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    We are the Dream Doctors - We Are !!!!!

    Dream Doctors may be likened to Jose Arguelles's depiction of Mayan Time Engineers, using ones now to create the future.

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    https://www.scribd.com/document/9477...ayan-Astronomy


    two events.III. Triumph of the Mayan Time Engineers According to Arguelles the advanced time-science of the Maya includes more than the ability to trackand predict events. The Galactic Maya are actually time engineers, able to manifest prophetic events inthe future. On a macroscopic level we can see that the archaeological restoration of ancient Mayancities, and the reconstruction of many other aspects of the culture has taken place over just the lastcentury of the 13 baktun cycle, signaling the rebirth of Mayan civilization on a planetary scale.Especially important to the work of Arguelles, was the precise timing of the discovery of the tomb of Pacal in 1952 (coincidentally the same year Yuri Knorosov took the first steps forward in deciphering theMayan hieroglyphic language), and later the discovery of the tomb of the Red Queen in the adjacentpyramid in 1994.In 2010 I wrote an article in anticipation of the full lunar eclipse that occurred on the southern(December) solstice of that year. Similar to how the Dreamspell synchronizes the Dresden eclipse tableto the year 2012 (13 Muluc = November 13), the traditional long count was precisely synchronized to theDresden eclipse table in 2010.see article at http://www.scribd.com/doc/45237172/F...010Unbeknownst to myself at the time, in 2010 archaeologists made a very important discovery in theMayan ruins of Xultun in Guatemala. On the walls of a fairly unassuming building they found paintedmurals, including calendrical operations (such as "ring numbers") and astronomical calculations (adefinite lunar table, and probable Venus intervals). This marks the first proof that these prominentfeatures of the Dresden Codex were utilized by the Classic Maya, more than 500 years before theDresden was created.Following the initial discovery in 2010, the murals were excavated and studied throughout 2011, and onMay 11, 2012, just nine days before the eclipse, the initial findings were published in the journal Science.On May 15 Barbara MacLeod sent a message (Xultun Number A and the 819-Day Count) to the Aztlanlist-serve with the following quotes:For listeros not familiar with this cycle, 819 is the product of 7, 13, and 9. <...> a few daysago Michael Grofe said that he suspects <the 819-day cycle> to be an “idealized systemfor tracking the sidereal position of eclipses”.Number A—1,195,740—is evenly divisible by 819. This property of the interval is notmentioned in the <May 11 Science> article. Upon closer examination and further discussion with <Hutch Kinsman>, I have concluded that this property is the uniquerationale for Xultun Number A. It is 63 x 18,980 and 4 x 819 x 365. <...> The number [63 x18,980] is also the smallest unit which commensurates the 819-Day Count with theCalendar Round.























    If Grofe is correct this means that the number 63 is central to the Mayan understanding of eclipse cyclesin relation to the fixed stars (63 x 13 = 819), and MacLeod's analysis of Xultun Number A demonstrates adirect relation of the number 63 to the Calendar Round of 52-years. It is well known, from records of thefamous New Fire ceremony, that Mesoamerican astronomers linked the Calendar Round to the fixedstars via the Pleiades constellation. According to John Major Jenkins it is precisely this connection thatallowed the builders of Chicchen Itza to forecast the sidereal location of the May 20 eclipse directlyconjunct the Pleiades. As if that wasn't enough, in the 1970s Floyd Loundsbury (using the GMT +2 astronomical correlation)conducted a study of discrepancies in the inscriptions of Palenque that led him to identify an importantoccurrence of this same 63 Calendar Round interval, precisely synchronized to the tropical date May 20.(July 24, 2587 BC (1.6.14.11.2.) plus 1,195,740 days is May 20, 688 AD (9.12.16.2.2)).In 2010, less than one year before he passed away, Jose Arguelles published a book (Book of theTranscendence) that demonstrated an important correspondence between the numbers 63 and 252(based on the same "magic square" relation of 64 to 260 presented in his earlier work). If the number 63is used to predict the sidereal location of eclipses, and intrinsically related to the number 252, we canthen see the Galactic Mayan intelligence behind the Dreamspell kin number of the May 20 Pleiadianeclipse, which, as mentioned, was 252.Considering the insinuation of Xultun into the timing of all this, with its "Number A" of 63 calendar rounds,we can appreciate some of the incredible time-engineering capabilities of the Galactic Maya. ButXultun's message for 2012 doesn't end just there. On May 23 Carlos Barrera Atuesta circulated adocument demonstrating how Xultun Number B correlates the cycle of 63 Calendar Rounds to the"super number" of the Dresden Venus Table. Xultun Number C addresses popular misconceptionsabout the significance of 2012, by taking us thousands of years beyond the closing of the current 13-baktun cycle.Indeed, the Galactic Maya have left as their legacy to the present age a great gift. With the toolsprovided, we have this opportunity to step beyond the artifice of history, into a future of harmonicsynchronization with the natural cycles of time. Seven baktuns from now, when the infatuation withdoomsday has long since passed, may it be said that the kin of the closing of the cycle made the mostof this most auspicious occasion. Aaron Woolrich, kin 081NS 1.24.11.23, kin 25612.19.19.7.9 1 Muluc= 12.19.17.17.9 + 1.8.0For more context:http://www.scribd.com/doc/61001771/R...stice-2010(The original version of this article, written the morning of the Pleiadian eclipse, was eaten by mycomputer, or possibly Tzitzimime, just before completion. By the afternoon fortune changed, and,despite a cloudy forecast, I was able to witness the eclipse in its entirety from just east of Mt. Shasta,blessed during totality with the brief apparition of a sundog.)







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    As we remember the actual truth of our old dreams done ( lives (dna) and soul lifetimes ), knightmires in reality dreamed by others, and know the power and strength of our own dreaming, collectively and micro in now and lately time, We are the doctors, the Healers cutting away the false narrative, pouring into the wound a salve of harmonics unbearable to the knightmires creators. May we doctor and dream for all to know peace within, that true scars are of the mind, that DNA can evolve, improve, even in a generational way to clear ancestors, that we can all eat of gods heart.

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    We can plants seeds with our now present dreams, and we can plant trees, what be a tree to a seed, a further action of oneself for another and sometimes anothers resistance/wall they have set up due to a past knightmire

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    We can feel it, anothers dream mirrored and also anothers knightmire, that's when ones real self mastery begins, seeds and tree planting may be replaced by dream trapping for these ones knightmireing, being clear Audi ant helps, if they fall into your told dream happening, walls may disintegrate, searching and researching may start.

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    The main dream that is doctoring our future nowadays, imo comes from knowing what we do not want, to suffer, suffering is of the mind ultimitly though a heart can measure this of course, being present and blessing suffering outside of oneself may be considered living in ones dream, knowing one is changing the world doing this is being the dream.

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    Scouting ahead and preparing for what is to come is a big part of dreaming. It is, I believe, a strong source of deja vu. It was seen before in a dream. We have that and many other capacities. We manifest the dreaming into our reality. If suffering comes with it, it's part of what life's teaching us (imo). But beyond the suffering is the beauty of creation and life.

    Generally speaking, we can learn things the easy way or the hard way. Dreaming gives us a chance to see how bad the hard way just might be and the opportunity to choose better. It's not necessary to recall details. Just trust your instincts or your higher self (which I believe is always present in dreaming).

    I hope I've commented appropriately in the thread. I'm no expert on Arguelles.

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    He was only a messenger, just like you and me and he was the best reference to use on subject.

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    Was searching regarding Harmonics and came across this thread. The documents you linked to have been deleted, alas.


    The Galactic Maya are actually time engineers, able to manifest prophetic events inthe future.
    Six Nations people, and others, understand the Dreamtime and the ability to bring forth or avoid what is seen in Dreams. Dreams are, of course, a potential source of visions because the future possibilities can be seen. The native Americans had an understanding and appreciation of dreaming and time that must have been mind blowing to the Europeans.

    In 2010, less than one year before he passed away, Jose Arguelles published a book (Book of theTranscendence) that demonstrated an important correspondence between the numbers 63 and 252(based on the same "magic square" relation of 64 to 260 presented in his earlier work)
    With the toolsprovided, we have this opportunity to step beyond the artifice of history, into a future of harmonicsynchronization with the natural cycles of time.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
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    two events.III. Triumph of the Mayan Time Engineers According to Arguelles the advanced time-science of the Maya includes more than the ability to trackand predict events. The Galactic Maya are actually time engineers, able to manifest prophetic events inthe future. On a macroscopic level we can see that the archaeological restoration of ancient Mayancities, and the reconstruction of many other aspects of the culture has taken place over just the lastcentury of the 13 baktun cycle, signaling the rebirth of Mayan civilization on a planetary scale.Especially important to the work of Arguelles, was the precise timing of the discovery of the tomb of Pacal in 1952 (coincidentally the same year Yuri Knorosov took the first steps forward in deciphering theMayan hieroglyphic language), and later the discovery of the tomb of the Red Queen in the adjacentpyramid in 1994.In 2010 I wrote an article in anticipation of the full lunar eclipse that occurred on the southern(December) solstice of that year. Similar to how the Dreamspell synchronizes the Dresden eclipse tableto the year 2012 (13 Muluc = November 13), the traditional long count was precisely synchronized to theDresden eclipse table in 2010.see article at http://www.scribd.com/doc/45237172/F...010Unbeknownst to myself at the time, in 2010 archaeologists made a very important discovery in theMayan ruins of Xultun in Guatemala. On the walls of a fairly unassuming building they found paintedmurals, including calendrical operations (such as "ring numbers") and astronomical calculations (adefinite lunar table, and probable Venus intervals). This marks the first proof that these prominentfeatures of the Dresden Codex were utilized by the Classic Maya, more than 500 years before theDresden was created.Following the initial discovery in 2010, the murals were excavated and studied throughout 2011, and onMay 11, 2012, just nine days before the eclipse, the initial findings were published in the journal Science.On May 15 Barbara MacLeod sent a message (Xultun Number A and the 819-Day Count) to the Aztlanlist-serve with the following quotes:For listeros not familiar with this cycle, 819 is the product of 7, 13, and 9. <...> a few daysago Michael Grofe said that he suspects <the 819-day cycle> to be an “idealized systemfor tracking the sidereal position of eclipses”.Number A—1,195,740—is evenly divisible by 819. This property of the interval is notmentioned in the <May 11 Science> article. Upon closer examination and further discussion with <Hutch Kinsman>, I have concluded that this property is the uniquerationale for Xultun Number A. It is 63 x 18,980 and 4 x 819 x 365. <...> The number [63 x18,980] is also the smallest unit which commensurates the 819-Day Count with theCalendar Round.























    If Grofe is correct this means that the number 63 is central to the Mayan understanding of eclipse cyclesin relation to the fixed stars (63 x 13 = 819), and MacLeod's analysis of Xultun Number A demonstrates adirect relation of the number 63 to the Calendar Round of 52-years. It is well known, from records of thefamous New Fire ceremony, that Mesoamerican astronomers linked the Calendar Round to the fixedstars via the Pleiades constellation. According to John Major Jenkins it is precisely this connection thatallowed the builders of Chicchen Itza to forecast the sidereal location of the May 20 eclipse directlyconjunct the Pleiades. As if that wasn't enough, in the 1970s Floyd Loundsbury (using the GMT +2 astronomical correlation)conducted a study of discrepancies in the inscriptions of Palenque that led him to identify an importantoccurrence of this same 63 Calendar Round interval, precisely synchronized to the tropical date May 20.(July 24, 2587 BC (1.6.14.11.2.) plus 1,195,740 days is May 20, 688 AD (9.12.16.2.2)).In 2010, less than one year before he passed away, Jose Arguelles published a book (Book of theTranscendence) that demonstrated an important correspondence between the numbers 63 and 252(based on the same "magic square" relation of 64 to 260 presented in his earlier work). If the number 63is used to predict the sidereal location of eclipses, and intrinsically related to the number 252, we canthen see the Galactic Mayan intelligence behind the Dreamspell kin number of the May 20 Pleiadianeclipse, which, as mentioned, was 252.Considering the insinuation of Xultun into the timing of all this, with its "Number A" of 63 calendar rounds,we can appreciate some of the incredible time-engineering capabilities of the Galactic Maya. ButXultun's message for 2012 doesn't end just there. On May 23 Carlos Barrera Atuesta circulated adocument demonstrating how Xultun Number B correlates the cycle of 63 Calendar Rounds to the"super number" of the Dresden Venus Table. Xultun Number C addresses popular misconceptionsabout the significance of 2012, by taking us thousands of years beyond the closing of the current 13-baktun cycle.Indeed, the Galactic Maya have left as their legacy to the present age a great gift. With the toolsprovided, we have this opportunity to step beyond the artifice of history, into a future of harmonicsynchronization with the natural cycles of time. Seven baktuns from now, when the infatuation withdoomsday has long since passed, may it be said that the kin of the closing of the cycle made the mostof this most auspicious occasion. Aaron Woolrich, kin 081NS 1.24.11.23, kin 25612.19.19.7.9 1 Muluc= 12.19.17.17.9 + 1.8.0For more context:http://www.scribd.com/doc/61001771/R...stice-2010(The original version of this article, written the morning of the Pleiadian eclipse, was eaten by mycomputer, or possibly Tzitzimime, just before completion. By the afternoon fortune changed, and,despite a cloudy forecast, I was able to witness the eclipse in its entirety from just east of Mt. Shasta,blessed during totality with the brief apparition of a sundog.)







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    One thing that always confuses me about number manipulation is what is the true significance. From what I just gathered in reading through the post the apparent significance is: The ability to predict eclipses? Or the ability to psychically predict eclipses? Or the ability to psychically create eclipses? Or the desire of ancient cultures to live within the proscriptions of the cosmic declarations? Or an appreciation of the power endowed by recognizing the proscriptions of the cosmos and utilizing them? I'm not being facetious...One has to start from at least a notion to move forward.

    thanks!

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    As we remember the actual truth of our old dreams done ( lives (dna) and soul lifetimes ), knightmires in reality dreamed by others, and know the power and strength of our own dreaming, collectively and micro in now and lately time, We are the doctors, the Healers cutting away the false narrative, pouring into the wound a salve of harmonics unbearable to the knightmires creators. May we doctor and dream for all to know peace within, that true scars are of the mind, that DNA can evolve, improve, even in a generational way to clear ancestors, that we can all eat of gods heart.
    That's quite true on a number of levels. Epigenetics has shown us that.
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    Witch weavers win was watched, was witnessed, was woven, was willed, Weres wilted while we weaved, won.

    Now dreams created, will true, is harmonics in our times.

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    Dear Aianawa,

    I will start by saying that on some occasions I find my understanding of your thoughts difficult to manifest fully, meaning I don’t always understand what you aimed to express. This observation is important, in my opinion, because expression and understanding through words, through the language of choice or the language of your country, is imperative for both yourself and your partner, being that a partner in real life or the partner being all of us who read your posts and participate in some way in the conversation. I always presume anybody to start an expression for the purpose of creating the place and ground for a dialog, which is why I almost never can bring myself into starting a thread, because I discovered I can write long and,perhaps, engaging, but many suffer trying to measure to my expressiveness and feeling as if they fail. I have been in the position to want to contribute more to others’es lives without having knowledge of how they base themselves, so I understand that position well.

    All of the above being said prepares my own space to say that dreaming and dreams are as much, if not more, important to our lives than the wakeful consciousness; they are more important than the air, the water and the food that we usually need to sustain our physical bodies. Dreams, from this my perspective, are songs, expression of harmonics, as you have described them, and dependent on the hierarchy of one’s needs, from the most close needs, to the most abstract or socially-motivated ones.

    If you ever have the opportunity to visit the original Project Avalon forum you can read all threads created by Bill Ryan, and subsequently you can find all his replies in the threads started by other members. That is the only way in which you can understand fully the importance of expression in order to understand the importance of the dreaming time in anybody’s life. Bill Ryan, regardless of the absurdity of some topics he had chosen at the time, has the ability to lead your understanding through his expression growing from the understanding he has had on the subject at hand. In other words, his understanding, as much or less perfected as it may have been, led almost everyone who was cincere in their approach, allowing to the observer, us, to be “entertained”, if you wanted to use this word, and he still reserved the personal space for everyone to feel safe. At least that was back when I read some of his posts. Which has one final thought springing from this fact, in my view, and that is that he had, perhaps, heard his message as a song, perhaps created by his own soul and his higher “observers”, and he sung his message, mostly unaware of the full implication of his approach. That can make an unprepared soul fall in love with him, in some way (nothing personal intended what-so-ever here, Aragorn!, not creating a comparison or leadin others in the honey-trap.). Aragorn himself has had the same, or a similar way of leading the way, as I remember reading some of his posts on that other forum.

    Throughout my life I have observed I used to speak a little, for whatever reason, but I was very sensitive to everyone and very curious when I found something unclear to me in their direction. I also happened to be a vivid dreamer, me and all who were associated with me at those times. I could, if I may, use somebody else’s mind body to make myself dream a dream about them in order to clear “obfuscations” ...

    From all this slightly “voluminous” text above, which I hope reads faster that its looks suppose, I wished to express my slight fear about anybody trying to engineer anybody else’s dream, for purposes many, because the danger for the one engineering are far greater than for the one who’s dreamins would be engineered.

    Imagine you have a garden space (I was busy today gardening and read a bit about the Chinese approach to the garden), where you have to plant a number of plants, bushes, flowers, trees, to create a little water source, to be respectful of the winds of all direction, and finally, to have the time always to care for the garden. Even if you can finalize your thoughts on all of the above, one question would remain, and that would be, perhaps, why, why am I doing it. I could do it to find natural forces-at-work; I could try to have some place to put a chair and a table and to read or drink coffee; I could try to create a space for my rabbit and my other animals to live as if in paradise; in my case I love flowers and I want to be surrounded by all the colors and all the scents, to have bees flying and busily working, to have the birds chirping in the crowns of those trees, and to wait for the tide to arrive for me.

    With all my respects to the Maya people who most definitely are great people, but not necessarily belonging to our pathetic reality right now, I would be slightly apprehensive at them trying to fix my broken dream-state. When the person who once inspired you, me, in this specific case, became slightly or more abusive if not violent to your, to my life, nobody else can mediate the situation.

    I benefit a lot in the development of my English language from listening and watching Christiane Amanpour on CNN, together with all the other journalists and correspondents. I feel we all live to a great degree in a world created by the English language, so to repair one’s dreams I can accept only one way, and that is of understanding and of further developing it together with the profession in my life.
    But, of course, from the perspective of the universe, the Maya people could be our higher-selves either when necessary or by birth, so all help is and has always been greatly appreciated.

    Regards, chocolate
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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Witch weavers win was watched, was witnessed, was woven, was willed, Weres wilted while we weaved, won.

    Now dreams created, will true, is harmonics in our times.
    All of the above, huh. Ok, that's what I thought...
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    Quote Originally posted by chocolate View Post
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    I will start by saying that on some occasions I find my understanding of your thoughts difficult to manifest fully, meaning I don’t always understand what you aimed to express. [...]
    It's Aianawese. The truth is that Vern appears to dislike typing. He is a lot easier to understand if you actually hear him speak.

    Here you can find the Voices of the Forums playlist. There are several videos there where Vern was part of the discussion.

    Quote Originally posted by chocolate View Post
    If you ever have the opportunity to visit the original Project Avalon forum [...]
    Um, Vern has still recently signed up as a member at La Casa Del Sombrero™ — against our warnings — and he was then kicked out again after only a few weeks, and by that very same Bill Ryan.

    So I think he knows.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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