Could the 'Greys' Be a Race of Humans Who Evolved Underground?

[The One]

Many ideas have been put forward about the origins of the mysterious ‘grey aliens’ who allegedly abduct people from across the globe. However, one of the more overlooked theories suggests that the greys could be less extraterrestrial, and more subterrestial



In this article, we explore the possibility that the greys are not aliens at all, but an ancient race of humans or hominids who migrated into the depths of the Earth many thousands of years ago, and have since adapted to their environment.

Charles Darwin famously came up with the concept of natural selection in his ‘Origin of Species’ paper published in 1859. Since then, numerous real-world examples have bolstered this idea, and most scientists now accept the theory as truth. For example, in the early 19th century, the peppered moth was usually seen with white wings and small black specks. However, when industry and smog took over northern English cities such as Manchester, a new variety of the moth was found with black wings. In this changed environment, the black winged moth blended in better with its surroundings and was less likely to be spotted by predators. By the end of the 19th century, the black variation of the peppered moth had become the predominant type in Manchester, and made up 95% of all sightings.


The peppered moth.


Similar changes are believed to have occurred with human evolution over time. For example, it is thought that as humans migrated north from Africa into Europe, they developed lighter skin to help avoid vitamin D deficiency in a climate with less sunlight. More recently, the bones of a newly discovered species of humans were discovered on the Indonesian island of Flores. This lost branch of humanity, nicknamed ‘the hobbit’, had evolved to become unusually small due to a process known as ‘insular dwarfism’ which occurs in environments where resources and land areas are limited.

So, if for a moment, we accept the possibility that a branch of ancient humanity may have found its way from caves, to underground tunnels, and then perhaps to even lower recesses of the Earth, how would this have affected the evolution of such a people?



Pale Skin
It is likely that the underground dwellers (or subterrestrials) would have developed pale skin due to the lack of sunlight beneath the Earth. Darkness in skin tone is caused by a pigment called melanin, which helps to protect the skin from UV radiation. Since the amount of UV radiation would be limited in the subterrestrial environment, there would also be no need for high levels of melanin in the skin.

Large Eyes
Another side effect of having no sunlight in the environment would be the need for the subterrestrials to adapt to almost near darkness. It is possible that a small amount of light would be generated by bioluminescent creatures and lava flows, however this light would be so limited that the eyes would have to grow very large and perhaps even adapt to see infrared radiation emanating from the rocks heated by the Earth’s core. The pupils would probably need to take up the full ocular area to allow as much light as possible to enter the optic nerves, resulting in large black eyes.

Small Body Size
In the same way that the hobbits of Flores became small due to the effects of ‘insular dwarfism’, this same effect would very likely occur during the evolution of the subterrestrials, due to the cramped and limited conditions that would exist beneath the Earth. In addition, the incredible heat that would be experienced under the surface would probably lead to a smaller body size, as a reduced mass requires less energy for cooling. A smaller body would also be beneficial due to the lack of food resources underground.

No Body Hair
The intense temperatures experienced beneath the Earth would mean that body hair would most likely become redundant. Above the surface, body hair is beneficial to help keep us warm, but there would be no need for this beneath the ground.



All of these features sound familiar when considering the description of the greys given by abductees. However, is it even possible for a species to exist solely underground? Research suggests that water is the key ingredient for life, and wherever water exists above or below the surface of Earth, life does too. Recent findings suggest that some bacteria may live up to twelve miles beneath the surface, and possibly even deeper.

Perhaps, there are caverns and recesses inside the planet that go much further down than any modern human has ever travelled, and it is conceivable that these recesses could be an oasis for subterrestrial life, including the infamous greys. In fact, these beings may have adapted to their environment so well, that they were able to spend their time developing their minds and their technology instead of worrying about how to ward off predators and warring tribes. This might explain how their technology seems to be so far in advance of our own.

Further Evidence
So, is there any further evidence to support this theory? Surprisingly, there might be. UFOs are often seen, and tracked by radar, moving rapidly across our skies. However, they are rarely, if ever, tracked travelling into space. Conversely, there have been numerous sightings of UFOs plunging into water, and even more amazingly, descending into volcanoes. Thermal cameras mounted near Mount Etna in Italy recently showed an unexplained object seemingly descending into the volcano from the air, and there have been several similar examples. It has been suggested that the volcanoes act as passageways to the underground realms in which these beings dwell.



In addition, a few abductees and other witnesses have claimed that the greys have massive underground bases situated all over the planet – one of the most infamous being in Dulce, New Mexico. However, there has never been any proof of these claims.

It should be highlighted that all of the above can only be considered as speculation since no known direct evidence of the subterrestrials’ existence has ever been found. However, it is a fact that many people across the world have reported seeing, and being abducted by these ominous grey beings, and perhaps rather than looking up to the heavens for answers, we should be looking beneath our feet.


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[lcam88]

That is an interesting thesis.

But it doesn't consider that perhaps there is quite a bit of physical exertion that goes into moving rock to open underground passages. That requirement would yield more muscular features that would be more suited to those types of tasks. At least as far as Darwinism may be concerned.

I bring that up because the notion that they live in darkness is used as a supporting idea. Either they are advanced enough not to require physical exertions and thus have obtained means to light their environment negating the need for huge eyes and pupils, or they are stone age "dwarves".

As far as being an alternative to popular ET theories goes, this is disinformation. In my view, especially because of the latent cognitive dissonance I've pointed out being present.

I think it much more plausible that most ETs are intra-terrestrials –*humans from a different period of time that learned to travel in space. Who have since returned "home" to find they are unwelcome.

That idea certainly gives new understanding about what "mutually assured destruction" was really about.

It gives insight into why 3 thermonuclear air detonations over Antarctica was done in the name of "tests". It gives insight into who had helped the nazis in their incredible technological growth possibly in exchange for Antarctica.

And lastly, about why the architected conflict between Russia and the West can never end: because as far as the games theory analysis can show, there is no face saving option that is available acknowledging the full implications.

If this idea becomes more widespread, the War on Terror machine will easily shift its gaze to a part of the population who sympathize with their returning ancient brethren, all in the name of national security and likely "mental health" of the general population.

It is not in human nature to continue accepting a lie when the nature of the lie becomes apparent unless such individuals are the perpetrators and beneficiaries of sed lies. On this one, we all have been lied to, about everything. So it is better to maintain the lie at all costs. That is just my view.

[jonsnow]

The Greys are a advanced alien race and have been here about 6,000 years ( visiting )

Biological is a really big deal among alien races with the greys unable to live here . There goal has been to create a hybrid race half-grey half human which is able to live here . They have tried this on a number of occasions but there experiments die . In truth they are one of the foes of humanity with there agenda planet earth . source kemet.

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[Fred Steeves]

My rather unorthodox impression is that Grey's don't even exist, except through an ongoing, and *well* propagated meme. I also tend to suspect that the purveyors of this ongoing meme used Crowley's "Lam", as the prototype.

This doesn't mean I don't believe ET exists, but not in the way say MUFON, and other well infiltrated UFO groups portray it. Purposely spun bullspit runs thicker and deeper in the UFO community than any other, unfortunately...

[jonsnow]

I hope you are correct from what Kemetic say there agenda is not friendly aka planet earth only thing stopping them is biological which is why they take people some for harvest , testing , sampling , they have been here a while couple thousand years . Kemetic go back 60,000 years .

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life-of-a-kemThe one who is looking for knowledge is like an arrow shot towards the sun. If that arrow ever touches the sun, it will not come back; but if it touches the sun and comes back to Earth, it will no longer be an arrow. There always comes a moment in the life of those looking for light when everything that has been part of a solid foundation and the base of notions, facts, logics, beliefs, etc. simply disappears at their feet, giving each the impression of being left suspended in emptiness despite the presence of notable phenomena that include him or her in their becoming. In M’TAM education, we say that on that level, the student or pilgrim has reached the first gate of gates. He is ready to access the superior plan and awaits a teacher to stretch forth a hand. Pilgrims will learn to look beyond what they see; they will analyse and criticise their methods of investigation of the phenomena they observe. They will evolve towards a serene approach towards the world. The doors of the Kem will open to them; they will become Kem and will each live in the obsession of playing a perfect role for the becoming of existence. They will accept the Seventy-seven commandments; they will learn the ablution; they will honour all the Gods; they will make offerings to their ancestors; and so on. – excerpt from the Introduction to The Philosophy Podium Revised Edition Neb Naba Lamoussa Morodenibig.

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[lookbeyond]

Im wondering if some of these beings are interdimensional and if as such, may still be classified as "Extraterrestrial"

for example Lam

[Jengelen]

I believe as the light beings they are that they can take any avatar they wish. They do deceive and lie, and pretend to be someone they are not in many instances. They can even manipulate some devices to make it appear as a face of someone but its usually a fraud. Someone simply near by that caught your emotional energy and played on that some to tweak it to their taste if you will.

The higher source guides all here as we are all here bound by various soul contracts for our own learning and growing. We are all light at our quantum core and some are simply more advanced than others and take simple advantage of the fact just because they can. Like all before you we all eat. We all eat light actually, and in the end its all converted to that type flash of energy anyway and our tech can now show this. We have come a long ways. You can't go a day without recharging your battery, neither can they and this life spiral just moves on up you know? The idea we are the top of the food chain is obsolete really as we feed others with our energies, which are real voltages that fire off real neuronal discharges going off through our heart and body systems producing an energy! A very real energy that is collected by those that use it for whatever purposes they see fit.

Like the bees that gather the nectar to make the honey that is then shared by other beings we too produce something and its harvested. Its not just us, its all the bio life and any plant animal or hominid seen or unseen they all produce emotional energies. We know the greatest producer as fight or flight in nature. In the end though nothing dies as we are all one, all is one and all is connected as all points in space and time connect. We know this now also by our science. How can we ignore that like the avatars before us playing games simply to feed themselves emotional energy are here? Don't see them? How can we show you? Maybe a look at what we have before us.

A black president, not just a black president but a bi sexual black president, of Muslim favor or leaning, and his transgender partner Mike or Michelle whichever you prefer! We have a world that cannot make up its mind which bathroom to use, which president to vote for, which insurance to use, which religion to trust, which hand held device we will want, which computer, and three months later its obsolete, a government that fears us so badly they spy on everyone using those tech pieces while it opens the borders to illegal unknowns that bring in more chaos and animosity and crime! How much more can we show to allow you to see it can only be a higher intelligence manipulating man about in some cruel joke pattern of psychopathic thought processes!?

Its like something out of a pure horror show come to life slapping us in the face because its ourselves! We see it, its us and we hate it so what do we do? Like all things here in this level of existence things move slower. They manifest but at a slower rate. If you were stare in the mirror long enough you could see the power of your own thoughts and how it shapes your face and even from day to day. Beauty for example is a day to day thing.

You see a girl, stunning even and next day you see the same girl but yet, its not so stunning. Its not just dress or make up either! Some days we're just brighter! To find out you have so much control over that brightness is a wake up call to many but we are all shape shifters and even though we don't know it we all change from day to day in our look, even our height and weight and we have total and complete responsibility for what we appear as and how bright or dull we are from moment to moment by our thoughts, feelings and emotional state of certainty! Your belief so devout as to become knowing is the difference I think. You suddenly just realize that the math is real, that this is real and we are energy at the quantum level.

As energy that means we are energy and information and so we have control over the input and intention of how we wish that information to arrange itself! Do you want your fingers longer? Start focusing on it and ask and see if you can't literally change yourself! Plancks theorem states we flash or blank in and out of existence on a micro flashing really fast sequence but the fact is we are energy and information a lot of the time. So if we take control over that input, that old format is erased from the memory, the illness or injury is gone, the next instance a new reformatted program is run and the body re-materializes as physical matter only its bright, the water crystal is pure, beautiful, balanced and for no other reason that the fact that you consciously evoked it and were certain that it happens because we reprogram that energy and become renewed. I assure you its real. I assure you I did it. I should be dead. We're waking up. Our lights are growing and you can evoke more of that daily and even change your own presence.

Think of this. You are mostly water and just renewing that aspect of self chills your very being to every cell in your body. To bless and thank each thing you take in, air, fire, food, light, to thank it for every last thing it went through just to get here for you to gain from this, and believe me its blessed, transformed, pure clean, and you know it. Your body knows it. Flash in and out and remember you are all within, nothing is outside, its all in. We all connect to the same one being and nothing is outside so every last thing here is us, its molded shaped, created and manifested all by us and we can blank in and out reprogramming it back to beauty the way we unconsciously created this mess before us.

The clean up outside is actually a big clean up within each and everyone of us. Bless yourselves and transform, evoke the light and realize that hypnotized subjects can see right through a body to read a card behind their mom or brother or whatever subject is placed there to block their view and its because we are mostly empty space and energy at the core held together by apparently nothing other than great certainty and info which can be changed if you know how to hack the program. I'm still trying to get the hang of that part. :-) Energy and info. That is what it is all about. Watch the info you accept and suddenly the energy reassembles in better healthier ways.

[jonsnow]

great post jengelen I have to digest to fully understand some deep taught there 10/10

[Elen]

Plancks theorem states we flash or blank in and out of existence on a micro flashing really fast sequence but the fact is we are energy and information a lot of the time. So if we take control over that input, that old format is erased from the memory, the illness or injury is gone, the next instance a new reformatted program is run and the body re-materializes as physical matter only its bright, the water crystal is pure, beautiful, balanced and for no other reason that the fact that you consciously evoked it and were certain that it happens because we reprogram that energy and become renewed. I assure you its real. I assure you I did it. I should be dead. We're waking up. Our lights are growing and you can evoke more of that daily and even change your own presence.

Very interestingly put Jengelen, thanks for posting!

[Fred Steeves]

Im wondering if some of these beings are interdimensional and if as such, may still be classified as "Extraterrestrial"

for example Lam

Yes absolutely. I personally take critters like Lam to be interdimensional in nature, and I almost went there in my post, but was hesitant to muddy the waters even more than I already had on an ET thread.

ET/ID, may be tough to draw the line there.

[Greenbarry]

greys? human? compare?
i think the grey are a higher vibration being that is of semi-physical origin.
human beings are only catching up on this long road we chose to take.
its about vibration. that is where we fit in the cosmos.. going to the bottom
and now rising back up.
energy does not have a twin. only many different ways to form it by vibration.
so, they are a total different type of being on a different vibration.
to think we are sub-grey or they are sub-human is total ego.
the only way any of this is true is we are all energy at different vibrations.
then this also makes us the animals we see around us and the flora and fauna
and the micro-organisms and the atoms and everything.
so, in that yes.. we are & they are.
other than that.. its trickery and lies.
my thoughts on this.

[lcam88]

As energy that means we are energy and information and so we have control over the input and intention of how we wish that information to arrange itself! Do you want your fingers longer? Start focusing on it and ask and see if you can't literally change yourself!

This is true.

I've done this.

Plancks theorem states we flash or blank in and out of existence on a micro flashing really fast sequence but the fact is we are energy and information a lot of the time. So if we take control over that input, that old format is erased from the memory, the illness or injury is gone, the next instance a new reformatted program is run and the body re-materializes as physical matter only its bright, the water crystal is pure, beautiful, balanced and for no other reason that the fact that you consciously evoked it and were certain that it happens because we reprogram that energy and become renewed. I assure you its real. I assure you I did it. I should be dead. We're waking up. Our lights are growing and you can evoke more of that daily and even change your own presence.

I think the scientific inclination is misguided. There is no amount of rationalizing that will make a theory more or less reality.

Rationalization, indeed, is counter-intuitive, even counter-productive. It causes the rationalizer to the dwell on the past and to ponder the future of what might be. That action leaves the rationalizer missing the most important thing, the moment.

Either it is, or it isn't, but if it is to be, no part of you can be in doubt; that is the pitfall of theories in general, they are devoid of certainty by nature of how they are derived (in moments of doubt hence the need to experiment or test for truth).

That...

... IS the nature of the inertial barrier...

that keeps things as they are in a moment of stability. Or else the whole world would be constantly morphing into a realm of incoherence. Not that another level of incoherence is necessarily wrong, or less desirable or better or worse. It would be like living in a world of magic where things morph into the desire of the most powerful passing subject. Kind of like the way it is here... Except maybe we all wish to be...

And we are, we just don't quite believe it. We are distracted with things like science, religion or politics. We are made to believe we are weak from birth. And so we are.

It is a question of perspective.

[lookbeyond]

Yes absolutely. I personally take critters like Lam to be interdimensional in nature, and I almost went there in my post, but was hesitant to muddy the waters even more than I already had on an ET thread.

ET/ID, may be tough to draw the line there.

Hey Fred , please share someway, lb

[Fred Steeves]

Well lookbeyond it's pretty darn murky, but just as for one example the 60's counter culture movement was by and large induced by the CIA, and the massive amounts of LSD they splashed out there through various front groups and such, I think the same is done to and through through the UFO community at large. Give a meme enough life through visuals, and massive repetitive exposure, it becomes real and people actually begin to see and experience it. Psychology 101.

I don't pretend to think I have a handle on the overall destination, but much like the 60's example it's similar to an old fashioned cattle drive. And when you get to the tippy top of any big movement or organization you find intelligence agencies, and dark magick. Take it from there, or not so much.

[Aragorn]

Well lookbeyond it's pretty darn murky, but just as for one example the 60's counter culture movement was by and large induced by the CIA, and the massive amounts of LSD they splashed out there through various front groups and such, I think the same is done to and through through the UFO community at large. Give a meme enough life through visuals, and massive repetitive exposure, it becomes real and people actually begin to see and experience it. Psychology 101.

I believe you are correct. I have already written about that elsewhere on the forum, and that was my analysis too. They launch memes and themes, and as such, it becomes very hard to see the forest for the trees anymore.

And yes, the hippie scene and the music industry of the 1960s and 1970s was entirely controlled by way of the drug trafficking. They already did that once before, in the 1930s, when Afro-American musicians started playing jazz. They then infiltrated that scene as well and started spreading drugs around to mellow out the resistance against racism.

I don't pretend to think I have a handle on the overall destination, but much like the 60's example it's similar to an old fashioned cattle drive. And when you get to the tippy top of any big movement or organization you find intelligence agencies, and dark magick. Take it from there, or not so much.

Of course. The Jehova's Witnesses for instance are purely a creation of the Cabal. <nods>