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    It was a nice try by Mr. Brand (not yet integrated his intellectual information) ... but his approach is sound ... Trump should be treated as a mental patient. To some degree our experiences both good and bad make us functional in a real world, Trump, on the other hand, has transcended the functional to the certifiable.
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    Lol your calling two very intelligent men dumb, one ponders.

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    dumb? no, one is not very well integrated as yet and the other is a lunatic ... not a whisper of 'dumb' however, you might not be referring to me after all.

    But then, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of 'dumb' as an appropriate opinion.
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    What NAP said does not imply that either of them are dumb.

    He said that Russell needs to integrate his info better. That would be about techniques of argumentation and making a case.

    He said Trump is certifiable. That's about mental health, not intelligence.

    I think it's pretty obvious that Trump isn't stupid. He just has no morals and terrible judgement. He's certainly smart enough to pull the wool over many folks' eyes. When people hear what they want to hear, confidence men can manipulate them.

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    Becoming Integrated
    Personal Reflections on Emotional Sobriety


    Do you ever feel internally off-balance, where you can’t seem to hold on to any idea of who you are, what you are becoming, and where you are headed?

    These feelings are often independent of our outward circumstances. For example, we may or may not have a job or relationship that triggers our insecurities but we can feel so fractured that our thoughts constantly race, we randomly cry, and we make little to no sense to others as we grasp at some semblance of security in our lives. I believe that this sense of security is our relationship to the emotional context of our lives -- the degree of our emotional sobriety.

    Not long ago, I was in that very place. For six years, I had been in a secure job that had good people and benefits but I struggled to internalize the value and worth of my work. I had been living in a great part of town, but was having neighbor problems and needed to move. The dating scene for me was non-existent and had been for far too long. Despite my consistent and dedicated spiritual discipline, I felt deprived of any joy and passion. That only added to my frustrations and trapped feelings because to me, emotional sobriety is one of the gifts of an earnest spiritual practice, and I was feeling less than emotionally sober.

    After many days of sharing these scattered feelings with my spiritual mentor, he suggested I write on the question, “What am I doing to block myself from major change?” Of course, I agreed to take the action, but resisted the exercise for a few weeks out of contempt that I was somehow responsible for the seemingly hopeless, joyless state of my life. When I did attempt to write on the question, I rambled away in my notebook. Then one day, the word “pride” leaked out on the page, and I knew that it was that very thing that stood in the way of major change from happening in my life, like an internal guard protecting me. The more I wrote, the more I realized my pride was insulating me from having to start over again. Who would I be, what would I become and where would I be headed if I had to start over?

    As a result of that clear, internal awareness, I became willing to let go of my pride and to start over… whatever that might mean or look like. Synchronistically, I met a man and in that cosmic, fated meeting with him, he became the catalyst I had needed to instigate the long awaited change in my life. I left my job and moved out of my apartment. Because I had been willing to let go of what was blocking me, the timing was right and those decisions came from a clear state of mind and emotion. My life changed in what felt like an instant, but deep down I knew that it was a part of a bigger picture, one that had been in motion for days, months, even years before. And because of the spiritual work I had been doing, I felt carried in a way that was unique and extraordinary. It was a revelation for me that good things could happen to me, and it was no small revelation, for up until this point my pride told me that it was foolish to want anything good at all.

    During this time of transformation, I sincerely believed that I was to build a life with the man I saw as a soulmate. However, the relationship abruptly ended four months later. It felt like a death. I had to transition into a temporary living space. I wasn’t ready to decide where my next home would be nor what my career would be. For the last three months, I have been a transient in the external world, literally packing my bags every few days, moving my body around until I “know” where I am headed.

    As unsettling as the movement can be, I recently had a friend remark that I am speaking more concisely. More thoughtfully, she added, “Integrated. You’re becoming integrated.” Immediately, I felt the resonance of the word. Integrated. “That’s it!” I replied. A wave of serenity moved from my heart to my solar plexus, and I became aware of my feet sturdy and strong beneath me. She had named my present circumstances, like naming a newborn child, and I stood in the feeling more aware than I had even two minutes prior.
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    Trump's ego is so fragile that he can never admit making mistakes.
    It really makes me pity him even though he makes terrible decisions.
    Being "mental" doesn't take your responsibility away though.

    Should one feel pity towards a narcissist who is always toxic and destructive?

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    Good question, those types are very difficult to empathize with because their pain is so deeply embedded that in most cases even they are not aware of it. It truly is symbolic of the self being run by a demon. It is driven by emotional and psychological adaptation to preserve the ego, what seems if not actually is life itself. Is it possible to be sympathetic to the buried threatened child that forms the core of the being? yeah, probably, but only from a distance. Which is the dilemma we are faced with, in the U.S. anyway, how to distance oneself from the President of the United States, especially one so hell bent on destruction.
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    Sure. Feel both pity and love. Both will lead to doing the right thing which is removing him from a position which he does not belong in, and helping him back into a life which might help him to heal.

    That, of course, would involve paying for his crimes. This would then be what is called 'tough love'.

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    Good thoughts and I would agree with them. Ex-presidents usually get pardoned though.

    Trump's honeymoon with Faux "news" seems to be ending just like his term too.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...68779575615494
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    If Trump accepts a pardon then he has openly admitted guilt. Granted, that is not the same as punishment.

    I might have posted a video from the Lincoln Project. I can't recall at the moment. This one is from VoteVets:

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    All Americans have served their country in the military. Not just 'one side'.


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