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    Donald Trump Reportedly Wants An Ex-Goldman Exec To Be Treasury Secretary

    Don the Con is at it again. He is sooooo anti-establishment. What a crock of shite. Hillary gives paid speeches at Goldman Sachs but Donald wants put an ex-Goldman Sachs exec. in charge of the Hen house. Again, he is just sooooo anti-establishment, NOT.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...321dd?section=

    Donald Trump, the political outsider running a renegade campaign for president, has a fresh idea about who should head the Treasury Department: an ex-Goldman Sachs executive.

    Fortune’s Dan Primack reports that Anthony Scaramucci, a Trump fundraiser and hedge fund salesman, says Trump has told potential donors that if he is elected he wants to nominate Steve Mnuchin, his campaign’s finance chairman, to be Treasury secretary.

    Mnuchin is the co-CEO and co-founder of Dune Capital Management, a hedge fund. He worked at Goldman Sachs for 17 years and left in 2002. Mnuchin’s father, Robert, was a partner at Goldman Sachs before retiring to run an art gallery. In 2004, Steve started Dune Capital with funding from George Soros, the progressive trader, philanthropist and boogeyman to conservative conspiracy theorists everywhere.

    If hiring a former Goldman Sachs executive to run fundraising efforts was an odd choice for Trump, who’d bragged that self-funding his campaign made him immune to special interests, then daydreaming about appointing the same person Treasury secretary ― presumably to woo donors ― only amplifies the absurdity. In truth, Trump was never fully self-funding his presidential bid, and his campaign staff is increasingly stocked with lobbyists.

    Were Mnuchin appointed secretary of the Treasury, he’d be the third Goldman alum to hold the post. Robert Rubin served as secretary for four years during the Clinton administration, and Hank Paulson spent the last two and a half years of George W. Bush’s presidency in the position.

    Trump has previously said that activist investor Carl Icahn, a pioneer of the hostile takeover in the 1980s, would be his Treasury secretary. Icahn initially declined Trump’s offer before deciding that actually, he would like to run the Treasury in a Trump administration.

    Scaramucci did not respond to a request for comment.
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    Within chaos lies opportunity. Sun Tzu (The Art of War)


    Chaos will be created no matter who is in the White House come January 2017. This is the baseline strategy of the 'Globalists'. What opportunities do you think will arise from this created chaos . . . .

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    Quote Originally posted by lift the veil View Post
    Don the Con is at it again. He is sooooo anti-establishment. What a crock of shite. Hillary gives paid speeches at Goldman Sachs but Donald wants put an ex-Goldman Sachs exec. in charge of the Hen house.
    Speaking of hen houses, it might be better to not count their eggs until they've hatched, because a lot of people thought that Trump was going to make Chris Christie his vice presidential nominee too (including Christie himself from the looks of it), but he didn't. The idea was apparently enough to get Christie to cooperate early on in the primaries, though.

    I suspect that Trump is going to be telling a lot of people a lot of things just to get them to cooperate long enough for him to actually get to the White House. He allegedly even told some media executives in a private meeting that he wasn't actually planning to build a wall on the Mexican border and it was all just for the campaign, and that's one of his biggest campaign promises. I really think he doesn't even know himself what exactly he is going to do yet.

    Having said all that I'm still convinced that he is very nationalistic and pro-American, which is much more than could be said for Hillary Clinton, and I'm also still convinced that he is legitimately from outside of the Washington establishment. The closest thing to establishment ties that Trump has is probably with the mob, or else the DIA or military in general, and I don't know to what extent either of those two factions really have control over what he's doing either.

    The infighting between globalist and nationalist factions today is real, not just in the US but in many other countries: Britain with Brexit, France and Germany with their immigration crises and France's FN party, Ukraine split between the EU and Russia, Brazil struggling to keep a US puppet out of power during impeachment proceedings and Japan looking for ways to re-establish its own sovereignty, for starters.

    The CIA and Pentagon-backed forces have been fighting each other in Syria for some time now and have even been complaining about each other in the MSM. I don't think it's just a puppet show when the CIA is trying to overthrow yet another sovereign nation's government, only to have Pentagon-backed forces check them and wreak havoc upon them, which is what has been happening. It would be a massive and completely stupid waste of resources if they did not legitimately have a difference of opinion on the issue. And former DIA director Michael Flynn (military intelligence chief) has been giving Trump advice for some time now as well, while the Bush/Clinton faction still seems married to the CIA and its Neo-Con agenda.

    Fighting Between the Pentagon- and CIA-Backed Militias Portrays a Chaotic U.S. Foreign Policy

    If you think the cross-currents of the U.S. presidential election constitute societal madness and national decline, revelations about actual fighting between the CIA and the Pentagon through their proxies in war-torn Syria raise more concern about U.S. foreign policy, enough at least to rate comparison with Donald Trump’s suggestions that the NATO alliance is obsolete or nuclear proliferation should be considered by allies such as the Japanese and South Koreans.

    Want to talk crazy? Both the Pentagon and CIA support separate militias. Problem: These well-armed, well-financed militias are fighting each other on the desolate plains between the besieged city of Aleppo and the Turkish border. All this highlights a lack of vision and leadership over implementation of the proper foreign-policy strategy regarding Syria.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...b_9609308.html


    I don't believe for a second that all of this infighting is only taking place overseas with no equivalent struggle at home. If you want to look for the struggle between these two warring factions domestically it shouldn't be too hard to find, as it's been on blast in MSM since last fall when Trump first emerged as the Republican front-runner. This is a real confrontation between globalist and nationalist interests, and a lot is on the line with this one.

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    While looking atm like a lose lose situation, I exspect something totally out of nowHere, if not by 26th, soon after, something to really chew on, really annoying or really really, with tptW.

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    Bsbray thank you for your above article. The first thing that struck me was the word 'chaotic' . . . This will become the norm and actually
    already has.

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    +1 bsbray and blufire for AOW quote above.

    I don't think it a stretch that BLM is affiliated with one of the factions and the police force the other. They may be "civil" organizations but they certainly are very politically connected.

    To give that perspective, BLM has paid protesters in their ranks who fly to whichever city they are needed. That type of financial backing looks very very suspicious when you then have people like Obama going out to the funeral service of Dallas Police killed in the line of duty making a speech basically blaming them for deaths in their ranks.

    Indeed it is only because of Obamas remarks in recent days that infighting between CIA and Pentagon backed rebels may reasonably raise concerns of having a domestic parallel. As they seek to entrench their positions in the fight with the other, they leave no stone unturned. Escalation. There is no neutral zone.

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    Who needs Tina Fey...


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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    While looking atm like a lose lose situation, I exspect something totally out of nowHere, if not by 26th, soon after, something to really chew on, really annoying or really really, with tptW.
    I don't see the situation as "lose lose" at all, but I agree that we are going to see some big things take us by surprise this summer and fall.

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    Who needs Tina Fey...
    In Melania's own words she said that she wrote the speech "with as little help as possible." The plagiarized parts make up about 7% of the total speech, meaning 93% of it was original. Either this is another publicity stunt from the Trump campaign (and I would not rule that out) or else someone sabotaged the speech intentionally. But I don't think it was an accident, either way.

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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post

    In Melania's own words she said that she wrote the speech "with as little help as possible."
    She also said she read it over once. Who is going to write a speech to about their husband, who is about to get the nomination for President of the USA, and read it over only once? It is probably the most important speech of her lifetime, and she reads it just once? That tells me that she did not write it at all. Someone else wrote it, and she read it over once to okay it, makes more sense.

    So, then she LIED about writing it own her own.

    The plagiarized parts make up about 7% of the total speech, meaning 93% of it was original. Either this is another publicity stunt from the Trump campaign (and I would not rule that out) or else someone sabotaged the speech intentionally. But I don't think it was an accident, either way.
    As I said earlier in the post on the previous page...

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    It seems to me as though they were set up. My question is, who set them up?
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    http://www.aol.com/article/2016/07/2...says/21435974/

    Well this is enlightening, on behalf of dad, Trump's son offered Kasich the VP spot and told him he would be in charge of BOTH DOMESTIC and FOREIGN policy! WTF is left???

    So what the hell would Donald be in charge of? He would unload all the domestic and foreign policy responsibility onto Kasich so he could go off and do a freakin' Presidential reality TV show???

    OMG

    According to a New York Times Magazine report on Wednesday, a senior adviser to Kasich spoke with Donald Trump Jr., the Republican nominee's eldest son, a few weeks after the Ohio governor suspended his presidential campaign and left Trump the last candidate standing in the GOP race.

    The adviser said Donald Jr. offered Kasich a place on the ticket, and noted that his father's running mate would be in charge of both domestic and foreign policy, according to the Times.

    When the adviser asked what that would leave for President Trump, Donald Jr. reportedly replied, "Making America great again."

    A Trump source denied to CNN that Kasich was offered such an opportunity but simultaneously confirmed he was vetted.

    "His vetting read like a trashy novel," the source said.

    Kasich, who was the last of 16 GOP rivals dispatched by Trump on his way to the nomination despite winning just his home state of Ohio, has remained resistant to Trump. While he has not ruled out eventually supporting his former rival in November, Kasich has said he finds Trump's rhetoric and some of his policy proposals abhorrent.

    His disdain was not, however, enough to strike him from Trump's wish list of vice presidential candidates, according to the Times.

    "Kasich ... was viewed with wistfulness by the Trump team as the perfect choice, but for the likelihood that he would be a prickly subordinate (as well as the nettlesome detail that Kasich seemed to have no interest whatsoever in the job)," Wednesday's report notes.

    "But Kasich effectively removed himself from the list by telling Trump in a phone conversation at the end of May that a joint ticket would be like two corporations with completely different philosophies and styles trying to merge," the story adds.

    Nor would Kasich offer Trump his endorsement ahead of the convention. John Weaver, the chief strategist for Kasich's campaign, called Trump's campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, on July 4 to inform him no endorsement was forthcoming, according to the Times.

    As the chief executive of the state hosting the Republican National Convention, Kasich was expected to take a prominent role running the show in Cleveland. Instead, he has made appearances around the city – meeting with the state delegation and headlining a reception at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame – but has visibly avoided official convention events, drawing criticism from Trump's campaign.
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    The sad state of affairs is there are two other choices for the USA to make. An Independent candidate and a Green Party one. For those who want a woman Jill Stein is the candidate of the Green Party. She is a doctor and I have heard her use very wholistic terms with regards to a sick nation. So, the ugly choice of the two candidates is a self imposed one. It is a lack of consciousness and will that are creating the reality we face.

    The global controllers (cabal) , or GC, are organized. We, the people, are disorganized rabble. Our behavior only feeds the contempt that the GC feels for us. We legitimize their view of us.

    If Bernie's 'come from behind' move is a failure, the other two options will not even be on the radar of the majority of voters.
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    Quote Originally posted by lift the veil View Post
    http://www.aol.com/article/2016/07/2...says/21435974/

    Well this is enlightening, on behalf of dad, Trump's son offered Kasich the VP spot and told him he would be in charge of BOTH DOMESTIC and FOREIGN policy! WTF is left???

    So what the hell would Donald be in charge of? He would unload all the domestic and foreign policy responsibility onto Kasich so he could go off and do a freakin' Presidential reality TV show???

    OMG
    This "OMG" reaction is exactly what the Trump campaign is aiming for.

    Here are some excerpts from his 1987 bestseller The Art of the Deal:

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    Pay attention to the parts someone has underlined in particular. Meditate on that for a while and you will understand a lot about the unconventional tactics of the Trump campaign. Like I said, the "omg" reaction is what he wants, because then he gets tons of free media coverage.

    And think about this: the more he talks about what he will do as president, and the more the media covers it (whether positively or negatively), the more he is making people think of him in the position of president. The media has been ridiculing and deriding Trump ever since he first announced his candidacy.

    • At first the media was saying it was a publicity stunt and he would never file the official paperwork.
    • Then they said no one would take him seriously and actually vote for him in the primaries.
    • Then they kept saying, before the beginning of the primary season (while there were over 15 candidates running) that his percentages in the polls had reached their ceiling and his numbers would only drop from there.
    • Then they said that he wasn't actually going to win any states during the primary season.
    • Then they said it was extremely unlikely that he would win enough votes to become the Republican nominee.
    • Then they said it was possible that he might get enough votes, but probably not, and it would probably be a contested convention and the delegates would obviously choose someone else as candidate. Even names like Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney, who weren't even officially running, were being floated to replace Trump once Jeb Bush dropped out.
    • Finally he secured enough votes for the nomination and then the media was basically celebrating Clinton's presidency, because Trump could never beat her.
    • Now he is within only a few points of her in national polls.


    Notice that during this whole time, the media has been completely absorbed with Donald Trump, giving him millions of dollars of free advertizing and neglecting all the establishment candidates, just exactly because of the type of article that you are reacting to. And he explains the tactic very clearly in his book like I posted above.

    He wrote the book explaining all of this in 1987. I'd say during this campaign he has only upped his game that much more, and given where he's at now, compared with where he was expected to be last year, I'd say it's working wonders for him. You can't say that he doesn't know how to get results.

    The real show that Trump has put on thus far was during the Republican debates. He made such a fool of Jeb Bush (who I think was supposed to be the establishment choice for Republican nominee, if only to lose to Clinton -- the media was propping him up as such at least as early as around January of last year), so repeatedly, that I almost felt sorry for Jeb, until I remembered that he comes from a family of sociopaths. Just wait until the general election debates. You aren't going to want to miss those.
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    WTH are you talking about?

    Did you completely miss the point that TRUMP really doesn't want to be president. I knew it all along, that this was just a friggin' joke to him. He just wants to see if he can win the Presidential Beauty Contest.

    He wants the title, but not the responsibility and will just callously outsource the job to someone else to handle while he takes the credit for their work. He will drive around in the limo and make appearances where he can continue to spout his drivel. All along, he will be the PR person and PROMOTE HIS OWN BRAND to make money. That is all this has ever been is a big advertising junket for him to sell his TRUMP merchandise, which is made overseas.

    That is just like the book you reference above. HE DID NOT WRITE IT. A ghostwriter did and now Don the Con takes credit for it. Now he wants to do the same with the PRESIDENCY of the USA, outsource the job. WTF!!!

    Tony Schwartz, the ghostwriter makes an important point about how this con man operates.

    Trump, facing a crowd that had gathered in the lobby of Trump Tower, on Fifth Avenue, laid out his qualifications, saying, “We need a leader that wrote ‘The Art of the Deal.’ ” If that was so, Schwartz thought, then he, not Trump, should be running. Schwartz dashed off a tweet: “Many thanks Donald Trump for suggesting I run for President, based on the fact that I wrote ‘The Art of the Deal.’
    PEOPLE HAVE GONE INSANE IF THEY BELIEVE IN THIS CON MAN.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...iter-tells-all

    DONALD TRUMP’S GHOSTWRITER TELLS ALL
    “The Art of the Deal” made America see Trump as a charmer with an unfailing knack for business. Tony Schwartz helped create that myth—and regrets it.

    Last June, as dusk fell outside Tony Schwartz’s sprawling house, on a leafy back road in Riverdale, New York, he pulled out his laptop and caught up with the day’s big news: Donald J. Trump had declared his candidacy for President. As Schwartz watched a video of the speech, he began to feel personally implicated.

    Trump, facing a crowd that had gathered in the lobby of Trump Tower, on Fifth Avenue, laid out his qualifications, saying, “We need a leader that wrote ‘The Art of the Deal.’ ” If that was so, Schwartz thought, then he, not Trump, should be running. Schwartz dashed off a tweet: “Many thanks Donald Trump for suggesting I run for President, based on the fact that I wrote ‘The Art of the Deal.’ ”

    Schwartz had ghostwritten Trump’s 1987 breakthrough memoir, earning a joint byline on the cover, half of the book’s five-hundred-thousand-dollar advance, and half of the royalties. The book was a phenomenal success, spending forty-eight weeks on the Times best-seller list, thirteen of them at No. 1. More than a million copies have been bought, generating several million dollars in royalties. The book expanded Trump’s renown far beyond New York City, making him an emblem of the successful tycoon. Edward Kosner, the former editor and publisher of New York, where Schwartz worked as a writer at the time, says, “Tony created Trump. He’s Dr. Frankenstein.”

    Starting in late 1985, Schwartz spent eighteen months with Trump—camping out in his office, joining him on his helicopter, tagging along at meetings, and spending weekends with him at his Manhattan apartment and his Florida estate. During that period, Schwartz felt, he had got to know him better than almost anyone else outside the Trump family. Until Schwartz posted the tweet, though, he had not spoken publicly about Trump for decades. It had never been his ambition to be a ghostwriter, and he had been glad to move on. But, as he watched a replay of the new candidate holding forth for forty-five minutes, he noticed something strange: over the decades, Trump appeared to have convinced himself that he had written the book. Schwartz recalls thinking, “If he could lie about that on Day One—when it was so easily refuted—he is likely to lie about anything.”

    for the rest of the article go here....http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...iter-tells-all
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    This is a great analysis, bsbray. He may really outperform Hillary when it comes to debate time. Incredible entertainment and ratings.

    The question for me remains, what happens when he becomes president? How is he going to run the country?

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    Trump is gong to run the country like he does his business empire.

    He will surround himself with the best of the best to do each job. An attribute of successful people is wise delegation and strong calculated leadership. Trump has those qualities in spades.

    He is a business man than will use the political stupidity to his advantage. . . He already has.

    The 'globalist' see this and acknowledge he is a very valuable 'tool' to move globalization of our planet forward even more quickly.

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