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    Dilma Rousseff is Removed from Presidency in Brazil

    The Brazilian Senate just came from its deliberations and has convicted President Rousseff of budget manipulation after she is said to have taken loans out from banks in order to cover over problems with the budget.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/wo...president.html

    She has not been prohibited from running again for office though, so it's conceivable that she runs for re-election. She still has a lot of supporters in Brazil and a lot of Brazilians also suspect that this is all stemming from US influence in Brazil.

    Rousseff's replacement, Temer, is widely suspected of being a US puppet. Rousseff herself, Brazil's first woman president, had been a victim of a brutal US-backed regime decades earlier.




    The sign translates "Republic of the Coup."



    The senate which convicted Rousseff is itself eat up in corruption:

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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    The Brazilian Senate just came from its deliberations and has convicted President Rousseff of budget manipulation after she is said to have taken loans out from banks in order to cover over problems with the budget.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/wo...president.html

    She has not been prohibited from running again for office though, so it's conceivable that she runs for re-election. She still has a lot of supporters in Brazil and a lot of Brazilians also suspect that this is all stemming from US influence in Brazil.

    Rousseff's replacement, Temer, is widely suspected of being a US puppet. Rousseff herself, Brazil's first woman president, had been a victim of a brutal US-backed regime decades earlier.




    The sign translates "Republic of the Coup."



    The senate which convicted Rousseff is itself eat up in corruption:

    She made the wrong enemies with her corruption and her stumble was exploited by the West. I hope she learned her lesson and makes a comeback. Temer is so wrong for Brazil. Dilma was good for the people but, screwed some of the wrong people. Her fall and India's playing with USA is definitely a challenge for the BRICS bloc. SA is conducting itself well but, is so dysfunctional as a country. With regards to India, Russia has a real challenge of its diplomatic skills on its hands.
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    India signed a hundred of billion dollar with Russia and China . The deal is to build a high speed railway from China to Europe the steel industry have contracts to build day and night for next 10 years . Germany and France want the contracts 50,000 jobs serious but because of sanctions cannot build even one railway track.

    America offered alliance and empty promises but Russia arrived with cash and contracts guess which way India went yes Russia. World War 1 was fought over a railway to Iraq and Oil which would have undercut the British Empire shipping ( rules the waves) and took all the Oil contracts in Iraq .

    India and Russia and China is America worst nightmare and they caused it to come true War is not far away Turkey is preparing to invade Syria because the civil War has failed to remove Assad the fail coup was to remove all critics in Turkey a purge before they invade Syria but Russia will stop them military America is involved in Turkey side and China is on Russia this can get very messy very fast .

    Coming Bank failures defaults on pension riots civil war and international war blamed on Russia costing you your pension benefits children's allowance

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    Quote Originally posted by jonsnow View Post
    India signed a hundred of billion dollar with Russia and China . The deal is to build a high speed railway from China to Europe the steel industry have contracts to build day and night for next 10 years . Germany and France want the contracts 50,000 jobs serious but because of sanctions cannot build even one railway track.

    America offered alliance and empty promises but Russia arrived with cash and contracts guess which way India went yes Russia. World War 1 was fought over a railway to Iraq and Oil which would have undercut the British Empire shipping ( rules the waves) and took all the Oil contracts in Iraq .

    India and Russia and China is America worst nightmare and they caused it to come true War is not far away Turkey is preparing to invade Syria because the civil War has failed to remove Assad the fail coup was to remove all critics in Turkey a purge before they invade Syria but Russia will stop them military America is involved in Turkey side and China is on Russia this can get very messy very fast .

    Coming Bank failures defaults on pension riots civil war and international war blamed on Russia costing you your pension benefits children's allowance
    India just agreed on a defense deal with the USA and they can use its others ports for the military ships. India has a serious inferiority complex with China and a very unhealthy relationship with Pakistan. India is the problem child in Asia because of the chip on its shoulder. Kinda sad but, perhaps something that will get worked out moving into the future.
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    India is playing a game between Russia and America trying gain advantage

    China and Russia in New Strategic Energy Deals


    Column: Economics

    Region: Eastern Asia

    Country: China



    546464Only weeks after Russia’s Putin and China’s President Xi signed what was called the “energy deal of the century,” a $400 billion eastern gas and pipeline project over 30 years from Russia to China, the two countries have followed with a dazzling array of major new energy agreements from gas to oil to coal. Taken as a totality it amounts to a major strategic and geopolitical shift in relations between the two giant nations of Eurasia that will have implications for the future of Europe as well as the United States.

    On September 17, Russia’s Gazprom CEO Alexei Miller briefed Vladimir Putin on negotiations with the Chinese to supply China with 30 billion cubic meters of natural gas via western route over thirty years, according to the Russian Interfax news and Chinese Xinhua news agencies. Like the recent “eastern” gas pipeline deal, it too will run for 30 years. It will reportedly be signed between Gazprom and China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) in November. The two have also discussed the possibility of more than doubling or even trebling the gas volume later, up to between 60 billion to 100 billion cubic meters. The new deal on Russian western gas will partly utilize existing Russian gas pipelines.

    The new western pipeline gas deal is in addition to the major deal signed in May, 2014, between China and Russia after more than a decade of negotiating. That eastern or East Route Gas Project, calls for construction of a gas pipeline to provide China with 38 billion cubic meters of natural gas annually, from 2018. The East Route project, officially, the “Power of Siberia,” has just begun construction this month of a pipeline from the eastern Siberian city of Yakutsk, known as the coldest city in the world, and will cost an estimated $55 billion to be completed by 2018.

    Yamal LNG

    The two Russia-China gas pipeline projects are far from all being agreed between the two Eurasian countries at the moment. The deputy head of China’s National Energy Administration, Zhang Yuqing, announced on September 19, just two days after the news of the western Siberia-China talks, that China will “amplify cooperation” with Russian companies on Russia’s huge Yamal Liquified Natural Gas (LNG) project. The Chinese, who have been developing their own technology for creating LNG, will use their technology in the project in Yamal for gas deliveries to China.

    Russia’s Yamal Peninsula in northwestern Siberia, known as the Yamal Megaproject, contains some of the world’s largest known undeveloped reserves of gas. Significantly, China and Russia are discussing at the present time significant Chinese increased participation in developing LNG from Yamal. The current Chinese-Russian Yamal LNG project calls for China National Petroleum Company to drill 200 wells, create a pipeline system, gas treatment facilities and a liquefaction plant at the South-Tambeyskoye Field in Russia’s Yamal Peninsula. Russian gas company, Novatek, has 60 percent equity stake in the project. China’s CNPC and France’s Total hold 20 percent each.

    In 2008 Russia signed a joint venture with the US ExxonMobil to develop an adjacent Yamal gas field. Recent US and EU sanctions could, if increased, freeze the ExxonMobil deal. The Chinese decision is clearly being made by Moscow with an eye to possibly losing the participation of western companies because of future US sanctions.

    Coal Too…

    At the same time, in early September, the Russian state company, Russian Technologies, or Rostec, signed a $10 billion deal with China’s state-owned Shenhua Group Corp Ltd, the largest producer of coal in the world. It calls for the two to develop coal deposits in Russia’s Siberia and the Far East. The two

    companies will explore and develop the Ogodzhinskoye coal deposit in Russia’s Amur Region, with estimated coal reserves of 1.6 billion metric tons. Rostec expects coal production to start in 2019, with annual production reaching 30 million tons to be exported mainly to China.

    The Rostec-Shenhua cooperation will go far beyond the exploitation of Russia’s Amur coal. Rostec and Shenhua will also build a marine coal terminal at Port Vera in the Primorsky Territory, with annual capacity of 20 million tons. Construction will begin in 2015 and become operational in 2018 – 2019. That will enable Russia to vastly increase its coal exports to the Asia-pacific markets. In addition, the project involves building a power plant and high-voltage transmission lines to China, as well as social and transport infrastructure. That will help deal with the issue of power shortages in Russia’s Amur Region and China’s northern regions, and meet the electricity demand of those territories. It will also expected to create an estimated 10,000 new jobs and up to 30,000 jobs in related and associated industries.

    Huge Geopolitical implications

    Commenting on September 20, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev told Russian TV that, “Our collaboration with China is of strategic importance. We have great, brilliant political contacts, we have excellent economic relations. China is our strategic partner, and we are interested in expanding the volume of cooperation.”

    Taken as a totality, along with other measures by Russia’s Putin to deepen political, economic and military ties with China and the other nations of Eurasia, the latest energy agreements have the potential to transform the global geopolitical map, something Washington’s war faction will not greet willingly.

    The world, as I’ve noted before, is in the midst of one of a fundamental transformation, such as occurs only every few centuries. An epoch is ending. The once-unchallenged global hegemony of the Atlantic alliance countries of the USA and EU is crumbling rapidly.

    Washington and the powerful very rich families behind the power of Washington are clearly becoming frantic as to how to stop or reverse the deterioration of their global power. Even EU states, most especially German elite circles, are becoming fed up with the US neo-conservatives’ wars, fake disease scares around such things as Ebola, the Ukraine destruction that harms the EU but leaves Washington and Wall Street untouched. The coming months will be fateful beyond what most of us can imagine, with once-powerful institutions crumbling in power and other new institutions rising to replace their abusive power. The array of recent economic agreements between China and Russia is shaping this epochal shift.
    http://journal-neo.org/2014/09/28/ch...-energy-deals/


    Now China Blows Kisses to India


    Column: Economics

    Region: Southern Asia

    Country: India



    CI5434534No sooner did US President Barack Obama leave New Delhi with many warm hugs from India’s newly elected Prime Minister Narendra Modi, but with essentially empty hands, than China opened the door in an uncharacteristic manner. It signals China’s desire to strengthen cooperation with her traditional foe during the Cold War, India. The geopolitical implications, following only weeks after Putin’s high-level talks with Modi in India further strengthen the idea that a new geopolitical center of gravity binding Russia with China and now India, is solidifying across the vast Eurasian expanse. That is the one event Washington and their neo-conservative hawks like Susan Rice and Ashton Carter are apoplectic about.

    China’s President Xi Jinping made a rare gesture toward the new Modi government by making a private meeting in Beijing with India’s Foreign Minister, Sushma Swaraj. In my experience in China with a variety of Chinese from all levels, Chinese place great store on proper procedure. Normal procedure would be for Xi to meet only with Modi as head of India’s government, not with a mere minister. Rather China’s foreign minister should be the proper speaking counterparty. Xi’s decision to meet Swaraj underscores the growing effort of Beijing to develop deeper cooperative ties with her historic rival in the Indian sub-continent. During and after the Cold War, China’s main ally in that region has been not India but Pakistan, India’s bitter foe.

    Now, since Modi embraced the creation of the new BRICS infrastructure development bank of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, and with the escalating US military pressures of Obama’s ill-conceived “Asia Pivot,” China is looking to firm closer ties to Modi’s India.

    Xi told the Indian minister that he wanted China and India to grasp the “opportunity of the century” to combine their development strategies, and push ahead with their strategic cooperation on railways and industrial parks to benefit the 2.5 billion people of the two countries as well as the global economic development. India is considering joining Beijing’s vast New Silk Road. Xi arranged a special visit for the Indian Foreign Minister to Kunming in China’s south near the Laos border. Kunming is the starting point for China’s New Silk Road high-speed rail project.

    Closer ties

    The Indian minister’s discussion with President XI was part of preparation for a state visit to China by Modi following the visit of Xi to New Delhi last September. Modi, who took office only in May, 2014, has already had three personal meetings with China’s Xi. In a personal gesture of the high priority China now attaches to cementing strong Indian relations, Xi will invite Modi to Xi’s hometown in Shaanxi province.

    Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj was in Beijing for the third annual meeting of foreign ministers of Russia, China and India. At that meeting, the three countries of the BRICS issued a joint communique which among other points, “agreed that Russia, India and China should enhance their cooperation in think-tanks, business, agriculture, disaster mitigation and relief, medical services and public health. The Ministers explored potential for cooperation in oil and natural gas production and transportation, as well as in other fields of energy, high tech, environmental protection and connectivity.” They also declared that the three nations were “determined to build a more just, fair and stable international political and economic order in accordance with the purposes and principles of the UN Charter, the Five Principles of Peaceful Co-Existence and other basic norms of international law,” a clear reference to the lawless disregard of Washington for the UN Charter in either Syria or Ukraine.

    Washington gets nervous

    On top of the very successful visit of Russian President Putin to India in December where the two signed economic deals worth some $100 billion, what is emerging is a stark contrast to the Washington-influenced regime of Modi’s predecessor, Manmohan Singh who signed an agreement with the Bush Administration for military and security cooperation with Washington, a move aimed at giving the Pentagon an ally in Asia against China. Washington is clearly getting nervous.

    Susan Rice, Obama’s bellicose Security Adviser announced on February 6 that President Obama has invited Chinese President Xi Jinping for a state visit this year. In contrast to his visits to India and his meetings with Putin, Xi’s last visit to the US was in June, 2013. Xi’s first foreign trip as new President was to Moscow to meet Putin.

    Rice’s comment as to the aim of the Obama invitation to Xi spoke volumes about the fundamental divide between the two countries today. She said, “With China, we’re building a constructive relationship that expands practical cooperation across a wide spectrum of issues from global health to non-proliferation, even as we confront real differences over human rights, cyber-enabled economic espionage, and the use of coercion to advance territorial claims.” The Chinese government daily, China Daily wrote articles last year identifying the role of the US government in creating the Hong Kong “Umbrella Revolution.” Xi is not impressed when Washington chides China on “human rights.”

    A decisive turn for China India relations will come in this summer at the annual meeting of the China-Russia-dominated Shanghai Cooperation Organization. India has long expressed interest in joining but hostilities and mistrust during the previous Singh government led Beijing to reject the idea. It will be interesting to see what Obama has to offer Xi beyond military encirclement and lectures on global warming.
    http://journal-neo.org/2015/03/05/no...sses-to-india/

    China Railway links Ethiopia to Red Sea


    Column: Economics

    Region: Eastern Asia

    Country: China



    23423433Nothing could be more symbolic of the decline of Europe and the rise of Eurasia than the construction of a modern railway from the Ethiopian capitol of Addis Ababa to a port on the Red Sea in Djibouti. The Rail line is being built by Chinese Civil Engineering Construction Corporation and China Railway Group (CREC). It replaces an old delapidated rail line built by the French during the period of European colonization of Africa at the end of the 19th Century.

    What, where, when…

    The Chinese rail company is going to make the entirely new 656-kilometer electric rail line from the Ethiopian capitol of Addis Ababa to the Red Sea Port of Djibouti fully operational at most any moment now. The project will create 5,000 local jobs, and allow Ethiopia to boost exports of key commodities such as coffee and sesame. It also offers the opportunity to get Ethiopian workers trained by engineers from the Chinese Civil Engineering Construction Corporation. To date 250 Ethiopian students have been trained in China in the railway sector, a good address as China today is the world’s leading builder of railways.

    It will cost $1.2 billion with the Export-Import Bank of China financing 70 per cent and the Ethiopian government 30 per cent. It will be one of the first electric trains in East Africa, with a speed of 120 kilometres an hour. It will reportedly be easier and cheaper to maintain than the former French diesel locomotives, the last of which shut down in 2008, as it will be mechanised, relying on locally-produced hydropower to run.
    http://journal-neo.org/2016/04/13/ch...ia-to-red-sea/
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    America is broke heading for third world status there debt is over 100 trillion and is unpayable . Default means war for the rich will not take a hit on 100 trillion or civil unrest maybe both .India made 100 billion from china but are buying weapon systems from America would you rather spend or earn money .

    India has fought a War against China and Pakistan over disputed land it is unresolved in both case stalemate each side claims it

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    Quote Originally posted by jonsnow View Post
    America is broke heading for third world status there debt is over 100 trillion and is unpayable .
    Everyone is in debt. Europe is in more debt collectively than the US is. Most countries on Earth are in debt. We are all in debt to the banks, because they are running a scam on everyone. If someone were to bust up the banking cartels, nationalize currencies and that kind of thing, we wouldn't have nearly as many problems as we do today, and we could get manufacturing and all that back up in no time.

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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    Everyone is in debt. Europe is in more debt collectively than the US is. Most countries on Earth are in debt. We are all in debt to the banks, because they are running a scam on everyone. If someone were to bust up the banking cartels, nationalize currencies and that kind of thing, we wouldn't have nearly as many problems as we do today, and we could get manufacturing and all that back up in no time.
    Agreed. The most important issue facing USA is the Fed. We cannot have prosperity with money from nothing with interest. Notice there is no mention of it in the election. IMO, it is the only issue to focus on. Immigration pales as a thread compared this institution. Americans need to wake the fook up. It applies to other countries as well but, a first world nation is headed for the dumpster because of squandering the human resources that could give us real value and money with labor and production. Yes, NAFTA is an important issue to deal with for jobs but, we need to be free of taxes that pay a corporation instead infrastructure and services.
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    The federal reserve is not the problem who budget is only peanuts . Congress is the problem who spend a million times what the fereral reserve spends . the federal reserve is a private bank who are a reserve of the big banks yes it is privately owned but the treasury deparment limits there profit to 500 million a year and they cannot print money unlimited dispite what people think . Congreess likes the fereral reserve to take the blame.

    2034 China will be the new superpower it just time America third world country .

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    On the Brazilian Coup story, Bolivia, Venezuela and Equador have pulled their ambassadors as a signal of protest.

    The article linked is from terra.com.br and written in Portuguese (pt-BR), feel free to use translate.google.com.

    On a side note, since the OP mentioned that 60% of legislative body have cases opened for money laundering and bribery. Dilma's own political party has had their hand caught in the cookie jar. She herself has taken part in state articulations that are describable in the nicest possible terms as "questionable". I don't think it is a fair characterization to suppose that bribery and money laundering are really the main issue that lead to her political demise. Indeed it is important to understand that there is absolutely no evidence suggesting that she could have arrived to her position of power if not for the influences of bribery and money laundering in her midst.

    And that is a criticism often leveled at her, she defends herself by claiming she "doesn't know", which begs the question, what does she know. We are talking about the president of the country, who take part in a Petrobras executive counsel who is uninformed, unaware and unrecognizing of things officially trusted to her? Just how much negligence is she willing to admit to?

    And it is that point that nobody questions in the 60% of legislators when it relates to their cases. As legislators are people of political influence, they have a specific court that hears their cases and applies the highest standard of proof possible (a different and separate standard indeed) in a way that is designed to protect them.

    Regardless of the legal basis of her impeachment, it is clear to me she is very unpopular (misalignment of interests) in the senate and in the house. Popularity issue in guise of a legality for the basis of an impeachment is indeed a coup. That misalignment of interests has a lot to do with the nature of how the politics are being practiced rather than whether illegalities are happening. The fact is, her articulations lead to her political isolation, it made her vulnerable as even legislators in her own party became resentful of her.

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    She was awful, glad she is gone. Doubt the next group of leaders will be much better.

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    The San Paolo protest in 2015 was fun though, like another carnival and 2016 was 5 times bigger.
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    Quote Originally posted by jonsnow View Post
    The federal reserve is not the problem who budget is only peanuts . Congress is the problem who spend a million times what the fereral reserve spends .
    The Federal Reserve is our national bank that loans money to the US government to spend and determine interest rates on it.

    The idea of a national bank in the first place has been a controversial issue since the very first presidency under George Washington. It was a big argument between Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson, with Hamilton arguing that we needed the "money" (imaginary money) while Jefferson argued that it was just a way for foreign interests to exert powerful influence in the internal affairs of the US government by controlling its wallet. And Jefferson was right.

    When Andrew Jackson killed the national bank by vetoing the renewing of its charter in 1832, a bubble burst almost immediately which the banks had already been creating, and the US went into a recession. After that we had no central bank until 1913 and we developed a strong enough economy without it.

    "And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Taylor, 1816



    Quote Originally posted by aKnightThatSaysNi View Post
    The San Paolo protest in 2015 was fun though, like another carnival and 2016 was 5 times bigger.
    My girlfriend from Brasilia says that this is why Brazilians really protest politics. They just want to have a giant party in the street.
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    Quote Originally posted by jonsnow View Post
    America is broke heading for third world status there debt is over 100 trillion and is unpayable . Default means war for the rich will not take a hit on 100 trillion or civil unrest maybe both .India made 100 billion from china but are buying weapon systems from America would you rather spend or earn money .

    India has fought a War against China and Pakistan over disputed land it is unresolved in both case stalemate each side claims it
    Most debt is entirely fraudulent. The real question is how did the bankers steal an entire planet from it original inhabitants and reduce the population to perpetual financial slavery? The answer is simple. They create money out of thin air and use it to buy every government, corporation, and stock market leaving massive profits for the bankers and debt for the people. Money conjured up out of thin air should never be paid back because it is theft and fraud backed up by violence. It is just a matter of time before the human race wakes up to greatest scam in history. It is already happening. That is why the BRICs alliance was formed.


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    The Bank lend out money okay much more than they have in cash however in times of difficulty when people come looking for there money back the Banks have no one to lend them money so a Central Bank lends them money so that the Bank survives . The 1930;s crisis was so bad because all the Banks had very little cash and everyone wanted there money back so Confidence in Banks collapsed so a run on Banks.

    The Federal Reserve does not really control interest rates the market does by buying and selling it is mostly a game of confidence . The federal reserve can mostly influence short tern rates at best but even this is coming to a end as pensions are collapsing because of low interest rates very soon the Federal Reserve will be forced to raise rates by the market when rates rise the game is over because debt is 20 trillion budgets will spiral out of control property taxes will go huge and services will be cut to the bone pension will be defaulted on . the federal government will privatise all private pension funds only buy government debt because of bad fees people are being charged basically you lose everything..

    Thomas Jefferson destroyed the bank of America and made a mess because everyone created there own bank and printed there own money so which money was real and which was not it created a huge banking crisis.

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    Quote Originally posted by jonsnow View Post
    Thomas Jefferson destroyed the bank of America and made a mess because everyone created there own bank and printed there own money so which money was real and which was not it created a huge banking crisis.
    Can you provide a source for this please, that Thomas Jefferson "destroyed the bank of America"?

    Thomas Jefferson argued against the first national bank, but George Washington allowed Hamilton to create it anyway. It had nothing to do with there being too many currencies and people being confused about "which money was real." Most people back then still didn't even use cash currency to make transactions. They mostly directly traded their goods and kept accounts with local stores of goods by the value of those goods taken and deposited (tobacco, cotton, etc.).

    What do you think a dollar bill is actually supposed to represent?

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