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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Why are the better and more beautiful people always 'white' or 'whiter'. Coincidentally, I spoke with a graduate student studying anthropology and asked her about the 'shovel-shaped' incisors of certain indigenous people in the Americas and she responded that it wasn't a true characteristic but rather an ethnocentric bias precipitated by the 'white' people conducting the research. I was having a broken picture frame repaired incidentally. She was obviously white I might add (freckles, red hair and whitish skin) and remarked that modern anthropology is trying to root out such cultural and racial bias. White people came last in the origins of color and have been around for only about 5,000 years. In the below explanation note the definition of 'white' is not related to any racial designation, for the most part the pre-Columbian indigenous had no concept of a 'white race'.

    Appearance and origins
    Cieza de León remarked that, among the indigenous Peruvians, the Chachapoyas were unusually fair-skinned and famously beautiful:

    They are the whitest and most handsome of all the people that I have seen in Indies, and their wives were so beautiful that because of their gentleness, many of them deserved to be the Incas' wives and to also be taken to the Sun Temple (...) (Chuckie's note: (probably, if any truth exists in that European perspective it was because they were living under a cloud cover of mountainous rainforest) The women and their husbands always dressed in woolen clothes and in their heads they wear their llautos, which are a sign they wear to be known everywhere.
    — "The Incas", Pedro de Cieza de Leon, Chapter 27

    However, there is no other account at the time from other travelers to the region that mentions the particular "whiteness'' of the Natives in Chachapoya. These comments have led to claims, not supported by Cieza de León's chronicle, that the Chachapoyas were blond-haired and European in appearance. The chronicle's use of the term "white" here predates its emergence as a racial classification. Another Spanish author, Pedro Pizarro, described all indigenous Peruvians as "white." Although some authors have quoted Pizarro saying that Chachapoyas were blond, these authors do not quote him directly; instead they quote remarks attributed to him and others by race scientist Jacques de Mahieu in support of his thesis that Vikings had brought civilization to the Americas.Following up on these claims, anthropologist Inge Schjellerup examined the remains of Chachapoyans and found them consistent with other ancient Peruvians. She found, for example, a universal occurrence of shovel-shaped upper incisors and a near-complete absence of the cusp of Carabelli on upper molars — characteristics consistent with other indigneous peoples and inconsistent with Europeans.

    Sarcophagi of Carajía. Chachapoyas culture.
    According to the analysis of the Chachapoyas objects made by the Antisuyo expeditions of the Instituto de Arqueología Amazónica, the Chachapoyas do not exhibit Amazon cultural tradition but one more closely resembling an Andean one. Given that the terrain facilitates peripatric speciation, as evidenced by the high biodiversity of the Andean region, the physical attributes of the Chachapoyas are most likely reflecting founder effects, assortative mating, and/or related phenomena in an initially small population sharing a relatively recent common ancestor with other indigenous groups.

    The anthropomorphous sarcophagi resemble imitations of funeral bundles provided with wooden masks typical of the "Middle Horizon", a dominant culture on the coast and highlands, also known as the Tiwanaku–Wari culture. The "mausoleums" may be modified forms of the chullpa or pucullo, elements of funeral architecture observed throughout the Andes, especially in the Tiwanaku and Wari cultures.

    Population expansion into the Amazonian Andes seems to have been driven by the desire to expand agrarian land, as evidenced by extensive terracing throughout the region. The agricultural environments of both the Andes and the coastal region, characterized by its extensive desert areas and limited soil suitable for farming, became insufficient for sustaining a population like the ancestral Peruvians, which had grown for 3000 years.

    This theory has been described as "mountainization of the rain forest" for both geographical and cultural reasons: first, after the fall of the tropical forests, the scenery of the Amazonian Andes changed to resemble the barren mountains of the Andes; second, the people who settled there brought their Andean culture with them. This phenomenon, which still occurs today, was repeated in the southern Amazonian Andes during the Inca Empire, which projected into the mountainous zone of Vilcabamba, raising examples of Inca architecture such as Machu Picchu.

    -wiki-
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    Happened with me... (finally, though that was many lifetimes ago - ie. Atlantis).

    Anyone that is a serious student of Atlantis would benefit from studying the books and interviews of Jason Reza Jorjani.
    All the above is all and only my opinion. It may contain some sharing of components of my current operating strategy and some foundational components of my current world view - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chester View Post
    Happened with me... (finally, though that was many lifetimes ago - ie. Atlantis).

    Anyone that is a serious student of Atlantis would benefit from studying the books and interviews of Jason Reza Jorjani.
    Hate to be so blunt Chester, I don't know if you fit the model of the typical White Supremacist, but my observation has always been that those people would never make the grade in a normal world.
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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    Hate to be so blunt Chester, I don't know if you fit the model of the typical White Supremacist, but my observation has always been that those people would never make the grade in a normal world.
    Your statement demonstrates your vulnerability to falling into traps that you allow to convert your expression of being into a regurgitator of falsehoods that serve only to demonstrate your utter ignorance.

    If I fit your ignorant model then your determination I do validates my claim as to your ignorance.


    In fact... I can be far more blunt if you like.

    I knew I had you on "ignore" for a reason and thanks for the reminder so I keep you there.
    All the above is all and only my opinion. It may contain some sharing of components of my current operating strategy and some foundational components of my current world view - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chester View Post
    Your statement demonstrates your vulnerability to falling into traps that you allow to convert your expression of being into a regurgitator of falsehoods that serve only to demonstrate your utter ignorance.

    If I fit your ignorant model then your determination I do validates my claim as to your ignorance.


    In fact... I can be far more blunt if you like.

    I knew I had you on "ignore" for a reason and thanks for the reminder so I keep you there.
    Help yourself Chester, your thought processes are disturbing. Disturbing and ignorant are not the same thing Chester, my man.
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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    Why are the better and more beautiful people always 'white' or 'whiter'.
    Because it means that they are out of the sun and therefore rich.

    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    Hate to be so blunt Chester, I don't know if you fit the model of the typical White Supremacist, but my observation has always been that those people would never make the grade in a normal world.
    Then your observation skills suck.
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    Quote Originally posted by Lord Sidious View Post
    Because it means that they are out of the sun and therefore rich.



    Then your observation skills suck.
    Love holding your hand sometimes nuggeeee

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Love holding your hand sometimes nuggeeee
    Sorry nugg, I've never been in the navy.
    The navy hasn't been in me either
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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
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    Dude. That's off topic and unnecessary.


    Fat and white are both signs of being rich. You eat enough and you don't have to work out in the sun. In the twentieth century being tanned became in vogue. You're rich enough to go to the islands or the beach or wherever. In the future it'll probably be some kind of surgery or implant which will designate the rich/elite.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    Hate to be so blunt Chester, I don't know if you fit the model of the typical White Supremacist, but my observation has always been that those people would never make the grade in a normal world.
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    Help yourself Chester, your thought processes are disturbing. Disturbing and ignorant are not the same thing Chester, my man.
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    Quote Originally posted by Lord Sidious View Post
    Because it means that they are out of the sun and therefore rich.



    Then your observation skills suck.
    lol, my observation skills are superior, something that I have proven here on numerous occasions

    Once again, it will be a matter of time before everyone catches up with me. My statements are exactly on point and as usual, We will see.
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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    lol, my observation skills are superior, something that I have proven here on numerous occasions

    Once again, it will be a matter of time before everyone catches up with me. My statements are exactly on point and as usual, We will see.
    Chuckie has now been banned from this thread.
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    Quote Originally posted by Elen View Post
    Hi Cearna,
    Really valid questions, I hope that you'll find time to watch the documentaries as she is putting up a really good case as to what she means with the Atlanteans. I like her style of searching for answers too, and she has said many times that she doesn't know everything and that she would like some help from people who has "the abilities". She has supplied her e-mail address in some of the videos and welcomes your questions and your input. Thank you for your comment.

    Elen
    The information we have regarding Atlantis comes is known to have come from Plato - https://www.thoughtco.com/platos-atl...timaeus-119667

    But prior to Plato it is possible that what Plato called Atlantis was also written about - https://link.springer.com/chapter/10...4020-8784-4_37

    You have Francis Bacon's New Atlantis - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Atlantis

    Rudolf Steiner - Atlantis and Lemuria - https://www.amazon.com/Atlantis-Lemu.../dp/1589639049

    Edgar Cayce - On Atlantis - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=On+Atlant...f=nb_sb_noss_2

    And Colin Wilson - https://www.amazon.com/Atlantis-Sphi...ks%2C93&sr=1-1


    Jason Jorjani has drawn from all of these sources and more to put together quite a well argued hypothesis that the ruins of Atlantis are well covered by the ice of the Antarctic. In addition, Jorjani argues that it was the Atlantians who rebelled against "the gods" and fostered the hybrid races that soon covered the globe. This after the fall of Atlantis by way of a wrathful "Zeus"/"Yahweh" who generated the inundation well documented from sources all over the world.

    The best of Jorjani's writings that cover the matter is found in CLOSER ENCOUNTERS (Arktos Press 2021)

    In addition, here's a brief discussion between Jorjani and Jeffrey Mishlove on the subject of Atlantis.

    All the above is all and only my opinion. It may contain some sharing of components of my current operating strategy and some foundational components of my current world view - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    lol, my observation skills are superior, something that I have proven here on numerous occasions
    No, Chuckie
    You skills suckie

    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    Once again, it will be a matter of time before everyone catches up with me. My statements are exactly on point and as usual, We will see.
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