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    What would do more damage?

    What would do more damage if the masses found out about these below.

    1 The universal cover up of the UFO phenomenon by our world governments .

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    2 The universal cover up of how our governments are complicit in the destabilizing the middle east and creating all these jihadist groups by funding them,training them and giving them weapons.

    Now if we picked number 1 i think that would have more of an effect on the middle east than anywhere else.
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    I pick #3 -- we still teeter on a ball of confusion.


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    Quote Originally posted by jimmer View Post
    I pick #3 -- we still teeter on a ball of confusion.

    lol
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    I think the UFO thing would have more far-reaching consequences. But hopefully all of it will have to be acknowledged from some sort of official channel sooner or later, and dealt with.

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    I vote for #2 if it includes 911 was a false flag especially if it shows it was run by W's Nazi freaks.

    I really think more strings are connected to 911 than anything else and it will bust the people's trust in the gov't is here to help.

    50% of the population suspect UFOs are "real" anyway.

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    I think that more than we are led to believe understand and know that 1 & 2 are true.

    Here is where the rub of why there will be no disclosure of either lies IMHO. People prefer to feel helpless versus powerful as being empowered means they have to stand up and take risks!!

    Risk -being different and saying so, by voicing one's own truth. (labelled a weirdo)

    Risk -being ostracized and or abandoned by those we love and associate with. (refuse to agree with materialism)

    Risk -being alone and standing in one's own space no matter the cost. (sovereignty can be scary due to full personal responsibility and personal integrity and vulnerability takes strength and courage to go it alone)

    Risk -being made fun of and belittled. (no herd think or following)

    Risk -being kind and loving even in the face of the opposite.

    Risk -not only looking at all the corruption honestly in the world but also looking at your own good, bad and ugly daily and continuing the non-stop work of spirit integration versus duality.

    Risk -being HEART CENTERED versus BRAIN ACTIVATED and feeling your way through life as we are energy/form and engulfed, supported and nudged by source through HEART INTELLIGENCE...... not EGO feeding but by what some call GUT FEELING.

    We have become an easy-peasy civilization and this mindset is literally killing our species and that is a reality that is doing more damage than number 1 or 2 could ever do should either become a fact of life.
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    The sleepsheeps don't bother.
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    The TOT seekers ramble a little bit in TOT.
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    Get excited as both have already happened plus 9\11 conspiracy truth, all is moving along IMO perfectly. The collective now has won, once again, Get Excited.

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    The TOT seekers ramble a little bit in TOT.
    I think they bring a wealth of information to the table and i thank all members for that.I would also not class them as tot seekers
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    Lol I feel we are found lol

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    Quote Originally posted by One
    number 1 i think that would have more of an effect on the middle east than anywhere else.
    Like the possibility to unite humanity.

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    .....................

    Perhaps the more profound truth and chaos would be created at the point the masses find out that it is not the world governments that are doing the ‘covering up’.

    The world governments and leaders are more of a pawn in this than the masses are . . . . .

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    My vote lies on number 2. Most have NO clue the govs could not do anything like that....UFOs? that has been out there longer than your govs betrayal of the masses for Big $$ and to keep "them" involved within Big business and CONTROL.
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    At this point I am unable to decide between the two options. Both hold the chance for change and the chance for continued apathy.

    Would you be willing to provide details on what you see as the effect #1 would have on the middle east? The thought intrigues me.

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    Would you be willing to provide details on what you see as the effect #1 would have on the middle east? The thought intrigues me.
    Nations like America, UK or even Canada the masses are starting to believe there is something else.In some of these countries over half the population will believe in UFO'S.

    Now a friend of my dad says this is not the case in the middle east.Its all about relegion and this topic is not even talked about and thats why i think it would have more implications for the middle east than for us.

    But then again just think about it the whole world being told you have been believing in false gods that dont even exist and that tptb just added them to the txt books to divide the masses.I dont think our governments will admit to that anytime soon.
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