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    Quote Originally posted by blufire View Post
    My measly 2 cents:

    Is Trump an illusion? Of course and a very well orchestrated illusion that appears to be unfolding perfectly.

    Has Trump been bought: No I don’t feel he has been bought but I do feel he has gone through an initiation. The same initiation Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Jobs, and Elon Musk among others have gone through.

    Do I think Trump will be elected president? Yes I do and all the hoopla surrounding him and his campaign has been carefully crafted and implemented . . . . . all of it has a purpose and will be executed to its fullest after he is put into office. Many seeds have been planted in the minds of Americans and the rest of the world and are being meticulously cultivated.

    For the New World Order or government or whatever it will be called to be fully put into place all religion, cultures, financial systems, governing systems (among a few things) have to be ended or nullified or in the least homogenized before the “New System” can be fully realized and executed.

    People like Trump and those I named above are the very ones that have been ‘initiated’ and have fully accepted what our global future will be and are fully dedicated to what their part in it is.

    Aianawa, I mean no disrespect but I have become amused when people use the term tptW (the powers that were) or even tptb (the powers that be). Neither term in no way describes what the ‘alternative media’ views as the people in control and to blithely say that this power structure is no longer ‘in power’ is very naïve to say the least.

    The NWO or whatever it will be called will continue to be put into place and ultimately I don’t think this will be a negative/bad thing . . . . . it is the getting there that will be extremely difficult.
    Your amusement at the use of tptW shows your imo misunderstanding or at least ignorance as such of the workings of the noospere or collective mind.

    As far as power stuctures go, yourself first ( know thyself ) to know tptW or TPTb, imo.

    Lol, imo , also, the but after disrespect is telling.

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    Hi bsbray,

    Just had to respond :-)....................know thy self comes to mind here, IMHO.

    Often we are reacting emotionally to what our ego percieves/thinks, thus these feelings are real but have little insight, as they are exercising ego direction and often not rational. This results in the lack of getting past one's own ego/needs to the real Heart of the matter..................

    When you "truly know yourself right down to your most intricate feelings", it is much easier to trust your feelings as they are very discernable when it comes to identifying the gut/heart or ego response.



    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    I don't know how you feel about this, Aianawa, but maybe it's something to think about:



    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ings-maybe-not


    When it comes to really complicated stuff with lots of different pieces of information to take into account and consider, like gathering military intelligence or working a math problem, I wonder if just using our feelings is really that great of a way for getting the right answers.


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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Your amusement at the use of tptW shows your imo misunderstanding or at least ignorance as such of the workings of the noospere or collective mind.

    As far as power stuctures go, yourself first ( know thyself ) to know tptW or TPTb, imo.

    Lol, imo , also, the but after disrespect is telling.

    Is it a TRUE collective or hive mind? Or is it wishful thinking? Or even the vague deep down subconscious thought “I am powerless so I choose to ignore the truth and pretend I can make it go away” or the very least deceive myself?

    In order for a hive or collective mind to be successful it has to first start with an accurate basis and foundation to work from or for the ‘collective minds’ to form around. An example is when a worker bee discovers a food source and that food source location is transmitted to the entire hive. The food source is an actual true physical thing that the hive then acts upon. If a worker bee were to transmit a food source that doesn’t actually exist or that is maybe harmful to the hive then a negative hurtful result happens and is perpetuated.

    The concept and meme of TPTB or TPTW formed less than 5 years ago in the alternative media communities and have taken hold as an actual true reality and ‘thing’ . . . . . ask anyone who or what these ‘powers are or were’ and you will get a different answer.

    So what would be the result of a collective or hive mind concentrating on something that doesn’t exist or the very least the ‘minds’ involved in the collective thought are confused on what they are concentrating on or trying to accomplish or create?

    Power structures? I am not concerned about this supposed ‘powers that be or were’ power structure that the alternative media has conjured up over the past few years because that power structure only exists in the minds of a few people in the alternative media that created it and are perpetuating it.

    Think back my friends were this meme came from and what it has caused within the alternative media communities. . . . .


    Of course, as always, the above is only my measly opinion for what it may be worth . . . . or not.

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    :unity:LOL , maybe we are both not as wise and intellygent as we believe we are. I love your way of expressing your perception, I am sorry I do not understand your beliefs, please forgive me if I appear to or to yourself, are being negative towards you, thanks for being a mirror for me.

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    Read this somewhere recently, who knew of either Clinton or Obama before they went for and became presidents ?.

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    bluefire, I'm curious how the NWO comes about if we're going through the 6th extinction. How is there an infrastructure or economy to span the globe when there's such upheaval? Is it being put underground? Is the plan to resurface when feasible and then take over the surface world again? And would that involve removing/destroying/taking control of the communities of survivors they find on the surface when they reemerge?

    I'm not expecting you to have all the answers but I'm interested in your opinions as you've clearly thought this through.

    Do they have some sort of Trump card? ( can't help myself)

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    Imo as of now, Trump is part of the well organised set up, imo certain, just in what way set up and organised ?. We are all wise enough when it comes to Hillary, what about this Berns chap then ?.

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    Berns, the socialist who's not really very socialist. I'm pretty sure he ran with that label to get the jump, politically, on republicans who constantly lambast democrats for being socialist. Were you aware of the efforts a few years ago, on the House Floor, when the republicans were trying to pass legislation to force the Democrat Party to change its name, adding the word Socialist?

    Bernie certainly has sincerity. And tenacity.

    But there's the whole issue of delegates... And it's an issue for both sides. I keep telling people we need a real FEC that's not run by the two parties. I don't get enthusiastic responses.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    bluefire, I'm curious how the NWO comes about if we're going through the 6th extinction. How is there an infrastructure or economy to span the globe when there's such upheaval? Is it being put underground? Is the plan to resurface when feasible and then take over the surface world again? And would that involve removing/destroying/taking control of the communities of survivors they find on the surface when they reemerge?

    I'm not expecting you to have all the answers but I'm interested in your opinions as you've clearly thought this through.

    Do they have some sort of Trump card? ( can't help myself)
    Take into consideration that going through this 6th Extinction and global climate change will take many more generations.

    Remember that planet wide extinctions come in many forms. Past extinctions came from instantaneous events such as being impacted by asteroids/meteorites (dinosaurs is example). Others are painfully slow and take many generations . . . . . like this cyclical climate change caused by events in our solar system . . . . this cyclical event is fully documented by our ancient ancestors and by current scientific research.

    Globalization will be fully implemented in the next 25+/- years. We, as a planet need, to be unified to be able to move forward into the future and into space travel and exploration of our solar system. I now understand that this is vital for our planet and for us to ‘make it this time’ through this 6th extinction.

    The ‘global leaders’ are taking full advantage of the upheaval and turmoil this climate change is and will cause to have the global government unification in place. I feel this is what the alternative media communities are responding to with fear and uncertainty.

    They also are trying to prepare for every contingency the climate change will cause. (hence gmo food and geoengineering).

    Are there underground bases? You betcha. But not for just a few or the cabal or the supposed ‘powers that be’. If these underground bases have to be used they will be filled with people that are most able to successfully continue humanity. Will there be people in those bases whose only criteria is that they are wealthy or of certain families . . . . of course . . . because after all we are ‘human’.
    Keep in mind (I am not excusing them) that without these peoples extreme wealth we would not be able to survive this . . . . we would not have the technology . . . . . there would be no underground bases . . . we would not be able to move forward into space travel and exploration.

    And most importantly and vital so we are not knocked back into the Stone Age and have to begin all over again. These bases are prepared with everything needed (especially technology) to be able for life (as we currently know it) to continue once our planet calms back down.

    And in keeping with the theme of this thread. Trump is absolutely indoctrinated into this ‘agenda’. Just think of the instability his presidency will cause globally. Instability and disruption is paramount in any movement and in war. Read Sun Tzu’s “The Art of War”

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    Food for thought. Thanks blufire.

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    why is trump surging?
    it could be that americans have been watching his opposition, like these kids.
    (lots of profanity warning)

    change is coming.


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    Where's Hillary? Did they repeat this on Fox ad nauseam? Or is it all over the not-really-so-liberal media?

    I hope his popularity isn't surging because of this type of stuff. If that's what's driving it then I'm concerned. I hope it's something more substantial and related to ways he can elevate America and Americans. All of them. There's only 350 million of us...

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    If the elections are pre result/s organised, choice with no choice, in other words the usual, which from observation past wise appears true, this is all a big circus. Stepping back from it if one is an American and not becoming part of the act, may allow more clarity.

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    Elections are all an illusion.

    Is there truly anyone out there that believes that the general population of ANY country is going to be allowed to put who they want in office . . . and especially the office of president?

    Seriously folks . . . . . don’t be so naïve. “Elections” give the general population a false sense of control of their own lives and destiny.

    With the invention of electronic polling booths it just made the process easier to rig final results.

    Trump will be our next president. Obama has successfully took America to the next step of destabilizing our country . . . . as well as the presidents before him. Look back and really look at what each president ‘did’.

    Trump will rapidly take us to the next level that lead to a global government. . . . not the final step but he will boost it greatly.

    There is no stopping this. Wake up people.

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    Like how this VT article indicates what is probable, mmmmm most likely >

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/05...state-theatre/

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