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    I believe you are most likely correct Fred.

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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    America is not "respected" abroad, it is feared.
    I'm not sure it's even feared as much as it's being disliked these days.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I'm not sure it's even feared as much as it's being disliked these days.
    Righto mate, we can certainly add disliked to the list. Perhaps it depends on how it's looked at. Were I in Finland I wouldn't be fearing that big black bird of prey so much because we're in good standing with it; but were I in say Iran, Syria or Venezuela for instance, there would be fear along with the dislike just for what that bird can do to me economically, much less militarily.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I'm not sure it's even feared as much as it's being disliked these days.

    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    One of the Trumpsters latest achievements:
    https://www.theguardian.com/business...n-currency-war

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    One of the Trumpsters latest achievements:
    https://www.theguardian.com/business...n-currency-war
    What's the point here? What are you trying to say? Do you know why the Dow Jones Industrial average of 30 stocks fell over 700 points yesterday? Do you know why it has risen since the close on November 8, 2016 from 18,333 to the current level of 25,977 (as of this moment) which is an increase of 41.7% in 2.5 years?

    Wind, I remember when I saw a post of yours and read it and then felt an upward movement in my spirit and that this was with every post you made. What happened to that guy? Where did he go? What true spiritual progress do we make if all it takes is for the political landscape to shift and we descend into wasting our time in tit for tat BS? Seriously. I really want to know.

    I am on the edge here now... perhaps its time I stop exposing myself to such frustration generated by my own fault in having false expectations.... I just remember when we all seemed to have that ability to rise above this type of expression. Damn, I am really really frustrated.
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    Trump n Qect have done an xlent job of getting deep into heavy poo including helping others check their sewer lines, imo.

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    I would make no claim at all to financial expertise but the Dow jumped from 8 to 18, 000 in the years between 2008 and 2016 that's a 125 percent jump. It has risen 38 percent since but how much higher can it go or at a minimum stay stable...I'm betting bookmakers in Vegas are giving odds. It should be noted that the 38 percent jump started almost immediately after Trump was elected. The stock value of private prisons alone jumped by 50 percent. So the corporatists or offshorers (by any other name would be as stinky) knew they could depend on the full support of a Trump presidency.

    All that in the vein of "Do you really wanna go there?!" I'm thinking the Dow represents corporate success. Is that what this is all about, is this what the fight is about? A big part of the problem is that many people are convinced that they understand what the hell is going on...my ex-wife was an outstanding example of that, but they don't have a clue. Reading elevated platitudes does nothing to raise one's level of wisdom...we have to LIVE and BREATHE knowledge and experience everyday of our existence for which those that are very lucky wisdom will develop. Can't we really just look around and see what tha' f*ck is going on?
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    Quote Originally posted by Sammy View Post
    Wind, I remember when I saw a post of yours and read it and then felt an upward movement in my spirit and that this was with every post you made. What happened to that guy? Where did he go? What true spiritual progress do we make if all it takes is for the political landscape to shift and we descend into wasting our time in tit for tat BS? Seriously. I really want to know.
    That guy is still here, but I too can get frustrated. I seek harmony and balance in my daily life, but I can't close my eyes from the suffering that I see in the world and I'm just not so enlightened yet to brush it all off. I also have a sense of dry, cynical humor. Maybe I shouldn't comment anything on political things, but sometimes I just feel compelled to point out some things. Maybe I just had enough with that right wing mania and Q-thing that I felt the need to speak out. Btw. Antifa is garbage too.

    I'm not actually anti Trump even though I don't really like him, I don't think politics will actually solve any real issues that humanity is facing. Why do I comment? Well, because I actually still give a damn. I am worried about the direction we are heading towards, it seems that people are getting more polarized - especially in the US. Trump ain't helping with that buddy, he is helping with making the world more chaotic.

    I want to make one thing very clear and I've been saying it since November 2016. When Trump got elected I was relieved, in fact I was very happy. I was happy because that meant that the other person who was meant to get to lead the modern world didn't and I thank God for that. My happiness didn't last very long though as I started to see what kind of actions Donaldo actually started doing. I think it's just sad and pathetic that people are looking for "a great political leader" to save them instead themselves taking responsibilities for their own lives, their own home and their own society.

    Now society is just full of apathy and hate and it's going to get even more ugly. It's not hopeless though as there are many caring people with love in their hearts and I'd like to think that I'm one of those people. I might get cynical and pessimistic from time to time, but I will never give in to hate.
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    Quote Originally posted by Sammy View Post
    What's the point here? What are you trying to say? Do you know why the Dow Jones Industrial average of 30 stocks fell over 700 points yesterday? Do you know why it has risen since the close on November 8, 2016 from 18,333 to the current level of 25,977 (as of this moment) which is an increase of 41.7% in 2.5 years?

    Wind, I remember when I saw a post of yours and read it and then felt an upward movement in my spirit and that this was with every post you made. What happened to that guy? Where did he go? What true spiritual progress do we make if all it takes is for the political landscape to shift and we descend into wasting our time in tit for tat BS? Seriously. I really want to know.

    I am on the edge here now... perhaps its time I stop exposing myself to such frustration generated by my own fault in having false expectations.... I just remember when we all seemed to have that ability to rise above this type of expression. Damn, I am really really frustrated.
    We have economic bubbles. The concern during the Obama Administration was real and still exists. A strong stock market does not mean a strong economy. We have skyrocketing debt and deficits and our trade is getting messed up.

    Plus there's the whole issue of automation which leads to jobs loss, and lots of personal debt. People are working multiple jobs, often without health care, and have little savings.

    The drum banging of 'strong economy' is just a bunch of banging to me.

    We will have another crash which the American people - not the bankers or rich families - will have to pay for just like at the end of the Bush Administration. It'll happen when the bubble(s) pop(s).

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    Quote Originally posted by Sammy View Post
    What's the point here? What are you trying to say? Do you know why the Dow Jones Industrial average of 30 stocks fell over 700 points yesterday? Do you know why it has risen since the close on November 8, 2016 from 18,333 to the current level of 25,977 (as of this moment) which is an increase of 41.7% in 2.5 years?

    Wind, I remember when I saw a post of yours and read it and then felt an upward movement in my spirit and that this was with every post you made. What happened to that guy? Where did he go? What true spiritual progress do we make if all it takes is for the political landscape to shift and we descend into wasting our time in tit for tat BS? Seriously. I really want to know.

    I am on the edge here now... perhaps its time I stop exposing myself to such frustration generated by my own fault in having false expectations.... I just remember when we all seemed to have that ability to rise above this type of expression. Damn, I am really really frustrated.
    To Wind:

    I apologize that I reacted to your post the way I did. I feel bad. Here's why...

    I get that so many of us are frustrated. My post was a knee-jerk reaction of my own frustration. I am so, so sick that so many of us have allowed this type of tripe to consume us because so much of what I was inspired by hardly ever hits these forum pages anymore. But I realize that just because I am sick of it today doesn't change the fact that when I left these forums two years ago, I was caught up in it all and quite passionately. So what I am saying is I was wrong to react about a human being being human when I am a human being who has been far worse (and perhaps at times may still be).

    I went over to PA and read some of your older posts on Chris's thread. Thank you for those, they remain timeless. Forgive me too for when I dive into the fray, please.

    EDIT ADDED: I just read your post #1509 after I posted this post.
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    It's okay Sammy, I know you mean well.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    It's okay Sammy, I know you mean well.
    Ditto.
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    Feel if one is living in nature, tech data free, one would n could remain balanced most of time, you doing well Wind, u2 Sammy.

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