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    I didn't know Trump was in Twitch, but then again I don't use Twitch.

    It would be huge news if Twitter suspended him, but I doubt that would happen.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I didn't know Trump was in Twitch, but then again I don't use Twitch.

    It would be huge news if Twitter suspended him, but I doubt that would happen.
    Twitter hasn't suspended him yet, but they do fact-check him. It's a start.
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    He whined about that too like the baby he is.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Twitter hasn't suspended him yet, but they do fact-check him. It's a start.
    Just what we need, Jack Dorsey and company being the truth police. What could possibly go wrong there?
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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
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    Twitter hasn't suspended him yet, but they do fact-check him. It's a start.
    Just what we need, Jack Dorsey and company being the truth police. What could possibly go wrong there?
    Probably less than if no one were to point out that Captain Chaos™ is a liar, an idiot, and an incompetent fool who doesn't even understand the law. Somebody's got to do it, because his own administration certainly won't, given that half of them are his own relatives.

    Look at the facts being checked ─ the data ─ instead of at who is checking them.
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    you remember that baby blimp thing that was so popular awhile back...nothing could have been ever ever more accurate. It is the hallmark of the personality-disordered. Childish emotions.
    “If you cannot do great things, do small things in a great way.”

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Probably less than if no one were to point out that Captain Chaos™ is a liar, an idiot, and an incompetent fool who doesn't even understand the law. Somebody's got to do it, because his own administration certainly won't, given that half of them are his own relatives.

    Look at the facts being checked ─ the data ─ instead of at who is checking them.
    That’s not the point. The point is platforms like Twitter and YouTube are supposed to be the neutral middleman creating an open space for public discourse, not also being the sole arbiters of who’s naughty and who’s nice.
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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
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    Twitter hasn't suspended him yet, but they do fact-check him. It's a start.
    Just what we need, Jack Dorsey and company being the truth police. What could possibly go wrong there?
    Probably less than if no one were to point out that Captain Chaos™ is a liar, an idiot, and an incompetent fool who doesn't even understand the law. Somebody's got to do it, because his own administration certainly won't, given that half of them are his own relatives.

    Look at the facts being checked ─ the data ─ instead of at who is checking them.
    That’s not the point. The point is platforms like Twitter and YouTube are supposed to be the neutral middleman creating an open space for public discourse, not also being the sole arbiters of who’s naughty and who’s nice.
    Pointing out something as wrong when it is indeed wrong is neutral, Fred. It has nothing to do with people's political preferences, any more than that our moderation here at the forum would have anything to do with our political preferences.

    And that's what this is. It's moderation, although it has already been clear for quite a while now that Señor Zuckerberg has other ideas.
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    You go ahead and trust these platforms to decipher, and demonstrate to us, what’s true a who deserves a Pinocchio. I’ll pass on that one.
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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    You go ahead and trust these platforms to decipher, and demonstrate to us, what’s true a who deserves a Pinocchio. I’ll pass on that one.
    Why, Fred? Don't you care about the truth? Do you have a need to believe everything that somebody posts at face value, even if they're full of shit? Does the fact that someone says "This is wrong, and here's why" upset you? Or does it only upset you when it's because someone has the audacity to stand up against the King of the United States of God Bless America?
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    Oh here we go again...
    The unexamined life is not worth living.

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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    Oh here we go again...
    Doesn't really matter, or does it? No matter what I say, you'll pick it apart anyway and then argue against it, just as when Dreamtimer says something. It's getting old, man.
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    Well I’ll tell you what Aragorn, if I’ve got your panties in such a wad that you can’t even defend a point of view for long without going straight to insults, again, here’s how I can fix it. There’s not a lot of reasons for me to hang out here much anyway these days, but from now on when I do happen by with something to comment on, or something to question, I’m simply adding two more people to my list of no more need to talk to. One has already been NAP for some time now, and you and DT are hereby numbers 2 and 3.

    Problem solved.
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    Why so sulky, Fred?

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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    Well I’ll tell you what Aragorn, if I’ve got your panties in such a wad that you can’t even defend a point of view for long without going straight to insults, again, here’s how I can fix it. There’s not a lot of reasons for me to hang out here much anyway these days, but from now on when I do happen by with something to comment on, or something to question, I’m simply adding two more people to my list of no more need to talk to. One has already been NAP for some time now, and you and DT are hereby numbers 2 and 3.

    Problem solved.
    Please point out where the insult was, Fred. Or is an allegation of prejudice by definition also already an insult these days? Because if it is, then you've already insulted both Dreamtimer and myself quite a bit more by now than either of us has ever insulted you.

    For quite a while already now, every time I announce some staff decision, and every time Dreamtimer or I post a touchy comment about a certain subject ─ and especially if it involves the good ol' US of A ─ you question our motives and you misunderstand what is being said. But we cannot question your motives and point out that you are more biased than you think you are?

    Do you believe you hold some higher moral ground than we do? If your answer to that question is "yes", then I'm going to be bringing out an insulting word for you ─ it starts with "hypo-". But so far I haven't done that yet. I don't see anything in what I've written that could possibly be construed as an insult.

    If you can't stand that people question your motives for criticizing and/or mocking their every move (so to speak), then you shouldn't be doing that to them either. It's that simple.


    P.S.: My reference to the King of the United States of God Bless America was not a reference to you, if that is what you think ─ and if you did, why would you think so? It was a reference to Donald Trump. Just to be in the clear.





    Rhetorical question: What the hell is it with all these ego manifestations lately?
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