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    You really have not been seeing, USA died, Depression and financial collapse already happened, financial reset world wide just happened, USA breathing again, more flipped, more awoke, many left, many arrived.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    You really have not been seeing, USA died, Depression and financial collapse already happened, financial reset world wide just happened, USA breathing again, more flipped, more awoke, many left, many arrived.
    In a way, yes, but this also happened during the Great Depression and the US bounced back quite nicely from that. It took a decade and a world war, but the US reached the peak of its power in the late 1940s, when the rest of the world lay in ruins and the USA made up half of the world economy.

    BTW financial collapse has not happened yet, but there is a chance it could happen any day now. Or, it won't happen for another decade. Nobody can accurately predict these things. You know when financial collapse happened, once you see hundred-dollar bills being blown about by the wind, nobody bothering to pick them up, because they're so worthless. I saw this with my own eyes in Poland in the nineties. A hundred-Zloty bill was worth about 1 US cent and was just lying there on the streets or being blown about.

    John Williams from Shadowstats for instance has been predicting imminent financial collapse and hyperinflation in the US since at least 2005. Hasn't happened yet and he is a very smart and respected economist who tracks the US economy's real numbers, without the distortions the US government puts on them.

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    I would have picked them up, just in case...

    I think the world will continue to trudge along, until something breaks it to an unfixable state...We're getting there...and it is a sorrowful mess...something will give...I hope that it is the concept that money is the center of the Universe.
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    At 1:03:10 during the Q&A Chris is asked about resistance and whether it will always be necessary. He gives a substantive answer telling a personal story followed by some stories of folks in different parts of the world who resisted and how they've been remembered as sources of strength.

    It's well worth a listen whether or not one has listened to the presentation.

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    Trump's new campaign slogan is "Keep America Great". Really, has it been great so far? At least MAGA sounded better.

    It's true that none of us know for how long this broken system will continue to go on, but a collapse will not be a surprise to anyone.

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    You are not joking, have learnt this slowly, you believe that everything or mostly with the world was okay, Trump came along and oh no look what happened.

    Even as it is becoming clear about CV19 and negtrids involvement, only the wise and good hearted change books as self obvious takes over, nah the red pill as choice not needed now, just eyes seeing.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    You are not joking, have learnt this slowly, you believe that everything or mostly with the world was okay, Trump came along and oh no look what happened.
    I've never said that. The world was not okay before Trump, but the way he handles things is just beyond incompetent.

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    Who is pointing for you ? who are you listening to ?, why would God do such silliness?, Why are you angry about this ?.

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    I wish I could understand you Vern, but perhaps we should just agree to disagree.

    You can have your messiah and believe whatever you want to believe. Enjoy the blue pill.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    But, the question is, if the American Empire ends, what will take its place?
    A New World Odor.

    No, seriously, I think the EU ─ or what's left of it ─ is too enamored with the USA to allow the USA to vanish as a superpower. They all follow the US's cultural lead. Anything that becomes mainstream in the US will also become mainstream in Europe within the next five years.

    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    There is no answer to that question, none of the supposed alternatives are even remotely convincing. Russia is a joke and China is a paper tiger, led by communists who are bound to muck it up eventually.
    China isn't even really communist anymore. It's a dictatorship, yes, but there are too many oligarchs in China already to still be able to speak of communism.

    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    The EU doesn't even exist any more, except on paper and Brazil is literally a Banana Republic. India is a chaotic mess. No country has anywhere near the economic, cultural and military power and dominance that the US currently enjoys. So, the US will probably be propped up by the international system for a while longer and supported by other powers, simply for lack of a better alternative.
    Yes, exactly. The US is already controlling the world's economy ─ the primary international currency is still the US Dollar.

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    Trump is probably going away early next year, with the economy in the toilet, it is unlikely that he will win the 4 midwestern swing states that won him the election last time, by a very narrow margin.
    I wouldn't be too sure of that. He has a very fanatic following, and the QAnonsense™ idiots are playing a major role in that.

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    I doubt that Joe Buythem will be much better, but I don't think he will end up being the democratic candidate, or if elected, a president for very long. He is pretty much gone in the head now and on his last legs as a human being on this earth.
    Oh, but he will be the Democratic candidate. That was already clear from the beginning. The DNC is still utterly corrupt and even with Trump in the White House, the Democrats still haven't learned their lesson. They're still hoping that Trump is just a bad dream and that come November 2020, they'll be able to return to their status quo of corporate globalism and thought policing.

    Joe Biden is the kind of guy who represents those ideals, and so they had already decided from the get-go that he was to be the Democratic nominee for the 2020 elections. Besides, they can't have a socialist like Bernie Sanders for president of the USA now, can they? That would be so un-American. Joseph McCarthy would roll in his grave!

    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    There you go again, you cannot see it though, only interest I had in Trump pre 2015 was when he got taken down money wise and then when all appeared lost, he was okay again and lots of money etc, that memory began this thread, as I felt he had been tapped on the shoulder for something, something far bigger than himself, so when he crushed his way to election final, and won which was impossible as was rigged imo, so somehow the rigging got rigged imo and those that shoulder tapped him said imo play ball Donald while we sort stuff, will keep you up to date. To think that Trump is dumb or being dumb all the time is 24/7 4 year drumbeat to those who will listen and that group is getting smaller fast, no red pills needed now as self obvious.

    Hi Aragorn, this reply is to the messiah namer Wind not yourself, just saw you posted after Wind.

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    I'll tell you who 'seems' to be a really solid human...Governor Cuomo, at least he is a master of smashing to bits right-wing propaganda...I'm impressed...I hate to admit it, but I'm actually impressed with the person, not the politician. He doesn't exactly come from humble beginnings, though. Which makes him suspect as a 'true' humanitarian but he got game! He does have a background of working pretty hard for the down and out...
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    China has Oligarchs. It's gone the way of Russia.


    Who is pointing for you ? who are you listening to ?, why would God do such silliness?, Why are you angry about this ?.
    Spoken like someone who looks to others to find their own positions. Was that your intention, Aianawa?



    I heard of Trump long ago. I had the benefit of intelligent Republican parents who saw him for what he was. I knew the rot in his core before he ever became a nominee. And he tried many times to run for President. This wasn't the first.

    It seems like some folks still don't really know the history of the man.

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    I think China is the only true contender to US, they are a rising superpower. However, they can't hold a candle to the US military force.

    They might have the manpower to outrun US forces, but at what cost one might ask. There are less bloody was of conquering.

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    You also not joking, amazing indeed, this person decided to put cv'd people into rest homes, what could go wrong ?, people said no so he forced this, hero or zero ?



    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    I'll tell you who 'seems' to be a really solid human...Governor Cuomo, at least he is a master of smashing to bits right-wing propaganda...I'm impressed...I hate to admit it, but I'm actually impressed with the person, not the politician. He doesn't exactly come from humble beginnings, though. Which makes him suspect as a 'true' humanitarian but he got game! He does have a background of working pretty hard for the down and out...

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