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    I think Aianawa has no skin in the game, he's just enjoying the show...I would be too if I didn't think Trump was the definition of "Poor white trash" playing in a world where his 3rd grade education, inbreeding and intrinsic psychopathy doesn't offer the least bit of facility. I believe it should be obvious to an overwhelming degree that he is a total loss.
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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    If he's the best in years you must be positive about the outcomes. What do you think they will be?
    Vern...what do you mean? The rest of the world are biting...

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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    I think Aianawa has no skin in the game, he's just enjoying the show...I would be too if I didn't think Trump was the definition of "Poor white trash" playing in a world where his 3rd grade education, inbreeding and intrinsic psychopathy doesn't offer the least bit of facility. I believe it should be obvious to an overwhelming degree that he is a total loss.
    Rich white trash...we have a lot of these guys in the American South. The Trumpster Fire fits as he lives in Florida a lot.

    Money tends to ruin folks IMO. Folks lose their humanity over making it, having it, preserving it, "the root of evil" indeed.

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    I don't have a definition in my mind for white trash.

    I have seen money mess people up first hand. Whatever potential that had not been realized before, was once they became rich.

    It must be a kind of inherent imbalance. Some people can never have enough. People often become much more materialistic than they were before when they get a lot of money.

    I've been part of more than one conversation about how to raise kids to be able to handle lots of money. It's not easy.

    Don't misunderstand me, I'm not one of the very rich.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    I don't have a definition in my mind for white trash.

    I have seen money mess people up first hand. Whatever potential that had not been realized before, was once they became rich.

    It must be a kind of inherent imbalance. Some people can never have enough. People often become much more materialistic than they were before when they get a lot of money.

    I've been part of more than one conversation about how to raise kids to be able to handle lots of money. It's not easy.

    Don't misunderstand me, I'm not one of the very rich.
    Depends on your definition of very rich. At one time we netted out at ~$5mil. The GF never changed, I did a little, but we were always looking for the fair deal, win-win sort of thing and we did deals together. We lost most of it due to W’s “Great Recession” and a crooked financial advisor (a Bernie Madoff sort of thing) and as it’s “only money” (we have our health) no big deal. I thought I’d be devastated, but not so, we are really ok.

    I think rich really sort of starts at ~$10 mil with the really big houses, crazy Italian cars. Many of the folks in that bin, and I knew a few of them, were/are not “good” people, did not take care of their hires, always working the deal, taking advantage whenever/however they can. It was especially apparent in The Netherlands as we lived among the normal folks early (and got along with everybody) in our 8 year tour. I bought a thatch-roofed semi-detached house in the posh section of Wassenaar for the last 3 years, and we could not stand the neighbors who were mostly abusive rich a-holes. The house was gorgeous but not worth the nasty neighborhood.

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    Man oh Manafort must be mad. At his lawyers. They accidentally attached their legal notes to a filing which now makes them publicly available. (I would have lost my job same day if I'd done something like that). How fun for a lawyer to peruse those.

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    Imo, he was bought, But, not by the usual suspects, lol they probably bought him years before, or not. He was under siege some years ago, doing bably , imo on purpose by some powers, they imo gave him an option which he took fast, then all of a sudden the narrative changed, all was well with Trump empire as such, imo tptW had a faction which timelined in favour of Making it as such.

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    He didn't really have an empire. It was part of the illusion.

    He's building one now, on our backs. Emoluments clause anyone?

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    An informant in Manafort's team would be pretty sweet. And with Flynn indicted and cooperating, things are getting very juicy. Some sizzling is to come, I think.

    There's so much there there they need a zip code.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    Rich white trash...we have a lot of these guys in the American South. The Trumpster Fire fits as he lives in Florida a lot.

    Money tends to ruin folks IMO. Folks lose their humanity over making it, having it, preserving it, "the root of evil" indeed.
    Interesting truth there...from a sociological perspective the very rich and the very poor have much more in common than one would expect. In a manner of speaking it's what the 'minority haters' have in common with the minorities. Philosophy point 1.: Take care of yourself...it is the projection point to the 'welfare class'. They do take care of themselves sometimes better than their social analogues. They receive money and they don't even have to work for it. Philosophy Point 2.: Teach a man to fish bullshit meme. The welfare class are fishing like hell...fishing for food stamps, childcare, and health insurance.

    Here's my main Philosophical point:

    Deny a man a legitimate pursuit of wealth, health, and happiness, he will damn sure find a way to catch the whale.
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    Lol, whatever , narrative has changed imo in every persons story, everyones mind, alls ones heads, even all persons brain wiring as such, since 2012 21 12, DNA part of the process also imo, this all entails and inheads our new dimensions being part of the or this journey, de old is screwed as we renew.

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    Thus the chaos?

    We sure owe the Europeans some love and respect:

    In the Summer of 2015, Dutch intelligence services were the first to alert their American counterparts about the cyberintrusion of the Democratic National Committee by Cozy Bear, a hacking group believed to be tied to the Russian government. Intelligence hackers from Dutch AIVD (General Intelligence and Security Service) had penetrated the Cozy Bear computer servers as well as a security camera at the entrance of their working space, located in a university building adjacent to the Red Square in Moscow.

    Over the course of a few months, they saw how the Russians penetrated several U.S. institutions, including the State Department, the White House, and the DNC. On all these occasions, the Dutch alerted the U.S. intelligence services
    We're too busy screaming about Benghazi and Uranium one to notice what's up our knickers.

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    Easy there Dreamtimer, do you take everything Western intelligence agencies say at face value?

    The unexamined life is not worth living.

    Socrates

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    Lot said in the foregoing posts. My first thought with Trump was "Aha! He's his own man". With all those billions (3.7 to begin with), he is BEHOLDEN TO NO ONE. Also remember the saying: "He who forgets his past is doomed to repeat it." If we MUST anything, it's remember the past. What did we learn from Vietnam, Korea, Pearl Harbor, etc.? Do you realize we (the US) have NEVER been OUT of a state of war since 1700? During that time we have been in 79 wars, of one kind or another. I remember an earlier reference on this forum to a book by a military man entitled: "War Is A Racket" Remember it? It had something to teach us. What did YOU learn from it? It's extremely important. And this book came out of
    this soldier's experience IN WORLD WAR 1 (Yes, that's ONE!)
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    I worked for Gen Powell, seemed like a fine man. Sad day for me when he did this.

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