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    Each to their own imo, maybe with the Q propaganda person banned, we can Q Park again ?.

    11.11 th post, nice,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS7sNqKacfE

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    I watch Q you tubes pretty regularly just to see what outrageous lengths the spokes will go to make sense of the whole bit of inane nonsense. I mean those folks REALLLY THINK WE ARE DUMB? And not just dumb, nearly if not totally out of our minds. Holy Sheeiittt, this stuff is way beyond ridiculous. As Dark Helmut said, "we are way beyond light speed, we are at ludicrous speed!" I mean my gawd, ... really?!
    "We are one thought away from changing the world!"

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    Things like this, we never expected to hear, yes ? >


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI7NdDacqZ8


    The 19 minute mark especially imo

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    Lies Aianawa. The numbers on immigration cost versus benefit came in along time ago. Undocumenteds pay in more than they take out. The disconnect is that the money flows to the Federal level but the expenses are at the state level. That's the problem. Most arguments surrounding that issue are born in ignorance and willful lying (propaganda).

    Benevolent logic dictates that investment in 3rd world countries can eventually ameliorate poverty and level the pressures to go elsewhere for a satisfying life. Trump is a complete idiot, Aianawa. Everything he says demonstrates that he is no more astute than the people that elected him. As someone remarked. Rubes and toothless...
    "We are one thought away from changing the world!"

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    This may be lies also, i dont know :


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    Regarding Trump's Tuesday night speech:

    People will bet on anything, and betting websites are always willing to accommodate those gamblers. Bookmaker.eu decided to offer up an interesting over/under bet on Tuesday night’s eight-minute...address by Donald Trump. According to BuzzFeed News, the gambling website gave odds of -145 to anyone betting that Trump would lie more than 3.5 times during his eight-minute address, and +115 if he lied less. In layman’s terms, if you took the over and bet $145, you could win $100. The website handicapped the odds this way because they underestimated how craven Donald Trump could be.

    Unfortunately for Bookmaker.eu, most of the people betting on last night’s level of honesty took the easy money bet, saying Trump would just dance around with his pants on fire for eight minutes. John Lester is an odds consultant for the site and told BuzzFeed, "It's a bad day for Truthiness and Bookmaker,” as the site will lose $276,424 in payouts.
    Oh, and it was also a schtick for fundraising. People were contacted before and after to give money for the wall, but the money actually goes to his re-election campaign, not a wall.

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    My previous job was with an online bookmaker. What they lost in payouts, they will gain back manifold in publicity and new member registrations. A few hundred thousand is nothing for a reasonably sized bookmaker. Also, most people will not withdraw their winnings, they'll 'invest' it back into other bets, hoping to increase their winnings. Of course most will lose it eventually, so that payout number is meaningless in itself. That's how the industry works. Keep them playing and betting and eventually they'll always lose.

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    Trump back in 2004.


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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Trump back in 2004.


    He probably didn't realize that there were Mexicans listening.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Trump back in 2004.

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    Posting this as I thought it captured my sentiments.

    Brandon Smith: Trump Is A Pied Piper For The New World Order Agenda
    by Tyler Durden
    Fri, 01/04/2019 - 23:05

    In my last article, 'The Fed Is A Suicide Bomber With A Deeper Agenda', I explored and dismantled recent propaganda surrounding the Federal Reserve's tightening actions, including the propaganda that Jerome Powell is some kind of rogue central banker who is rebalancing the system for the good of the nation. To summarize the points made in that article:

    The Fed deliberately created the "Everything Bubble" so that it could be deliberately imploded at the proper time - in other words, the crash we have been witnessing so far during the final quarter of 2018 and continuing into 2019 is a controlled demolition of the economy. Jerome Powell is not some "rebel" going against the easy money dictates of the Fed. Jerome Powell is playing the role that has been given to him. Ben Bernanke and Janet Yellen's job was to inflate the bubble. Jerome Powell's job is to crash the bubble.

    This is a tactic used by the Fed and the globalists that run it for over 100 years - conjure a debt bubble, deflate the debt bubble, cause a crisis, siphon up hard assets for pennies on the dollar, use the panic to gain more power and centralization, introduce new control measures while everyone is distracted, rinse, repeat.

    This process of controlled demolition needs a considerable distraction so that the central banks and the globalists ultimately avoid blame for the painful consequences of the event.

    Enter Donald Trump and the false Trump vs. Globalist paradigm.

    As I mentioned last week, the Fed is only one side of the equation for the crash; Trump is the other side.

    Confidence games are highly varied affairs. They can be extremely simple and often obvious to everyone but the most inept and unobservant, or, they can be highly complex with many moving parts of deceit combined into a single elaborate con-machine. It is important to understand that confidence games are not just a means to steal money or valuables from unwitting people; they are also a vital part of economic manipulation, government dominance, and warfare in general. Almost all mainstream economic “authorities,” politicians, military tacticians and covert operatives are con men in one way or another.

    With the exception of military tacticians acting in defense against an aggressor, con men are predominantly sociopaths. In order to carry out a “grift” against innocent people, an extreme lack of empathy is required. Understanding the mind and motivations of sociopaths and narcissistic sociopaths makes it possible to identify them faster and allows us to see their con games ahead of time.

    In terms of social control, elitist con men are highly preoccupied with preventing spontaneous organization of rebellion. But this does not always involve the outright crushing of dissent. Instead, the elites prefer to use co-option and misdirection (con games) to lure rebellious movements to focus on the wrong enemy, or to trust the wrong leadership.

    I am often reminded of the infiltration of the Tea Party movement by neo-conservatives in the years after the 2008 election. Neo-con-men exploited the desire among Tea Party activists for mainstream legitimacy and more widespread media coverage. They gave the activists what they wanted, by injecting their own political puppets into the movement. It did not take long for the Tea Party to abandon its initial roots in individual sovereignty and the Ron Paul campaign and adopt a decidedly statist tone. The smart people left the movement early and went on to launch their own efforts, but the goal of the establishment had been accomplished — the grass roots organized threat of the Tea Party was no more.

    That said, the principles of conservative economics, small government and personal liberty remain entrenched in the American psyche and continue to grow. These ideals have a life of their own, and almost seem to act autonomously at times from any particular group or leader.

    The single most important dynamo behind the rise of sovereignty activism has actually been the liberty media, or what some might call the “alternative media.” This group of people has been working tirelessly for years to inform the masses on the REAL news and data behind global events. Over time we have earned the trust of millions based on honest reporting and accurate predictions. It was only a matter of time before the establishment attempted to co-opt us as well…

    The downfall of the Tea Party was a lack of cohesive leadership. There was no one there to put a stop to the neo-con infiltration. There was no one in a strong enough position to vet incoming influencers and prevent poison pills from entering the bloodstream of the movement. The problem with leadership, though, is that it denotes centralization and a bottlenecking of decisions and action. It’s quite a quandary for advocates of decentralization.

    The most effective method for the establishment to sabotage a rebellion is to place one of their own puppets into a leadership position in that rebellion. This exploits the movement’s subconscious appetite for top down leadership. It neutralizes activists by tricking them into waiting for orders from on high instead of acting on their own individually. It makes a movement lazy and impotent.

    The con game of false leadership goes beyond this, though. A charismatic puppet leader can trick activists into following a path completely opposite of their foundational ideals. He can turn the movement into something they would have originally despised (like turning a limited government pro-sovereignty movement into a big government pro-state cult). He can also take actions which are self-destructive, thereby making the movement appear insane or foolhardy by proxy.

    I warned of this potential dynamic with Donald Trump long before the 2016 election. In fact, I predicted that Donald Trump would win the election based on the premise that the globalists were planning a grand con; to not only use Trump as a scapegoat for the crash of the “everything bubble” they had been inflating for the past 10 years, but to also use him as a pied piper to lure conservative movements into individual inaction, as well as being named as co-conspirators in the economic collapse that Trump was about to be involved in.

    In my article ‘Clinton vs. Trump And The Co-Option Of The Liberty Movement,’ published in September 2016, I noted:

    “To summarize, the elites need a patsy for the breakdown of the financial system they have engineered. That patsy will not be Trump per se, but conservatives in general. Whether Donald Trump is aware of this program or not, I do not know. I have no hard evidence indicating that Trump is anti-constitution; then again, I don’t have much evidence indicating he is pro-constitution. All I have at present to go by is his rhetoric, and rhetoric counts for nothing.

    What I do know is that triggering a fiscal crisis under the watch of Trump and blaming conservatives is far more useful to the elites than triggering a crisis under Clinton and risk blame falling on international banking syndicates.”

    The crash has now begun in the final quarter of 2018, with housing markets, auto markets and credit markets in steep decline, as well as stock markets trending into bear territory. In the same article I also stated:

    “I believe Clinton is meant to lose. If this is the case and Trump is inaugurated in January of next year, the liberty movement needs to ask itself if Trump is truly an obstacle for the elites, or if he is an ally to the elites.

    The Left is already salivating over the possibility that the Trump campaign will devour the liberty movement and turn it into something unrecognizable. Just take a gander at this editorial from Bloomberg called ‘The Tea Party Meets Its Maker,’ which announces the death of the “Tea Party” at the hands of Trump…”

    After two years of witnessing Trump in action, it is clear to me that he is an active participant in the new world order agenda, and not just an unwitting patsy for the economic crisis.

    Trump started out his presidential campaign with two very important issues. First, he argued for the need to “drain the swamp” in Washington D.C.; which included a sharp criticism of Hillary Clinton’s ties to banking elites and globalists. Second, he criticized the fraudulent state of the U.S. economy, pointing out that the stock market was in a massive bubble created by the Federal Reserve using near zero interest rates.

    Trump’s first action upon entering the White House was to invite multiple “swamp creatures” into his cabinet, going against his core campaign promise. This was not all that surprising considering his past.

    Trump was saved in the 1990s by Rothchild banking agent Wilber Ross, who bailed him out of his debts tied up in his failing Taj Mahal casino. Wilber Ross is now Trump’s commerce secretary. I ask, who is Trump going to be loyal to? The American people, who can offer him nothing of consequence, or the Rothschilds, who saved his public image and his billion-dollar empire?

    Trump is also currently “advised” by the likes of Steven Mnuchin formerly of Goldman Sachs, Larry Kudlow formerly of the New York Fed, and John Bolton of the CFR, among others.

    Trump has since flip-flopped on his economic position. Instead of warning about the huge financial bubble the Fed had created, he adopted a Twitter campaign TAKING CREDIT for the bubble for the past two years.

    Some people will argue that Trump has placed blame on the Fed and exposed their operations, but this is theater based on selective observations. Trump continues to set himself up as the fulcrum or source of the current crash. Just this week his administration called the market decline a "little glitch" which would be solved once a trade deal with China was solidified. In other words, Trump is saying the trade war is the cause of the crash, not the Fed. Trump then at the same time blames the Fed.

    Confusing? Not really, when you understand that Trump is part of a grand con game.

    Continue herehttps://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...d-order-agenda

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    It is nice to understand, gives one peace as not knowing is for many, still in the future, a differing peace imo.

    The conviction of Mr Smith, who leaves no room for humanity/you/me/Trump/politics etc ever changing is good as he sure feels good about these views and is collecting more peoples of similar views, he will get many more imo as intuition is shifting gear, fools gold is Q, as Mr Smith is dollars till coins are worth more, as the deep state Tisa pleasured by power known n not unknown as is being presented by unknowns = who is Q, as I do not know, do you, I cannot prove who Q is or was, can you. Trump is going to keep doing what he has been doing as the msn n deep state will continue also, if they be the same page n con then imo 1987 Harmonic Convergence 11.11 window n Venus Transit 8 year 12.12 window plus 13.13 2012 21st 12th were all not so, that imo Tisa laughable but yip I could be incorrect n smiles win for me either either ways.

    11.22 post, Xlent

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    That was indeed interesting, lol hard to find high ground in the swamp.

    This is more Trumpish than Qish imo >

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XucT7z0z92I


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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    As a kid I remember hearing about the U.S. fighting a war in the Belgian Congo and was confused about the why of it. Somewhat later I saw an article about where Uranium reserves existed. I saw an asterisk smack dab on the Belgian Confo. It all clicked at that point. It was then that I realized that we live in a very strange world. A depraved world.

    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    That was indeed interesting, lol hard to find high ground in the swamp.

    This is more Trumpish than Qish imo >

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XucT7z0z92I

    Includes Paid Promotion...
    "We are one thought away from changing the world!"

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