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    The U.S. Pentagon's 2013 Secret Revolt Against Obama

    Here's something light, cheery and chilling to enhance your day...

    Exposed in a recent book by investigative journalist, Seymour Hersh,
    in 2013 the Pentagon's top brass secretly and actively fought
    the Obama administration's covert backing of islamic militant jihadists.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1zRapiDSoo


    This video spells out the specific ways the Pentagon fought to counter Obama's misguided war plans,
    including the U.S. Military's secret alliances with Russia and Syria.

    This is bona fide, incredible stuff.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3FYnakyYWg


    This accounting exposes a near US military coop. It has gotten that bad.
    After the Obama admin. caught wind of this, they removed and replaced all the 'disloyal' military brass.

    Prediction: History will obsess over Obama's motives and reasoning, much like Adolf's march to infamy.

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    The top US military leaders have been chafing against Democratic Presidents since 1992. Multiple generals have made incendiary statements and been replaced.

    If the US military takes over, be prepared for outright Nazi rule vs. "covert" Nazi rule. Especially if the top guys are Air Force.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    The top US military leaders have been chafing against Democratic Presidents since 1992. Multiple generals have made incendiary statements and been replaced.

    If the US military takes over, be prepared for outright Nazi rule vs. "covert" Nazi rule. Especially if the top guys are Air Force.
    There's more going on than just a covert Nazi rule — by which I understand that you're referring to the secret ideologies of certain individuals within the US government.

    The United States of America are, and have for a long time already been, a de facto fascist regime. Not that I mean to throw myself up as the world's greatest political analyst, but if you're interested, then you can read my factual analysis here, and more recently, here, as well as bsbray's confirming analysis here.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    There's more going on than just a covert Nazi rule — by which I understand that you're referring to the secret ideologies of certain individuals within the US government.

    The United States of America are, and have for a long time already been, a de facto fascist regime. Not that I mean to throw myself up as the world's greatest political analyst, but if you're interested, then you can read my factual analysis here, and more recently, here, as well as bsbray's confirming analysis here.
    Yes, that is what I was alluding to.

    Having worked with the US military for 30+ years, that is exactly what you will get, and they think is is good for you.

    In their world, civilians are lesser beings as they live outside a morally superior system. Sort of like looking down at your low IQ cousin.

    My take with modifications:

    Nationalism and extreme patriotism. Emphasis on citizenship and "serving one's nation".
    Strong emphasis on militarism and police forces. A career in the military grants one a higher social status. <--- extremely important, i.e. the "warrior class"
    Overt surveillance, in combination with xenophobia and paranoia.
    Extreme corporatism and the outsourcing of police and military tasks and privileges to private corporations. <--- the military do NOT like corporate folks, termed "scumbags"
    Propaganda, severe indoctrination, censorship and "thought policing".
    Political lobbyists and politicians who are sponsored by (or otherwise involved with) the corporate world. <--- the military do NOT like politicians, termed "whores"

    Read the book: Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein and you will get a good idea of what I am alluding to.
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    wow. how dismal and dark.

    I don't believe it is democrats against republicans.

    the pentagon moved on what it saw as a clear and present danger.
    we'll leave the speculation as to the 'whys' for others to figure out in history books.

    all this other paranoid fascist stuff is just that, opinionized stuff.

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    Quote Originally posted by jimmer View Post
    wow. how dismal and dark.

    I don't believe it is democrats against republicans.

    the pentagon moved on what it saw as a clear and present danger.
    we'll leave the speculation as to the 'whys' for others to figure out in history books.

    all this other paranoid fascist stuff is just that, opinionized stuff.
    What? When you live in a structured, organized hierarchy with clear rules things are good.

    You just haven't the correct attitude. But don't worry, "we'll" correct it by sending you to a re-education camp.

    When you "get your mind right" it all fits.

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    Quote Originally posted by jimmer View Post
    I don't believe it is democrats against republicans.
    I never said it was, jimmer. Both parties are controlled by the same corporations. There's a reason as to why other parties are labelled Independent, you know.

    Quote Originally posted by jimmer View Post
    all this other paranoid fascist stuff is just that, opinionized stuff.
    Have you read the three analyses that I've linked to in my previous post, jimmer? And if you have read them, can you refute them?

    If you didn't (and won't) read them, then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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    trump is the true maverick.

    party affiliation isn't important to him.
    it's all about the deal, the job that needs to be done.
    this is a unique time in US political history.

    he's catching grief from both sides. how refreshing...

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    Quote Originally posted by jimmer View Post
    trump is the true maverick.

    party affiliation isn't important to him.
    it's all about the deal, the job that needs to be done.
    this is a unique time in US political history.

    he's catching grief from both sides. how refreshing...
    Trump is not outside the system, he is an important player in the kabuki dance.

    Watch this spot.

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    This is a very important topic, that is still a major force in world events, and something that we will be hearing more about in the future.

    What the US military (Pentagon) is doing is ongoing and it doesn't look like something to be depressed about. I really don't think they are promoting fascism, or else they would be supporting Obama's policies and ratcheting up war tensions to justify further authoritarianism. The opposite is what is unfolding. The US military, unlike the international cabal of bankers, oil cartels and intelligence interests connected to them (who are all also tied to Nazi Germany of the 1930s and 40s), is actually interested in preserving the United States as a functioning and stable political entity. If the US continues along the self-destructive path, then the US military infrastructure itself would also be destroyed (and was already being severely stripped back due to economic problems), and I think that this is their most obvious motivation to back off from international entanglements and also to seize control of the Federal Reserve (an ongoing, multi-faction struggle that includes China).

    Several months ago, while the Obama regime was still threatening Russia over their reaction to the US-led coup in Ukraine, there were stories online that the CIA headquarters in Langley was locked down, with the parking lot blocked off. This was after a general falling out in Europe about what to do about this situation, and what happened at the CIA was interpreted by some as a Pentagon raid related to CIA-backed activities in Ukraine. One thing for sure is that the CIA HQ being locked down is certainly not a normal event, but media coverage was virtually non-existent.

    John McCain was in the news a couple of months ago complaining that Russia was destroying the CIA-backed "moderate rebels" in Syria with its air strikes. The Pentagon did nothing, and continues to do nothing to pressure Russia to stop its airstrikes. In fact, the Pentagon pulled out US missile batteries in Turkey ahead of Russia's arrival and also removed its aircraft carriers from the Persian Gulf. This should be a good sign in anyone's book, except the "moderate rebels" who are in reality no different than ISIS or al Qaeda and would install a government similar to Saudi Arabia's in Syria if they were successful. The Pentagon is allowing the CIA-backed terrorist factions to be destroyed.


    All of this definitely deserves following and I have been saying for months that the Pentagon is staging a coup in the US right now, or a counter-coup after the coup d'état solidified by September 11th, 2001. It is still a work in progress, seeming to involve a lot of backstabbing, Obama regularly changing his position on important policy issues (as if his puppetmasters are alternating), and big international events either being ignored by the media or painted over as being about something else.
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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    All of this definitely deserves following and I have been saying for months that the Pentagon is staging a coup in the US right now, or a counter-coup after the coup d'état solidified by September 11th, 2001. It is still a work in progress, seeming to involve a lot of backstabbing, Obama regularly changing his position on important policy issues (as if his puppetmasters are alternating), and big international events either being ignored by the media or painted over as being about something else.
    insightful and well said, bsbray.

    so, ObamaCo. didn't successfully neuter the military after the 2013 coop?
    lots of heads were chopped...

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    I never said it was, jimmer. Both parties are controlled by the same corporations. There's a reason as to why other parties are labelled Independent, you know.

    Have you read the three analyses that I've linked to in my previous post, jimmer? And if you have read them, can you refute them?

    If you didn't (and won't) read them, then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
    okay, I read all of your linked content. well written, thoughtful, including many facts with you interpretation of those facts, for instance:

    Hitler's Nazism wasn't simply fascism. it was his own hybrid: fascism (domestic militarism) + national socialism (state control of the corporations, economy).

    that's what is happening in the US now, or at least the precursors have been laid.

    we've all seen this taking place under the obama regime. and thus, the US military's secret revolt...

    we do live in interesting times.

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    Quote Originally posted by jimmer View Post
    insightful and well said, bsbray.

    so, ObamaCo. didn't successfully neuter the military after the 2013 coop?
    lots of heads were chopped...
    Dude, the thing about a military hierarchy is: take out the "top" guy and there is another "top" guy to take his place. A military force is built to withstand casualties in "warfare," there is always another well trained guy to replace the person above him.

    Another thing, there is no one military: Air force, Army, Navy and to some extent Marine Corps, all with differing philosophies, and they do not trust each other. In peaceful times, they fight amongst each other for money and it is bitter rivalries.
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    Quote Originally posted by jimmer View Post
    wow. how dismal and dark.

    I don't believe it is democrats against republicans.

    the pentagon moved on what it saw as a clear and present danger.
    we'll leave the speculation as to the 'whys' for others to figure out in history books.

    all this other paranoid fascist stuff is just that, opinionized stuff.
    Dark? Dude, how about a "reality" that has malevolent ETs, magic works, evil a**holes can see the future and have changed the past, Satanic blood-rituals are commonplace (I know this from a first hand account), the media is entirely "cooked," and there are secret societies with all sorts of agendas, mostly "evil" at work. Researchers are routinely "taken out" and to boot, "humanity" has weapons that can wipe us all out. Now THIS is dark.

    A political process that is a kabuki ritual is very small potatoes, IMO.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    Dark? Dude, how about a "reality" that has malevolent ETs, magic works, evil a**holes can see the future and have changed the past, Satanic blood-rituals are commonplace (I know this from a first hand account), the media is entirely "cooked," and there are secret societies with all sorts of agendas, mostly "evil" at work. Researchers are routinely "taken out" and to boot, "humanity" has weapons that can wipe us all out. Now THIS is dark.

    A political process that is a kabuki ritual is very small potatoes, IMO.
    like I said, opaque and dark.

    dude, it's one thing to actually know it all and quite another to think you know it all.
    so, please relax and enjoy the holiday season.

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