I will always give credit where credit is due. On the face of it this is a most excellent bold and decisive move despite all squawking to the contrary.
I will always give credit where credit is due. On the face of it this is a most excellent bold and decisive move despite all squawking to the contrary.
The unexamined life is not worth living.
Socrates
The latest, the largest and the most discussed advance of Trump is not his own that's more than obvious, we see here a bigger game unfolding right before our eyes, the game that is orchestrated directly and quite deliberalty by "the elite" to push for the event which is meant to bring so called global resolution a change to the existing status quo by any means necessary be it war or major economical collapse, social unrest (Hi Yellow Vests) or all together. The whole game is about total slavery and destruction or total freedom if they fail. They are not backing down that's for sure it is a brief moment of calm before super storm. Everything goes as has been desribed by Albert Pike 1892.
“The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists (Israel and its influence on both the US and Russia polieces should be concerned) and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”
So damn prophetic isn't it? If it has been forseen so long ago yet Trump just makes steps which have already been planned to be made, isn't existing policy of Trump adminitstration taking us to a point when actual "prophecy" will be fulfilled in details as promissed - war, division and slavery for crazy handful? Very likely to be true, especially when there are so many signs to prove it.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKVUwOFozWs
A solution to a complex problem is always the simplest one. If everything is just filled with filth, corruption and lies and the world has just turned into a big madhouse is not telling truth a very profound act to change the situation? Sure it is, yet it does seem almost impossible for any politician to do that because this thing alone will not just expose the corrupted system but also his own cowardness, stupidity and fear... This is why this madness is still going on while the only few who responsible for it have not been mentioned by any of anti-establishment warriors. Is not this a funny thing when anti-establishment leaders of the mightiest countries of the world are afraid to even whisper about the very few who own literally almost every country around the world using them as pawns in their big game, the game which has been planned centuries ago?An only viable start to the real anti-establishment rebelion is an act of acknowledgement of their existence and their role in the world policies until it does not happen everything else is just rubbish, smoke screens with sole task to drag our attention away from the root of the problem.
Turia should now about the real masters of the US better than me so I will just put my 5 cents providing Russia as an example. For now almost 99% of the state properties (including military) and big companies directly or indiectly are owned by 3 major figures Jacob, Evelyn and Nathan Rothschilds. The very handful to rule the entire country! If you consider that then what is happening in Mid-East and with the US, Russia relationships makes more sense in comparisson with rubbish produced by alternative and MSM together on a daily basis. It is not about countries, it is not about leaders, it is all about the very few who are above Trump, Putin, Deep State, SSP etc. against millions if we are not going to face them and realize their real influence then there is not a shadow of doubt we would carry on with their game as before until it is over and none of us would be alive.
As global society we are sick we are almost on a brink of physical death, one step to the right or to the left and the whole thing is effectively over. Then the first step necessary to overcome the issue is to aknowledge the very fact of our sickness then we can workout ways of understanding and dealing with it. However we can go another way choosing to take some pills to make us feel better, we can even forget about disease for a while because of temporary healing effects provided by pills. Although there will be a time an inevitable moment when pills sieze to work what are we going to do then? Right, face the fact we are ill and our need in healing the only other option is death. Would you like to face your inner shite and clean it or live to fight another day by choosing take the pills which has already proven to be useless?
The world is shaking now, effects of pills (Trump, Putin,Xi Jinping, Macron and others) are weakening by day the question is will we face our true disease, the visious virus which has been trying to kill us for so long or going to carry on as weaken victim taking "prescripted" pills until we die?
P.S. When I talk about admitting of real masters like Rothschilds, Rockefellers and others I don't mean to purge (like mass arrests thing) them as the solution to the problems of the world it is ratner a first step on a way to global healing... We need to start with exposing of the real masters and proceed to understanding of the real scale of their influence on the global affairs and actual roots of their ideas. Only then we can heal divisions (left, right, centrist, progressive) in our society which in fact has been promoted by people mentioned earlier and can at last move together in cohesive and profound for every individual way.
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Unlike others, its good to see that a few can find their way out of Hotel California.Originally posted by Fred Steeves
The Middle East is just the tip of the iceberg.
As, Lt General 'Flynn knows where the bodies are buried.'
As indicated in the most recent Q drops...
Q Post # 2626....
Q Post # 2627....
Q Post # 2628....
Q Post # 2629....
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Flashback 2016: Secretary of State John Kerry Admits President Obama Intentionally Armed ISIS in Syria…The Syrian Backstory...
Posted on December 19, 2018
by sundance
CTH has some new readers, so against the backdrop of the UniParty in Washington DC jumping into action to criticize President Trump’s decision to withdraw from Syria; perhaps a little factual historic refresher is in order….
On September 30th 2016 the New York Times quietly released a leaked audio recording of Secretary John Kerry meeting with multiple factions associated within Syria.
The 40-minute discussion took place on the sidelines of a United Nations General Assembly in New York. The meeting took place at the Dutch Mission to the United Nations on Sept. 22nd 2016:
[…] Kerry’s off-record conversation was apparently with two dozen ‘Syrian civilians’, all from US backed opposition-linked NGO’s in education and medical groups supposedly working in ‘rebel-held’ (aka terrorist-held) areas in Syria.
This opposition conclave also included ‘rescue workers’ which can only be ambassadors from the White Helmets, a pseudo NGO which serves as Washington and London’s primary PR front in pursuit of a “No Fly Zone’ in Syria, and it’s being bankrolled by the US, UK, EU and other coalition states to the tune of well over $100 million (so far). (link)
When you listen to the audio recording (embedded below) it becomes immediately obvious what was going on in 2014, 2015 and 2016 as an outcome of policy from the White House. In addition, you discover why this jaw-dropping 2016 leak/story was buried by the U.S. media and how it connects to the prior 4 years of perplexing U.S. mid-east policy.
This evidence within this single story would/should forever remove any credibility toward the U.S. foreign policy under President Obama. It also destroys the credibility of a large number of well known republicans, and explains how the prior action placed President Trump into a precarious position requiring a careful approach.
The key Secretary Kerry moments are at 02:00, and again at approximately 18:30 forward.
The discussion from 18:30 through to 29:00 are exceptionally revealing and should be listened to by anyone who has wondered what was going on in Syria. Kerry even makes mention of the “Responsibility to Protect, or R2P” principle:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4phB-_pXDM
@18:30 Secretary John Kerry [transcript]:
[…] “Well, the problem is the Russians do not care about law, and we do. And, we don’t have a basis -our lawyers tell us- unless we have a U.N. Security Council resolution, which the Russians can veto and Chinese, OR unless we are under attack from the folks there, or unless we are invited in. Russia was invited in by the legitimate regime, well, it’s illegitimate in our mind, by the regime. And so, they were invited in and we’re not invited in.”
“We’re flying in airspace there, where they can turn on the air defense and we have a very different scene. The only reason they’re letting us fly is because we’re going after ISIS. If we were going after Assad, those air defenses, we’d have to take out all those air defenses, uh, and we don’t have a legal justification, frankly, for doing that unless we stretch it way beyond the law on a humanitarian basis, which some people argue we should – by the way.”
“Uh, but so far American legal theory has not gone into these so called “right to protect”, uh, and we don’t even have what we had in Kosovo where we had an, you know, an existing resolution and so forth. Uh, even though we went alone.”
“And so it’s complicated, it’s not easy. And we’ve been fighting. How many wars have we been fighting? We’ve been fighting in Afghanistan, we’ve been fighting in Iraq, we’ve fighting -you know- in the region for fourteen years. And a lot of Americans don’t believe that we should be fighting and sending young Americans over to die in another country. That’s the problem.”
“The congress won’t vote to do it. And you can be mad at us, but what we’re trying to do is help Syrians fight for their own country; and we’ve been spending a lot of money, a lot of effort to try and help do this. So, there’s an opposition there; the opposition is doing very well. Russia came in, and that’s a problem I know, because, uh, y’ know, uh, we don’t behave like Russians, it’s just a different standard.”
“So we are trying to see if we can test whether Russia, you see, is serious about a political solution. And if they are not serious, then we will help the opposition more. But I don’t think that’s particularly good for Syrians in the end because it will mean more fighting.”
Secretary Kerry is then questioned by an obvious sympathizer toward the extremist elements (calls pro-assad Sunni faction “Sunni Jews”) about why the U.S. fights the extremist Sunni (ISIS), but not the extremist Shia (Hezbollah). Kerry’s response:
“Well, they’re [Hezbollah] a terrorist organization, we’ve designated them a terrorist organization. The reason for [airstrikes against the Sunni Extremists] is because they have basically declared war on us; and are plotting against us, and Hezbollah is not plotting against us; Hezbollah is exclusively focused on Israel, they’re not attacking now, and on Syria where they are attacking in support of the, uh, in support of Assad.”
“So it a, uh, it’s…”
[Interrupted]
Question: “But how to make the majority of the Syrian people accept this approach, that because Hezbollah or the Iraqi or Iranian groups are not attacking the U.S. now when they are attacking against the terrorism in Syria?”
Kerry: “Well, they, they are targeted by the opposition who we are arming and training.”
What the recording reveals is substantive:
♦ First, only regime change, the removal of Bashir Assad, in Syria was the 2013, 2014, and 2015 goal for President Obama. This is admitted and outlined by Secretary John Kerry.
♦ Secondly, in order to accomplish this primary goal, the White House was willing to watch the rise of ISIS (’13, ’14, ’15) by placing their bet that ISIS’s success would force Syrian President Bashir Assad to acquiesce toward Obama’s terms and step down.
♦ Thirdly, in order to facilitate the objective, Obama and Kerry intentionally gave arms to ISIS and even, arguably, attacked a Syrian government military convoy to stop a strategic attack upon the Islamic extremists killing 80 Syrian soldiers.
Pause for a moment and consider those three points carefully. Because the audio, along with accompanying research now surfacing, not only exposes these three points as truth – but also provides the specific evidence toward them.
The problem in the Obama/Kerry’s secret strategy became clear when ISIS grew in sufficient strength to give the White House optimism for the scheme – however, instead of capitulation Assad then turned to Russia for help.
When Russia came to aid Bashir Assad the Syrian Government began being able to defeat ISIS and the Islamic Extremist elements within Syria. For the hidden plan of Obama/Kerry (and also McCain, Graham, et al), Russia defeating ISIS, al-Qaeda and al-Nusra, upended their objective.
Against the backdrop of this recording we can reconcile so many historic issues. We already know of a Second Presidential Finding Memo authorizing additional CIA covert action in 2012, this time in Syria. However, unlike the 2011 Libyan operation we do not know the operational name of the second action in 2012 Syria.
2012: WASHINGTON, Aug 1 (Reuters) – President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing U.S. support for rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, U.S. sources familiar with the matter said.
Obama’s order, approved earlier this year and known as an intelligence “finding,” broadly permits the CIA and other U.S. agencies to provide support that could help the rebels oust Assad. (link)
Further consider how this Kerry audio tape, and the now transparent Obama policy toward Syria, absolutely confirms our earlier research as contained within the Benghazi Brief surrounding Syria. [Previous post]
President Obama, Secretary Clinton (2011, 2012) and later Secretary Kerry, together with John McCain, and the CIA tentacled team within the Republican party (2013, 2014, 2015) were willing to support extremist (under all factional names) in order to overthrow Bashir Assad…
…THIS WAS THE Obama/Kerry POLICY.
This was their 2016 admitted policy, only because they were caught.
Nothing else mattered.
President Trump took office in January 2017, and began a process to kill and remove, with extreme prejudice, the ISIS forces that President Obama, Secretary Clinton and Secretary Kerry armed. He began with the end in mind, and delivered the following quote:…
That mission has been accomplished.
Source
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Sigh, great classic song but a terrible analogy. Silly turiya…
Homerism is a dark impenetrable forest through which meaningful dialogue between those of differing opinions these days is all but lost, it is one of the many "you can check out any time but you can never leave" traps readily and eagerly available to feed our modern day Tower of Babel moment.
Homerism:
In sportcasting, having a bias toward your hometown team or toward the team for which you play/used to play.
The local newspapers practice homerism, predicting that the hometown teams will win and complaining about the refs when the local teams lose.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...?term=Homerism
The unexamined life is not worth living.
Socrates
This should make it even more clear...Republican AND Democratic Senators criticized President Trump's plan to pull U.S. troops out of Syria.
Senators said the decision contradicts the advice of military leaders, undermines allies and will allow Islamic State insurgents to regroup. -- (Dec. 20) AP
So hard to believe that Lindsey Graham would be against saving soldier lives & billions of $$$. Why are we fighting for our enemy, Syria, by staying & killing ISIS for them, Russia, Iran & other locals? Time to focus on our Country & bring our youth back home where they belong!
11:22 AM - 20 Dec 2018
Lindsey Graham's stern advice to Trump
(Dec 20, 2018)
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Aianawa (22nd December 2018)
Actually, my comment was not directed towards you, Fred. But more towards Ntonyo's post containing the non-changing 'WeAreChange' bologna BS - who appear to be the ones not able to pull themselves out of the mud that they've chosen to settle themselves into.Unlike others, its good to see that a few can find their way out of Hotel California.
Sigh, great classic song but a terrible analogy. Silly turiya…
Cheers
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Aianawa (22nd December 2018)
Mattis Quits: Defense Secretary Out After Tense Meeting With TrumpMattis Resignation over differences of opinion...
by Tyler Durden
Fri, 12/21/2018
- President Trump announced over Twitter on Thursday that Defense Secretary James Mattis will be retiring in February.
- Mattis reportedly resigned during a meeting with Trump on Thursday after the two had a difference of opinion on some issues according to Reuters, citing a senior White House official.
- Mattis, in his resignation letter, took at jab at Trump's recently announced pullout from Syria, writing "Because you have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects, I believe it is right for me to step down from my position."
- Mattis' resignation letter in full (below):
[Side Note: The meaning of the two-word phrase "international order" can be somewhat of a sticking point as to what that actually means.]
Source: Zerohedge
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General Anthony Tata, author, “Dark Winter.” I think the President is making the exact right move in Syria. All the geniuses who are protesting the withdrawal of troops from Syria are the same geniuses who cooked the books on ISIS intelligence and gave rise to ISIS.”
6:50 AM - 21 Dec 2018
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Aianawa (22nd December 2018)
Trump is a genius & its killing people... its driving them nuts...The Superhuman Genius of Trump: The Wall, Syria,
Afghanistan, North Korea, Tax Cuts, Unemployment
(Dec 21, 2018)
Aianawa (22nd December 2018)
Feel Putin is about to get noisy or create a destraction very soon, due to Trump n co being active on so many fronts, will the world run out of popcorn if this continues lol ?
turiya (22nd December 2018)
Brilliant....CHECKMATE – Saudi Crown Prince MbS Sends Replacement Troops To Defend Kurds in Syria…
Posted on December 21, 2018
by sundance
Brilliant.
Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and the DC Decepticons are concerned about the Kurdish groups in Syria as the President Trump withdraws U.S. forces. The concern stems from a possibility of Turkey taking hostile action toward our Kurdish allies. However, a new report from the region highlights Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman is sending his forces to replace the U.S. troops.
SAUDI ARABIA (November 22, 2018) – Saudi Arabia and the UAE have sent military forces to areas controlled by the Kurdish YPG group in north-east Syria, Turkey’s Yenisafak newspaper reported.
The paper said the forces will be stationed with US-led coalition troops and will support its tasks with huge military enforcements as well as heavy and light weapons.
Quoting the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, the newspaper reported that a convoy of troops belonging to an Arab Gulf state recently arrived in the contact area between the Kurdish PKK/YPG and Daesh in the Deir Ez-Zor countryside.
This comes at a time when Ankara is preparing to launch an expanded military operation with the Free Syrian Army against the Kurdish PKK group in the northeast of Syria. (read more)
Now let’s consider the brilliance of this move.
First, remember Turkish President Recep Erdogan was the antagonist in the Kashoggi matter and Erdogan orchestrated the blame toward Saudi Crown Prince MbS. There is no better motivated mid-east ally to protect the Kurds against any military action by Turkey other than MbS. No doubt MbS and UAE will send their best forces.
Secondly, what military equipment will MbS and the UAE be shipping along with their military troops? Those would be military purchases directly from the U.S.
Third, who stood up against international pressure and refused to condemn MbS over the Kashoggi matter? That would be a strategic U.S. President Trump. MbS owes a favor; see how that works?
Fourth, what leverage does U.S President Trump have toward Turkey in order to further facilitate no hostile action? That would be the economic leverage of current sanctions against Iran; and the option of controlling/punishing any economic engagement therein.
So to summarize: President Trump withdraws U.S. troops from Syria, and leverages his relationship with MbS to step up to replace them, thereby eliminating any concern that Turkey might take hostile action toward our Kurdish allies in Northern Syria.
Our troops come home; and a stable transition is ensured by a regional ally.
How do you like them apples !
SOURCE
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Aianawa (22nd December 2018)
Nice to see the 16 year plan looking so obvious, nowadays, 8 bush n 8 Obama n then H Clinton lol indeed they never thought she would lose.
turiya (24th December 2018)
Lol now Donald Trumpy is all lovey dovey with Turkeys boss and trade dealing n middle fingering ISraels nettyyahooo, oh the times we are in, Korea is becoming Korea again, 2019 is looking like fun fun n Weres pissed off left n rite, feel the tide turns and the suffering will subside quickly or at least rapidly in 2019, just go to ones local market/mall/shopping centre and people watch.
turiya (24th December 2018)
Report begins @ 1:25.....Christmas Coming & the Deep State's Goose is Getting Cooked......
First Move For The Economic Structure
Change Has Been Initiated - Episode 1748a
(Dec 23, 2018)
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxI5aGHEZO0
Description:
- The first move has been made to get the people use to the idea that the Fed is to blame for the economy.
- It is being reported by the MSM that Trump is thinking about firing Powell, this is being done on purpose so the people get use to the idea that it can be done and that the President has the ability to change the structure of the Fed.
______________________
Federal Reserve Act
Section 10. Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
2. Members ineligible to serve member banks; term of office; chairman and vice chairman
The members of the Board shall be ineligible during the time they are in office and for two years thereafter to hold any office, position, or employment in any member bank, except that this restriction shall not apply to a member who has served the full term for which he was appointed. Upon the expiration of the term of any appointive member of the Federal Reserve Board in office on the date of enactment of the Banking Act of 1935, the President shall fix the term of the successor to such member at not to exceed fourteen years, as designated by the President at the time of nomination, but in such manner as to provide for the expiration of the term of not more than one member in any two-year period, and thereafter each member shall hold office for a term of fourteen years from the expiration of the term of his predecessor, unless sooner removed for cause by the President.
Q Post #1194....
Q Post #2619....
______________________
Agenda’s Exposed, Senate Was The Key,
2019 Changes Everything - Episode 1748b
(Dec 23, 2018)
Description:
- The true agenda of the deep state has been revealed regarding border security.
- They are exposed with their lies.
- The Senate was the true target, the plan was to have full control of the senate and now we will most likely see why this was important.
- 2019 is going to completely change everything.
______________________
Q Post #2626....
Active January 3, 2019....
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Troops Out of Syria and Afghanistan?
That’s a Good Start!
Guest Post by Ron Paul
Monday, December 24, 2018
We all had a big shock this week when, seemingly out of the blue, President Trump announced that he was removing US troops from Syria and would draw down half of the remaining US troops in Afghanistan. The president told us the troops were in Syria to fight ISIS and with ISIS nearly gone the Syrians and their allies could finish the job.
All of a sudden the Trump haters who for two years had been telling us that the president was dangerous because he might get us in a war, were telling us that the president is dangerous because he was getting us out of a war! These are the same people who have been complaining about the president’s historic efforts to help move toward peace with North Korea.
There was more than a little hypocrisy among the “never Trump” resistance over the president’s announcement. Many of the talking heads and politicians who attacked George W. Bush’s wars, then were silent for President Obama’s wars, are now attacking President Trump for actually taking steps to end some wars. It just goes to show that for many who make their living from politics and the military-industrial complex, there are seldom any real principles involved.
Among the neoconservatives, Sen. Lindsey Graham’s reaction was pretty typical. Though it seems Sen. Graham is never bothered when presidents violate the Constitution to take the US into another war without authorization, he cannot tolerate it when a president follows the Constitution and removes US troops from wars they have no business being involved in. Sen. Graham is now threatening to hold Congressional hearings in attempt to reverse the President’s decision to remove troops from Syria.
Neoconservatives are among the strongest proponents of the idea that as a “unitary executive,” the president should not be encumbered by things like the Constitution when it comes to war-making. Now all of a sudden when a president uses his actual Constitutional authority to remove troops from a war zone the neocons demand Congressional meddling to weaken the president. They get it wrong on both fronts! The president does have Constitutional authority to move US troops and to remove US troops; Congress has the power and the obligation to declare war and the power of the purse to end wars.
Most of the Washington establishment – especially the “resistance” liberals and the neocons – are complaining that by removing US troops from these two war zones President Trump has gone too far. I would disagree with them. I call President Trump’s announcement a good start. Americans are tired of being the world’s policemen. The United States does not “lose influence” by declining to get involved in disputes oceans away. We lose influence by spending more on the military than most of the rest of the world combined and meddling where we are not wanted. We will lose a whole lot more influence when their crazy spending makes us bankrupt. Is that what they want?
We should pay attention to Washington’s wild reaction to Trump’s announcement. The vested interests do not want us to have any kind of “peace dividend” because they have become so rich on the “war dividend.” Meanwhile the middle class is getting poorer and we’re all less safe. Let’s hope President Trump continues these moves to restore sanity in our foreign policy. That would really make America great again!_________________________
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