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    bsbray, I have to add an anecdote to that post and the scenario you post.

    Back on the 3rd of January 2011, I woke from restless sleep (which is not totally common for me), And even without getting out of bed, opened my laptop and opened the PA webpage. I had never looked at the forum there. I had for a few years or more watched the interviews that were put out. I had belonged to a few other forums prior to that, but not for a while. So, I basically opened up the web page, saw a new interview called, "The Rulers of the World", and applied for forum membership there as I started to watch the video, all rather automatically as if I was being led.
    The profound thing about it was that there were quite a few other new members join up that claimed the same thing. Looking back, it was quite an important period with good lessons to be learned and behaviours to observe.
    The state of the community was feverish, people reading every single letter of every post.
    To this day, I am sure, there was definitely something going on there. Two purposes, one in which the information was a big distraction, but one in which the flipside was enlightening regards how people can react to certain events, even when they are meant to be harder to fool. But I am not entirely sure how that huge wave of people arrived in the same way I did. Like, 'who' was behind it. I prefer to think I am, good. And get 'helped' by 'the good'..

    Anyway. I also agree with Aragorn, thanks for that post. Hopefully the above goes a way to describe still seeing silver linings in the clouds etc. Sometimes I feel I perhaps might come across blunt to some people, I was brought up in a no-nonsense kind of way. But at the end of the day, most people still have my respect for being whoever they are, because each has their part to play, regardless of what part that is, without them there are no lessons.

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    It's amazing to me how BR seems to "remove himself" from the alternative community, how he seems to take no responsibility for CREATING Corey (remember that?) and now he wants people to believe Shane "just emerged" along with him...having he nerve to mention "Those who would be sure to support them in getting their stories out."....as if he wasn't the primary one

    No one wants to mention the most obvious element in the entire pattern is not only his presence, but his bringing these guys all the attention that is then projected on to their own egos. Not that they don't have easily used egos, cuz they do...but it's just bizarre that we're learning lessons and applying discernment now that should have been about 4 celebrities ago...
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    In the end, we can only look within ourselves for the answer to all of humanity's problems. Remember that we are still being ruled by a minority, and that they are ruling over us because we, as a population, let them.
    I think this statement is contradictory, and even warrants a "savior" of sorts. I am suggesting it would not be a bad thing for "the population" that "lets us be ruled" were "saved" from the spell, the lies, of the minority...in other words if they were exposed, EVEN BY AN EXTERNAL SOURCE (aka a savior) and not every single individual "going within" to the necessary degree all at the same time

    I did not CHOOSE to be ruled by a minority. So it is important to me to try to understand the dynamics by which that minority manipulations "the population" you mention into believing and enabling that idea. It seems they do so by blaming YOU, by getting you to blame yourselves, each other...as if our own natures and will would choose this reality.

    I am not separating myself from the proverbial "you" here...
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    Aragorn, great post. "You're already sitting on your horse with a sword hanging on your left and a rifle in your right hand." Mine's an Apaloosa.

    Bsbray, thank you for focusing on that point. The reason I'm still here is that people do share important and useful info.

    Outlander, thanks for the link. I was reading that thread yesterday.

    Shane, you stand apart from the others because of how you have presented yourself. I hope you've made some true friends and found some inspiration.

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    The thing that really chaps me ass is that the dude’s “community” is built around the stories told by “whistleblowers” and “insiders” and “special people” and any variety of what I’ve come to call celebrities, because essentially that’s what they sort of become, at least to the forums…and it is important niche that needed to be filled, exactly when it was, and he was the right guy (well, he and Kerry the right team) at the time.

    And through the journey from this “newer” medium, we essentially learned that no one that becomes can be entirely believed. One of the shared beliefs of the community is that if you tell too much truth, you die (or they find kiddie porn on your hard drive or your family is harmed…). So essentially, we have a “discernment-based” community, where we really just put these characters (and each “item” of intel they bring to the limelight) on a scale of believability.

    So we are at the point where a lot of us have a default point on that scale where these guys start at, and then use our sense of intuition with our own understanding of logic (which a lot of folks seem to be acting like these are objectively solidly truthful, even un-manipulable—which I disagree with) to determine what to take of value from them.

    If we were doing so in emotionally detached way, I think the scene would have a different look and feel…we might have gotten somewhere. But the emotional attachments to beliefs and ideas fuel endless loops of distractions and arguments and essentially seem to reinforce bizarre twists of logics and strong opinions from possibly confused individual’s KNOWINGNESS.

    It appears that Corey and Shane are each evolutions…levels up...from the individuals that preceded them. I’m sure there’s plenty that caught YOUR attention, but my progression seemed to be Inelia (who was on the cover of PA when I came around) in conjunction with Bill himself, then that dude jiminii (that brought Bill’s love of L Ron to the light, and captured the attention of PA dazzling them with scientology-speak and tech), then Simon—the palatable, governmental white hat “balanced-seeming” gentleman (a step up from the dudes that seemed a unpolished or a little frazzled or whatever), then Corey (the “regular guy and PA poster” out of the agency revealing important intel for the good of all…just don’t call me or my blue friends saviors…), and now Shane (don’t believe me, don’t even pay attention me or my giants or intel on the rulers of the world)…and all through them I would dabble in the prequels…Charles, who we all know and love…which I just missed (but who still seems to be out there**) and Serpo, the super-secret program that landed in Bill’s lap, and for whatever reason lead to him having “whistleblowers” and rulers of the world lining up to have BR bring them all the attention they could ever want.

    Which may be the way it had to go down…apparently it was, eh? Or where would be? It’s not a “bad” thing, except when you get emotionally attached and/or mentally addicted to it, then the “good” empowering purposes get lost in the mix. I know what I consider a real experiencer (BR on his thread has the nerve to point out that he does as well…well Bill, why have you brought us so many FAKE productions then?), and I know those people benefit from being able to come and find the bits of “truth” they need to affirm their experience, to hang on to their sanity. And it is such an important aspect of these places, the Truth that makes them here, allows them to exist, for good people to participate….that the other purposes are excused…or at least have been, in the past.

    In fact, it seemed they were not only EXCUSED, but PROTECTED…and it is nice to see that changing. Nice to see real critical thought. We have to keep this momentum up, stop the excusing, stop needing politeness and distractions and “lightening up”…and hammer away at the cognitive dissonances inserted into our reality. It is up to us, all of us. We are doing better, operating less on fear and political correctness and dated ideas of social norms to get below the surface bullsh!t.

    Cuz that’s all Shane’s stories….surface bullsh!t. The real “intel” is WHY you even heard it. Why it captured so much interest. HOW such smart people could argue about the gravitational effects of Neptune sizes spheres on the solar system or what 13 year old boys could do for Pooty-poots out there in the KGB. We need to agree (or not) that there’s a reason these stories are put in the collective awareness.

    Anyways…tnere’s one piece I would like to offer to this puzzle: the “next level-ness” that arrived in Corey was the emotional charge that came from claims to interact with these beings on a human level. It came in the form of an incredible galactic UN setting. The thing I think gets people excited and following or upset or offended is the matter-of-fact way the communication exchange between him and these beings were…to me, the experiencers I believe have interactions more like we would have with a monkey or dog (mostly non-5 sensory, whether telepathic and empathic and/or other “extra” senses) than human-to-human. Shane took that up a level with his board meeting with Anu and promoting Donald Marshall (who tells everyone his consciousness/being is stolen every night and inserted into clones in DUMBs where they play with him all night)

    Anyone that relates anomalous experiences as concrete reality seems to need something to back it up, at least that is what it seems to half the community. The other half insist there can be no such thing. And emotional charge around persists. It seems to me that every new kid that comes up the block should be treated the way BR does Sorcha Faal (but not Gordon Duff, for some reason), where there is a disclaimer that nothing this dude says can really endanger the “structure” as shane calls it or they would not be allowed to. So let’s try to figure out why we are hearing whatever it is this dude/lady is trying to transmit.

    Sorry to ramble, one thought lead to the other…and I refuse to edit. I may have a point in there somewheres…I’ll check back in after I get some work done.
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    Oh…real quick, the one other piece: what makes these dudes “different” from what we think of celebrities…is that they are ACCESSIBLE. I chat with Shane on Skype, consider him a friend, or at least a person I like on human level…even if I wonder at the phenomenon the character he created (or helped create?) has become. I pmed Corey when I had issues with him. Each of these guys seemed “up a level” from the one before (I bet Corey’s harder to chat with these days as he has been entwined with “rock star” DW from the gate…but I’m sure YOU, yeah…even you…could get his attention and direct interaction if you wanted it…Shane has always been a pm away)…but up a level from Simon, who always ignored anyone asking anything with critical thought involved…or so I have experienced and have been told.

    If you have issues with a specific with Shane…ask him.

    And be prepared, the next one to come along will be up another level, having learned a ton from this experience…and shaping the next character to “resonate” with you even more…
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    Donk's right...BR continues to elude any kind of responsibility for bringing these 'storyteller's' to the forefront. And though BR openly thanked a post long ago on Avalon about how to properly 'vet' candidates, it's quite obvious he has no intention of following the advice, which should tell you something right there. I'm sure someone has already stated this before, but it's not called a 'Project' for nothing...I have never felt the need to 'follow' Shane's every word, nor Corey, nor 'Simon Says' and thank goodness I missed the 'Charles' fiasco. Can I be blunt? Stop following men as they have a problem with their egos and have proven over and over again they are incapable of maintaining any kind of balance. Look around you...look at the mess...god, it's like nails on a chalkboard to me and it's so obvious and yet the meme constantly repeats as if we haven't had enough already. The egos are killing us...literally....Notice how most all the supposed whistleblowers and storytellers are men? Ask yourself why that is.....

    PA exhibits signs of psyop-sing being perpetrated on it's members, which some of us have noticed by paying close attention to the many correspondences and interactions that have taken place over the years. When a member posts well researched and verifiable material to make their point which happens to go against 'the established narrative' of the 'Project', only to have it shoved into a 'member's eyes only' Conspiracy forum, there is something very, very wrong with the intention and purpose of the said 'establishment'. Unfortunately there are many on there that do not have the capability to critically think ON THEIR OWN, or even observe what's taking place right before their very eyes. And yet PA seemingly has the appearance of being a pillar of meritable resource over other alternative mediums because there are plenty of people who give credence to its existence by their willing participation and support.
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    "Donk's right...BR continues to elude any kind of responsibility for bringing these 'storyteller's' to the forefront. And though BR openly thanked a post long ago on Avalon about how to properly 'vet' candidates, it's quite obvious he has no intention of following the advice, which should tell you something right there. I'm sure someone has already stated this before, but it's not called a 'Project' for nothing...I have never felt the need to 'follow' Shane's every word, nor Corey, nor 'Simon Says' and thank goodness I missed the 'Charles' fiasco. Can I be blunt? Stop following men as they have a problem with their egos and have proven over and over again they are incapable of maintaining any kind of balance. Look around you...look at the mess...god, it's like nails on a chalkboard to me and it's so obvious and yet the meme constantly repeats as if we haven't had enough already. The egos are killing us...literally....Notice how most all the supposed whistleblowers and storytellers are men? Ask yourself why that is....."
    I have thought about this for some time as Ruiner is being discussed and we are no where near clear about what is really going on. And I do see a pattern and the only thing I can think of that with each new whistleblower he gets more hits to his website and it creates a buzz and so new members. But the downside is people get tired and burnt out and fall away so the forum needs another new whistleblower.
    Don't hate on me but the forum has some very newsworthy parts but the next whistleblower part is getting old and I am just going to ignore them after this last run, completely not even take a look.
    Can someone fill me on and what happened with the Charles exodus?
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    Quote Originally posted by donk View Post
    In the end, we can only look within ourselves for the answer to all of humanity's problems. Remember that we are still being ruled by a minority, and that they are ruling over us because we, as a population, let them.
    I think this statement is contradictory, and even warrants a "savior" of sorts. I am suggesting it would not be a bad thing for "the population" that "lets us be ruled" were "saved" from the spell, the lies, of the minority...in other words if they were exposed, EVEN BY AN EXTERNAL SOURCE (aka a savior) and not every single "going within" to the necessary degree all at the same time

    I did not CHOOSE to be ruled by a minority. So it is important to me to try to understand the dynamics by which that minority manipulations "the population" you mention into believing and enabling that idea. It seems they do so by blaming YOU, by getting you to blame yourselves, each other...as if our own natures and will would choose this reality.

    I am not separating myself from the proverbial "you" here...
    Take into consideration what's being said from an energetic standpoint. We are responsible for what's happening to some extent because of our energetic behavior. You are energy...your feelings, thoughts and actions all vibrate at a frequency. You may not have chosen to be ruled by a minority, but at some point your energetic vibration supported it. We all did...because we didn't and still don't understand how our behavior has an effect on the Aether Field. 'Be the change you want to see' .......the science is there to support such a simple statement. Look at everything from an energetic viewpoint and maybe then you can see a whole new world of opportunity just waiting for enough to take hold.

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    Oh stop it, if I (or you) were given accurate (empowering to humans) information, we would not have chosen this...and you know better than most that I am constantly working out the trauma and programming and bad ideas and dependence-making institutions that neither of asked for...if my vibrations are supporting this we are in a lot worse trouble than I thought.

    I see plenty of opportunity, and I will continue being the change

    Ps...I say this lovingly, I don't think we disagree at all but that implication that my energetic vibration supports the system, I am not sure that was ever true. I have never "vibed" with the current arrangement the population found itself in when they were born, even when I was small (I'm probably still a "child"...at least at heart)
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    Quote Originally posted by Divine Feminine View Post
    Donk's right...BR continues to elude any kind of responsibility for bringing these 'storyteller's' to the forefront. And though BR openly thanked a post long ago on Avalon about how to properly 'vet' candidates, it's quite obvious he has no intention of following the advice, which should tell you something right there. I'm sure someone has already stated this before, but it's not called a 'Project' for nothing...I have never felt the need to 'follow' Shane's every word, nor Corey, nor 'Simon Says' and thank goodness I missed the 'Charles' fiasco. Can I be blunt? Stop following men as they have a problem with their egos and have proven over and over again they are incapable of maintaining any kind of balance. Look around you...look at the mess...god, it's like nails on a chalkboard to me and it's so obvious and yet the meme constantly repeats as if we haven't had enough already. The egos are killing us...literally....Notice how most all the supposed whistleblowers and storytellers are men? Ask yourself why that is.....

    PA exhibits signs of psyop-sing being perpetrated on it's members, which some of us have noticed by paying close attention to the many correspondences and interactions that have taken place over the years. When a member posts well researched and verifiable material to make their point which happens to go against 'the established narrative' of the 'Project', only to have it shoved into a 'member's eyes only' Conspiracy forum, there is something very, very wrong with the intention and purpose of the said 'establishment'. Unfortunately there are many on there that do not have the capability to critically think ON THEIR OWN, or even observe what's taking place right before their very eyes. And yet PA seemingly has the appearance of being a pillar of meritable resource over other alternative mediums because there are plenty of people who give credence to its existence by their willing participation and support.
    Please do not tar us all with the same brush, some of us non story tellers have consistently provided data over a long period of time, in a quiet non attention seeking fashion. Unfortunately I have to blame the internet, youtube and social media in particular, for all these people wanting their bit of fame. Old fashioned old school me sees old fashioned responsible research going out the window and replaced by delusional fantasy prone story tellers whom are killing off serious disclosure. I'm keeping a back seat in all this as I'm damn well ****ed off with the way the alternative community now runs the whole shebang.

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    Quote Originally posted by Rebel&Rocket View Post
    What I find MOST interesting is that not one person has called BR on his breach of his own forum rules by posting PMs, or the complete lack of journalistic integrity of someone who publishes "off the record" conversations publicly.

    Using this to try to push an agenda "I haven't seen on any other forums" (in BR's own words) of a bigger alt community psy op is opportunistic at best...and in criminally bad taste at worst.
    I have a friend that is a physics teacher and had him look over the giant story. I can't get into the details and math the way he did but basically he convinced me that it is impossible for a hominid male biped of our type with our type heart and circulation system to defeat the current specific gravity of the earth. What that means basically is that nothing beyond a certain size can exist due to the gravity being so strong that the heart could not pump blood to the brain fast enough to maintain consciousness, let along any real intelligence! He said with a laugh that the idea of a man animal surviving or really even standing up, if he was taller than ten feet here on our planet would about be impossible.

    The idea of 17 feet or more is out of the question as the man animal would surely pass out and die from the attempt! In other words his heart could only keep him alive when laying down or relaxed. Shorter would be lethargic and very slow, get tired easily and so on. All because the earths gravity increased at some point and now since that time anything larger than giraffe, that is to say taller, cannot survive let alone be smart enough to help anyone or talk to anyone beyond the stage of a retard maybe. I hated to accept that cause I liked the idea of a giant gentle being with a heart but wishful thinking I suppose.

    Anyway, that is what did it for me there. BR should not have taken the liberty he did. I agree with the one quoted here. He may find it hard to pin down interviews if he keeps betraying private conversations by this kind of thing. I guess his defense has to be that Shane is a public figure. But the thing here is that so is BR and if the situation were reversed and I shared some of BR's private words how you figure things would go then? Not like now I'm sure. Personally this post by BR confirms my decision to leave that forum. It was once a beautiful place but it was infiltrated or something but then again so was Icke's and so was this one for a time if not real time. I think we are getting some attention.

    I find it interesting that stellarpax which is a private experiencer forum, saw right through this from the get go. Some of the best psychics and sensitives on the planet nailed it with readings confirming all of what is going on now. Its quite interesting that those in the public set as gurus didn't see through it but these other no ones' for all practical purposes not even charging or telling anyone what they do saw right through it. Just nailed it as accurate as you could ask for.

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    Donk, what would be the point of coming down here if there wasn't something to learn? We're all in this position for a reason. These are lessons we needed to learn, we're not victims. When you research reincarnation, NDE's and past life regressions you begin to see that you are not your body, but consciousnesses and your incarnation on Earth is merely an illusion. In the spirit world of higher dimensions there is minimal opportunity for growth, which is why planet Earth is identified to be the school of learning. We did choose to come down here and have this experience, it's all part of 'the game'.

    Soul evolution is a process which includes all the unbearable experiences that come with it....

    When I say your actions have an effect on 'the field' I'm talking about the choices you make, we all make. Many people work for the factions that enslave us..well, since that 'action' can be construed as an energetic choice it will have an effect on the vibratory rate and reality we live in. People refuse to take responsibility for supporting the very corporations and industries that are causing the problem. I see it all the time and when you tell them, they continue on supporting the very institutions even defending them, though they're enslaved by them along with everyone else...unbelievable! If we want the fraud to stop than we have to stop supporting it and I'm not seeing it happen in the magnitude that needs to be accomplished to make the needed impact. We need to stop making excuses and look in the mirror. The time to understand is now and it's 'now' for a reason because any time sooner wasn't in the cards. You have publicly stated that you work in the financial world yes? And you have expressed the fraud that exists within this field right? If I'm misunderstanding forgive me....But the whole financial system is based on fraud so if you are working in it, aren't you to some extent supporting it energetically? Aren't we all by using FRN's?

    Here's another one....Capital Punishment. I use to be a believer in this, but not anymore...well think about it...doesn't it support the eye for an eye mantra? Sounds fair right? Until you think about the energetic effect this has on the reality you live in. If you take the 'eye for an eye' stance, are you not just pushing negative energy back and forth? There's a reason several prisons with death row exist on the 33rd parallel!

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    Quote Originally posted by SmokeyJoe1952 View Post
    Please do not tar us all with the same brush, some of us non story tellers have consistently provided data over a long period of time, in a quiet non attention seeking fashion. Unfortunately I have to blame the internet, youtube and social media in particular, for all these people wanting their bit of fame. Old fashioned old school me sees old fashioned responsible research going out the window and replaced by delusional fantasy prone story tellers whom are killing off serious disclosure. I'm keeping a back seat in all this as I'm damn well ****ed off with the way the alternative community now runs the whole shebang.
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    Very many thanks, appreciate those kind words greatly.

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