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    thanks elen.

    so, ancient canals were created over ley lines, both for transportation needs and the transference of energy, like a network of pipelines.
    very interesting, indeed.

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    lcam, nicely perceived. From my point of view, electricity/electrical flow patterns and their relationship to ley lines is one of hmm, 'interdimensional reflection'...as I see/feel that there is a template level of this planet, let's say for simplicity's sake in the fifth dimension, composed of finer frequency 'substance' than electricity, that would tend to be seen as 'ethereal' from a 3D viewpoint, which the fourth dimension contains as what is termed the 'etheric blueprint' of the planet, which is materialized into a denser tangible substance (such as electrical currents) in the third dimensional strata. From a higher dimensional view, these are all interconnected, always.

    The model you're proposing, with reference to an electrical generating point at the magnetic South Pole an passing around/within the surface of the planet, as a model for ley lines, is combining the electric and magnetic flows, which together generate the electromagnetic field as so:



    Okay, what happens if you shift that point of generation to the centre of the Earth rather than the bottom (or top) pole? 'As above, so below, but through the centre is the flow.' So you get something a bit like this plasma ball:



    Ley lines - channels of chi/prana/lifeforce - don't suddenly stop at the edges of continents and land masses, they are continuous and circulating the globe, just under the surface. If you consider a central generator at the centre of the Earth in a higher dimension, that is then circulating that chi outward in all directions to 'hubs' in/under certain geographical features that then continue to flow the chi out through a network of interlacing lifeforce rivers and tributaries, that are constantly being 'topped up' from the centre - to which the chi lines fold back inward, returning chi to the centre to be 'refreshed'. Think of the heart pumping out blood through the arteries, regathering it through the veins to oxygenate it again - not exactly like that, but similar.
    Now add in another level, the magnetic axis of the Earth, north to south poles, and see this axis as a channel through which a very 'ethereal' energy is circulating constantly - one flow going up the central axis, then curving out around the planet's electromagnetic field/envelope, re-entering at the south, going upward etc....and simultaneously, another equal flow going north to south down the channel of the axis, out the bottom, up and around the electromagnetic envelope, in again at the top. This is the natural equilibrium of the Earth's torus field, that is also interacting with the ley lines and part of the way their formation is organized.



    Does this resonate for you?

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    jimmer, there could be many watercourses that follow ley lines...although there are other geographic influences on the paths of waterways....

    In the Aboriginal Dreaming myths, songlines (ley lines) and waterways were formed by different means. There are many variations among the tribes, but a core story is that rivers and lakes were formed by the Rainbow Serpent, that came out of the the centre of the Earth onto the surface, and wherever it meandered or lay on the earth, became the places that filled with water. From a metaphysical viewpoint, the Rainbow Serpent here represents the kundalini - the rising and spiralling helix (reminds me of your Venus photos too, lcam) of chi/lifeforce energy. The Rainbow Serpent is often called 'she' in the Dreaming, and water is the feminine/birth/yin element....

    The songlines were formed by the Spirit Beings/Creator Beings/ancestors who walked the earth and created lifeforms, land features etc. Wherever they walked on the ground, the ley lines formed - and the Aboriginal people, as custodians and guardians of the creation, continued to keep the songlines strong and vital by walking along the lines and singing to them...this is partly why they were a nomadic people, and is the ancient meaning of 'going walkabout'. It was to nourish the ley lines and keep the land healthy....to keep the 'songs' of the creator beings alive....
    After they were decimated by the arrival of Europeans, the songlines weakened, some got blocked, and polarities reversed in nodes by dark or mischievous entities (mimi etc)...so those of us who can see/feel the ley lines view the present time as a period of rectifying the Earth's chi flow, and in this part of the world, renewing the very pure ancient energy of Mu.

    Where I live in the hills east of Perth, there is a ley line running north-south under the Darling Range that the Nyoongar tribe used to walk and sing in their continuity of the Dreaming. In their myths, the Waugal (or Wagyl), a big rainbow serpent, lays under this range (the energy of the ley line)...and here is the interlacing connection with water in their Dreaming...because the Waugal when it was awake and moving around, formed all the waterways in this region, including the Swan River, that Perth is built around.

    This is a wooden statue of the Waugal at a place called Yanchep, north of Perth, in what used to be known as the 'Atlantis Marine Park', which I'm sure Elen will appreciate.



    Elen, thank you for the vid link, interesting to see those canals in Florida, and I am sure the ancient Phoenicians, and perhaps the Egyptians, went to the Americas, and indeed much further afield. I may have mentioned earlier in this thread that I know of a lady here who has been to caves in a Pleiadian sacred site in the Kimberley which the public don't have general access to, where there are cave paintings from thousands of years ago of the Wandjina/creator beings of that area, with cuneiform writing around their heads...which my friend made a drawing of and sent to ancient language specialists, who said the closest letterforms they could find was ancient Phoenician.
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    Quote Originally posted by Joanna View Post
    lcam, nicely perceived. From my point of view, electricity/electrical flow patterns and their relationship to ley lines is one of hmm, 'interdimensional reflection'...as I see/feel that there is a template level of this planet, let's say for simplicity's sake in the fifth dimension, composed of finer frequency 'substance' than electricity, that would tend to be seen as 'ethereal' from a 3D viewpoint, which the fourth dimension contains as what is termed the 'etheric blueprint' of the planet, which is materialized into a denser tangible substance (such as electrical currents) in the third dimensional strata. From a higher dimensional view, these are all interconnected, always.
    I think I once shared a diagram depicting Actinic Rays with you right?
    Quote Originally posted by Joanna View Post

    The model you're proposing, with reference to an electrical generating point at the magnetic South Pole an passing around/within the surface of the planet, as a model for ley lines, is combining the electric and magnetic flows, which together generate the electromagnetic field as so:

    That diagram is a dated model of EM as far as I know. A newer model is revealed by David LaPoint in his "bowl shaped magnetic field" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EPlyiW-xGI&t=32m35s). He uses the same model to explain the structure of galaxies if that is of any interest to you, but later it becomes very clear that light shares the structure. I leave the video as plain text because I think it is slightly off topic here.

    Perhaps the magnetic component of the electrical generating point is a moment of Earths magnetic field? Perhaps the electrical current is a planetary phenomena powered by that magnetic fields interaction with the plasmic medium charged by the stellar presence. (I elaborate this at the bottom)

    It is known in electrical engineering that current tends to have highest flow around the peripheral of a conductor; that is to say, if you examine a cross section of a wire as current is flowing, most of the flux will appear around the edges of the cross section. Our planet is no different.

    Quote Originally posted by Joanna View Post
    Okay, what happens if you shift that point of generation to the centre of the Earth rather than the bottom (or top) pole? 'As above, so below, but through the centre is the flow.' So you get something a bit like this plasma ball:

    This phenomena would certainly more acutely resemble the planetary bodies interaction with Actinic Rays (above). Obviously at this higher "dimension" say, an etheric, subatomic or super-plasmic realm, electrical conductivity likely plays an astronomically smaller role. I think we would be more likely to see wave interference patterns rather than lichtenburg type figures.

    Quote Originally posted by Joanna View Post
    Ley lines - channels of chi/prana/lifeforce - don't suddenly stop at the edges of continents and land masses, they are continuous and circulating the globe, just under the surface.
    Exactly.
    Quote Originally posted by Joanna View Post
    If you consider a central generator at the centre of the Earth in a higher dimension, that is then circulating that chi outward in all directions to 'hubs' in/under certain geographical features that then continue to flow the chi out through a network of interlacing lifeforce rivers and tributaries, that are constantly being 'topped up' from the centre - to which the chi lines fold back inward, returning chi to the centre to be 'refreshed'. Think of the heart pumping out blood through the arteries, regathering it through the veins to oxygenate it again - not exactly like that, but similar.
    That is detail I would have never imagined.

    If that is indeed true, then the amount of energy in each pulse of this Actinic ray interaction must be huge, as in astronomical. Say 5 to 10 order of magnitude greater (10^5 to 10^10 ref: John W Keely revelation about how much more dense etheric energy is to atomic and molecular energies). That being so that incredibly small level of electrical conductivity variance at the lower dimensions (atomic, molecular etc) would then come into play as a small portion of that actinic energy falls into the lower dimension.

    Could the breathing also perhaps be analogous to the wave interference patterns occurring at that higher dimension perhaps coinciding with energy currents along the surface of the earth?

    Evidence that Micheal Tellinger revealed support some aspects of these ideas. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8KWp61co1A&t=35m)

    There are ancient (perhaps 100,000 years old) archeological ruins, half buried that are composed of a stone called hornfeld that rings like a bell, all interconnected. These ruins are shaped all sorts of circular patterns that Mr Tellinger says coincides with some aspect of the energetic moment in that particular spot.

    I'm not sure yet if the structures are meant to use the pure Actinic energy as it may interfere with itself, or the portion of that energy that happened to fall into the lower dimension, or both. And reasonably, perhaps both if the interference pattern is a part of the energy transformation process.

    FYI: Some of his interpretations and conclusions, like the participation of the Annunaki is speculative. But I think the solid evidence he presents is interesting to consider in this context.

    Furthermore, those interference patterns could be caused by the specific imperfections in the spherical shape of Earth that was caused by prolonged interaction with the stellar-charged plasma medium that composes the space where earth orbits. (is that unclear?)

    And lastly, energy flowing along surface lei-lines may be electrical in nature, but not necessarily only electrical; there are other levels of energetic connectivity that may easily be considered electrically neutral (neutrino currents for example) but still hold a potential moment of energy.
    Quote Originally posted by Joanna View Post
    Now add in another level, the magnetic axis of the Earth, north to south poles, and see this axis as a channel through which a very 'ethereal' energy is circulating constantly - one flow going up the central axis, then curving out around the planet's electromagnetic field/envelope, re-entering at the south, going upward etc....and simultaneously, another equal flow going north to south down the channel of the axis, out the bottom, up and around the electromagnetic envelope, in again at the top. This is the natural equilibrium of the Earth's torus field, that is also interacting with the ley lines and part of the way their formation is organized.



    Does this resonate for you?
    Yes. It certainly does. I will say though, the magnetic field around earth is interacting with the plasmic medium of space that in turn is charged by stellar activities of our sun. So there is direct interaction happening, the field will be distorted as required for the equilibrium of this interaction to oscillate about some neutral (state or point). Scientists shape the Earths magnetic field as a type of tear drop; their explanation is that solar winds "push" it into that shape.

    And I will say that I have not yet really examined multiple energy dynamics in a meaningful way. My brainstorming exercise above really superficially examined the topic and I was at a loss as to how to further develop the idea until I read your posting.

    Here is another interaction (you can see the Venus interaction superficially above), that is almost an exact opposite to Venus:

    Thunderbolt Projects has an interesting examination of Enceladus (a special moon orbiting Saturn), definitely eye opening. This is very clear evidence that there are energetic interactions between its hosting planet and its icy body. This is one of several examinations made by the EU community that supports the idea that there is local thermodynamic equilibrium between our sun and its planets and subsequently planets to their moons.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTS0Vv3yS6U


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    Thanks Joanna, two very very huge pieces of the puzzle as I see it now fit. The Actinic Rays, and a serious idea about how Mr Tellingers evidence actually fit.
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    Elen, thank you for the vid link, interesting to see those canals in Florida, and I am sure the ancient Phoenicians, and perhaps the Egyptians, went to the Americas, and indeed much further afield. I may have mentioned earlier in this thread that I know of a lady here who has been to caves in a Pleiadian sacred site in the Kimberley which the public don't have general access to, where there are cave paintings from thousands of years ago of the Wandjina/creator beings of that area, with cuneiform writing around their heads...which my friend made a drawing of and sent to ancient language specialists, who said the closest letterforms they could find was ancient Phoenician.
    Thank you for keeping me part of your conversation, Joanna

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    are we aware of david paulides' missing 411 cases?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4W3gffrHCk

    many, if not the majority, of these unexplainable missing cases
    center around water and/or stone. or are we talking about ley lines?

    one of the theories behind these missing cases has to do with the paranormal or the trickster.

    any thoughts as to a connection between ley lines and the paranormal, related to these cases?

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    Elen:

    Empowered or charged water, water that passed though the canal (lei-line) is something that caught my attention. Part of the revelation the second viewer shared. Very curious indeed.

    Thanks for the link.

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    Thoughts on Actinic rays:

    Quote Originally posted by http://www.svpwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=actinic
    Ac*tin"ic (#), a. Of or pertaining to actinism; as, actinic rays.

    The active rays emanating from the sun. [see Celestial Radiation]
    Sunlight is a perfect example.

    There is a very interesting diagram that caught my attention early on:



    The image appears to show energy dynamics in a more general sense, rather than Electro-Magnetic (EM) radiation we commonly associate with light.

    Indeed light is a term that requires a clarification. Our understanding is that it is EM radiation within a specific bandwidth window that our eyes can sense. Perhaps in a more general sense, we can understand infrared and ultraviolet EM radiation to be light as well.

    However those classifications describe luminosity; a term that is quite a bit more specific in a reference to EM radiation.

    Quote Originally posted by Walter Russell @ http://www.svpwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Light
    Light, as man knows light, is but an unstable simulation of the real light of the Universal One?. Man's concept of light is luminosity, an illusion of the universal light of inertia, sustained in its appearance as an illusion of light by the pressures generated through motion. The inner mind of ecstatic man knows the real light and that he is One with light. He is not deceived by its illusion.
    In fact a notion of light having nothing to do with luminosity is very near what Actinic rays are in principle, however the concept requires that we open our common ideas about sunlight and examine the energy phenomena from a first principles type view.

    Our ability to sense light depends on EM radiation and the underlying energies making a "connection" with our sensors, whether those sensors be in our eyes or in our equipment. Just because EM happens to be "easily" sensed does does not mean that other more difficult to sense forms of energy do not coexist. Furthermore the way we choose to observe the way we experience the sensations of this connection effect our perception.

    Quote Originally posted by Tesla @ http://www.svpwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Light
    I am the light, and it is the music. Light fills my six senses? - I see, hear, feel, smell, touch and think. Thinking, for me, is the sixth sense. The light rays are printed notes. One lightning can be the whole sonata; a thousand lightning the show. For this concert I have created a Ball lightning?, which can be heard on the icy peaks of the Himalayas.
    Associating thinking as being a sensation is quite an example of that.

    Quote Originally posted by Walter Russell @ http://www.svpwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Thinking
    An active (polar) principle within Mind originating in the intellect, ego and sense. Thinking is of the lower levels of mental activities having to do with perceived effects and not cause. Sometimes referred to as "Split Mind" thinking as opposed to "Whole Mind" knowing as of the heart. Thinking is of the natural man (sense) and not science or Wisdom.
    Can thinking then indeed be sensations of light upon our mind?

    At the top of svpwiki's page on light we find:

    Quote Originally posted by http://www.svpwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Light
    Compound Interetheric, the substance of Mind...
    Compound Interetheric is a term coined by John W Keely sometime in the late 1800's in a classification of matter and energy. One could describe it as a super super fine plasma where all constituents of the medium are pure rarified energy.

    As that energy condenses into less rarified forms, we eventually reach subatomic particles, then atom, and their following condensates as molecules and then molecular chains. At each stage energy clumps more and more losing aspects of fluidity.

    Lei-lines on earth are passages where energy in several of these phases are known to pass. Not to say necessarily that energy cannot or does not have other fluxes or dynamics.

    Practical usage of lei-line energy?

    I am especially intrigued by the second viewers testimony in the video Elen linked here. The technology described is very similar to a Joe Cell, presumably invented by an Australian Man. An interesting video.

    To summarize, the Joe Cell is a special type of "fuel cell" that produces an energetic moment of potential combustion through a type of electrolytic process.

    In the video Elen shares, the device produces an electrical potential through the use of different metals in the construction of the apparatus. Joe hooks up his device to a 12v car battery.

    What is interesting though, is the bubbling mixture from the Joe Cell is routed through metal tubing over to the top of the engine, then it is stoppered and tied down to some metal part on the engine. The mixture produced does not actually get sucked into the engine, and yet the engine runs. (hence my describing it as an energetic moment of potential combustion). Clearly there is something energetic happening that does not require physical fuel as a transporting medium of energy or for introducing a combustion potential.

    Interestingly, the inventor retrieved the water for his invention from a stream behind his house.

    I pondered the Joe Cell for about 2 to 3 years now, but only upon diving into this notion of Actinic rays, and that treasure Elen shared that it has become apparent to me what is actually happening.

    It is clear to me that the nature of energies passing though these lei-lines is certainly more than just a mere electric current component. In fact, as solar energies "power the earth" even luminous auroral type emissions are present; there must be a whole spectrum of energies that participate.

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    Thank you for your kind words, lcam88. I appreciate the ”Joe Cell”. Yeah, Joe is suffering from delusion! I guess we’re all delusional and proud of it. Somehow this doesn’t feel like something new to me. We’ve just forgotten about it, and you are starting to remember it. This is so interesting! I love the complete transparency and honesty from Joe. He doesn’t pretend to know how it works, but it does! And isn’t it amazing how threatened TPTB is by what they call nonsense?

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    Elen:

    Oh thank you Elen, for such encouragement! Starting is the keyword.

    A brother of mine has actually visited Joe and spent a few weeks or months with the man. In fact, the first time Joe slept out of his own house was on a trip he took with my brother! That is how simple and "rooted" Joe is to his community, the video sort of depicts that simplicity.

    My brother has a very sharp scientific mind and is a keen observer. He characterized Joe as "simply amazing" and "without any real formal education in science".

    Apparently, only Joe can get his device(s) to work.

    Why? Maybe because he simply knows it will work.



    And perhaps also because he doesn't bother to think, theorize or believe it will work...

    But because of threatening circumstances he has lost the will to "play"; he simply doesn't want to do anything anymore.

    Walter Russell has a bit to say about Knowing... But that is a bit off topic here, I think.
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    Joe deserves a thread all by himself, don’t you think, and did your brother manage to understand what Joe was doing? I agree with you, if you think and theorise too much it will get in the way of knowing, and knowing is really exciting, like being alive with the life-force! Such a shame that they managed to “switch his lights off”, but I’m sure that there are many around the world that are ”switched on”. Count yourself in.

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    In terms of a Joe Thread... I don't think the subject will need more than a page or two... And I don't think it will be very useful, unless you have some additional juicy RV technology curiosities.

    My brother did ask, watch and listen. He understood what Joe did and saw results happen but he doesn't _know_ (that word) why things worked, he as a scientist, and he has his theories... The Joe Cell is anything but conventional and so are any theories about it.

    Making it work, is not about understanding how or why it works, but more about simply knowing that it works. Feeling that it works. And maybe even "connecting" with it to start the work. That is the problem I think my brother and everyone else has; they don't
    "empathically" connect enough.

    Another one of the problems he had boils down to reference fundamentals; that Joe's ideas and terminologies have unconventional references. That problem is part of what formal schooling solves for people. A uniform set of references and perhaps a certain uniformity in thinking, whether right or wrong, so that ideas shared by communication are understood in a somewhat uniform way.

    In fact, miscommunication often arises when a word or term is used but people have different ideas about what is meant, likely because of the prejudices and references they may be carrying that is uniquely associated with the word.

    Frequency for example, is commonly understood to be measured in Hertz. But when you listen to a sound of say, 200 hz, you likely hear a tone. But because of limitations of the reference people get from their education about these terms and concepts, many people often have a lot of difficulty get to thinking that frequency may include harmonics and overtones of the base frequency as well, that a frequency may be a very complex sound or signal. They may use the term in a less specific way where context implies something complex, but then they think by analogy rather than a fundamental concept.

    Light is another such word, apparently.

    Lastly, our language limits our thoughts, as we expand our vocabulary, we may also be expanding our ability to think. People invent new words, or reuse old ones when their thoughts require. But then those words only mean as much as can be derived from the context when they are used to everyone else.

    A thread on Joe will likely face a similar problem; the subject matter he is gifted with is very difficult to reference in normal parlance. That is the reason I think an actual thread is not needed; it just wouldn't be as meaningful as I would like.

    I like this thread because, in a way, it has become an "expand your horizon" thread, perhaps much like Joanna's other one. Joe Cell fits here, I think.
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    Yes, upon thought, I agree with you. Here is another link you could have a look at, it's not on lei lines, but equally interesting for you to consider. The Nazca lines in Peru and what a scientist discovered just recently. It's on the Chris Thomas thread and was posted by Anastasia, it thrilled me no end with excitement. Continue reading on...

    http://jandeane81.com/threads/7336-A...#post841944107

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    I'm about 45 minutes into the audio, just as excites as you probably once where.

    The speaker has touched on why and possible uses of the infra-structure. I think he is inflecting his expertise and knowledge associated with "communications" into his interpretation and conclusion of purpose of the fractal array antennas. It may just be indeed communications, but I had a moment where suddenly that purpose seemed superficial.

    Mostly because of the need of a protocol for "signal translations". That is an aspect of our communication technologies, and only presumed to be a requirement. When we speak about telepathy, a form of mind to mind communication, what protocol is thought of initially?

    Consider, Elen, our experience with RV, as elementary and "initial" as it may be, is a type of communication. No need for all the infra-structure and such, especially if the minds are already in tune and used to being connected. Right?

    Furthermore, signal translation and protocol are only required if your design requires them. Our tech requires them because we solved the problems at hand in accordance with our own values and our way of rationalizing (Science). But what if a culture had different values and ways of rationalizing (a sort of Joe Cell type empathy connection).

    Essentially the brain (and heart/circulatory system) can be seen as a type of fractal antenna, it resonates with some fundamental that is present at all levels of existence. Could it be that the basis of the "protocol" used by the Nazca Antenna is consciousness based? IF that idea is entertained, then the device may also be a mode of transportation of sorts. Transports of consciousness? A way of enhancing the connection to transcend the material? (which is what is essentially happening during that energetic moment of combustion potential I went on about previously).

    Suddenly the Inca strategy to hide their secrets may be actually to protect their kin (on a distant world), hitherto unbeknownst to the Spaniards who were out burning their countryside.

    I am not sure if I am inflecting something from me into this posting.
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