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    lol, Aianawa....all I can say is fck me.....glad I'm not in a swing state, cause I have no desire to vote.

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    Quote Originally posted by Divine Feminine View Post
    You sure about that? Don't cringe, but did you catch the latest?

    Former CIA Director James Woolsey Joins Trump Team
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...team/90281482/
    Yeah, I saw that. I don't know what the deal is with Woolsey specifically but it may have something to do with the fact that the Clintons also distrusted the Bushes, enough that when the Clintons first moved into the White House they had all the phone systems gutted and replaced (the Bushes had just had it "upgraded" before they left office, apparently). It was under the Clinton administration that he was appointed head of the CIA if I remember correctly. It's conceivable that the guy is not strictly part of the Bush/Clinton faction (which itself is obviously not that warm and cozy) but some other faction that has since taken favor with Mr. Trump.

    Rudy Giuliani has clear Italian mob ties (his dad was a known mobster) and he's become a big Trump surrogate. Like the mob, Trump made a lot of his money from casinos. These are the people that analysts point out are being hurt by a shrinking middle class. So there's an example of a dissatisfied faction (the Italian mob) that has apparently turned pro-Trump while most other establishment figures remain against him.

    The military and its own intelligence arm also seems divided on Trump. Some career officers are for him and some are against, and one of Trump's closest advisors since last year has been Michael Flynn, former head of DIA (military intelligence). This was the guy who went into a rage at the CIA agents briefing Trump not too long ago, though we were never clued in as to what made the guy so mad. So there is a lot of shifting and complexity going on, but I am convinced that the threat to the Bush/Clinton power structure is real, just as the threat to CIA hegemony by an antagonistic US military is also a problem for them.

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    Quote Originally posted by Divine Feminine View Post

    Former CIA Director James Woolsey Joins Trump Team
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...team/90281482/
    Well no shit eh? And the energy scam to boot.

    I'm just going to come out and say this, and if (hopefully!) proven wrong I will eat my due dose of humble pie publicly, right here on this forum. I think Trump is acting, just as today I heard him applauding his own "performance" in front of vast crowds.

    I don't pretend to know the overall purpose, but I think this is more akin to reality t.v. as we have never imagined it. I don't believe "Make America Great Again" holds any more substance that did "Hope And Change".

    So there, I said it! We shall see.
    The unexamined life is not worth living.

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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    I'm just going to come out and say this, and if (hopefully!) proven wrong I will eat my due dose of humble pie publicly, right here on this forum. I think Trump is acting, just as today I heard him applauding his own "performance" in front of vast crowds.

    I don't pretend to know the overall purpose, but I think this is more akin to reality t.v. as we have never imagined it. I don't believe "Make America Great Again" holds any more substance that did "Hope And Change".

    So there, I said it! We shall see.

    I've felt for a long time that our entire reality is being contrived and all the top players of 'the game' are in the 'appropriate' positions to herd the masses in the desired direction.....even in the alternative topics, such as ufology.

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    Have you noticed the contrast between the globalist and nationalist themes in this election, Fred? In previous elections it's only been one form of globalism versus another form of globalism, all the way back at least to Reagan. (G.H.W. Bush made the famous "New World Order" speech, remember.) All of a sudden that's not the case again.

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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    Have you noticed the contrast between the globalist and nationalist themes in this election, Fred?
    Yes.
    The unexamined life is not worth living.

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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    He may be a puppet but the question is whose puppet? It's abundantly clear to me that he isn't a Bush/Clinton/CIA stooge. You don't think that there are legitimately warring factions in the world today Aianawa, but that some monolithic conspiracy already controls the entire world or something? I don't even think the US is entirely controlled by a single faction. There have always been lots of competing groups here, though the CIA/Bush/Clinton faction has been dominant since JFK was assassinated.

    Here's the video of Trump saying he thinks there were bombs in the WTC, starting at 5:30:


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKlPhFIE7w



    The guy really is sharp and he's been bringing conspiracy theories mainstream. Even if he loses the election, that is not going to go away. He also famously challenged Obama's birthplace (and I also think there is something funny going on there), and has been saying he believes that voter fraud is a serious issue in this country and that civilians should carefully monitor activity at polling stations. The Bushes hate Trump just as much as the Clintons.

    I know there's the Courtney Brown thread- but has anyone seen this? Another team of RVers RVed who will be the next US President and it's Trump (I can say I feel relieved as I cannot stand Hillary) http://www.thestateofreality.com/the-next-us-president

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    So Britain has had their Brexit, France is set to elect a nationalist from an anti-EU party next spring by the looks of it, and we have our anti-globalist candidate too. Just that aspect alone of what is going on globally is a huge deal. But that's only one small part of what's been going on in the last couple of years or so.

    When's the last election you saw with stuff like this?


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsLLXlVRaEM



    Not even Nixon was treated like that.
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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    So Britain has had their Brexit, France is set to elect a nationalist from an anti-EU party next spring by the looks of it, and we have our anti-globalist candidate too. Just that aspect alone of what is going on globally is a huge deal. But that's only one small part of what's been going on in the last couple of years or so.

    When's the last election you saw with stuff like this?


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsLLXlVRaEM



    Not even Nixon was treated like that.
    It's weird- I actually know people that love Hillary....................it's crazy!

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    Quote Originally posted by ERK View Post
    It's weird- I actually know people that love Hillary....................it's crazy!
    Crazy as a definition for such poor decision making is being kind. However, the two choices are an indictment of the system and collective consciousness of a decaying republic.
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    For the life of me I can not understand how a bigoted, racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, hate monger, AKA as Trump is supposed to lead this county. The vitriol, violence and hate he invokes at his rallies is a prime indicator of what will happen to this country should he become president.

    We can see the effects right now. Minorities are being attacked for walking down the street, mosques and black churches are being set on fire. Hate filled, brain-washed, easily led morons are inspired to crawl out of the woodwork like the roaches/vermin they are to show their true colors by attacking innocent people.

    Divide and conquer is the oldest trick in the book and the Cabal is using this tactic to once again to trick the non-elite into doing their bidding, i. e., elect Trump. He is one of their puppets. He is no different. The Cabal is not a monolith. There are different factions that are fighting for control. Trump is one of the faction's puppets, just like Clinton. He is no different. He is one of their bitches too. I bet they got the goods on him. Trump is friends with Jeffery Epsten, convicted pedophile. I bet there is incriminating evidence out their of his dalliances. The cabal likes to tempt their minions with vices, and then tape/record the acts for black-mail material, thus making their their puppet.
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    Quote Originally posted by lift the veil View Post
    For the life of me I can not understand how a bigoted, racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, hate monger, AKA as Trump is supposed to lead this county. The vitriol, violence and hate he invokes at his rallies is a prime indicator of what will happen to this country should he become president.
    That's been the media spin since last year, that they've been trumpeting almost 24/7. But when you look at militaristic groups like "Black Lives Matter" (you know, the activists going around calling for death to cops and white people everywhere?), they're actually being funded by globalist George Soros. I'm sure you've heard of George Soros. He's a top Clinton donor.


    Black Lives Matter: Produced By George Soros



    Black Lives Matter leader DeRay Mckesson claims to be leading a grassroots revolution for racial and economic justice, but it can be revealed that he has close connections with the privileged and is funded by George Soros and the elite for the purpose of inciting terror and furthering their agenda for a civil war and the disarmament of civilians.

    DeRay McKesson lives in a house owned by a board member of George Soros’ Open Foundation, and the BLM leader takes home a salary of $165,000 paid for by Baltimore schools district taxpayers.

    Soros groups have had several connections to Black Lives Matter organizers and activists. According to Politico, the Soros funded group The Democracy Alliance donated to several race-based movement organizations that ally with the Black Lives Matter movement.

    Many of George Soros’s groups have provided funding and guidance to the Black Lives Matter movement and affiliated organisations, with the billionaire investing $33 million in BLM alone.


    Internal documents from Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment, a group organizing the protests in Ferguson after the death of Michael Brown, showed activists getting paid.
    http://yournewswire.com/black-lives-...-george-soros/


    Hacked Soros Memo: $650,000 to Black Lives Matter

    George Soros’s Open Society Institute viewed the 2015 Baltimore unrest following the death of Freddie Gray as opening a “unique opportunity” to create “accountability” for the Baltimore police while aiding activists in reforming the city, according to hacked documents reviewed by Breitbart Jerusalem.

    The documents further confirm that the Open Society last year approved $650,000 to “invest in technical assistance and support for the groups at the core of the burgeoning #BlackLivesMatter movement.”

    The information was contained in a detailed 69-page Open Society report on the agenda of an Open Society U.S. Programs board meeting held in New York October 1 to October 2, 2015.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...reform-police/


    That's the kind of racist baiting that is actually extremely divisive, but contrary to what you think it is not coming from Trump. It's coming from the globalists that Clinton is representing. Imagine that. Who is surprised? Not me. Social justice warriors are barking up the wrong tree when they blame this on Trump.


    DC Leak Exposes Top Clinton Donor George Soros Manipulating Elections

    Billionaire investor buys access to high-powered Democrats

    One of Hillary Clinton’s biggest donors, billionaire George Soros, has been exposed in a massive hack for manipulating elections in Europe via his non-government organizations. DC Leaks revealed more than 2,500 files from Soros’ groups, most notably the Open Society Foundations. The leaks are especially concerning for Americans given Soros’ close relationship to former Secretary of State Clinton.

    So far this election cycle, the billionaire investor has donated over $25 million to Clinton and other Democratic Party members, with more expected before November. Soros has also funded Media Matters, founded by David Brock, who operates on behalf of Clinton in several dubious capacities—like running the Correct the Record SuperPAC, which hires Internet trolls to spread pro-Clinton ideologies on the Internet.
    http://observer.com/2016/08/dc-leak-...ing-elections/


    Divide and conquer is the oldest trick in the book and the Cabal is using this tactic to once again to trick the non-elite into doing their bidding
    Yes, you're exactly right. Except it's Clinton supporters like George Soros who are using this tactic. Read above.

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    Of course I would expect you, BS Bray, to comment. You are completely deluded and have an extreme case of cognitive dissonance. I have been done with this forum for a while. Most people here are awake and aware. You, however are neither. You abuse your role as moderator and hover like a vulture ready to attack.

    I really don't care if I am kicked off of this forum.

    For a little dose of reality, of what actually goes on at Trump rallies, behold ...


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    Despite the vitriol from certain members, Bsray, you are a very good moderator and contribute greatly to the forum with your posts. Thank you. I think it was Jimmer who spoke of not responding to a poster known for their hate. I would expect that it would take far more than that to expel someone from this forum. Ignoring is a far worse fate for those types. I will take my own advice and put someone on that list. The only one on this forum.
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    Quote Originally posted by lift the veil View Post
    Of course I would expect you, BS Bray, to comment. You are completely deluded and have an extreme case of cognitive dissonance. I have been done with this forum for a while. Most people here are awake and aware. You, however are neither. You abuse your role as moderator and hover like a vulture ready to attack.
    Sure. I haven't said or done anything to you that any other member couldn't also say or do. So I don't know where you're coming from with this moderator abuse stuff. I can't even remember the last time I moderated someone's post on here.

    You can call me whatever you like but I'm not offended. I post my opinions (which happen to be supported by facts in the case above) and you get all offended and self-righteous. What's up with that? I don't think being spiritually awakened has anything to do with being uber sensitive.

    I notice you didn't have anything to say about Soros funding BLM and support Hillary either. I guess the easy way out of that one was just to attack me personally instead. How do you reconcile that with being "awake and aware"? I'm seeing a disconnect there.

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