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    NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM OCT 20 2016

    Streamed Live 1 hour ago ...

    "As the US political season pushes the Lunacy Index into record-breaking highs, Angela Merkel begins to show faint signs of emergent sanity, and Russia and Japan might have come to some sort of memorandum of understanding concerning those disputed islands, and have decided to formally end World War Two": Referenced articles

    Merkel calls for ‘national push’ to deport rejected migrants from Germany


    Fumio Kishida is going to visit Moscow


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    Here is an interesting clip of things said by Trump. Well worth the 5 plus minutes, IMO. I found it encouraging as far as message goes. The messenger is another consideration, maybe.

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    It would appear that Hillary is losing, in a big way. Only fake polls are making it appear differently.

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    http://www.democracynow.org/2016/10/...t_against_caci

    "A U.S. federal court has ruled that no one—not even the president of the United States—has the power to declare torture legal. Friday’s unanimous ruling by a panel of judges on the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals reinstates a lawsuit against the military contractor CACI. The suit charges CACI directed and participated in torture at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq in 2004, where it was hired by the U.S. to provide interrogation services. Four Iraqi men say they were subjected to extreme temperatures, electric shocks, broken bones, death threats and sexual abuse."
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    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTs2Hg9oLS4


    Russian news is reporting that Eric Braverman actually has seek sought asylum at the Russian consulate office former CEO to Clinton foundation
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    Quote Originally posted by 161803398 View Post

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTs2Hg9oLS4


    Russian news is reporting that Eric Braverman actually has seek sought asylum at the Russian consulate office former CEO to Clinton foundation

    Thankyou, very interesting, feel the election may get very very interesting, more than expected.

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    Isn't it already very interesting? I'm finding this whole thing to be quite stimulating.

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    We find out why the Clinton investigation was re-opened.

    Is This Why Comey Broke: A Stack Of Resignation Letters From Furious FBI Agents

    James Comey's decision to revive the investigation of Hillary Clinton's email server and her handling of classified material came after he could no longer resist mounting pressure by mutinous agents in the FBI, including some of his top deputies, according to a source close to the embattled FBI director.

    'The atmosphere at the FBI has been toxic ever since Jim announced last July that he wouldn't recommend an indictment against Hillary,' said the source, a close friend who has known Comey for nearly two decades, shares family outings with him, and accompanies him to Catholic mass every week.

    'Some people, including department heads, stopped talking to Jim, and even ignored his greetings when they passed him in the hall,' said the source. 'They felt that he betrayed them and brought disgrace on the bureau by letting Hillary off with a slap on the wrist.'

    According to the source, Comey fretted over the problem for months and discussed it at great length with his wife, Patrice.

    He told his wife that he was depressed by the stack of resignation letters piling up on his desk from disaffected agents. The letters reminded him every day that morale in the FBI had hit rock bottom.

    'The people he trusts the most have been the angriest at him,' the source continued. 'And that includes his wife, Pat. She kept urging him to admit that he had been wrong when he refused to press charges against the former secretary of state.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...ous-fbi-agents
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    Tis over I feel, for Hillery, waiting for a Farrell nefarium report about all this.

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    So, Apple stands out as one more shill for the status quo criminality. I have a feeling Apple is going to have a very bad next quarter.

    Apple Offers Anti-Trump App Allowing Voters To Trade Votes

    At a time rife with speculation that the presidential vote on Tuesday may be rigged or tampered, we find it troubling - not to mention illegal - that Tim Cook has allowed the Apple store to distribute an app called #NeverTrump created by Trimian, whose mission statement is "Red or Blue, we must all unite to defeat Trump this election. Let's ensure Hillary wins in swing states, and make sure third-party votes count."

    The app allows potential voters to trade votes, boosting Hillary's support in swing or battleground states, while 3rd party candidates get more (meaningless) support in blue states.
    It is obvious that panic about a non-player has created the kind of cerebral cortex shutdown that comes with adrenaline release (fear). Living in a corporate bubble has insulated them from the real world and the consequences of angering it.

    This app is offered for free to use "for any Democrat, Republican, Independent, Libertarian, Green Party or anyone against Donald Trump for this 2016 US Presidential Election. Whether you are for Hillary Clinton, Gary Johnson or Jill Stein, let's agree on one thing: Never Trump."
    Clif High's web-bots have reported a 25:1 favor ability for Trump in the language of the population that writes anything on the web.

    Here is the first comment below the article.
    My daughter asked for an apple IPhone for xmas. Not now. Thanks apple, for showing what a bunch of ****ing assholes you are!
    This election is getting very interesting.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...ss-state-lines
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    Jimmy Kimmel sends one of his people out on to the streets with a BS message that Obama announced he will be running for a third term. Shameful deceit is on display as some people claim to have watched something that did not happen. Major props to the last gentle man who made no pretense of having heard about it, in spite of reacting excitedly about what he thought was true. I made the world gentleman into two separate words that will be obvious if one watched this short video.

    It is my guess no Trump supporters were hurt in the process of making this video.

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    Steve Pieczenik has put out another video. I find this one particularly sober and honest and great synchronicity with the above video. The quality of of governance is a reflection of the people. As seen in the above video, some people are dishonest, if not delusional. Reality occurs between the poles of opposites. Like a football field with goal posts, the action happens largley towards the center of the field with a constant flux of movement towards each of the goal posts, or polarities.

    I could go on but, my disdain for typing has kicked in. Also, there is an energy that is shaking things loose and conversations will perform better "in the field" and not in stark contrasts of polarity. Steve P is a concerned American with his own idea of what a functional America looks like. Like a relatively healthy diet, it is not just health food but will include some junk. It is a matter of balance towards health and not towards illness. This balance has a flux to it. So, do not let the mention of certain names Steve mentions be triggers that blind the perception of his message. I hear words of a relatively healthy diet for the USA. A healthy USA can then attend to the serious business of the vigilance required for a Republic.

    The Jimmy Kimmel video in the above post shows how far vigilance of both goobermint and personal responsibility, and the integrity of both, has fallen.

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    The worst suspicions seem to be confirmed....

    https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/co.../?compact=true

    Thanks to noprophet at PA for bringing this to the boards, as not many stray over to Reddit. Apparently there are a great number of emails in the wikileaks using code to reference the activities of a pedophile ring in the midst of the Democratic campaign to the very center of its leadership. Not for the faint of heart.
    Sometimes God shines his magic light beam from outer space, and it works in mysterious ways.

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    8 years ago many of my friends were very excited by Obama. They were sure his presidency was a real change
    This year many of the same people are divided over the political race. They are all sure the "other" candidate is the lessor evil.
    Always the electoral college votes are the only real votes.
    I have not seen anyone get excited by changing this institution?

    This was an interesting article.
    I know that the feeling of being a mushroom goes deeper than any one or two or several storylines.

    Hillary Clinton’s Ace-in-the-Hole: Russia
    11/05/2016 05:08 pm ET

    If Hillary Clinton loses a very tight election her ace-in-the-hole could be Russia.

    Corporate media reacted harshly when Donald Trump said in the last debate that he would wait and see what happens before accepting the election results. “I will keep you in suspense,” he said. Trump has alleged that the vote will be rigged.

    If Trump loses by a razor thin margin we can expect a demand for recounts and possible legal challenges. Some of his more violent supporters have also threatened trouble.

    But what if Clinton loses a close election? In the wake of Wikileaks and FBI revelations Clinton’s sizable lead has evaporated and a tight result is looking more and more possible.

    On her campaign plane a few hours after the last debate Clinton was asked if she would pledge to accept the results. She ignored the question and instead launched into an attack on what Trump had said.

    If Clinton should lose a squeaker, she has two options to try to overturn the election and make herself president—and both involve blaming Russia. She can try to influence America’s bizarre electoral college system, or get at least two allies in Congress to challenge its certification of the election.

    America’s Indirect Suffrage

    Unknown to most people outside the United States, and to many within, the U.S. president is not chosen by a national popular vote. Instead the U.S. presidential election is really 50 separate state elections. The candidate that wins a state’s popular vote is awarded a number of electors based on population size.

    These are actual persons who vote for president on behalf of the people. Slates of electors are chosen by both major political parties before the election. Whichever party wins a state’s popular vote gets the votes of that state’s electors. There are 538 electors and a candidate can must get 270 electoral votes to be elected president. *

    This system ignores the national poplar vote so that a candidate may win more votes nationwide but still lose the election. It has happened four times, the last being in 2000 when Al Gore won the popular vote but lost the election to George W. Bush.

    Several states, such as New York and California, usually vote Democratic, while others, such as many in the West and South, are normally in the Republican column. But there are states that could go either way, so-called swing states, and that’s where the most intense campaigning takes place.

    According to one scenario, the four electoral votes in Maine could decide this election.

    That’s why Trump campaigned there last week. Maine and Nebraska are the only two states that proportion some of their electors. One candidate could get one of the four electoral votes if he or she wins a congressional district.

    Influencing the College by Blaming Russia

    The Clinton camp’s accusation after the first Wikileaks revelations, just before the Democratic Convention, that Russian intelligence was behind the leak was later amplified in early October by James Clapper, director of national intelligence, who blamed “Russia’s senior-most officials” for intending to “interfere with the U.S. election process” by authorizing the hack of the Democratic National Committee.

    Clapper went significantly further, however, claiming that a Russian company was behind attempted hacks of electoral computer systems in various states.

    The Obama administration’s claim was widely accepted by the news media even though no evidence of Russian tampering was publicly given. With just days to go to the election the story has been revived by the pro-Clinton media. CNN Anchor Jake Tapper on Friday incorrectly said the U.S. was accusing the Russian government, not a company, of threatening election computers.

    In the last debate, Clinton said the hack “has come from the highest levels of the Russian government. Clearly from Putin himself in an effort, as 17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed, to influence our election.” The 17 agencies were represented by Clapper. Clinton also offered no evidence.

    If Clinton loses by a few electoral votes she could challenge the results by claiming that Russia tampered with the election. The public has been prepared with unproven allegations that are widely disseminated by corporate media and widely believed. With the media not previously demanding evidence of such a claim and if the intelligence agencies back her up, her only challenge might be to convince the needed number of Republican electors to change their votes to put her over the top.

    There are only 26 states that require electors by law to vote for the candidate who won the state’s popular vote. Virginia has issued only an advisory to do so. The other 24 states have no such laws, freeing electors to vote their conscience and against their own party.

    The swing state with the most electoral votes that doesn’t bind its electors by law is Pennsylvania, with 20 electoral votes. Other states in play such as Arizona, Utah, Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada and New Hampshire also have no laws to keep an elector from changing his or her vote. Ohio and Florida, the two biggest swing states, do bind the electors by law.

    Clinton’s camp would be faced with turning a number of electors around to vote against the Republican candidate and switch their vote to her. Clinton has to convince them that a changed vote would uphold American democracy against the interference of a supposedly hostile state that threw the election for Trump.

    Clinton has to convince such so-called “Faithless Electors” to vote against their state’s popular will. This has happened in seven previous elections. In each of them only one elector changed his or her vote. This occurred in 1948, 1956, 1960, 1968, 1972, 1976, and 1988. But no Faithless Elector has ever decided a presidential election before.

    The 2016 Election, one of the strangest in memory, could add to the craziness by becoming the first.

    The Second Option

    If she fails to convince enough electors to change their votes there is one last chance for Clinton. At 1 p.m. on January 6, both houses of Congress meet to certify the election. However, an 1887 law allows any member of Congress to formally object to the result.

    An objection must be put in writing and signed by at least one Senator and one Representative. The Joint Session is recessed and both Houses have two hours to separately consider the objection. Then each House votes on it. If both agree, the electoral votes are not counted.

    There have only been two objections and both times, in 1969 and 2005, they were rejected.

    If Clinton succeeds and the objections are accepted, vacating Trump’s electoral votes because of alleged Russian interference in certain states, it could bring him below the required 270 electoral votes. But it would not give Clinton that number either.

    If neither candidate reaches 270 electoral votes the Constitution says the election is decided by a vote in the House of Representatives. Each state delegation gets one vote and a simple majority is required. The House is currently controlled by the Republicans. But many Republicans do not support Trump.

    The House has decided a presidential election only two times before. In 1800 Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr tied with 73 electoral votes each. After 36 ballots over six days, the House chose Jefferson as the third president. In the 1824 election Andrew Jackson received 99 electoral votes, 32 short of a majority, to John Quincy Adam’s 85, but the House chose Adams.

    It would certainly be a long shot for Clinton to try either of these tactics to overturn a close loss to Trump. But given everything else that has happened in this election campaign, would anyone really be surprised?

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    *The system was a compromise between Congress and voters (until ?? only propertied white men) selecting the president. It also gave less populated Southern slave states a greater say in a presidential election. It was established in 1789, at a time when the Holy Roman Emperor was chosen by an electoral college. From 1849 to 1918 Prussian voters chose electors to decide on deputies for the House of Representatives in a system of indirect suffrage. The French and Irish Senates are today chosen by an electoral college. The Pope is still elected by a College of Cardinals.

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    Quote Originally posted by PurpleLama View Post
    The worst suspicions seem to be confirmed....

    https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/co.../?compact=true

    Thanks to noprophet at PA for bringing this to the boards, as not many stray over to Reddit. Apparently there are a great number of emails in the wikileaks using code to reference the activities of a pedophile ring in the midst of the Democratic campaign to the very center of its leadership. Not for the faint of heart.
    Hmmmm, "pizza parties" and "spirit cooking". Both new to me... If these and other sordid connections to the Clintons are indeed the case then I have to wonder why now, and why are only the dems targeted?


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EsJLNGVJ7E


    Anyway aside from all the political stuff, I've found it curious, for some time now, the origins of Alternative Media's holy grail "The Disclosure Movement" back in the early 90's: We had a Rockefeller, a Podesta, the Clintons, and many other well knowns from back in the day. I see this is also gaining public traction after 20+ years. Below is one of my old dusty research links, but there seems to suddenly be a bunch of them from 2016. Again, I have to wonder why now? What's really going on here?
    http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org..._Documents.htm

    I have some evolving suspicions, but will keep my woo to myself for the time being.
    The unexamined life is not worth living.

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