Trump: Illusion, Mist and Bought?

**Emil El Zapato** · 6th December 2020, 19:42

Didn't bother to ascertain if this is really real or not, but:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FrboBQvi74

**Aianawa** · 8th December 2020, 21:21

Approaching the feel good part of this movie >

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1l-nR1Apj4

**Emil El Zapato** · 8th December 2020, 21:53

~ We're Not Gonna Get Away With It ~

**Dreamtimer** · 9th December 2020, 08:10

The Supreme Court refused to hear the case trying to invalidate millions of votes in Pennsylvania. We've reached the day of safe harbor. If Trump thinks he can lead the country by overturning an election with faithless electors, he's filled with the worst intentions imaginable.

Who in the world thinks he could lead well having undermined the very system which gave him the office? He'd be a second term failure before inauguration.

I find myself wondering why so many people want to see American elections overturned and our Democracy fail. Why do people want to see a wanna-be dictator become president indefinitely? Why do people want America to fail?

It's not like the results will be candy and roses and games for all. Do people want to see the number one national powers in the world be China and Russia?

Do people want right-wing police states?

What is it?

**donk** · 9th December 2020, 12:46

Originally posted by Dreamtimer

The Supreme Court refused to hear the case trying to invalidate millions of votes in Pennsylvania. We've reached the day of safe harbor. If Trump thinks he can lead the country by overturning an election with faithless electors, he's filled with the worst intentions imaginable.

Who in the world thinks he could lead well having undermined the very system which gave him the office? He'd be a second term failure before inauguration.

I find myself wondering why so many people want to see American elections overturned and our Democracy fail. Why do people want to see a wanna-be dictator become president indefinitely? Why do people want America to fail?

It's not like the results will be candy and roses and games for all. Do people want to see the number one national powers in the world be China and Russia?

Do people want right-wing police states?

What is it?

No, the less aware believe the emotional manipulating lies, the more aware are just self interested wastes of lie who will burn the earth to the ground for a few more pieces of silver

**Dreamtimer** · 9th December 2020, 12:48

Maybe an asteroid would be better.

**Emil El Zapato** · 9th December 2020, 12:51

My preferred option use to be nukes but then after my daughter was born I had to reconsider the options. In Robert Heinlein's 'The Moon is a Harsh Mistress' (I think) Targeted asteroids are used to bombard Earth...it could work!

**Dreamtimer** · 9th December 2020, 12:57

Footfall. By Nivel and Pournell.

The Fithp, who are familiar with nuclear weapons but prefer to use cleaner ones, are shocked by what they consider the barbarity of humans' willingness to "foul their own garden" with radioactivity. The Fithp respond to the defeat of their invasion by dropping a large asteroid into the Indian Ocean, whose impact results in environmental damage on a global scale

**Emil El Zapato** · 9th December 2020, 13:04

That might be another one, but yes Footfall, collaboration by the very good writer and the psychopathic vampire Pournelle.

The 'Loonies' from Heinlein:

Book 3: TANSTAAFL!
(The title is an acronym for "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch!", a common expression on Luna that states one of the main ideas of the book's political system).

The Federated Nations of Earth send an infantry force to destroy the Lunar revolution, but the troops, with superior arms but inexperienced in low-gravity underground combat, are defeated by the Loonies at great cost. The rumor is circulated that Mike's alter ego Adam Selene was among the dead, removing the need for him to appear in person.

Earth still refuses to recognize Lunar independence, and the revolutionaries deploy their catapult weapon. When Mike launches rocks at sparsely populated locations on Earth, warnings are released to the press detailing the times and locations of the bombings, which deliver kinetic energy equivalent to atomic blasts. Some scoffers, as well as apocalyptic religious groups, travel to the sites and die, turning public opinion against the fledgling nation. For Mike, guiding dozens of simultaneous projectile strikes requires an unprecedented computational feat, and when the pinpoints light up on the Earth below, he tells Mannie it is an orgasmic experience.

**Elen** · 10th December 2020, 06:49

Originally posted by Dreamtimer

Maybe an asteroid would be better.

It's not going to happen!

**Aianawa** · 10th December 2020, 08:47

Originally posted by Dreamtimer

The Supreme Court refused to hear the case trying to invalidate millions of votes in Pennsylvania. We've reached the day of safe harbor. If Trump thinks he can lead the country by overturning an election with faithless electors, he's filled with the worst intentions imaginable.

Who in the world thinks he could lead well having undermined the very system which gave him the office? He'd be a second term failure before inauguration.

I find myself wondering why so many people want to see American elections overturned and our Democracy fail. Why do people want to see a wanna-be dictator become president indefinitely? Why do people want America to fail?

It's not like the results will be candy and roses and games for all. Do people want to see the number one national powers in the world be China and Russia?

Do people want right-wing police states?

What is it?

Truth matters ?