Trump: Illusion, Mist and Bought?

**enjoy being** · 23rd May 2018, 22:43

Ahh, maybe but without reading a Time article or watching a video, I see the fashion to blame politicians and systems as the first problem. Studying a system filled with corrupted hearts and minds, which came first the chicken or the egg? The rooster. (sorry that's an aside lame-ism).
The accusation against the system is fine and I agree, probably, but in the same breath feel that such accusations should be kept from the people who don't want to look at their own input into the matter as that is one of the biggest p-lightful excuses that hobbles progress.
Equally though if anyone has managed to get the online magic wand shop to finally deliver on their order, it would be interesting to see what the captives would do if the woke up one morning into a completely new realm of machination.
It is a machine, it is the people that make it a community, and the malcontent will find a way to start souring the pudding.
Even when you hand people the most fantastic news or tools, there are those who will shout it down and turn it into weaponry.
That's the problem. If you FIX the system, you just prolong, avoid, substitute the paths that were going to eventually eradicate these sorts of behaviours. The hope is that would still leave a human race, the more fixing and propping up of systems that happens the larger the correction needed in the population.

**Wind** · 23rd May 2018, 23:10

It's all about consciousness.

Every human is on their own level of consciousness and you just can observe from society how it is collectively. The system reflects that so I agree.

"I'm starting with the man in the mirror
I'm asking him to change his ways"

**Dreamtimer** · 23rd May 2018, 23:46

Howard Bloom talked about Michael Jackson being one of the most special people he had ever known.

**Emil El Zapato** · 23rd May 2018, 23:48

Hi DT,

is there a trick to posting a png or such...I go to google...and try to grab an image but all I ever get is the link? thnx Nap

**Dreamtimer** · 24th May 2018, 00:13

I usually open an image in a new tab, copy that link and then use the insert image icon in order to post it. I also have been resizing.

Occasionally I run into images that are 'digital' and when I try to copy the link it's a long string of numbers and stuff and it doesn't work.

**enjoy being** · 24th May 2018, 00:52

Agree about Michael Jackson, I never believed any of the carry on in the press/squash about him. Given the track record or defaming, framing and destroying musicians, it would always seem too likely given his song lyrics, that he was only guilty of being a bit minced up from being a child star in the squash. The stories of his eccentricity seemed to move in time with the shape of his lyrics. Dangerous the operative word.

As time has gone on, it has been harder to just assassinate people, they have to commit suicide or accidentally over dose, or be neutralised via scandal.

**Aragorn** · 24th May 2018, 04:41

Originally posted by Dreamtimer

Occasionally I run into images that are 'digital' and when I try to copy the link it's a long string of numbers and stuff and it doesn't work.

Yep, I've had that happen to me again only yesterday. It's not because of the image itself, but because of a dirty trick they use in the setup of the web server software in order to ensure that nobody would be able to run away with their "intellectual property". Among others, The Guardian does it that way.

**Wind** · 24th May 2018, 04:55

Originally posted by enjoy being

Agree about Michael Jackson, I never believed any of the carry on in the press/squash about him. Given the track record or defaming, framing and destroying musicians, it would always seem too likely given his song lyrics, that he was only guilty of being a bit minced up from being a child star in the squash. The stories of his eccentricity seemed to move in time with the shape of his lyrics. Dangerous the operative word.

As time has gone on, it has been harder to just assassinate people, they have to commit suicide or accidentally over dose, or be neutralised via scandal.

MJ had too strong messages, that couldn't be tolerated.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1pqi8vjTLY

Every MJ fan deserves to know the TRUTH! The disclaimer at the intro of this video is NOT MJ's real original message! The REAL disclaimer that could be seen in the original 1996 release before it was banned reads:

"This film depicts the need for hope to rise against man's injustices to man, and the need for prayer to unite man against the hatred we have seen throughout time and throughout the world. This is not an attempt to degrade or single out any one race or religion, but rather an effort to arouse the mind and spirit of us all."

After MJ was murdered, the estate had the audacity to change the disclaimer and twist his words to what you see today. His estate is erasing MJ's original message. Don't let these frauds MANIPULATE you. Please pass this on for Michael Jackson and let every fan know the TRUTH! Keep Michael's message alive, don't let them ERASE who he was and what he stood for!

**enjoy being** · 24th May 2018, 05:15

Interesting, I hadn't seen that video version of that song.
So often you hear how record companies or management manipulate the message in that way.
One good thing about indy and the internet allowing bands to produce themselves.
I don't listen to the radio much, public radio only plays music from the cult.

**Emil El Zapato** · 24th May 2018, 10:59

Originally posted by Wind

MJ had too strong messages, that couldn't be tolerated.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1pqi8vjTLY

There was a time starting in the mid 80's when it simply was not cool to admit liking Michael Jackson...I always believed that he was the talent of his generation. He was great. One of my favorites is "Dirty Diana"

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUi_S6YWjZw

**Emil El Zapato** · 24th May 2018, 11:18

Originally posted by Wind

MJ had too strong messages, that couldn't be tolerated.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1pqi8vjTLY

This gets to the very bones of life...

and it's horrible.

**Dreamtimer** · 8th June 2018, 14:10

Lt. Col. Ralph Peters...is a staunch conservative who has had his share of repulsive commentaries while he was a Fox New military analyst. But on Wednesday Peters made his first non-Fox television appearance with an interview by Anderson Cooper on CNN. His unrepressed rage and disgust for his former employer was a startling thing to behold. So startling, in fact, that it needs no elaboration. Feast on these remarks by someone who once called President Obama a "pussy" on the air (video below):

"Robert Mueller is as noble -- and I use that word carefully -- as noble a public servant as you will find. And the assaults upon his character, upon his practices, upon his investigation just betray our fundamental principles."

"I think [Fox News is] doing a great deal of damage still. We won't know how bad for years to come when we see the ultimate results."

"With the rise of Donald Trump, Fox did become a destructive propaganda machine, and I don't do propaganda for anyone."

"As a former military officer, you took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. And I saw, in my view, Fox, particularly the primetime hosts, attacking our constitutional order, the rule of law, the Justice Department, the FBI, Robert Mueller, and, oh, by the way, the intelligence agencies. And they're doing it for ratings and profit. And they're doing it knowingly, in my view, doing a grave, grave disservice to our country."

"I suspect Sean Hannity really believes it. The others are smarter. They know what they're doing. It's -- it's bewildering to me. I mean I want to just cry out and say, how can you do this? How can you lie to our country?"

"I think we're in a constitutional crisis right now. And we'll end up either, barring unforeseen circumstances, either with impeachment or before the Supreme Court or both."

"You have a president who believes he is above the law, who does not understand our system of government, does not respect our system of government, and willingly subverts our system of government."

"I think a lot of Trump supporters are so embarrassed by how it's all turned out that they just cling to him. They won't let any facts penetrate their reality. [They insist that Trump] is some sort of messiah."

"I am convinced that Vladimir Putin has a grip on President Trump. And, Anderson, when I first learned of the Steele dossier, it just rang true to me because that's how the Russians do things. And before he became a candidate for president, Donald Trump was the perfect target for Russian intelligence. Here's someone who has no self-control, a sense of sexual entitlement and intermittent financial crises. I mean that's made to order for seduction by Russian intelligence."

"When you look at Trump's behavioral patterns, his unwillingness ever to criticize Vladimir Putin, his slow rolling sanctions, his unwillingness to create problems with Russia, even though, as he attacks NATO, disrupts relations with the E.U., how can you not draw the conclusions that Donald Trump, the president of the United States, is frightened of Vladimir Putin."

"The Mueller investigation is the most important of my lifetime. And I'm 66 years old. I lived through Watergate."

**Aianawa** · 8th June 2018, 20:54

How would he cope in our eyes upon being asked about 9-11 truth, likely we would watch him say no government would kill their own people for power-money-etc

**Aragorn** · 8th June 2018, 21:05

Originally posted by Aianawa

How would he cope in our eyes upon being asked about 9-11 truth, likely we would watch him say no government would kill their own people for power-money-etc

Ahem... John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, et al...