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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAPretender View Post
    So true, perhaps it is time to get a grip. But really, it can only go uphill from here. I suspect Trump IS the focus of the great 'awakening'. Most Americans by the time all is said and done, will be nodding and shaking their heads with a heartfelt NEVER AGAIN! If, in fact, there is any hope for any of us.
    I'm not so sure of that. Remember George W. Bush? If ever there had been a president in Acronymian history who could have been enough of a wake-up call for most Acronymians, or even for the world at large, then it would have been him.

    But that didn't happen either, did it? The guy invaded not one but two sovereign nations, and every western nation supported him in that by sending in their own military.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    how depressing...very good point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAPretender View Post
    So true, perhaps it is time to get a grip. But really, it can only go uphill from here. I suspect Trump IS the focus of the great 'awakening'. Most Americans by the time all is said and done, will be nodding and shaking their heads with a heartfelt NEVER AGAIN! If, in fact, there is any hope for any of us.
    Hope was the last woe in Pandora's box. It is intention without a plan and therefore impotent as a strategy or tactic.

    Any 'hope' for us will have to come from us. So, what our intentions are, with planning/strategy, will largely decide our futures. Gooberments are at their best when they effectively implant the idea that remedies will come from them and we can can just 'hope' for better outcomes.
    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" -- Voltaire

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    well yes, that was implicit in my post, hope is about us and what we wish for ourselves. If we don't recognize the higher good then we as individuals have obviated the positive future that we have access to if our motivations are properly oriented.

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    It's only going to get more "interesting" in the near future. A big drama is about to play itself out... United States of America is the center stage.

    Enjoy the show folks.

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    My theory is that different factions of the elite are at war with each other right now. The substrate is shifting and tremors are being felt in Hollywood (starting with Weinstein and progressing through Corey Feldman with emphasis on pedophiles in power. That will likely be more or less confined to the entertainment industry). The elite neo-cons, far from being innocent themselves, will likely be spared as Hollywood is almost purely limo-liberal.

    The timing is suspicious. It is a a great effort but the impetus behind it shadowy and self serving.

    Theocratic control could establish itself around 'cleaning up the epidemic of immorality' Unfortunately, at the same time, it will require people give up more and more freedom and the rule of law could be compromised under a rubric of 'emergency measures.'

    What we are witnessing now is a warm up. The U.S. incarcerates minorities, in disproportionate numbers and unfairly, in an attempt to control. This will be expanded to include anybody of any colour who represents any kind of threat. And being a 'conspiracy theorist,' might get you house arrest and an enforced regime of anti-psychotic meds.

    Those who believe we can meditate our way out of the mess, are sorely mistaken. It's like praying while psychopaths in charge are preying! You have to develop a plan for a worst case scenario.

    Mine was leaving the country over a decade ago!

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    In order to understand the cyclical nature of time, one has to study astrological patterns.

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    I have 2 theories on observation. One being along the line of others, saying that there is a bit of a jostle going on and we are seeing signs of it in the snippets of news related.
    The other theory is the devils advocate type counter theory where a psyop is underway making it appear as if all the crime and corruption and sinister accomplices are being routed out, giving a good show of it, but it is all just another hijack of the script and is organised and controlled in order to wrestle the power from themselves back into their own hands. Meanwhile getting all the expectant crowds to start celebrating early and signing up with the new mob.

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    One thought I've always 'entertained' in terms of sexual behavior is that when a practice hits that tipping point percentage of practitioners, can it really be considered aberrant?

    Women can be and are every bit as abusive as males but as one would expect the manifestation takes on a different character. Women CAN be masters of psycho-sexual abuse. Researchers Harville Hendrix and his wife, Helen Hunt have pointed out that to only view the problem of relationship abuse as a male issue will prevent the situation from ever being properly addressed.

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    This is eggyakely the can of worms I like to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAPretender View Post
    One thought I've always 'entertained' in terms of sexual behavior is that when a practice hits that tipping point percentage of practitioners, can it really be considered aberrant?

    Women can be and are every bit as abusive as males but as one would expect the manifestation takes on a different character. Women CAN be masters of psycho-sexual abuse. Researchers Harville Hendrix and his wife, Helen Hunt have pointed out that to only view the problem of relationship abuse as a male issue will prevent the situation from ever being properly addressed.
    Good question if one dabbles in sophistry. Those focused on gnosis of self will know that certain behaviors are bad for social cohesion and maintaining energetic states conducive to higher consciousness. Relativism and concepts that deviance of a species has a democratic nature to it, is strange to me.
    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" -- Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAPretender View Post
    One thought I've always 'entertained' in terms of sexual behavior is that when a practice hits that tipping point percentage of practitioners, can it really be considered aberrant?

    Women can be and are every bit as abusive as males but as one would expect the manifestation takes on a different character. Women CAN be masters of psycho-sexual abuse. Researchers Harville Hendrix and his wife, Helen Hunt have pointed out that to only view the problem of relationship abuse as a male issue will prevent the situation from ever being properly addressed.
    Agree. Women who allow themselves to be abused in a casting couch quest for fame, are complicit in their own abuse. I do understand how they feel and why they do what they do and how it shouldn't be that way though. Nobody should feel their future career in any field is predicated on sleeping with some creep or having to shut up about actual rape.

    Women who go on a date, are date raped and then claim, "he did it the next time we dated, too," leave me shaking my head. This doesn't even make the low bar criteria for 'damsel in distress.'

    And as far as mental cruelty goes...if you have ever been a victim, as I have, it goes way way beyond the damage that can be inflicted by physical abuse. And neither gender has a monopoly on this practice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by modwiz View Post
    Good question if one dabbles in sophistry. Those focused on gnosis of self will know that certain behaviors are bad for social cohesion and maintaining energetic states conducive to higher consciousness. Relativism and concepts that deviance of a species has a democratic nature to it, is strange to me.
    that's fair, which is why I asked the question. But I really meant it more as a metaphorical or even satirical question. We need not 'exaggerate' realities.

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