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    sooooooo..... continuing,

    After the strange event with Corey and Atticus and Simon, I kept in touch with Corey which led up to a meeting I had with Corey in the flesh on Thursday afternoon, April 17, 2015.

    The highlight of that meeting which is relevant to donk's question is that during the meeting I mentioned the names of folks I had met and befriended in the community in hopes he knew some of them too... such that perhaps this might further validate me with Corey who I saw (at that point) as (hopefully) the real deal and honestly... I felt he could use a friend and because I lived near him, perhaps I could be and one with close proximity if the need arose.

    It was at this time I had seen the thread on this forum called The Plan. I discovered this thread at most a week or so before I met with Corey Goode (April 17, 2015).

    So when i threw out a few names to Corey I happened to throw out Shane. This is how it went to the best of my memory.

    Sam: Do you know Shane?

    Corey: Shane??

    Sam: yes... Shane, Shaynard...

    Corey: Shane from Canada?

    Sam: Yes, Shane from Toronto, Canada.

    Corey leaned back and his demeanor changed and then he blurted out:

    "Shane's the Ruiner!!!!"

    Of course this was already well after the Avians blog post that officialized the war between Corey Goode and The Ruiner but I had never connected Shane to the Ruiner and it was only at this moment that I even considered if it might be true.

    The next evening I asked Shane if the rumor was true and he told me yes, he was the author of the Ruiner blog.

    So my point is that long, long before the blog existed and far longer before the day I actually knew Shane was the author of the Ruiner blog, I had found myself deeply entangled in a powerful, emotional way with Shane.

    At this point, there was almost no possibility that I could read the blog in an unbiased and unemotional way where the mind might say, "huh" much less where I might hear the gut scream - "noooo way!"

    It was not until I began my own investigation for material I needed to write up a chapter in a book I had suggested to the Shaneolytes that we all produce as part of our desire to see The Ruiner continue as Shane had warned us that the blog was soon coming to an end when I discovered some things that seemed... how do I put it - where I realized he said one thing way back in the early days where in the later days, he seemed to contradict. I then recalled the time the number one Shaneolyte became upset with me about my cosmological explanation I held at that time as to why "God made all this." Strangely, Shane happened to make the same claim with me and how this came about was when I had heard a bootleg of a Wilcrook presentation where Wilcrook stated precisely the same reason I had derived and which Shane told me, "David got that from me (Shane)."

    So when this number one Shaneolyte had issue with my derived cosmology I was able to tell her that Shane had the same view! Yet as I have come to learn when things like this occur where Shane is involved... the story gets changed, twisted, reworded suggesting I didn't understand, etc. etc. But I know exactly what Shane told me and I know why (because he was trying to claim credit for what Wilcrook was taking credit for "knowing") but that when push came to shove, this is when the number one Shaneolyte caused Shane to change his story. Shane had no clue how significant that one event was for me to experience... and so when I started to see the changes in the story and I started to see how he was manipulated by the number one Shaneolyte, that is when I saw the metaphor of "handler" applicable. I never meant it to imply that the number one Shaneolyte was an witting Illuminati or CIA MK Ultra specialist as later I was accused of saying. I did refer to this number one Shaneolyte as "his handler" but the above story is the reason. Do note I saw other examples of this but the story I shared above was the most pronounced example.

    Just after all this doubt began to creep in, a friend contacted me and this friend also expressed some serious doubts. And just after that came the big one - released September 18, 2015

    "C. W. Chanter" and this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWataSs3cSQ

    On The Ruiner, Illuminati Insider Interview Analysis

    Then, a few days later (September 22, 2015), though I had honestly attempted to help an ex-TOTer with her DDOS attacks on her forum, she left me a silly, cryptic message "someone's been talking" implying that word got out to the suspected DDOS bad guy that she had involved the police in her attempts to chase down the bad guy and I realized I had had enough of all the drama, all the BS and I realized that at the heart of it all was... Shane the Ruiner.

    I wrote Shane I was done with it all and I was moving on.

    And then the fun began... well... fun I guess from the perspective of the Shaneolytes. Stay tuned.
    All the above is all and only my opinion. It may contain some sharing of components of my current operating strategy and some foundational components of my current world view - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Originally posted by donk View Post
    Because maybe it’s unrelated, but I see an aggressiveness in the community to elevate Joseph Farrell, Richard Dolan, and Linda Moulton Howe (in that order, to different degrees) while being super-hyper-critical of everyone else.
    Maybe because they do actual research the old-fashioned way and can cite and defend their sources, instead of just making up nonsense stories and leaving you to take their word for it. If you've ever had to write a high school or college paper where you have to cite actual sources for your information and include a bibliography, then you have an idea of what I mean.

    There is a reason that these things are important. Unfortunately some people have to learn this the hard way.
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    Quote Originally posted by Sam Hunter View Post
    [...] and so when I started to see the changes in the story and I started to see how he was manipulated by the number one Shaneolyte, that is when I saw the metaphor of "handler" applicable. I never meant it to imply that the number one Shaneolyte was an witting Illuminati or CIA MK Ultra specialist as later I was accused of saying. I did refer to this number one Shaneolyte as "his handler" but the above story is the reason. [...]
    Just for the record, Sam, even though you never meant to imply that Shane's Number One was "on somebody's payroll", that is what we here in the mod room were already suspecting long before you yourself started noticing her "handling" of Shane. And I'm not saying that we were correct in that judgement, but it is what we were all suspecting at that point in time. And she herself has certainly been behaving — and is still behaving — in manners consistent with (and warranting of) that suspicion.

    Mind you, I'm not saying that she is on the payroll. I personally think that she's playing a very dangerous game with her own mind, and through it, with the minds of others around her. As the cult leader's right hand, and with her own worship of the cult leader, she's actually becoming more dangerous than he is, because he knows what he's doing but she does not. She's winging it, and I don't think she's aware of how much influence she has on the other Shaneolytes. She's deluding* herself so badly that she has fallen prey to her own woo-woo'ism — if that was not a real word yet, then it is one now.

    Either way, we've all seen the dangers of cults and sects with charismatic leaders over the ages — just as an example, think of the mass suicides.


    [*] As I have stated it before, Male Rock Star Syndrome™ meets Bored Housewife Syndrome™. She was already franticly following Corey Goode's every move before she discovered the Ruiner blog, and as soon as she did, she and all other Corey followers switched sides overnight and became the Ruiner cult, with whom Corey became an instant persona non grata simply because Shane had declared him a liar.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    With my apologies for breaking the chronology of Sam's two successive posts, but I only found this one after I had already replied to the other one.


    Quote Originally posted by Sam Hunter View Post
    [...]

    In 2004 I spoke with Stewart Swerdlow about my experience when six years old – he said it sounded like “a secret government op.” [...]
    This is an important clue. Don't lose sight of this.

    Quote Originally posted by Sam Hunter View Post
    [...]

    I grew up on “monsters.” Meaning I was a fanatic about the famous monsters of Hollywood film land. My father’s favorite was Dracula. In fact, the first book I was given by my father was Bram Stoker’s Dracula when I was about 12 years old. I was so into the monsters I had all the monster models glow in the dark versions on my shelf where I would look at them every night when my parents turned the light out. I was living in New York City when the comic book Vampirella came out and I had every release they printed for at least the first 4 or so years.

    I always had this feeling that what happened to me when I was six and the legend of the vampire, especially Dracula were related. In year 2000 I discovered a divination deck of cards called the Crop Circle Cards. My first card ever was Card 60. I did not know at that time what 60 might mean. In 2010 I became “compelled” to start doing what I call English language Gematria which is like numerology but uses two digits. Simply assign in numerical order the number to the letter in alphabetical order… A = 1, B = 2, etc. Sometime soon after I discovered the following:

    D = 4
    r = 18
    a = 1
    c = 3
    u = 21
    l = 12
    a = 1

    when added up – this equals 60

    [...]

    Through both Karelia and another friend who was directly and to a great degree involved with Simon, I was cleared to PM him. I did and we exchanged a few PMs where he gave me his Skype contact info and we added each other to Skype with the implication he would speak with me. Sadly though, he started to ignor me and eventually this led to my post on PA stating that I felt he could show a bit better integrity than that. This is what prompted Shane to contact me as stated in the beginning of this post.

    Now to add a few more important details. My conversations with Karelia involved the mythical Anu. Anyone who has watched some of Simon’s early videos would probably recall Simon’s encounters with “Daddy Drac.” Via Karelia I was able to confirm that Anu and Daddy Drac are one and the same and that this is also how Simon saw it.

    I then suddenly recalled reading Sitchin’s The 12th Planet and that the Sumerians used a “sexagesimal number system” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexagesimal
    which is a base 60 system and that the head Sumerian “god” was Anu and that he was assigned the number 60!

    It was all coming together… Dracula 60, Anu (Daddy Drac) 60, Karelia’s love for the Reptilians whose leader at this time was Anu, my own affinity throughout my life with Dracula, the Crop Circle Card 60, the anomalous experience of object in my left hand within a month or so at most from when the same event happened to Simon Parkes - son of Anu!

    I had even printed the symbol of Anu and taped it to my mirror just below a scan of the Crop Circle Card 60 and did this in December 2014 and so when Shane contacted me January 3, 2015… and within one week of this contact from Shane... based on the content of the chats, despite my desire to keep at least one foot on the ground… based on Shane telling me that he was a son of Anu… and what you will read further on in this post - I opened my mind that perhaps I might be one as well. Read carefully… I opened my mind that at some level of my being, I might also be a metaphorical “child” of the mythical Draco Reptilian race. I went from considering it metaphorically all the way to conceptually at the soul level. Clearly I had no physical relationship with Anu in this physical reality (as Shane later told us Shaneolytes that he experienced - as just one specific example - the meeting when 11 of the 21 parents decided they were going to agree to having their heads cut off so they could die (this being the only way).

    Now anyone who reads the first 100 pages of chats I had with Shane which (as I already stated) occurred within the first seven days of meeting Shane while considering my own personal story and seeking that preceded this week, might understand how I might have been a little vulnerable… wanting to believe that perhaps I might finally find the answer to what the heck happened when I was six years old and why… and this is how I fell in so deep and so hard with Shane. [...]
    Synchronicities are abound, Sam, but that doesn't mean that they signify what you think they signify. They are just a tool by which the universe manipulates all of us.

    I will give you an example of a synchronicity which absolutely did not mean what it suggested. About a year ago, I was experiencing a certain pain and discomfort which prompted me to think that I might have prostate cancer, which is definitely something that runs in my family. My father's elder brother died of it — I don't know what his younger brother died of because we didn't have any contact with him, and my dad himself died of something completely unrelated — and my paternal grandfather had also died of it.

    Just as I was pondering whether I might have prostate cancer while I was driving my car over to the village where I grew up — I rather buy my groceries over there than in the town where I live now — I saw a man on the sidewalk on the opposite side of the road, who looked just like my uncle who had passed away of prostate cancer a few months earlier. Except that this man was of course not my uncle, but in the corners of my eyes, he looked just like him — well, not so much anymore after I actually turned my head toward him to take a better look — and he was walking exactly where my uncle used to walk his dog. And yet I don't have prostate cancer, because I had an ultrasound done of my entire abdomen and my prostate isn't even enlarged yet, let alone that there would be any tumors on it.

    (The pain had been caused by kidney stones moving around in my body. This is a condition I am very susceptible to, and I get that a couple of times every year. The urine duct passes through the prostate, and because my kidney stones always have jagged edges, I have scars inside my entire plumbing from all the way up in the kidneys all the way down to the faucet.)

    So then what was the purpose of that synchronicity? Was the universe simply trying to scare me? Well, yeah, possibly it was. I don't know. All I know is that it doesn't necessarily mean what you think it means, and that — at least in my own reality bubble — the universe is neither benevolent nor malevolent. It simply serves its own agenda, and it can be callously manipulative and deceptive if that's what's required for that agenda to play out.

    Quote Originally posted by Sam Hunter View Post
    [...]
    Anyways, as this chat went on, I became more and more open to the possibility that at least at my “soul’s level” I might also be a son of Anu. In reading through these first 100 pages, I can now see how the information I fed to Shane may have been used by Shane to create the impression that I might possibly be and that by so doing, this entangles me with Shane (via Anu) in a way that anyone with any knowledge of human vulnerability would know entangles at a deep, emotional level.

    I will show a few more statements made by Shane that came soon after -

    [4:10:30 PM] Shaynard: He told me I would find my "brothers" and they would need my help. Which shows he does care about them all even if he only praises the two. [Enki and Enlil]

    a few minutes later this one…

    [4:11:39 PM] Shaynard: That he allowed us to speak. Says a great deal.

    and then a few minutes later this one

    [4:13:05 PM] Shaynard: Does Karelia draw a connection between herself and our father?

    Note that he uses the words “our father.”

    Ever since this chat he called me “brother” all the time.[...]
    Yeah, he played you really well, Sam. And when I myself was being ridiculed over at Avalon by Paul (and a few Avalon Privileged Caste Members™) on account of something I had read and heard — and thus naively posted a thread about — with regard to the Obama administration having procured thousands of industrially manufactured portable guillotines from China and Korea, Shane approached me as well, also via a PM.

    This was still shortly before I was banned from Avalon, and Shane was also one of the first people to greet me here at The One Truth (also by way of a PM) after I had signed up here, and then I told him all about how and why I had been banned from Avalon. He was very cordial, but we didn't speak anymore for a long time after that — not that there was any bad blood, but we simply did not communicate anymore.

    Then, after Corey had left The One Truth, Shane contacted me again via a PM, and said that he wanted to pick up again with what he felt was "a young friendship". When I asked him why he hadn't done that before, he said he didn't want to influence me (or something to that effect) when the whole Corey-versus-Shane battle was going on. If he was truthful in that statement, then it's commendable. However, in the back of my mind, something told me that he had simply had no use for me earlier, and that he was now trying to gain my trust after Corey's departure from The One Truth.

    I did however tell him that I wasn't into his material, and I did also warn him about Breeze (alias Realeyes) and Ria. I told him that the two of them had turned his blog into a religion, and he actually agreed with me on that, even though he stated that "they were very sweet". So whatever his motives are, he knew very well what was going on, and yet it wouldn't stop him from carrying on.

    And once again, I haven't heard from him anymore since that communication. And I doubt I still would, given that he was exposed in the meantime, and that I wrote up that Statement from The One Truth's Management with regard to "The Ruiner Material", which I know he's read.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    I like your point about synchronicity, Aragorn. It doesn't always mean what we think it means. I experience it a lot and I find that the reasoning, thinking mind isn't so good at interpreting it.

    I follow my instincts and they work very well. I can't explain how because it's not a predictable or rational thing. It is what it is. The main thing is to not let the ego and desires get in the way. And to not overthink things.

    The universe shows us and teaches us what we need which certainly isn't always what we want.

    My instincts told me not to PM Shane and I didn't. I certainly couldn't have explained why other than to say it's my instincts.

    There have been gobs of synchronicities since I began to explore the alternative world. What do they mean? I can't say. But I'm still following my instincts. They've led me to places I'd never have been able to predict or control.

    bsbray, you made a good point regarding Dolan and others. Research takes work and is not the same as creative writing. Dolan even talks about how his research led him in directions he was not initially interested in.

    Maggie, you make me smile. Not only did we have our son sleep with us for the first few years, I would masticate food for him. Trust me, I never planned that!

    I was briefly a paralegal. In court and depositions there are 'expert witnesses'. I learned that that's a name for someone you pay to come into court, show some credentials, and say what you pay them to say. Beware of 'experts'.

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    This all IMO appears to be having Corey look more favourable, yes ?, lol.

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    Sorry to side-track a bit here, and forgive if you answered this...I'm only on the first paragraph at the top of the page (your second post)...what possessed you to go to Stephen Hodges, of all people?

    EDITED TO ADD: I'm halfway through now, and you aren't very clear (to me, anyway)...you knew/were friends with/were emotionally attached to Shane BEFORE he started the ruiner blog??

    So my point is that long, long before the blog existed and far longer before the day I actually knew Shane was the author of the Ruiner blog, I had found myself deeply entangled in a powerful, emotional way with Shane.
    The stuff that follows that seems to paint a picture where there was an off-forum cult Shane was leading and you were part of for some time. How did you meet Shane in the first place?
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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    This all IMO appears to be having Corey look more favourable, yes ?, lol.
    How? Because Shane is looking "unfavourable"? Wasn't Shane the sooper-secret insider source for a lot of DW & CG's early horsesh!t?

    Your comment, sort of revealing a bit of how you see reality, sure gives me insight on how the dude still has anyone listening to him...
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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    This all IMO appears to be having Corey look more favourable, yes ?, lol.

    Different yet for me not more favorable.

    If person A is wittingly playing a game with others and person B is being taken advantage of and puppeteered to perpetuate a game on others, there is indeed a difference BUT its still a game played on others...

    ...so for me, the difference does not make Corey any more favorable. In fact, I am sad for Corey and see his situation as pathetic.
    All the above is all and only my opinion. It may contain some sharing of components of my current operating strategy and some foundational components of my current world view - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Originally posted by donk View Post
    Sorry to side-track a bit here, and forgive if you answered this...I'm only on the first paragraph at the top of the page (your second post)...what possessed you to go to Stephen Hodges, of all people?

    EDITED TO ADD: I'm halfway through now, and you aren't very clear (to me, anyway)...you knew/were friends with/were emotionally attached to Shane BEFORE he started the ruiner blog??



    The stuff that follows that seems to paint a picture where there was an off-forum cult Shane was leading and you were part of for some time. How did you meet Shane in the first place?
    This one is again another "led by the Universe" things - really ironic when looking back. Recall that in early January I had left PA. Recall my mention that I had chosen to leave because several folks in the group I was tight with had left. And note that the epicenter of it all was purportedly Bill Ryan. I had no negative experiences with Bill in any way ever and in fact, the ones I did have had always been positive. But I chose to listen to what some in the group said regarding Bill and I have already posted that I believe I made a terrible mistake in accepting what they said without having my own first hand experiences of the same nature. Within a month of leaving PA I had been told many things which would paint the man as some witting henchman of dark forces and I will avoid all the details as they really are not important.

    I had received an e-mail from Christine in either late January or early February... I know I still have the e-mail - anyways... in the e-mail was a link to a thread on inPHInet.net that apparently was a rant thread of Stephen Hodges against Bill Ryan. The e-mail was lengthy and that link was somewhere in the middle. When I came to the part of the e-mail that had the link, I immediately clicked the link and found all sorts of Hodges rantings against Bill. Here's an important point - If I had just read the very next sentence in the e-mail, I would have read Christine's comment that she viewed Stephen Hodges as highly unstable... which I took to mean - "take the info at the inPHInet.net sight with a grain of salt." But as I stated, I only clicked on the link. My point in stating this is to make sure that no one concludes Christine had ill intention... in fact, after I later read the whole mail, I considered her comment to suggest the blabberings of Hodges should not be taken seriously.

    This is when I foolishly wrote what I thought was a very soft post as to why I retired from PA. A few days later someone told me they saw my PA status changed to deactivated. Long afterward I had learned that Paul had read my post and decided that I was not a friend of PA and changed my status. In looking back, I can understand why he did. Without going into all that again, just note that Bill invited me back months later and Paul wrote me some kind words too. In essence, I had given PA many good reasons to never want me back and yet, nine months after I left and after writing a thank you to Bill for what he did and does on his forum, I was invited back with a very clear warning - no third chances.

    OK so now back to Stephen Hodges.

    And this comment here is for Aragorn who wrote a lengthy reply above and which I will reply to in detail but YES! I have learned that sometimes these synchronicities do indeed lead to troubles and I have since changed my view that synchs are all and only created and distributed by some all benevolent deity or force in the universe.

    OK so... here's how I found myself having Skype phone calls with Stephen Hodges and his friend Rhi (I cannot recall how she spells her name).

    Something in Stephen Hodges name... had the numbers 676767. 19 happens to be my most favorite and intimate number. Because of that I know that 67 is the 19th prime number. Seeing that there are three 67s, I realized that this could be converted to three 19s which adds to another very special number for me - 57.

    Because of studies I had recently completed regarding the discipline of "magic" I had come to see how the word "magician" (when using the same English language Gematria I mentioned in the post above) = 57!

    And on the inPHInet forum, under the user name he was using (I can't recall now what that was) was some message that seemed to state "resident magician."

    Sooooooo I wrote Stephen an e-mail citing all this and he seemed impressed like he had found his Edward Kelly (him being Dr. John Dee) and wanted to speak with me. We did several times and at length over the next few weeks. This all led up to his communication with me on Saturday March 14th to "get the goods on Simon" where the Universe once again uncannily brought Corey Goode to my Skype which led to the strange "magical" experience I had a few days later which many I spoke with told me was intentional black magic performed by Simon Parkes and aimed right at me. Please see the post above that shares part of that event and which provides the link which details that very experience.

    And as I say in that link, I cannot know if Simon Parkes actually performed some sort of black magical action aimed at me... but if he did, I can certainly admit that I deserved it. As I also state in that post I linked back to which shows the strange black "sigel" on my purple (should I say Mantid purple?) shirt.
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    Quote Originally posted by Sam Hunter View Post
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    OK so... here's how I found myself having Skype phone calls with Stephen Hodges and his friend Rhi (I cannot recall how she spells her name).
    Rhiannon.



    Quote Originally posted by Sam Hunter View Post
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    And on the inPHInet forum, under the user name he was using (I can't recall now what that was) was some message that seemed to state "resident magician."
    He was using the nickname Houdini while he was there.
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    Quote Originally posted by donk View Post
    How? Because Shane is looking "unfavourable"? Wasn't Shane the sooper-secret insider source for a lot of DW & CG's early horsesh!t?

    Your comment, sort of revealing a bit of how you see reality, sure gives me insight on how the dude still has anyone listening to him...
    According to dozens of comments from Shane directly to me and other Shaneolytes, yes... I cite one example of that in a post above which ironically did not fit into the Number One Shaneolyte's acceptable paradigm but Shane probably can remember what he told me... and that he was the one who told Wilcrook "the reason God created" which Wilcrook stated in one of his presentations, which was recorded on a bootleg which I heard on the internet whereby when i told Shane that Wilcrook has stated it, Shane told me he was the one who told that to Wilcrook.

    If I recall correctly, it was Corey who told me that Corey actually introduced Shane to Wilcrook. Unfortunatley, If my memory is correct, I have little confidence that it might be true based on the track record I have with things Corey has stated which I am certain he knew were lies when he stated them -

    The most significant Corey lie is when Corey stated in late April, 2015 that he had just learned the day before that Shane was the Ruiner. I know this is a lie because he told me to my face on April 17, 2015 that Shane was the Ruiner. When people lie, it is very hard to know when they are telling the truth or lying. So for that reason. it is hard to know if Corey actually introduced Shane to Wilcrook. Of course, we can't believe what Shane would say to that for the very same reason. His track record of lying. For example, when Corey leaked a Skype transcript between Corey and Shane to Christine and I, it was obvious that Shane was either lying OR that he was a witting, on the payroll "Illuminati" operative. When this transcript got around to all the other Shaneolytes (and who knows who else) Shane was asked about this in an interview (I believe the one with Thomas) and Shane stated "I lied." I heard the words. Now it is possible that interview has been edited. I also recall Shane being asked about "the son of Anu" business... yet I don't think that is there on the interview anymore... maybe it is.

    Do note that an e-mail came to me from one of the Shaneolytes suggesting that private information of mine would be released if I continued to cause trouble for this Shaneolyte. My comment about that now is this - I am very willing that every single shred of truth come out regarding the whole affair and that if anyone wishes to insinuate anything about my activities related to work which they may wish might be seen as illegal from any jurisdictional authorities, I have no exposure in this way. In addition, if someone thinks my story about the possibilities surrounding my father (who has been dead since 1979) being brought public is any threat, I have already received the clearance I need during the summer of 2015. The only reason I haven't is out of respect for some folks related to the story still being alive. That every conversation i had with this individual was revealed to have been recorded (though I was never asked much less told) says far more about who I had been speaking with. I am sure on those recordings in all the conversations we had about so many people in this lovely alternative community and comments I had made could be used to "damage" my "reputation" with those folks but interestingly enough... I can't imagine commenting on anyone besides Bill Ryan that has not already blacklisted me thanks to the smear campaign I endured when I "stopped believing Shane" and made the one mistake I made with the one I will refer to as "person c." I came clean with Bill and was forgiven as is obvious to anyone. How ironic is it that the advanced beings of the Shaneolyte group can justify threats, can make up lies for smear campaigns and can destroy relationships while at the same time presenting themselves to be advanced beings whose wisdoms we should all listen to in their Youtube discussions, "interviews" and podcasts and whose blogs we should read for inspiration and to learn important lessons for the soul?

    A few of them once told me my problem was that I had not discovered my purpose. I now ask, Is my purpose perhaps to be truthful and revealing? I actually see my purpose in life is to live. But I have the feeling that there are folks out there who feel they need to define specific purposes. You can be in their club if your purpose fits into their agenda. If not... "you have yet to discover your purpose."

    Seriousely
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    You still didn't answer how you met Shane before the ruiner blog...or that I misinterpreted your post?
    What is the purpose of your presence?

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    Quote Originally posted by donk
    Because maybe it’s unrelated, but I see an aggressiveness in the community to elevate Joseph Farrell, Richard Dolan, and Linda Moulton Howe (in that order, to different degrees) while being super-hyper-critical of everyone else. Those three are like the Hulk Hogan/Undertaker/Roddy Piper old school legends…with legitmate skills…TRUTH to why they’re elevated within the arena…but the fact remains, they’re still part of circus…and unless they have some of those classified patents and/or hidden technologies, they’re still under the umbrella of the Church of Science all the rest of are.
    Unless you are out of the circus, ie, you believe and practice self-sufficiency, you have your own scientific researchers and your own professionals who verify "outside" information. You may "need" (a terrible word) to align yourself with some agent of chaos that is a part of the circus. And if you don't, your ramblings will go without links, without references to support your statements. As far as pure face-value for others who can identify "truth"? <shrug/> Those people are few and far between; if our society could be described as a library, it would be filled with book about book. (as opposed to book about relevant topics)

    That does to show how much we appeal to authorities in our midst. Very few academics risk sharing their own original ideas; and with so much study of authoritative references to "form" an academic, it is quite unlikely that anyones _original_ ideas have not been influenced.

    And as long as you and I admit to being receptive to aspects of the circus show, I think there is a lot of merit in identifying what is reasonably well based and solidly researched "entertainment" from fantastical entertainment.

    I've heard Mr Farrell refer himself as a "just a hack living in South Dakota"; he doesn't want to be identified as an authority on his subject even though you and I know he is more knowledgable than most. He preferes that people who really interested go and research to find out what there is to know if they have any doubt in his work. If only science was as generous as that!

    Church of Science: I think you refer to an institution rather than a practice. You would be under the umbrella only if you cared what that institution had to say about you, ie, your reputation in the science community is something you value.

    Anyway to conflate creators of imaginary fantasy works with what Mr Farrell does appears to be the equivalent of saying that the Cinderella Fairy Tale is of historic value as it shares a story of the misdeeds of an ancient household.

    I bring up this absurd comparison only to say that such a position implies that no value should be given to the process by which our "entertainment" pieces are contrived.

    Quote Originally posted by donk
    Anyways…this is just a long and plodding way to basically point to my tagline, and remind the arena….fighters, observers, administrators, side shows, vendors, et al., we should always be asking about why has information come into our awareness, who is delivering it, and what is their relationship to the information. I fear that we too often come to conclusions that may not be as balanced as far as heart/mind or intuition/deduction. Maybe discussions like these can lead to better understanding…………then again, maybe they just intentional loops to keep us entertained and distracted from learning anything useful.
    I like your signature as a primary validator. Thanks for expanding on that.

    Learning something that is useful depends on what you want to be doing. I expect that entertaining forms of education are generally more successful than dry boilerplate methods.

    While writing this posting it dawned on me that our education system hardly spends any time at all exploring/refining creative ideas or notions that arise in students; it spends almost all of its time layering on information from "authorities" in every area. We are required to "color within the lines".

    The only outlet students often have are in creative moments where they write short stories, draw or produce some form of art that subsequently gets "graded", or they get disciplined for their inappropriate expressions that may break the rules. Later in life that is all further "depreciated" by the demands of society and economics.

    It stands to reason that most people will end their education programs not knowing what they really want to be doing. And likely without having been given much formal structure to the creative ideas and impulsive imagination they started with. They will have a greatly reduced creative capacity as a result of this near constant effort to depreciate or ignore individuality while all the efforts for status-quo are applied to develop collectivism.

    So, it is commendable that an individual like Mr Farrell has been able to succeed in these circumstances. That he is doing what he wants and more importantly he hasn't gotten lost in the "wilderness" of the aimless political windstorm we may also call "the circus". Perhaps the same complement could be given to others too?
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    Quote Originally posted by donk View Post
    You still didn't answer how you met Shane before the ruiner blog...or that I misinterpreted your post?
    You missed it - it is in a previous post in this thread at the very beginning of the post -

    http://jandeane81.com/threads/9100-R...#post841949237
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