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    Quote Originally posted by modwiz View Post
    My theory will get tested should Trump become president. I guess we cannot rule out clones if the real Trump becomes unmanageable. We need new ideas for self-governance anyway. This current game stinks and is poorly conceived.
    Thank you for not using that nasty word.

    I like the idea of self-governance, I think the ideas for self government are already out there. They are hidden or ridiculed but they are out there and have been for a long time.

    Here, take this herring!

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Remember how everyone thought the economy was going to be great under Bush, the MBA president? He was not actually very good at running businesses. And he ran our economy into the ground. Bush's real credentials were being governor. As with Romney, though his campaign was all about Bain Capital. The reason Governors are usually the strongest candidates is because they have actual experience running government which is not the same as running a business.

    I don't want the country run like a corporation where the CEO is only answerable to the shareholders and not the people or community. The shareholders aren't going to be the American people. They're gonna be whoever gave money and has the most power.

    There are the insiders (and some are CEOs) and there are the outsiders (beholden to their own principles).

    We KNOW which one Hillary is, so we have nothing to lose to roll the dice for Trump. Not a single thing to lose. It would be impossible for anything to end up worse if anyone other than Hillary is elected president.

    Having said all the above, this does nothing about the actual, real "shot callers" of our world - the real difference makers who, without having a consciousness shift, will ensure their goals are achieved sooner or later. Trump is the US Brexit. Yet how long will Brexit last before it is surrounded by the forces that will wish it to fail? This probably would be the same for the US if Trump gets elected... only a delay of the inevitable unless at that key level there occurred a true consciousness shift.

    When Johnson's coup d'etat occurred, the same team has been acting as CEO (save the small blip during Carter as he was only half on board) of the American corporation. Each one bought and/or forced to do the bidding of the shot callers because of blackmail. The odds of Trump being bought are zero. The likelihood he ever gave anyone any opportunity to black mail him are slim. People may not like him but we know with absolutely no doubt exactly what will happen with Hillary... with no doubt.

    Anyone that is a US citizen and has kids and grand kids should carefully think about this one. Fortunately I have residency in another country and this election will be key to where I decide to finish out my life.
    All the above is all and only my opinion. It may contain some sharing of components of my current operating strategy and some foundational components of my current world view - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Thoughtful answer, Sam. Thank you. I haven't decided to move away. My husband has always been the one who wanted to do that.

    Trump is the US Brexit. Especially if he actually gets elected.

    "He's an outsider. He's uncontrollable." The debates should be like fireworks.

    There's gonna be a lot of angry people at the polls if elections keep getting messed up the way they have been.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Remember how everyone thought the economy was going to be great under Bush, the MBA president? He was not actually very good at running businesses. And he ran our economy into the ground. Bush's real credentials were being governor.
    The Federal Reserve controls our economy and it's a private corporation, despite the word "federal" in it's name. As others have pointed out, the Federal Reserve is as much part of the federal government as Federal Express, the private mail company. The Bush family is a "special case." If we start tracing them back, we see that George W.'s first business partners as an oil man were members of the Bin Laden family. There's our first indication that something is wrong. His dad, G. H. W. Bush, was director of the CIA but can't remember where he was or what he was doing when Kennedy was shot. Old grandpappy Bush, Prescott, banked for the Nazis out of New England until the US declared war on Germany and shut his operations down.

    You can follow the trail of destruction left in the wake of this family's involvement in everything from financing the Nazis, to creating al Qaeda and building them up to fight the Soviets in the 1980's, to 9/11 and using al Qaeda as an excuse to invade the Middle East. If they weren't directly responsible for these things then they were at least associated with all of them and facilitated them.

    This has become the "political establishment" on both the right and left, and the Clintons are a good example of what this kind of crime family looks like on the other side of the aisle. Going over Bill and Hillary's rise to power is another dark story, just as sociopathic in their lack of respect for human life, that can be found elsewhere.

    I don't think it's just a show that both the Bush family on the republican side and the Clintons on the democratic side of the political aisle genuinely dislike Trump and the things he's saying. Bernie was anti-establishment to a certain degree but much less so than Trump. The Nazi party in Germany campaigned as socialists. I know socialism is still popular in Europe but I think we need to rethink this style of government and what its actual results have been compared to what we might like to see. A lot of this goes back to economic issues and the fact that our financial corporations are run outside of the control of our governments.

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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    A lot of this goes back to economic issues and the fact that our financial corporations are run outside of the control of our governments.
    Bingo.

    Now... the question might be, why has humanity on Earth participated in making this as it is and/or has allowed it to become as it is?

    I have been looking deeply at this question and am close to taking a stab at it in a post.
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    Quote Originally posted by Sam Hunter View Post
    Bingo.

    Now... the question might be, why has humanity on Earth participated in making this as it is and/or has allowed it to become as it is?

    I have been looking deeply at this question and am close to taking a stab at it in a post.
    I'd love it if you did, Sam.

    The Fed has been around a long time and I, no doubt, need to refresh my memory regarding its formation and who was involved.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    I'd love it if you did, Sam.

    The Fed has been around a long time and I, no doubt, need to refresh my memory regarding its formation and who was involved.
    Here is some good information on the Fed
    https://archive.org/details/Creature....EdwardGriffin

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    DNC seems very involved in anti-trump rallies.

    In multiple emails, DNC officials signed off and acknowledged the existence of two anti-Donald Trump protests in South Bend, IN and Billings, MT. The release of nearly 20,000 emails is the first in a WikiLeaks “Hillary Leaks” series.

    On April 29, a DNC press staffer, Rachel Palermo, alerted Eric Walker, deputy communications director, about a Facebook page for an anti-Trump protest on May 2 in South Bend. "Whoo! Thanks to our interns for finding this out.” Walker replies, “I like it, as long as the students feel safe getting involved. I imagine this demo will be nicer than the one in San Fran today.

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    Pied Piper Trump is calling all racists rats/pigs to show their true racist nature in public, for all to see.
    Former Grand Wizard of the KKK, David Duke, has endorsed Trump, and he has been compelled to run for the Senate seat in Louisiana. http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/politi...e-senate-race/

    Below, is a disgusting excuse for a human being who is cheering on Trump while harassing a black woman on a train.

    Warning, vulgar language is present.

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    I wonder who's the tall woman who eventually leads angry man off. I can't even believe he made the 'fields' comment.

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    Quote Originally posted by lift the veil View Post
    Pied Piper Trump is calling all racists rats/pigs to show their true racist nature in public, for all to see.
    Former Grand Wizard of the KKK, David Duke, has endorsed Trump, and he has been compelled to run for the Senate seat in Louisiana. http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/politi...e-senate-race/

    Below, is a disgusting excuse for a human being who is cheering on Trump while harassing a black woman on a train.

    Warning vulgar language is present.

    The topic of emotionalism comes up periodically. This video is a pretty fantastic example of one person keeping their cool while another loses their s*&t.

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    Good ol' Drumpf supporters showing the real reason why they support him. Warning, foul language is present. Shocked, not.

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    FWIW, I find the latest channeled Matthew's Messages interesting regarding the US Presidential election. Please see excerpt below. On a side-note, Matthew accurately predicted Obama winning both previous elections.

    http://www.matthewbooks.com/july-29-2016/

    Of special interest in the United States and, because of its international influence, in other countries as well, is that nation’s two major political parties’ presidential nominees. We stated in previous messages that prevailing vibrations were not supporting candidates who lack moral and spiritual integrity, but the voters will decide who wins. Each party’s nominee has staunch supporters; however, the energy momentum of the electorate’s widespread dissatisfaction with both has become too strong for either to be elected.

    Earth’s monitors in Nirvana tell us that the energy awhirl could manifest any of various possibilities that will put Senator Bernie Sanders in the White House. Souls at this station are apolitical, so it is not on a partisan basis that we will welcome his presidency, but rather that his wisdom, personal qualities and leadership will enable his country and your world to continue progressing toward Gaia’s vision for all life on her planetary body.
    My question to you all is what sort of events would led to Bernie becoming the President, as he is not going to be on the ballot? Some catastrophic events regarding both candidates would have to occur to disqualify both Drumpf and Hillary.

    What are your opinions on what could unfold to enable Bernie to become President?


    Further down, Matthew addresses the immigrant issue and the prejudice surrounding it. I myself have pointed out that Drumpf was appealing to those who have a BASE mentality, including racism and hate, and could not have put it better than what Matthew points out here. The racists are showing their true colors proudly and exposing themselves for all to see.

    “I am distressed about countries not wanting to accept immigrants from violence-torn areas and prejudice growing against them in countries that have taken them in. How can we ever live in harmony with prejudice increasing? First let us say that fear—a highly magnified energy form that is the major tool and fuel of dark minds and hearts—is the root of prejudice in all its pernicious forms and the source of all actions stemming from the illusion of separateness.

    For the eons that Earth was stuck in deep third density, prejudice was the motivator of the violence and injustices that let countless souls complete their chosen karmic lessons. Now that the society is moving out of that density with its karmic merry-go-round, what is perceived as prejudice increasing actually is putting this basest aspect of humankind into the glare of a global spotlight so its destructive divisiveness can be clearly seen. As vibrations keep rising, healing, harmony and peace will come as love and mutual respect unify the peoples in the Oneness of All.
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    Quote Originally posted by lift the veil View Post
    Good ol' Drumpf supporters showing the real reason why they support him. Warning, foul language is present. Shocked, not.
    Between two candidates with roughly equal popularity at the moment, you could find "interesting" people supporting either of them, and neither of them. There are over 300 million people in the US after all.

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    Quote Originally posted by lift the veil View Post
    FWIW, I find the latest channeled Matthew's Messages interesting regarding the US Presidential election. Please see excerpt below. On a side-note, Matthew accurately predicted Obama winning both previous elections.

    http://www.matthewbooks.com/july-29-2016/



    My question to you all is what sort of events would led to Bernie becoming the President, as he is not going to be on the ballot? Some catastrophic events regarding both candidates would have to occur to disqualify both Drumpf and Hillary.

    What are your opinions on what could unfold to enable Bernie to become President?
    Okay, I will bite my own question. I think Wikileaks will drop the other shoe regarding Clinton and maybe Anonymous will hack Don the Cons tax returns and show what he is too afraid to show.

    Any other ponderings out there as to what major event could happen and what it might expose???

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