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    Dave Cleveland - Roman Empire Rules Today

    For education purposes, nothing fancy with the presentation but the information is excellent. Ideal for the newly awakened.

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    Irrefutable proof of the predictions in the Book of Revelation regarding the Beast and the Whore, the Secret Cabal that rules the world behind puppet dictators and "leaders."

    KNOW YOUR HISTORY; HISTORY REPEATS, THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE: 1st REICH, 2nd REICH, 3rd REICH & NOW THE RISING 4TH REICH… EU in the Bible, THE WHORE OF REVELATION.

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    I think this would make Sylvie (Newearth) gag. I'll bet it is based on Scaligerian history and rotten to the common core. After listening to every Newearth video and seeing the tampering with history, almost anything out of a history book makes little sense to me now. Not even sure some 'herb' would help. Listening to Joseph P. Farrell my kind of video time well spent.

    Please don't feel offended, Innocent Warrior. You do the forum a service by posting things you find of interest. Aragorn and I both rag on the George Noory video's Malc posts too. After thanking the post, of course.

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    No probs, I'm not offfended.

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    I've been spoiled by Fomenko's work the same way, which I think I only first started paying attention to because of Sylvie. Now every time I hear something about the ancient Egyptians or Romans or Greeks I have to start translating the bullshit in my mind into a real time period.

    That's not to say that the info isn't useful, but I'm not interpreting what I'm hearing the same way as the guy who's saying it in the video.
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    Quote Originally posted by Innocent Warrior View Post
    No probs, I'm not offfended.
    Thank you. I really appreciate you and your contributions.

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    I've been spoiled by Fomenko's work the same way, which I think I only first started paying attention to because of Sylvie. Now every time I hear something about the ancient Egyptians or Romans or Greeks I have to start translating the bullshit in my mind into a real time period.

    That's not to say that the info isn't useful, but I'm not interpreting what I'm hearing the same way as the guy who's saying it in the video.
    Well said, and I do not have a replaced time frame but, a more open one that does not need to operate so much from a defined timeline. I can feel the ancients are closer in time than we are told in our schools.
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    Fomenko was able to match up a lot of ancient and medieval dynasties with the Hapsburg dynasty that was probably the original prototype, taking place in what we'd call the 1200s-1600s (around 400 to 800 years ago in other words). The ways in which the other derivative histories were created make it more complicated for each specific fabricated dynasty but that's the general idea. For what was covered up by all of this nonsense we pretty much only have the myths, legends, and fairy tales to consult with, though archaeology can also give very provide very detailed and concrete information.

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    Type in Piso Bible and you'll find an entire twist on Roman history also.

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    Quote Originally posted by Jengelen View Post
    Type in Piso Bible and you'll find an entire twist on Roman history also.
    Thanks for sharing that Jengelen. I looked it up and mostly what I found was from the Biblioteca Pleyades website which I thought presented a kind of jumbled argument that seems based only on reinterpreting words in the Bible and the early church fathers.

    For those who aren't familiar with Fomenko's work, his revision is more radical: he shows that the books of the Bible weren't completed and canonized until the medieval period, that they describe medieval events, and that ancient Greek and Roman history is a forgery based upon medieval history, also committed by the Catholic Church. Also that the New Testament is actually older in the content it describes, than the Old Testament. Fomenko believes Christianity was formed around 1000 years ago (what we'd call 1000 AD) based on indigenous pagan sun religions which it drew from.

    It takes some familiarity with the medieval period to get an idea of how all of this happened and how it is argued by Fomenko. He originally came to suspect all of this for mathematical reasons (he is Professor of Mathematics at Moscow State University), involving an astronomical model based on data in Ptolemy's supposedly ancient volume, the Almagest. His first book is available in pdfs online for free and is loaded with superbly researched information.
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