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    Yant Flat, Utah, USA in 4K Ultra HD

    Found this on YouTube and was thinking immediately that this is NOT natural as it is claimed. I've seen it before somewhere and remembered the videos with Gary Schoenung recommended by Sylvie.

    Yant Flat (also known as Candy Cliffs) is a spectacular rocky plateau near Saint George in Utah, covered with colorful patterned sandstone rock formations. Yant Flat is not yet widely known but in many respects it rivals the beauty of the famous Checkerboard Mesa, The Wave, Valley of Fire, White Pocket.


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    Part 4 of 4 - Ruins of Old Earth, a Gary Schoenung Documentary

    Here is the video form October 2015 showing what I had seen, start at

    12:00 - 16:00
    32:27 - 35:30
    42:09 - 47:00


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    Quote Originally posted by Elen View Post
    Found this on YouTube and was thinking immediately that this is NOT natural as it is claimed. I've seen it before somewhere and remembered the videos with Gary Schoenung recommended by Sylvie.
    Looks to have serious water weathering as in so many cases like this one..... Latest from Vlad

    The Mysterious caves of Cales Lamanon France


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX1eOlw1_nw
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    great pictures...

    GiANTs, ANTs or AtlANTeans


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    Quote Originally posted by Maggie View Post
    Looks to have serious water weathering as in so many cases like this one..... Latest from Vlad

    The Mysterious caves of Cales Lamanon France


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX1eOlw1_nw
    This is a really interesting video. No talking or speculative theories. The pictures just speak for themselves.

    This doesn't look like water erosion. The rocks seem melted.

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    Quote Originally posted by Novusod View Post
    This is a really interesting video. No talking or speculative theories. The pictures just speak for themselves.

    This doesn't look like water erosion. The rocks seem melted.
    I have been thinking along the lines of melted stone, dissolved by chemical (sphygerics of some kind) or heat. I think about the prevalence of mirrors and how concave parabolic mirrors focus light. I never saw this article before.

    Ancient Stone Cutting
    Magnifying Solar Rays to Build Egyptian
    and Incan Structures and Artefacts

    Right at the end of the Bronze Age, it seems that mankind hit a snag and everything went south, as if a worldwide cataclysm hit and men forgot everything they learned...transitioning into the Dark Ages or the medieval period, for some...hell on earth.

    Some say a worldwide famine hit. Some say a plague. Others say a comet or asteroid hit the earth to physically alter the poles as the planet shifted from the impact and from Greenland, the ancient north pole location, it was moved to where it is today. All worldwide monuments, pyramids, stonehenge, and even the Incan and Mayan citadels were oriented to a Greenland marked North Pole according to investigating archaeologists studying the possibility of a pole shift.

    One of the lost technologies towards the end of the Bronze Age was stonecraft and ancient masonry technology. A technology that cannot even be replicated by our modern mechanical machines, from lathes to diamond-bit drills.

    You look at the size of the huge stone blocks in the Great Pyramids, and you really wonder how they were put into place, so precisely measured and cut. One angle that often gets overlooked about ancient stone masonry is bronze age stonecraft pottery using hard igneous rock. In Cairo Museum's Old Kingdom rooms are dozens of vases, bowls, large lidded boxes, and statues, carved from schist, diorite, granite and obsidian, with no easy answer as to how ancient sculptors carve their shapes with such precision.

    Modern stonecraft experts and masons tell us that even with today's power tools and diamond lathes and drills, the same pottery stonecraft cannot be replicated at all. Much less for the perceived tools of the ancient Egyptians such as pounding balls, and copper and stone tools as theorized by archaeological experts.

    All the ancient Egyptian carved artifacts have very modern clean lines and perfect proportions, that make the New Kingdom items seem baroque by comparison. Life-size diorite and granite statues have satin-smooth surfaces, and delicately carved features, as if coming from a mold.

    A geologist and a machine tool manufacturer describes the nature of these ancient stone artifacts, Professor Ivan Watkins, assigned at the Department of Earth Sciences, at St. Cloud University in Minnesota, says that the primary indicator of how a stone was processed or 'worked' is the condition of the surface of the material at the microscopic level. During his investigation, it was found that Incan and Egyptian stonemasonry had similar workmanship, indicating that the same technology was available across both nations at the time.

    Because hard igneous rocks are extremely tough to cut, a mechanical and physical method of cutting them would leave uneven mineral surfaces because the rock would naturally crack along low angles if it was hammered. Because stones like granite contain a mix of minerals with varying degrees of hardness, force applied to the stone's surface ( hammering, grinding, polishing with abrasives ) would cause the weaker planes to crack naturally and the tougher parts to keep together.

    All of the ancient stonecraft seen in Incan and Egyptian monuments and stoneware show smooth and slick surfaces, which means the rock was not processed in the manner that archaeologists claim.

    The stone-crafting methods used seem to indicate that extreme heat was used to melt quartz fragments into a glaze that fills in irregularities, creating a smooth surface. Watkins sees the same slick stones with Incan stonemasonry at Machu Picchu and Ollantaytambo, and the Rodadero at Sacsayhuaman. The stones keeping an almost a ceramic glaze.

    Heat? Interesting.
    - See more at: http://www.reach-unlimited.com/p/124....jLNbpo6p.dpuf
    Visit to the Dendera Underground... has been posted before but here worth affirming. What the Global civilization knew...


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    Sonic Geometry 2 : Communicating with the Universe in 432hz

    440hz vs 432 hz - Though it defies all logical explanation, it appears that our ancient ancestors living in Sumeria 6,000 years ago were “gifted” by “sky-visitors” with certain information that could only be verified by present-day technology. #432Hz

    What is this information? It is the explanation of how frequency reveals mechanical movements found throughout the universe, how certain harmonics contain keys and codes to unlock the very process of creation, and how one particular math system reveals the very matrix of existence. Is this information new? No it is not. It has been laying dormant in our geometry, in our system of keeping time, in the way we measure our world, and in certain symbols we find all around us but have lost the connection to their true meaning.

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    Quote Originally posted by Maggie View Post
    I switched to 432 tuning 2010. My song writing skyrocketed and my singing abilty improved. Especially harmonies. In a band, I will only play with those who use sacred tuning. Where I live, there are many of them and some new adopters transition easily. Jam sessions are different. 440 is still what the average musician will tune to. It's what everybody else does.
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    Quote Originally posted by Maggie View Post
    I have been thinking along the lines of melted stone, dissolved by chemical (sphygerics of some kind) or heat. I think about the prevalence of mirrors and how concave parabolic mirrors focus light. I never saw this article before.



    Visit to the Dendera Underground... has been posted before but here worth affirming. What the Global civilization knew...


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygjCaehjIlo
    I have wondered many times about how they lit up inside caves, hallways and rooms without leaving any burn-marks anywhere. Were the "Egyptian Mirrors" something different than mirrors? Were they actually "electrical" torch lights?



    Note that the handle is made of a different material than the copper plate.

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    Quote Originally posted by Elen View Post
    I have wondered many times about how they lit up inside caves, hallways and rooms without leaving any burn-marks anywhere. Were the "Egyptian Mirrors" something different than mirrors? Were they actually "electrical" torch lights?



    Note that the handle is made of a different material than the copper plate.
    YES. That makes so much sense.

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    A short history of ancient electricity


    This has good info here

    Lighthouse of Alexandria,
    one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World

    The lighthouse of Alexandria was one of the Seven wonders of the Ancient World. Atop the Pharos Lighthouse of Alexandria stood a great mirror, a reflective telescope, and electric searchlight, all in one. You might ask: Did the ancient Egyptians really have electric lights? The answer is in the affirmative and the abundant evidence of its existence follows:

    The great Egyptologist John Gardner Wilkinson, author of Materia Hieroglyphica and Manners and Customs of the Ancient Egyptians, pointed out that the ancient Egyptian “paintings offer few representations of lamps, torches, or any other kind of light.” Why—when they repeatedly illustrate almost every other Egyptian article? The answer lies in the fact that modern authorities are simply not looking for electric lights on the ancient monuments so they simply do not recognize them!

    An ancient Egyptian goddess holding up electric filament lamps to read hieroglyphics


    In her 1877 edition of Isis Unveiled, Madame H. P. Blavatsky wrote: "If we possess but little proof of the ancients having had any clear notions as to all the effects of electricity, there is very strong evidence, at all events, of their having been perfectly acquainted with electricity itself. 'Ben David,' says the author of The Occult Sciences, ''has asserted that Moses possessed some knowledge of the phenomena of electricity.' Professor Hirt, of Berlin, is of this opinion."

    "Michaelis remarks—firstly: 'that there is no indication that lightning ever struck the temple of Jerusalem, during a thousand years. Secondly, that according to Josephus, a forest of points . . . of gold and very sharp, covered the roof of the temple. Thirdly, that this roof communicated with the caverns in the hill upon which the temple was situated, by means of pipes in connection with the gilding [electroplating?] which covered all the exterior of the building; in consequence of which the points would act as conductors.'”

    A royal light anointing ceremony with "a forest of points"
    protecting a temple at Denderah from lightning


    Hymn XV-1 of the sacred Sanskrit verses of the Indian Atharvaveda, dating back to around 1,000 B.C., declares: "O well-versed engineer make use of this terrible electric power fit to be utilized for useful purposes by controlling it, for non-violent, brilliant light like the dawn [like a brilliant carbon arc light]. It has the potentiality to help hearing, control energy, and spread light in all quarters." (Devi Chand's translation)

    An ancient Egyptian illustration of a filament type of electric lamp
    with three bulbs and its power cord, emblazoned on a tomb wall



    Another verse of Chand's translation states: "O current electricity of high voltage, safely carried by electric wires, you kill many enemies in the war, waged by learned persons or through the help of natural forces. (Hymn XXXVII-4) This verse certainly shows that the Indians (Buddhists) utilized electrical technology in antiquity, just like the Egyptians. The "electric wires" may have been in cables like the one above.

    Buddhist Priests shooing insects away from an ancient electric searchlight


    The illustration above confirms Devi Chand's translation of verse XV-1 of the Atharvaveda. Here we have a Buddhist electric mirror (searchlight), "brilliant like the dawn," cut into a third-century-B.C. stone monument dug up at the ancient "Hill of Lights" in the ruins of a stupa at Amaravati, in modern-day India. Note the electrical guts, and fly whisks used to chase insects away from the bright light.

    Carbon arc searchlights illustrated in one of the crypts
    under the ancient Egyptian temple at Denderah


    Wilkinson's mention of the lack of evidence for the “use of torches” by the ancient Egyptians reminds us of what the renowned astronomer Sir J. Norman Lockyer, who studied ancient Egyptian temples and tombs in depth, reported in 1894. In his Dawn of Astronomy, he pointed out an enigma—at the time—when he wrote: "In all freshly-opened tombs there are no traces whatever of any kind of combustion having taken place, even in the inner-most recesses. So strikingly evident is this that my friend M. Bouriant, while we were discussing this matter at Thebes, laughingly suggested the possibility that the electric light was known to the ancient Egyptians." That “possibility” has become reality. Now we know the ancient Egyptians did, indeed, know all about “the electric light” and used it to illuminate the night sky as well as temples and tombs—and it is no longer a laughing matter.


    Egyptian deities presenting Hathor with an electric lamp, battery and cable


    Egyptian goddess Isis sitting on her throne before four large filament lights
    powered by a huge electric battery in the Temple of Denderah
    She is saluted with a small battery powered light.

    Lucian of Samosata on the Euphrates spoke of a Syrian goddess who wore an electric light on her head. This second-century historian maintained: "She bears on her head a stone called a 'lamp,' and it receives its name from its function. That stone shines in the night with great clarity and provides the whole temple with light, as with [oil] lamps. In the daytime, it shines dimly, but has a very fiery aspect." The "lamp" may have resembled the one worn by the goddess of light Hathor or one of the four large electric lights behind the light goddess Isis in the temple at Denderah illustrated above.

    A couple of centuries later, in his City of God, St. Augustine (354—430 A.D.) pointed out that in Egypt, “There was, and still is, a temple of Venus, in which a lamp burns so strongly in the open air that no storm or rain extinguishes it.” He blamed “the reality” of this marvelous lamp, which was likely an arc light, on the miracles of the “black arts” performed by demons and men. He wrote:

    "We add to that inextinguishable lamp a host of other marvels of human and of magical origin—that is miracles of the demon’s black arts performed by men, and miracles performed by the demons themselves. If we choose to deny the reality of these, we shall ourselves be in conflict with the truth of the sacred books in which we believe. Thus either human ingenuity has devised in that inextinguishable lamp some contrivance based on the asbestos stone [carbon] or else it was contrived by magic art to give men something to marvel at in that shrine; or perhaps some demon presented himself there under the name of Venus with which such effect that this prodigy was displayed to the public there and continued there for so many years."


    Photographs of an arc light from
    the collection of Larry Brian Radka

    St. Augustine also claimed that the asbestos stone "has no fire of its own, and yet, when it has received fire, blazes so fiercely with a fire not its own that it cannot be quenched.” This points to the carbon in an arc light receiving its fire from an electric source—an ancient battery—“not its own.”



    Furthermore, he also claimed “no storm or rain extinguishes it.” This also points to the electric arc light because Chamber’s Encyclopaedia maintains that it “can be produced in a vacuum, and below the surface of water, oils, and other non-conducting liquids, and it is thus quite independent of the action of the air.”


    Denderah-temple electric lights with wiring schematics, bulbs, and batteries

    Hopefully, the schematic of the (red) batteries hooked up to the (white) electric lights in B above will convince even the most dedicated skeptic that that these ancient Egyptian illustrations passed on to us at Denderah are indeed electric lights. Here, we see one end of the battery cable loops (like those in A)—which serve also as carrying straps when not connected to a lamp—disconnected from their batteries and hooked up to the electric lamps that they are powering.

    The arrangement at the top of illustration B apparently has two (hidden) electric bulbs (each powered by its own battery) inside the flower-designed reflector, and two separate white lights are beaming upward out of its Lotus (a sun or light symbol) reflector. The batteries below it are tied together in parallel and supply power to two more reflective bulb holders. The drawing of this type of electrical arrangement is repeated at least three more times on the walls of the temple at Denderah.

    In C, three Egyptian electric lights sit on a stand that contains their power source—accessed by what appears to be a tall, narrow door in the front of it. Notice the two loops in the cables at the base of the stem of the lamp with the lotus shade or reflector on the center of the stand. One probably runs to the positive and the other to the negative terminals of its battery.

    In D, four electric lamps with flower reflectors on a cornice seem to be connected in series with wire nuts, but internal wires in their cables may connect them in parallel instead. (We added labels and colors in all of these illustrations for emphasis.)

    “Whenever, in the pride of some new discovery, we throw a look into the past, we find, to our dismay, certain vestiges which indicate the possibility, if not the certainty, that the alleged discovery was not totally unknown to the ancients,” wrote Madame H. P. Blavatsky, in Isis Unveiled, well over a hundred years ago. “It is generally asserted that neither the early inhabitants of the Mosaic times, nor even the more civilized nations of the Ptolemaic period were acquainted with electricity. If we remain undisturbed in this opinion, it is not for the lack of proofs to the contrary.”

    Ancient history confirms Blavatsky's observations with respect to the Pharos lighthouse at Alexandria, Egypt, which is discussed in detail in The Electric Mirror on the Pharos Lighthouse and Other Ancient Lighting.

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    Oh my goodness Maggie...you are acting like an "Oracle"...I ask a question...and before you can blink...there it is! Yes yes, so much for Thomas Edison etc. it was just re-remembered after all. I've known this, but couldn't prove a thing. Thanks Maggie!


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    The thing to understand about the Dynastic Egyptians is that they did NOT build many of the great megalithic wonders. The pyramids for example are thousands of years older than the dynastic Egyptians and were built by a much more advanced civilization. Egyptian society was very much Cargo Cultish in nature Worshiping the original builders and winged disks as gods.

    A lot of the Egyptian carvings and hand signals resemble Airport signal marshals.



    Is this man doing an Egyptian ritual or directing air traffic? Maybe there is no difference.

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    Interesting analogy Novusod...we are already using Glyph replacements with our Internet Symbols.


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    Quote Originally posted by Novusod View Post
    The thing to understand about the Dynastic Egyptians is that they did NOT build many of the great megalithic wonders. The pyramids for example are thousands of years older than the dynastic Egyptians and were built by a much more advanced civilization. Egyptian society was very much Cargo Cultish in nature Worshiping the original builders and winged disks as gods.

    A lot of the Egyptian carvings and hand signals resemble Airport signal marshals.


    Is this man doing an Egyptian ritual or directing air traffic? Maybe there is no difference.
    That's an interesting thought. What do you see implied there?

    I also think from the appearance at many places in Egypt, damage was done by some major calamity. In the Joe Rogan/ Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson & Michael Shermer video (one that displays expert skeptics inability to agree something MAJOR was obliterated before "our" historic civilization) much is made of the gap between around 10,900 and 5000 BCE. The landscape of Egypt shows that stones and debris are everywhere. It looks like it was covered?

    It seems to me that the resurgence of Egypt thousands of years after the disaster "NEW COMERS"came in from elsewhere and brought the restart to Egypt of culture. The Egyptians admittedly worshiped what they knew of Zep Tepi. MEANWHILE the indigenous people (ancestors of Dogon) had something they could share and there was a new start and surely much was "idolized" and made religious.
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    I have respect for Brien Forester

    Crimson Horizon - The Mysterious Red-Haired Sea Kings of the Pacific

    The people of the Pacific known by most as "Polynesians" remain a mystery to scholars and the public alike as to their origins. While most academics in the fields of archaeology and anthropology strongly insist that they exclusively came from south east Asia, other researchers, and the oral traditions of the people themselves often differ with this opinion. The presence of red hair, called "Ehu" in Hawaii and "Uru Kehu" in some of the ancient and present populations suggest connections, in the distant past, with sea farers from coastal Peru, especially the Paracas, to account for this. The famous explorer Thor Heyerdahl was insitent that there were ancient connections between Peru and the Pacific Islands, and this book attempts to solve this riddle, without delving into Celtic or other possible European ancestry. Come explore the possibilities through science, wind directions, sea currents, sculpture, and oral traditions.

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlWlZEO9-GM

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    Quote Originally posted by Maggie View Post
    I have respect for Brien Forester
    So do I...

    Academia seem to insist never to talk to the native people or listen to the Lore anywhere at all. As Brien said: "This has to stop now!" I love his rants through this presentation, he shows a lot of empathy and passion in conjunction with knowledge...which is a good combination.

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