans.

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