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    There are massive protests going on over this tax bill that is supposedly reforming the tax code and has only been introduced without debate, has barely been read and is being pushed through super fast while they still have the majority.

    I know I'm repeating myself, though not from terribly recently. If the media was truly liberal it would be all over reporting this. It really isn't.

    When 80% of the population hates this bill, there is no ground to stand on calling oneself a populist. The middle class tax breaks expire after a handful of years. The corporate and rich tax breaks never expire.

    The swamp is being well watered. And the media is not liberal.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    I posted (somewhere) an article by Nate Silver where he was wondering if Trump's election was a republican wave or a last gasp as the pendulum swings. It looks like the latter.

    The wave that's happening is that Democrats are winning special elections like gangbusters and they are actually out canvassing and talking to people in republican areas. This is something they were totally slacking on before.

    The same night that Jones got elected, a Democrat was elected to the state senate in Iowa. This is one of many Democrat wins in the state which had 31-34 point shifts in voting. This is a wave.

    But it's not Galactic.
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    We are witnessing the last moments of a declining empire...

    The incredibly corrupt government with all of the alphabet agencies & deep state, they just need to go.

    Personally I have nothing against America itself, it's a beautiful country filled with many good people.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    I posted (somewhere) an article by Nate Silver where he was wondering if Trump's election was a republican wave or a last gasp as the pendulum swings. It looks like the latter.

    The wave that's happening is that Democrats are winning special elections like gangbusters and they are actually out canvassing and talking to people in republican areas. This is something they were totally slacking on before.

    The same night that Jones got elected, a Democrat was elected to the state senate in Iowa. This is one of many Democrat wins in the state which had 31-34 point shifts in voting. This is a wave.

    But it's not Galactic.
    I'm pushing for Galactic, but whatever you do, don't let Modwiz know... He did bump up against my brain though...I think 'authoritarian versus human' is a workable concept.
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    <sigh> it's Trump's nature...he's a psychopath, I've known it from almost the moment he opened his mouth for the first time. I never really knew who he was before...His type of human is not one I hardly ever check for depth. There is none.

    It's a very crazy world we live in...

    One thing I did want to point out and it is one of those fundamental things again and it's not a judgment, it's an observation.

    Over 70% of whites voted for Roy Moore in the Alabama election. This really does not bode well for the future of America or Humans. We just can't seem to get over that hump.
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    Those white voters are aging out. The young white vote is not going republican anymore. And apparently millennials are voting a lot more and younger than the prior generation.

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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    <sigh> it's Trump's nature...he's a psychopath, I've known it from almost the moment he opened his mouth for the first time. I never really knew who he was before...His type of human is not one I hardly ever check for depth. There is none.

    It's a very crazy world we live in...

    One thing I did want to point out and it is one of those fundamental things again and it's not a judgment, it's an observation.

    Over 70% of whites voted for Roy Moore in the Alabama election. This really does not bode well for the future of America or Humans. We just can't seem to get over that hump.
    Alabama is a nice place to be FROM...

    ...I know, I’m from there and now live in ‘zonie land.

    There’s a reason for the season.
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    I just got another flash from Trump and his motivations. He is as much of creature of the Cold War, The Great Soviet Union and The Great United States as Putin is. That is why Trump lavishes affection on Putin. Trump believes he's going to be placed side-by-side with Putin on a historical pedestal. The great movers and shakers of the Post WWII eras. The poor pathetic fool! He needs a caretaker not a country

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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    I just got another flash from Trump and his motivations. He is as much of creature of the Cold War, The Great Soviet Union and The Great United States as Putin is. That is why Trump lavishes affection on Putin. Trump believes he's going to be placed side-by-side with Putin on a historical pedestal. The great movers and shakers of the Post WWII eras. The poor pathetic fool! He needs a caretaker not a country

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    Well he does have a Handler I'm sure.........but I guess that would differ from a Caretaker.......:-)

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    Trump imo appears to be the ultimate illusion, surrouned in mist when he likely in reality is obviousely showing great clarity in his workings imo, plus bought off by imo the powers of positive change or evolvement, back in time when he was going bankrupt COMPLETELY, not the wee bankruptcies he has had, about six years ago that was, maybe four

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    Is that coming from Russia?

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    LOl, nope, best propaganda machine is still mmmmmmmm change that, is still the ones who listen to the weres, especially usaians. Trumps lies lately and his collusion with Putin may shock and awaken many to the truth hopefully, he is an exlent pawn striking blows.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Is that coming from Russia?
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    OK...a wise person once said: "When God hates a person He/She gives them too much power to be ruined and disgraced." And it will be done! It's just a waiting game now...and I take NO pleasure in watching it happen!
    Whatever is true. Whatever is noble. Whatever is right. Whatever is lovely. Whatever is admirable. Anything of excellence and worthy of praise. Dwell on these things. Jesus Christ (I agree)

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