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    9/11 lie day

    It begins again in a few hours NZ time, 9/11 lie day.

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    They might have lied about who really did it and why, but there's no lie about how big of a mess they caused that day.

    Here's to hoping that the victims' families see justice in their lifetimes.

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    If you wrote 911 on glass and read it from the other side, the 9 could sort of look like an e.

    I remember watching Ed Zwick's Special Bulletin on network TV a few weeks before in 2001. Was woken at 12.30 or 1am or such, 12th of Sept here, by flatmate telling me to come look at the TV and something about what had happened, was thinking he was having a laugh. Remember having this instant feeling that it felt like a movie.
    The adrenaline from watching the events was so similar to the suspense created in the same genre of "Special Bulletin" (film was made in the narrative of being a movie length Special Bulletin, and when they went to ads, the real ads would play.)
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    I remember having the news on that morning so vividly. I'm on the other coast, so it was still early enough that I wasn't off to work yet. Sitting there watching, and seeing the second tower hit live was surreal.

    My family has friends in the NYPD. My dad and I went to visit a couple months after, and one family friend was in the crime scene unit. The had 2 trailers at Ground Zero. Each of them was full of 9 ft tables, each table packed with boxes of catalogued Polaroids of body parts recovered. Hanging on the wall of one of the trailers was Atta's drivers license - completely intact and not damaged at all. It immediately caught my eye, probably because it was the least emotionally overwhelming, but most shocking thing in the room.

    I stood there staring at it until our friend stood next to me and said, "Weird, huh?" I asked how on earth that was possible - not damaged. He said, "Stranger than that is we found his head, virtually unharmed otherwise, on a balcony 2 blocks away."

    Everything changed for me from that moment. Everything was suspect.

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    For 9/11 lie day.

    Something you might not have seen before.

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    Quote Originally posted by Rebel&Rocket View Post
    Hanging on the wall of one of the trailers was Atta's drivers license - completely intact and not damaged at all. It immediately caught my eye, probably because it was the least emotionally overwhelming, but most shocking thing in the room.
    And the story I remember behind that is that some anonymous person walked up to a clean up worker and just handed it to them.

    Atta also conveniently left behind a lot of other stuff. This is the guy who came to the US from Germany on a scholarship created by the former head of IG Farben who worked with the Nazis during WW2. He spoke not only Arabic but German and Hebrew (funny thing for a zealot fundamentalist Muslim to speak). When he was in the US going to titty bars and all of this other very devout Muslim stuff, he was always hanging out with people with stereotypically German names like "Hans," as Joseph Farrell points out.

    9/11 was the single event that really woke me up to things not being what they seem. I didn't think much about it when it happened, but in 2002 or 2003 I saw the documentary "In Plane Site." That's what really got me to thinking. I did some more digging and found Jim Hoffman's website, which had lots and lots of good information.

    One thing I hope people realize is that really good researchers were piecing together what really happened on 9/11 very quickly. Most of what people have figured out about it today came between 2001 and the final NIST report on WTC7 issued in 2008. The problem has always been trying to get the "mainstream" to pay attention. There have been television ad campaigns, public ad campaigns in New York, lecture tours from the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth group, radio programs, even some limited debate on mainstream news channels and CSPAN. But so far we have not been able to get anything going.


    The fact that September 11th is basically a holiday every year in the US now is a great opportunity to yearly campaign to remind people that it was a false flag.
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    Shamefully, I haven't watched but one documentary. I was so deep in it for a good year because of ties to people - going to NY, friends visiting here to get away for awhile - I was hearing so many stories all the time about people affected that I couldn't watch anymore.

    Funny, but they never told me someone walked Atta's license in. I assumed they found it onsite. That's very interesting.

    I can still taste that metallic taste in my mouth. The sites and stories will probably always be fresh, unfortunately. So much so that I was going to take on a project that would've put me in Boston for the last 2 weeks, returning tomorrow on a flight from Boston to SF. It creeped me out so much, just the thought, that I declined it.

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    I hope you didn't breathe in too much of that stuff. You know all the first responders and clean up guys were coming down with terrible cases of lung cancer and all kinds of other rare cancers. If I was in and around all that stuff I'd be considering a heavy metal detox. Of course that was like 15 years ago so if it caused any problems I guess they'd have manifested by now.

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    Yep, I know. I wasn't living there, and when I was there, I only stayed down in Battery Park city once - that was the next June. Otherwise, I always stayed uptown or in Westchester with friends. It's just a smell and taste you never forget.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    It begins again in a few hours NZ time, 9/11 lie day.
    So uplifting. When do we start doing something we can celebrate instead of marking the days they shit on us? Probably no time soon, unfortunately. People are convinced they can do nothing and that will be a self-fullfilling prophecy.
    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" -- Voltaire

    "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."-- Eleanor Roosevelt

    "Misery loves company. Wisdom has to look for it." -- Anonymous

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    A day I will never forget either...my husband(we weren’t married yet) and I were vacationing in Carmel, CA at a family friend’s condo. We were headed to Point Lobos for some sight-seeing and then planned on going further down towards Hearst Castle. We stopped at this family owned convenience store and I could faintly hear the excitement in a voice coming over the radio. I asked the girl behind the counter what was going on and she starts in by telling this long elaborate story about planes flying into buildings...I swear it seemed like her tale was going on for several minutes and honestly it sounded so absurd I almost couldn’t hear her anymore as I found myself analyzing her state of mind and every word. What she was saying seemed so inconceivable I seriously thought maybe she might be smoking something in the back of the store, but she appeared shaken and too sincere for it to be a joke. I paid for my things, grabbed the husband pulling him hard by the sleeve telling him something serious had happened and we need to get back to the car a.s.a.p. He thought I was being ridiculous until I flipped the radio on and we just sat there listening in shock. Our condo was a vacation condo, and not set up for daily living which is why there was no cable t.v. so we had no idea of the tragedy taking place when we first left earlier in the morning. Being a native Californian I knew driving towards Hearst Castle probably wasn’t a good idea under the circumstances as Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant is just within the vicinity and from what little we knew we could only assume our country was under some kind of attack. So we headed back to the location of where we were staying as we knew the clubhouse on premise would have a television....When we got there it was packed full of people who had stopped their golf games to watch. This was our first exposure to all that had transpired over the past several hours. I could not believe what was being shown on t.v. Suddenly I got this sick feeling and uncontrollable urge to call our family friends who loaned us the condo as I knew they traveled all the time. We headed back to the condo and I must have called a million times trying to get through or it sure seemed like it...I was getting pretty upset by this point, but thank god I finally reached them to find and they were all safe. My twin flame had said they were supposed to have been on the flight out of Logan Intl for business, but instead changed last minute and made a business stop in Madison, WI., so he and his boss were stuck there looking for a rental car to get them back to Boston.

    We still had two days of vacation left in Carmel, but seriously there was little joy in doing anything after watching what had taken place. With all planes grounded, no way we were leaving any time soon. How lucky that we had a rental car at our disposal. I’ll never forget the drive home,..long and unending as we were living in WA state at the time. It was dusk, quiet, and all I could hear was the silent hum of the vehicles on the road. I then realized everyone around us had out of state license plates and likely were driving rental cars attempting to somehow get back home. It was so surreal....and you knew that everyone surrounding you knew and you could almost feel the sadness and what everyone was thinking...they just wanted to get home.

    Like Rebel & Rocket I rarely watch anything about the event, nor did I ever do any hardcore research of the conspiracy theories, I can’t stomach it. And though we didn’t lose anyone directly, we have friends who did and have listened to their stories. It’s hard to imagine what it’s like for those having to re-live 9/11 on an annual basis.

    Prayers to the people and their families who have suffered tremendously.....there are no words ample enough to express the compassion and sorrow I feel for what they’ve had to endure.

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    Quote Originally posted by Novusod View Post
    For 9/11 lie day.

    Something you might not have seen before.
    Ta, I had not seen that one, imagine the states of minds of all those organising and doing this, beggars belief but lets all know what they are dealing with, gee they still be free.

    But how trapped.

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    The real criminals are still at large. Eventually the truth will come out. It always does.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Ta, I had not seen that one, imagine the states of minds of all those organising and doing this, beggars belief but lets all know what they are dealing with, gee they still be free.

    But how trapped.
    Here is another good one you might not have seen before. It is only 3 minutes long but it is hard hitting.


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    And of course, Dr. Judy Wood's forensic investigation book entitled "Where Did the Towers Go"? added detail. She even filed a suit in federal court over it, not to determine who did it, but what actually happened. I think ultimately it was determined that the explosion(s?) were caused by a material laid between the floors that caused the explosion. It was definitely determined that burning jet fuel could not create that much heat nor explosive power. It was dubbed a "controlled demolition". Also to further complicate things (on purpose probably) was the story about "NESARA" and it's release of global funds. A science friend of mine told me some time ago that before the explosions there had been many trash trucks coming out of the basements filled with gold bars. Apparently one truck didn't make it out and is still underneath the new construction.

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