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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Playing divide n conquer, choosing one or two is allowing mindless, choosing zero to begin with, n watch, mindfullll imo
    I wish I understood what you've just written.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    ok, lets say we have some weres that want most people over seventy, those considered useless to by them, put down/killed, party A says lets put them in rest homes, party B says they draining society, party mindfullll says lets put rest homes in kindergartens and care for those unable to share n teach our children.

    Or divide opinion and not let people have other choices let alone their own.

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    I can't stop laughing at this. Master and the apprentice.


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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I can't stop laughing at this. Master and the apprentice.

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    Wonder what the tissue is for ?

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    There are always only two...a Master and an Apprentice.

    Which one is the Master?


    The notable fact about the former Fox commentator is what's new:

    That is, the calling out of propaganda. I've been telling people for years about our propaganda and they say, "No Way!"

    Now we have people in authority saying it in the mainstream. This is the beginning of what leads to the truth about 911 coming out. A tipping point.

    We're pretty tippy right now.

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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I can't stop laughing at this. Master and the apprentice.

    MkUltra

    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    This Evangelical Minister Helped Build the Religious Right. He Now Believes He Made a Terrible Mistake. And that Donald Trump might mean the end for American evangelicalism.

    The past four decades have seen an ever-tightening alliance between American evangelicals and the Republican Party, and few have played as pivotal a role in fostering that coupling as Reverend Rob Schenck.
    But today, Schenck is, in many respects, unrecognizable. He’s distanced himself from many of his fellow evangelical pastors and former political allies, leaving his anti-abortion work behind in favor of another pro-life cause, though one uncommon among American evangelicals: gun control.
    Schenck attributes this transformation to his late-career doctorate in ministry—specifically, his research on Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a German pastor who questioned the symbiotic, and problematic, relationship that emerged between Adolf Hitler and 1930s German evangelical churches.
    Schenck explores this Trumpian phenomenon and his personal evolution in his new memoir, Costly Grace: An Evangelical Minister’s Rediscovery of Faith, Hope and Love. He is self-critical as he explores the forces that gave way to the ultimate abandonment of his former values, highlighting particular moments when his thirst for power and influence overrode his pillars of faith.

    Like I said, we're getting tippy.

    Get ready for some more new and some more change.

    'Cause the more things change...

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    Well that's certainly interesting...

    At least that person has a semblance of true spiritual consciousness...the rest are pretty much a disgrace and really are little better than jihadists...in fact, most of them were in the middle ages.

    Trump supporters have that one thing in common...A desire for authoritarian rule...I guess at some level that makes sense to them. There are so many factors of early life parenting feeding the psychological need, double-bind situational onslaughts, emotional invalidation, a sense of helplessness in its face...horrible things. Fear for personal safety is the low level consciousness driving the need. If one remembers that science demonstrates remove the fear, remove the need for authoritarianism, remove the conservative/right then the issue clarifies.

    Those of whom we are so familiar that conflate 'politicians' as all of the same ilk conveniently deny the stark differences 'driving' the respective philosophies. And the most vociferous of those that deny the completely obvious line are the ones with the most at stake in facing the reality. Should we be surprised? Hardly.
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    Josh Marshall notes:

    ...The last twenty four hours of attacks on our closest allies capped by President Trump’s seemingly out of the blue demand to bring Russia back into the G-7 (making it again the G-8 which it was for most of the post-Cold War era until Russia was expelled over the annexation of Crimea) simply brings the matter into a newly sharp relief. If candidate Trump and President Putin had made a corrupt bargain which obligated President Trump to destabilize all U.S. security and trade alliances (especially NATO, which has been Russia’s primary strategic goal for 70 years) and advance the strategic interests of Russia, there’s really nothing more remotely realistic he could have done to accomplish that than what he has in fact done.
    ...Back to the main point. We have a President who clearly got a great deal of assistance from Russia in getting elected. We can argue about how important it was to his victory. But the reality of the help is not in any real dispute. His campaign at a minimum had numerous highly suspicious contacts with people either in the Russian government or acting on behalf of the Russian government while that was happening. That is a very generous interpretation. He’s doing all the stuff he’d have been asked to do if such a corrupt bargain had been made. At a certain point – and I’d say we’re clearly at or past that point – it really doesn’t matter whether we can prove such a bargain was made.
    Gorka and Hannity, two Fox network talking heads, are going to Singapore with Trump.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Josh Marshall notes:





    Gorka and Hannity, two Fox network talking heads, are going to Singapore with Trump.
    jeez...two sucky human beings. Gorka is about the most offensive jerk I've ever seen.
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    Lol likely no wish for a trial either.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Lol likely no wish for a trial either.
    trial is over...condemned to iniquity...
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    A very large, and guessing the meltdown factors being seen micro and macro, POO has hit the Noospheric fan lol

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    I suppose that's true for many...I haven't changed my worldview in many years...but Trump can certainly represent a meltdown point of sorts. He is the antithesis of everything that is moral, uplifting, selfless, intelligent, intellectual, caring, circumspect, polite, inclusive, modest, balanced, fair, reasonable, centered, reflective, self-aware, self-reflective, honest, forward looking, enlightened, historically astute, spiritual, healing, non-elitist, equanimitas, magnanimitas, or an agent of positive change.
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