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    lol, Fred has a good center, that's why I like him...but, he does stir the pot. People like drama, I would be a sorry liar if I claimed I didn't.
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    I'm no innocent. It was Corey's drama that led me here.

    And so he's done at least one good thing as far as I'm concerned, he led me to TOT. The rest is chicken feathers.

    I do like the idea of the spheres. But the sphere-being thing lost me after a bit. I like sci fi and I don't need Corey to find it.

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    lol...yeah, people have trouble telling the difference between science fact and science fantasy...
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    lol...yeah, people have trouble telling the difference between science fact and science fantasy...
    If you substitute the word "people" in the above sentence by "Corey", then you can leave out the word "science" in both instances where you used them. Corey Goode cannot tell truth from fantasy, and that's a given. But what makes things even worse is that he's surrounded by people who feed into his fantasy because his delusions will in turn feed back into their own obsessions and/or agendas.
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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    It's weird to see you use so many names for folks, Christopher, and yet you say that I was name-calling. Are you actually expressing opinions or just looking for reactions? You seem a bit like the type who likes to stir the pot and create drama.
    Fred likes you. He's also a pot-stirrer.

    I mix with people including experts and specialists who have been dealing in these areas for decades .
    If you know your job and are professional , it does not take long before you see these self appointed whistleblowers and information providers for what they really are ( 95+% ? ) . You get to the stage where you can smell the BS before they start making simple time line and narrative errors
    They nearly all fall into the mix of : --
    Hoaxers out to make money , hoaxers who are desperate for attention and those who have personality/ medical problems of one sort or another .
    They become cartoon characters and mainly because that is exactly what they are .
    Cartoon characters take on cartoon personalities , and more and more they become less and less like ordinary people . So it is hardly surprising when someone like Corey Goode becomes Story Bad to those who are almost obliged to waste time being involved with him , even peripherally .
    But there is a huge difference between giving public characters cartoon type names and doing the same for people you meet in comparatively private circumstances .

    Frankly most of the public figures are so boring and devastatingly low IQ that you need to inject some life and humour into invariably otherwise dead and boring scenarios .

    The Donald does it all the time in the political world and often with devastating accuracy and some wit ----- Warren , Schiff and Waters spring to mind . I think he perfectly understands that the overall situation is so grave that matters need turning into a funny game or else you would slit your own throat or have to become a serial killer . Rodent exterminator in more polite circles .

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Fred likes you.
    Well, that was until the following comment began to quickly change my mind just two days later:

    Quote Originally posted by Christopher View Post
    And of course I also still occasionally get 'it ' wrong . Last time was 1983 and it still rankles . :roll eyes:


    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    You seem a bit like the type who likes to stir the pot and create drama.
    Fred likes you. He's also a pot-stirrer.
    It's a shame you weigh our contributions here as comparable.
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    I didn't weigh your contributions at all, Fred. I have not weighed a single post of yours against one of his. I do wish you'd be more careful that way.

    The only comparison I made was in being pot-stirrers. You seem to like being that, Fred. You've mentioned it more than once.

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    "The Donald does it all the time in the political world and often with devastating accuracy and some wit ----- Warren , Schiff and Waters spring to mind . I think he perfectly understands that the overall situation is so grave that matters need turning into a funny game or else you would slit your own throat or have to become a serial killer . Rodent exterminator in more polite circles."

    When I see things like this it renders me speechless. I'm very serious. Some things are so Bizarro World that they can't be addressed without a complete history of psychology, sociology, anthropology, philosophy, and whatever else on God's green Gaia that promotes intuition and understanding.
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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    The only comparison I made was in being pot-stirrers. You seem to like being that, Fred.
    Thank you for confirming my observation of the obvious amidst your flat denial of doing so. I will now refrain from further comment on this as to not create any more unnecessary drama. If you want to pin this as running away from the conversation again, as in the old Israel thread with Tarka, have at it.

    So then, back to Captain Chaos.
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    And you like to read into what I say, Fred. Thanks for confirming that.

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    omigoodness...you and Fred...I don't see you two that far apart...just on opposite sides of the center...both of you want to be fair, I think. However, if someone is being objective then they have to admit that the right wing REALLY IS a montage of Who's Who of horrible human beings. It is just the simple plain truth.
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    omigoodness...you and Fred...I don't see you two that far apart...just on opposite sides of the center...both of you want to be fair, I think. However, if someone is being objective then they have to admit that the right wing REALLY IS a montage of Who's Who of horrible human beings. It is just the simple plain truth.
    In all fairness, when it comes to the left wing in most western countries, the same is true. Only very few of those who proclaim to be progressive or socialist truly are progressive or socialist. Because when push comes to shove, then they've all been infected by the same virus as the right wing, i.e. a manifestation of ego, narcissism and opportunism. In the USA concretely, it doesn't matter whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, because although their methods differ, their intended goals are the same: having the USA, its dumbed-down consumerist culture and its petro-dollar rule the entire planet, and everyone who refuses to bow down before the mighty eagle gets the label "a threat to national security" stuck to them.

    People should really stop looking upon these politicians as some kind of Messiah figures who know better than them. Politicians are not gods ─ even though they very much like to believe they are ─ but fallible human beings. Just because they wear fancy suits and get their faces on TV doesn't mean that they would be intelligent, well educated, well informed or well-intending ─ and for that matter, that goes for all other celebrities as well. Donald J. Trump and George W. Bush before him are the prime examples of how even an idiot can get to become president of a country.

    And it's not just in the USA that this applies. Just look at Jacob Zuma in South Africa, or Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe. Or if you want an extreme example, look at how almost the whole of Germany believed in Adolf Hitler back in the 1930s, notwithstanding the fact that Hitler was a neurotic and psychotic narcissist. Virtually no dictator in history has ever risen to power without having the support of at least some part of the population. Mussolini, Franco, Mao, Pol Pot, Pinochet, Batista: they all had a significant part of the population supporting them, because people were either blinded or because not every human being on this planet has the best of intentions ─ the white-supremacists, the banks and the military-industrial complex certainly don't.

    And it all goes back to ancient times, and kings and queens. Royals were considered the emissaries on Earth of whatever godhead was en vogue, and presidents are only a substitute for those same royals. In fact, with career politicians, the spectrum has even broadened, because now people simply regard all politicians as worthy of surrendering their sovereignty to. And with the partisan system, there's a god available for every person in society. There are socialist gods, neo-liberal gods, nationalist gods, environmentalist gods, white-supremacy gods, and so on.

    Politics is a side show. Always has been, and always will be. You might as well go to the zoo and watch monkeys hurl feces at each other. But at least the monkeys have the excuse that they're not supposed to know any better. Humans are exempt from that excuse, and especially so when they assume the arrogance to pretend that they would be fit for ruling over their fellow human beings.
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    Can't argue with that but let me put my 'spin' on it.

    The true powers are 'conservative'. Conservative being a polite euphemism for 'it's all about me'.
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Can't argue with that but let me put my 'spin' on it.

    The true powers are 'conservative'. Conservative being a polite euphemism for 'it's all about me'.
    Yes, that's what it all boils down to.
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