When the Atlantis survivors wake up

[Elen]

Thank you Maggie, and thank you Novusod! You make this place much richer with your contributions.

[Aianawa]

Meanwhile back in India >

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBqdZPZIKZY

[Elen]

Meanwhile back in India >

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBqdZPZIKZY

This is good and genuinely "Grass-root".

[Novusod]

Another incredible megalithic structure from India:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC80JjqPzIU

[Mahakasyapa]

Thank you Maggie, and thank you Novusod! You make this place much richer with your contributions.

I love this thread, been following Sylvie's material for some time. Im really happy to know that this thread is so popular here & is constantly updated. Important stuff but I think the 3-400 year timeline is too "out there" for most to even consider this material as somewhat valid lol but all these megalithic sites all over the planet really need more focus & attention.

[Aragorn]

I love this thread, been following Sylvie's material for some time. Im really happy to know that this thread is so popular here & is constantly updated. Important stuff but I think the 3-400 year timeline is too "out there" for most to even consider this material as somewhat valid lol but all these megalithic sites all over the planet really need more focus & attention.

As a new member, you are perhaps not aware then that The One Truth has conducted an interview of Sylvie? The interview was conducted late in 2015 by bsbray, a now retired member who was also a moderator at the time, and you can find it by clicking here.

:interview:

[Maggie]

I love this thread, been following Sylvie's material for some time. Im really happy to know that this thread is so popular here & is constantly updated. Important stuff but I think the 3-400 year timeline is too "out there" for most to even consider this material as somewhat valid lol but all these megalithic sites all over the planet really need more focus & attention.

This thread and discussion of newearth material is what attracted me to join this forum. I love the investigative explosion going on! Welcome to the thread and the forum! Maggie

[Elen]

I love this thread, been following Sylvie's material for some time. Im really happy to know that this thread is so popular here & is constantly updated. Important stuff but I think the 3-400 year timeline is too "out there" for most to even consider this material as somewhat valid lol but all these megalithic sites all over the planet really need more focus & attention.

I love the fact that you've ended up here...and any contribution to our discussion will be so much appreciated.

[Maggie]

Some new material for me

Klaus Dona: Mysterious Artifacts from Secret Collections & Giant Skeletons


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v27RwAhBUa4

[modwiz]

This is great!




Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImPSfcnlCiY


ANCIENT HISTORY OF ARATTA-UKRAINE:
20,000 BCE – 1000 CEl

Really enjoyed the video. Based on something said or shown I believe Aratta became corrupted to Tartaria. The vast civilization that covered most of Asia and Eastern Europe.

[Maggie]

Really enjoyed the video. Based on something said or shown I believe Aratta became corrupted to Tartaria. The vast civilization that covered most of Asia and Eastern Europe.

I once did some research on Tartaria. I will try to find some of my references. Interesting early writing is associated with Tartaria and suggests a vast "country" with written communication.

loam plates are embedded with the oldest text known by modern science so far. Some archaeologists tried to debunk this myth claiming that the Tartaria tablets appeared because of the Sumerian influence, because the symbols present on the tablets strongly resemble those used by the Sumerians when it came to writing. Because of this, it was assumed that the symbols were borrowed from them, and the ancient dwellers used them without knowing their meaning. But scientists are contradicted by history itself, because around 5500 BC, the Sumerian writing did not exist or if it did, there are no accounts to support these claims until the present day. Historians were once again puzzled when they tried to translate the tablets based on Sumerian dialect, as they found the name ‘Saue,’ the equivalent of god Usmu known to the Sumerian culture.

tartaria-tablet-3


Experts from the Russian Academy of Science concluded after they had analyzed the intriguing artefacts that they represent a fragment of a largely spread writing system found in the area where they were discovered. According to them, the text from one tablet refers to six ancient totems which coincide with a manuscript from the Sumerian city of Djemdet-Nastra. If read clockwise, the following proto-Sumerian text can be deciphered: ‘NUN.KA.S.UGULA.PL.IDIM.KARA.I,’ meaning ‘Forty years of ruling for the lips of god Saue the oldest after ritual had burned. This is the tenth.’ The meaning of this is still under debate, leaving room for plenty of speculations since the scientific world couldn’t come to a mutual agreement until now.

The general belief is that these writings couldn’t just pop-up out of nowhere, but they could only be developed inside a prosperous and vast culture. So, in order to solve the riddle of the three clay tablets the entire complex where they had been discovered, namely Turdas-Vinca complex, needs to be excavated and studied. Not only do the glyphs embedded on the tablets strongly resemble the Sumerian writings, but they’re also arranged in the same succession, meaning that a symbol coincidence is plausible, but the same arrangement (succession) beats that coincidence. A series of archaeological observations also point towards a similarity between the religious beliefs from Tartaria area and that of Djmdet-Nasra. The interpretation of the round tablet denotes that it contains brief information regarding the sacrificial ritual of a priest.

tartaria-tablet1


With all these enigmas still in place, researchers are debating how it was possible for the ancient dwellers of Tărtăria to write in Sumerian when at that time, the name of Sumer wasn’t even known. Russian scientist Boris Perlov believes that the Sumerians and Babylonians were only the ‘capable students,’ thus borrowing the pictographic writing from the Eastern cultures and furtherly transformed it into cuneiform writing. According to Perlov, the true inventors of writing were the Balkan people and not the Sumerians.

So, is it possible that history has to look elsewhere to elucidate the riddle of the first writings? Were there other great civilizations predating those of Sumer and Egypt? And most important, are we going to ignore every piece of evidence that directly contradicts with the established norms of science?

This is from a forum

Name of Tartary no relation to the name of the Turkic tribes has not. When strangers ask the people of this country about who they are, the answer to them was, "We are the children Tarkh and Tara" - a brother and sister who were in ancient times the Slavs, the guardians of the Russian land.

These views have not unfounded(According to ancient beliefs): the fact that the man "came" to the Earth through the so-called Stargate about forty thousand years ago.

Among the settlers was a relatively small group of highly-humanoid creatures that are very close to modern man, forming a kind of caste, which the rest of the settlers called urs.

Urs had great opportunities that lay beyond the imagination of most of the "ordinary" people who did not belong to this caste.

Ury become teachers, mentors all others. They defended initially relatively small number of settlements "ordinary" people, both from the wild and from the "two-legged predators."

Ury taught and helped develop the original technology, passed the necessary knowledge and skills that will have to be sought only through the millennia.

Ury encrypted and transmitted them to maintain a special caste of keepers - the wise men, who, at the right time will have to pass the stored knowledge, carrying them through the millennia, preserving all that is possible.

For this purpose, the guardians - the wise men received two runic alphabet, each of which is used by the wise men of different levels of initiation - and da'Ariyskie h'Ariyskie letters.

The memory of the teachers Urach remained in words, for example, in the word culture, which means a system of moral and spiritual ideas that have been passed urami rusam their wards.

The presence of two castes of the ancient Slavs was manifested in the names that they were given the neighbors. Thus, most of its Asian neighbors called the inhabitants of the Slavonic-Aryan Empire urrusami, combining self-designation of these two castes into one. Until now, many Asian neighbors call the old Russian - urrusy.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/histo...t-tartary.html

This is about tartaria referencing Sylvie and false timelines.

Tartaria

Let’s take a look at an alternative view on history. A youtuber called newearth, who bases much of her videos on the New Chronology by Anatoly Fomenko, says that there used to be a huge empire ruled by survivors from Atlantis or Hyperborea (basically the Aryans) called in western Europe as Tartaria or the Tartar empire just a few centuries ago. Main stream history claims that Tartaria was basically a name for the geographical area in northern and central Asia inhabited by various nomadic people. According to newearth this is false. Tartaria was an empire inhabited by white Christian people. I know this sounds nonsensical to anyone who hears this information for the first time, therefore I suggest you look deeper into the matter yourself.

Newearth explains that Genghis Khan and the Mongol Golden Horde were part of this white Tartarian empire. They were not the ancestors of the Asiatic people we know today as Mongols. The meaning of the word Mongol or Mogol was different centuries ago. The words Tartar, Mongol, Scythian, and probably also Khitan refer to the same people, or maybe they are different groups of the same people, like Germans, Swedes, Danes and English are all members of the Germanic people.https://concordiaabchao.wordpress.co...t-go-to-china/

Here is a reference to a Tara and her brother in the naming of Tartaria.

https://books.google.com/books?id=uZ...20tara&f=false

More about the "kingdom" referred to as Tartaria and experience of the "cold times"

Over the past millennia Slavs, self-designation of various Slavic tribes who had originally common culture and a common language, determined by different factors.

Prior to the disappearance of the levels, all the Slavic tribes had a middle name urrusy. After the disappearance of the levels, the functions they perform, internally split between their wards Russ.

This led to the formation of several castes: the caste of the Magi - the knowledge and tradition, caste of professional warriors, defending against external enemies, artisan castes, grain farmers and pastoralists. Above all these castes was tribal aristocracy.

Some time after the disappearance level, Russ puts your name obscheplemennomu a particular prefix that reflected their primary occupation (et'russki, p'russy).

Nomadic tribes of Slavs cattlemen began to call themselves Scots, farmers - meadows, forest dwellers - Drevlyane.

Later, there was a further separation of the Slavic tribes from each other, when, fleeing from hunger arising in Siberia during the recent cold snap, some Slavic birth left their homeland in search of new land for habitat.

Gone were taken birth in the form of self-names, the names of their leaders - princes. Rhoda, who left the Prince of Sarmatia, started calling themselves the Sarmatians, who left the Scythian prince - the Scythians.

Over time, the spin-off, the parent of Vedic culture, these Slavic tribes "overgrown" in the new lands of local culture, partly associated with the inclusion of elements of the cultures of the people with whom they lived side by side, or subdued, coming to the new land.

But it was not the other nations, it was all the same Slavs. And when, in the future, they are, for whatever reason, returned to their ancestral home, then again became a Russ.

It is for this reason that "historians" can not explain the complete disappearance of the same Sarmatians, Scythians.

They will not disappear, but just reunited with his older birth, took their family name at that time existed in the social laws.

They were, as a branch of the river Slavic tribe: branching off from the main "channel" and later re-merging with it, have made a fresh approach to the "waters of the old river bed," At that time, as a number of other "arms-tribes" forever leaving his "old mainstream "and, over time, of the" tribal sleeve "any new Slavic tribes, the new Slavic nations with greater or lesser differences in language, traditions and beliefs: the Serbs, Bulgarians, Macedonians, Croats, Czechs, Slovenes, Poles and many others .

But regardless of that, all these tribes, until the Middle Ages, remembered and knew their Slavic-Aryan Vedic empire that existed tens of thousands of years.

And it is - not the ignorant nonsense that suddenly took up history.

This is very much in evidence, and not in the form of "castles in the air," and the very real historical, archaeological and anthropological evidence, which had been ignored and silenced "historians" with diplomas and scientific degrees.

In the Southern Urals, near the village of Chandar in 1999 Chuvyrov professor discovered a stone slab on which was drawn a relief map of the West-Siberian region, made technologies unknown to modern science. Such a map can not be created today.

In addition to the natural landscape, this three-dimensional map for the creation of which, at a minimum, we need artificial satellites, the system shows two canals with a total length of twelve thousand kilometers wide by five meters, as well as twelve dams, 300-500 meters wide, long and ten kilometers and a depth of three kilometers.
Not far from the diamond-shaped channels site ...

On a stone slab were written signs caused hieroglyphic-syllabic script, which for some reason immediately attributed to the ancient Chinese language, which in the future is not completely confirmed.
We hammered the idea of ​​primitive Slavs Slav so ingrained into the brains of Russian scientists that they did not even had the idea that the inscriptions in the Slavic-Aryan runes and, with the help of the latter, all the numerous inscriptions on the stone slab can be read.

And you do not have to go to the kingdom of Far Far Away, but only to compare with the runes of the Slavic-Aryan Vedas.

It is assumed that such plates was 348, which together, creating a three-dimensional world map.

Most of these plates is probably lost forever after the Romanov "spotters stories" in the early nineteenth century, "led" the newly acquired trans-Ural territory to the right of the Romanov Empire "standard."

Back in the archival documents of the eighteenth century is mentioned on more than two hundred of these stone slabs.

Romanov "spotters stories" - almost all foreigners, often speaking in Russian, - past, under pain of death, with his "whisk the Devil" by destroying any historical traces of the Slavic-Aryan empire.

But, sooner or later, the secret is revealed. Even what's left after this "broom" that could save Russian people, often risking their lives, and who did not want to put up with how destroyed the great past of the Russian people, even those crumbs more than enough to recover fairly accurate picture of the past Russia . And these "crumbs" is found more and more ...

At the end of the twentieth century became available to the general reader Slavic-Aryan Vedas, contain a lot of interesting information that modern science is just ignored. And for good reason.http://www.city-data.com/forum/histo...t-tartary.html

I had an idea once about the Goddess Tara and her abilities and purpose. I was in a group of Goddess women and we chose a Goddess to learn about and from. She is known all over the world. She is associated with Tuadha d’Anu.

Of the younger gods of the Aryans, the Adityas, two - Tara and Bhaga - stand out prominently. As we have seen Ulick Beck and several other scholars have traced the origin of the Scythian-Irish Tuadha d’Anu to the same region as the Aryans, and have gone as far as saying that they were one and the same.

Interestingly we find that the goddess Tara - wife of Rudra, Indra’s charioteer, appears in Eire as Tara, the Hill or Rath of ghosts in County Meath, Eire. Tara was the sacred centre of the united Irish kingdom and was the seat of the Danaan Kings of Tara during the Iron Age.

Some scholars attribute the name of Tara in Eire to some complicated sounding god name which I find implausible in the light of the fact that a Goddess Tara already existed in the Scythian-Aryan pantheon. Whether Asura or Aditya, Danaan or Milesian, all of the ancient Goddess Queens were the source of sovereignty associated with sacred mounds and it seems therefore entirely appropriate to name a Sidhe rath, a portal to the otherworld and thus the source of sovereignty, after a goddess who would herself have represented sovereignty.
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/d...court02_12.htm

The Tara material I looked at was implying that She was from off world originally. So this ties in with some of the questions about alien contact? Tara that I was focusing on was Green tara. She longs for humans to be happy and free of suffering. She is a swift protector when called upon. Her 21 aspects could be seen as "21" teachings of how to approach and gain assistance form Tara.

So, as I was also reading the Bock Saga Material, I thought I came on a reference that implied the pepol (those in the far north of the original Alpahabetan) originally came form off world. I cannot find that reference (maybe the Mandala effect there for me?). The Pepol sent their sons out when the ice melted to reunite all the pepol. I imagine daughters accompanied them?

What I thought about in regard to Tara that it was not a "single" Goddess but many teachers under the TITLE of Taras. There is a significance maybe when we think about what the 21 aspects of tara are? Are they aspects of technology? Pepol brought technology and this CAN bring happiness and freedom from suffering at the mundane level?

I think that Tara is a holder of Principles that can swiftly protect and ease suffering. The allies brought them and were known as Taras who helped restore a sense of connection to power in a world where people had lost their civilization

This is Long but I'll post part

The Praise of Twenty-One Taras

The twenty-one Taras can be distinguished by the colour of their bodies, adornments and postures. They protect people from eight and sixteen kinds of fears. The eight fears are 1) danger of pride and from lions, 2) danger of torpor and from elephants, 3) danger of anger and blazing fire, 4) danger of jealousy and poisons of snakes, 5) violence of false view and of thieves, 6) danger of insatiable greed and imprisonment, 7) danger of desire and waters, 8) danger of doubts and demons. (Bokar Rinpoche)

The sixteen fears are the fear of the five elements (earth quakes, floods, wind, fire and fear of space), fear of weapons, tyrannous authority, criminals, spirits, elephants, wild animals, poisonous animals, sickness, accidents and untimely death, poverty and frustrations of hopes and plans. (Khenchen Thrangu Rinpoche)

According to old tradition the twenty aspects of Tara are visualised around the main figure. According to new terma tradition the twenty-one aspects are visualised below the main Green Tara who is thus visualised twice, because Atisha added a verse, which praises the main deity.

Green Tara (the main deity) and each of her 21 aspects are mentioned in the praise verse by verse. The twenty-one Taras are explained by Bokar Rinpoche and Ringu Tulku Rinpoche respectively along the verses. There are many different traditions for the visualization.

Preliminary stanza praising the Main Deity (added by Atisha Dipankar):

OM JET-SUN-MA PA-MA DROL-MA LA CHA-TSAL-LO
Om. I pay homage to Tara, the Noble One, the Arya

CHA-TSAL TA-RE NYUR-MA PA-MO
Namo. Tare, she who is swift, the Heroine,

TUT-TA-RE YI JI-PA SEL-MA
She who eliminates all fear with tuttare,

TU-RE DÖN-KÜN JIN-PE DROL-MA
The Saviouress who gives all benefit with ture

SOHE YI-KE CHÖ-LA DU-DO
I bow down to You, swaha.

Aspects of Tara:
(1)
CHA-TSAL DROL-MA NYUR-MA PA-MO
Namo. Tara, She who is Swift, the Heroine,

CHEN-NI KE-CHIK LO-DANG DRA-MA
She who has Eyes like instantaneous lightning

JI-TEN SUM-GÖN CHU-CHE SHAL-CHI
She who appeared from the opened blossom

GE-SAR CHE-WA LE-NI CHUNG-MA
Of the Lotus Face of the Lord of the Three Worlds (Chenrezi).

- Pravira Tara, rabtu pawai drolma, Liberating One with Perfect Courage; red. Eight arms, two hands above her head are in the mudra of great bliss holding a vajra and a bell. In the other right hands she is holding an arrow, Wheel of Dharma and a sword. In the other left hands she holds a bow, a conch and a rope. (Bokar Rinpoche)
- Nyurma pamo, the Swift One, Heroine. Red, slightly angry, slightly smiling. In her left hand she is holding a lotus and on top of the lotus there is a conch shell. All the 21 Taras are holding a lotus or utpala flower in their left hand, and the difference is only the symbol on top of that. The right hand is in the mudra of giving protection, or in the mudra of supreme giving. (Ringu Tulku)

(2)
CHA-TSAL TÖN-KE DA-WA KUN-TU
Namo. She who has the Face of a hundred completely full moons

KANG-WA JA-NI TSE-PE SHAL-MA
Of Autumn, laid one upon another.

KAR-MA TONG-DRA TSO-PA NAM-CHI
She who is shining intensely with the completely diffused light

RAB-TU CHE-WE Ö-RAB BAR-MA
Of a multitude of thousands of stars.

- Chandrakanti Tara, dadang gyi drolma, Liberating One with Moon Radiance; white. Three faces symbolize the three Bodies: right blue, centre white and left golden. She has twelve arms symbolizing the twelve interdependent factors. In her right hands she is holding a garland, a vajra, a jewel, a wheel and a khatvanga, in her left hands she holds a text, a treasure vase, a bell, a lotus and a vase. Two arms are in a meditation posture. (BR)
- Yangchenma, Sarasvati, also called tönshalma in Tibetan (tön means autumn and shal means face), meaning She who has the Face of a hundred completely full moons of autumn. She is white, shining intensely with the completely diffused light of a multitude of thousands of stars. She dispels darkness of ignorance by her strong light. On top of the lotus in her left hand there is a text or the letter hri. (RT)

(3)
CHA-TSAL SER NGO CHU NE CHE CHI
Namo. She whose Hand is perfectly adorned

PE-ME CHA-NI NAM-PAR JEN-MA
By a gold and blue lotus born from water.

JIN-PA TSÖN-DRU KA-TUB SHI-WA
She who is the embodiment of the field of activity of giving,

ZÖ-PA SAM-TEN CHÖ-YUL NYI-MA
diligence, the difficult, peace, patience and dhyana.

- Kanakavarna Tara, serdokchen gyi drolma, Golden Liberating One; golden. Ten arms symbolising the Ten Perfections. In her right hand she holds a mala (rosary), a trident, a vajra, an arrow and a sword. In her left hands she holds a silk scarf, a lasso, a lotus, a bell and a bow.
- Ser-ngo sönam chukter is giving of all virtues, all positive. Giving is her main activity. Her colour is yellow and blue; greenish, and she is holding a wishfulfilling gem on top of her flower.

(4)
CHA-TSAL DE-SHIN SHE-PE TSUK-TOR
Namo. She who has the activity of complete, infinite victory

TA-YE NAM-PAR GYAL-WAR CHÖ-MA
Upon the Ushinishas (Head-mounds) of the Tathagatas

MA-LY-PA ROL CHIN-PE TOP-PE
She, on whom the Buddha's daughters and sons

GYAL-WE SE-CHI SHIN-TU TEN-MA
Who have attained all paramitas without exception, utterly depend.

- Ushinishavijaya Tara, tsuktor nampar gyalwai drolma, Liberating One with a Perfectly Victorious Crown Protuberance; golden. She has four arms, the right hands are holding a mala and displaying the giving mudra. In her left hands she holds a stick and a vase.
- Tsuktor namgyal, tsuktor means the head mound. Golden in colour, symbol is tsebum, a life-giving vase on top of a lotus.

(5)
CHA-TSAL TUT-TA-RA HUNG YI-GE
Namo. She who fills Desire, Direction and Space

DÖ-DANG CHÖ-DANG NAM-KHA GANG-MA
With tuttara and the syllable hung

JI-TEN DUN-PO SHAP-CHI NEN-TE
She who has the power to squash down the seven worlds with her Feet

LU-PA ME-PAR GU-PAR NU-MA
And summon all without exception.

- Humsvara-nadini Tara, hum dra drokpay drolma, Liberating One Producing the sound Hum (Hung); yellow. Two arms, with her right hand in a protecting mudra and the left in the mudra of Three Jewels, holding a lotus.
- Rikchema, her colour is very dark red, almost brown. She holds a bow and arrow on top of a lotus and her activity is to summon and empower everything. She is victorious over three realms: desire realm, form realm (“direction”) and formless realm (“space”).

(6)
CHA-TSAL JA-CHIN ME-LHA TSANG-PA
Namo. She to whom Indra, Agni, Brahma, Pavana

LUNG-LHA NA-TSO WONG-CHU CHÖ-MA
And the Various Great Gods make offerings

JUNG-PO RO-LANG DRI-SA NAM DANG
She who is praised by multitudes of bhutas, vetalas

NÖ-JIN TSO-CHI DUN-NE TÖ-MA
Gandharvas and yakshas gathered before Her.

- Trailokya-vijaya Tara, jikten sumlay nampar gyalway drolma, Liberating One, Victorious over the Three Worlds; red. She has four arms, right hands holding a sword and a vajra, left hands holding a rope and displaying the threatening mudra.
- The usual Green Tara, called tsenden ngachi drolma, the Drolma of Sandalwood Forest. She is holding a lotus flower, sometimes a wheel on it, but usually just blue lotus or utpala flower, which is bluish. Her activity is to summon (call) and to give fearlessness.

(7)
CHA-TSAL TRE CHE CHA-TANG PHE CHI
Namo. She who completely defeats the magical devices of adversaries

PHA-ROL TRUL-KOR RAB-TU JOM-MA
By what is named trad and phat

YE-KUM YÖN-CHANG SHAB-CHI NEN-TE
She who squashes down with Her legs, the right indrawn, the left extended,

ME-BAR DRU-PA SHIN-TU BAR-MA
And blazes intensely with whirling blazing fire.

- Vadipramardaka Tara, golwa jompay drolma, Liberating One, Victorious over Hostility; black. Wrathful with four arms, right hands holding a sword and wheel, left hands displaying the threatening mudra and holding a rope.
- Zigchedma shishig serngo, red in colour, holds a dagger (phurba, kilaya) on top of a lotus. Her activity is to defeat negativity.

Seven wrathful aspects:
(8)
CHA-TSAL TU-RE JI-PA CEN-MÖ
Namo. Ture, the Great Terroress,

DU-CHI PA-WO NAM-PAR JOM-MA
Who completely vanquishes the Mara-Warriors

CHU-CHE SHAL-NI TRO-NYER DEN-DZE
She who has a Lotus-Face grimacing angrily,

DRA-WO TAM-CHE MA-LU SÖ-MA
Who slays all enemies without exception.

- Vashitottamada Tara, wangchuck terway drolma, Liberating One Who Gives the Sublime Empowerment; golden. She is seated on makara (sea monster) and has four arms, right hands holding a branch of the ashoka tree and a jewel, left hands holding a vase and a lotus.
- Chensi motu, black in colour, very wrathful, holding a sword. Her quality is to give the power of invincibility.

(9)
CHA-TSAL KÖN-CHOK SUM-TSÖN CHA JI
Namo. She who's Heart is perfectly adorned

SOR-MO TU-KAR NAM-PAR JEN.MA
By Her fingers in the Mudra symbolising the Three Jewels,

MA-LY CHO-CHI KOR-LO JEN-PE
She who whirls her own multitude of lights,

RAN-GI Ö-CHI TSO-NAM DRU-MA
Adorning the wheel of all directions without exception.

- Varada Tara, chok tsolway drolma, Liberating One Who Grants the Sublime; red. She has four arms, two hands above her head in the mudra of joy, holding a vajra and bell. The other right hand is in a mudra of (?) and the other left hand is holding a branch of the ashoka tree.
- Chen migyalma, it means would not get the other, the negative aspect or force to get victory. She is red in colour, very wrathful, holding a dorje.

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[modwiz]

I once did some research on Tartaria. I will try to find some of my references. This is about tartaria



Here is a reference to a Tara and her brother in the naming of Tartaria.

https://books.google.com/books?id=uZ...20tara&f=false

I had an idea once about Tara and her abilities and purpose. I was in a group of Goddess women and we chose a Goddess to learn about and from.

The Tara material I looked at was implying that she was from off world originally. So this ties in with some of the questions about alien contact? Tara that I was focusing on was Green tara. She longs for humans to be happy and free of suffering. She is a swift protector when called upon. Her 21 aspects could be seen as "21" teachings of how to approach and gain assistance form Tara.

So, as I was also reading the Bock Saga Material, I thought I came on a reference that implied the pepol (those in the far north of the original Alpahabetan) originally came form off world. I cannot find that reference (maybe the Mandala effect there for me?). The Pepol sent their sons out when the ice melted to reunite all the pepol. I imagine daughters accompanied them?

What I thought about in regard to Tara that it was not a "single" Goddess but many teachers under the TITLE of Taras. There is a significance maybe when we think about what the 21 aspects of tara are? Are they aspects of technology? Pepol brought technology and this CAN bring happiness and freedom from suffering at the mundane level?

I think that Tara is a holder of Principles that can swiftly protect and ease suffering. The allies brought them and were known as Taras who helped restore a sense of connection to power in a world where people had lost their civilization

This is Long but I'll post part

I see and like the Tara connection, (looked at your link). Playing with anagrams, how I came up with an Aratta/Tartaria connection, Tara can give us Arat. Thank you for providing the link.

[Maggie]

am reviewing this one


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjW4Fr6vDuA

[Maggie]

I see and like the Tara connection, (looked at your link). Playing with anagrams, how I came up with an Aratta/Tartaria connection, Tara can give us Arat. Thank you for providing the link.

Love your connection there Modwiz!

I am just now reading this and fascinated

Slav-Aryan Vedas

Slav-Aryan Vedas (further – simply „Vedas’’) in a broad sense represent a set of ancient documents of Slav and Aryan peoples non-outlined precisely, including the precisely dated and having authorship works as well as national legends, tales, bylinas, etc., told and written down recently.

„Perun’s Vedas Santees’’ are meant only as Vedas in narrow sense (Books of Knowledge or Perun’s Wisdom Books), consisting of nine books, dictated by our first ancestor, the God Perun, to our far ancestors while their third arrival to the Earth on the spaceship Waitman, in 38 004 B.C. (or 40 009 years ago). Only the first book of these Vedas was translated into Russian nowadays.

As a whole Vedas contain a profound knowledge about nature and reflect Humanity history in the Earth during last several hundred thousand years, – at least, not less than 600 000 years. They also contain Perun’s prediction of the future events for 40 176 years ahead, i.e. until nowadays and 167 years ahead.


Vedas in its basis, on which they were written originally down, are divided into three basic groups:

- satees are the plates of gold or other precious metal, without affect with corrosion on which texts were put by stamping signs and filling them with paint. Then these plates were fastened by three rings like books or made out in the oak framework and framed by a red cloth;

- charatiys are the sheets or rolls of high-quality parchment with texts;

- volchvaries are wooden plates with the texts written or cut out.

Santees are the most ancient of known documents. Originally „Perun’s Vedas Santees’’ were called as Vedas, but there are mentions of others Vedas in them, which even at that time, i.e. more 40.000 years ago, named Ancient and which either are lost, or stored in secluded places and not disclosed for any reasons currently. Santees reflect the most secret Ancient Knowledge. It is possible even to tell that they are archive of knowledge. By the way, Indian Vedas is only a part of Slav-Aryan Vedas, transferred by arias about 5.000 years ago to India.

As a rule charatiys were santees copies, or, probably, writing out of santees, intended for wider use in the priestly habitat. The most ancient charatiys are „Charatiys of Light’’ (the Book of Wisdom) which were written down 28 736 years ago (or, to be exact, from 20 August till 20 September, 26 731 B.C.). As it is easier to write down charatiys than to make santees engraving on gold, so extensive historical data were written down in such a kind.

So, for example, charatiys under the name „Avesta’’ were written down on 12 000 bull’s skins 7.513 years ago along with the war history of Slav-Aryan peoples with Chinese. The peace conclusion between fighting parties was called as the World Creation in the Star Temple (W.C.S.T.). And a year according to our ancient calendar in which this peace concluded was called as the Star Temple.

It was the first world war in the Earth’s history, and this event was so tremendous, and the victory was so significant for White Race that served as a reference point for new chronology introduction. Since then all white peoples counted summers from the World Creation. And this chronology was cancelled only by Peter Romanov I in 1 700 who imposed the Byzantine calendar to us as only the Romanovs come to power with the help of the Byzantine Empire. And „Avesta’’ itself was destroyed by Alexander the Great on an instigation of the Egyptian priests so the World Creation in the Star Temple didn’t throw the light onto „the world creation’’, described under their dictation in the Bible.

„Vlesov’s Book’’ written down (perhaps, gradually by several authors) on wooden plates and reflecting the history of Southeast Europe peoples during one and a half thousand years till the Kiev Russia christening can be named among volkhvaries. Volkhvaries were intended for the Magi – our ancient clergy of old believers, whence the name of these documents went as well. Volkhvaries were methodically destroyed by Christian church.

Slav-Aryan peoples had four basic letters in antiquity – according to the number of basic White Race Clans. The most ancient of the kept documents, i.e. santees were written down by Ancient х’Aryan Runes or Runic as they are still called. Ancient Runes are neither letters nor hieroglyphs in our modern understanding, but some kind of the secret images transmitting huge volume of Ancient Knowledge. They include tens of signs, which are written down under the common line, named celestial. Signs designate figures, letters and separate things or phenomena – or frequently used, or very important.

X’Aryan Runic served as a basis for creation of the simplified letter forms during ancient times: ancient Sanskrit, Lines and Rezovs, Devanagary, German-Scandinavian Runes,Vincha in Serbia, and many others. It also became the basis of all modern alphabets together with other Slav-Aryan Clans letters, beginning with old Slav and finishing with Cyrillic and Latin. So Cyril with Mephodiy didn’t invent our spelling – they only created one of its convenient variants that was caused by the necessity of Christianity distribution in Slav languages.

It is necessary to add also, that Slav-Aryan Vedas are kept by Priests-keepers or Capen-Engling, i.e. Keepers of Ancient Wisdom, at Slav-Aryan Heathens (temples) of Old Russian Englieest Church of Orthodox Old Believers-Englieests. Exact storage places are not specified anywhere, as the certain forces tried to destroy our Ancient Wisdom during last thousand years. Time of these forces domination comes to an end nowadays, and Vedas keepers started to translate them into Russian and publish. Currently only one of nine books „Perun’s Vedas santees’’ is translated with reductions. But it is in a narrow sense as for Vedas. And in a broad sense Vedas pieces are stored in different places by all white peoples – descendants of those Slav-Aryan Clans that occupied our Earth the first.

By the way, it is necessary to note also, that Engliya (whence there was a name of old believers church) is a certain stream, more likely, energy in all its kinds which proceeds from uniform and incomprehensible God-creator Ra-M-Hi. This stream arises in the center of matter congestion at galaxy formation and is connected to the stars birth. Except for Ra-M-Hi our far ancestors esteemed their first ancestors and curators, whom they also considered as gods. They also invented special images which allowed to concentrate attention and will of people majority for the nature forces control, for example, the call of a rain (and people – as small gods, therefore they should unite their will and mental energy for great deals). These images also were called as gods. Thus, our ancestors had three kinds of gods headed by the god whom they named as Ra-M-Hi. continue here http://vesna.atlantidaforum.com/?p=844

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Our Ancestors were visited by many other Gods as well.Tarkh was the patron (curator) of the Eastern Siberia and Far East, and Tara was the patron of the Western Siberia. The territory name became Tarkhtara commonly, descendants recalled it as Tartariya, and then this name was removed to the name of Tatars people. The God Perun visited the Midguard-land more than 40 thousand years ago from the Uray-land in the Eagle Hall on Swarozh (heavenly) Circle, he visited it the third time. He was the god-patron of all soldiers and many Great Race Clans. The god-Thundered managing with Lightnings, the son of God Swaroga and Lada-virgin. After first three Heavenly Fights between Light and Darkness when Light Forces won, the God Perun went down onto the Midguard-land to tell people about happened events and what expects Lands in the future, about approach of Dark times. Dark times represent the period of people life when they cease to honor Gods and live under Heavenly Laws and start to live under the laws which the representatives of Pekelny World imposed to them. They teach people to create laws and live according to them, so they aggravate their life, lead to degradations and self-destruction. There are Legends, that God Perun visited the Midguard-land some more times to tell Secret Wisdom to Priests and Elders of Saint Race Clans, how to prepare for dark, heavy times, when the sleeve of our swastika galaxy will pass through the spaces subjected to the forces from the Hell Dark Worlds. At this time Light Gods cease to visit their peoples, as they do not penetrate into another’s spaces, subjected to forces of these Worlds. Light Gods will start to visit Great Races Clans again with our Galaxy sleeve output from the specified spaces. The beginning of Light times starts in Sacred Summer 7 521 from W.C.S.T. or in 2 012 A.D. Then Dazhdbog arrived onto the Midguard-land – God Tarkh Perunovich, the God-keeper of ancient Great Wisdom. He was called as Dazhdbog (the giving God) because he gave people of Great Race and Heavenly Clan descendants Nine Santees (Books). These Santees were written down by ancient Runes and contained Sacred Ancient Vedas, Precepts of Tarkh Perunovich and his preaches. All inhabitants in various Worlds (Galaxies, Star Systems) and Lands, where representatives of the Ancient Clan live, live according to Ancient Wisdom, Patrimonial Principles and Rules that Clan adheres. They began to call themselves as „Dazhdbog grandsons’’ after visiting our Ancestors by God Tarkh Perunovich. Our Ancestors were visited by many other Gods as well.http://vesna.atlantidaforum.com/?p=844

This may be seen on phenomenon of 2012. According to the Vedas the subject is not end of the Mayan Calendar - indeed, other 300 Indian calendars come to the end too. This is a real astronomical event associated with the movement of our solar system - and these things can be precisely calculated well in advance. Of course, that will have consequences, but it will not be the blank game of elements.

We transcend the Galactic border of two Worlds, we return home. The forces of the World of Light will take their property back. However, the issue will not be one day in December 2012 CE - whether for us the year is 7520. But that we write in more detail later.

There have appeared a few initiative individuals who often do not even have elementary knowledge of the Slavic concept of the world, but they deal with the introduction of as if Slavic traditions, leading to the creation of colorful, variously oriented religious groups. ...........When we return back to the Slavic concept of the world it is necessary to say that it not only included the organization of life, but also knowledge of the architecture of the world, of the solar system of Yarila-Sun, of the human and our past, on the mutual interaction with the Earth, of the impact of space-galactic processes on human development, humanity as such etc.

From some angles, the worldview of Slavs and Aryans surpasses knowledge that is available to current science. Texts of Slavic-Aryan Vedas come back to the ancient past. They are not a "copy" of Indian Vedas. For example, the Rig-Vedas describe the mysterious white Aryans, who in ancient times crossed the mountains (Himalayas) and brought to the ancestors of the Indians the knowledge - Vedas.

Similar information can be found in Old Persian Avesta (Aria-Vesta). Also, the British author Arthur Kemp summarized the history of white in the book The March of the Titans, subtitled A History of White Race. It is indeed interesting reading.

Why do we know nothing of our Vedas today? They have replaced the real story by history, faith by religion, culture by civilization, and so on. These are not equivalent meanings, and certainly not the play of words. History of physical destruction of Vedas includes both the burning of books as well as physical destruction of the holders of ancient culture.

The so-called Great Moravia was actually part of Kiev Russia and Christianity was introduced to Russia by the so called “holy” knyaz Vladimir of Kiev, who allowed its creators -- the Crusaders -- to enter the country. Baptizing of Slavs lasted since year 988 till 1000 CE. While in year 988 the Kiev Russia had 13 million inhabitants in 1000 only 4 million.

Real story replaced "pious" monks by history and an evidence of the slaughter simply would not fit in.<br />Only surviving were old men and young children. Old men gradually died out and the children were taken by the monks to the Christian monasteries for controlled re-education. That is why nothing of the Vedas left in Slovakia of today.

Slavic-Aryan Vedas survived the millennium only secretly in Siberia, and some of them in Iceland. After a long time they were published in Russia in 1949. Stalin needed in the fight against fascism all, and therefore granted all the churches freedom, among them ancient, pre-Christian Pravoslavnaya Church of Old (Ancient) Believers (Pravoslavye has in fact nothing to do with Christianity and was – as usually - violently taken away from Old Believers in the 17th century for the price of 2 million victims). Freedom had quickly expired and further persecution followed. Last man was jailed for Ancient Slavic faith in 1986.<br />It is curious that some of the books of aforementioned issue of Slavic-Aryan Vedas were brought to Hollywood, USA by immigrants. Using data derived from them enabled to create popular phenomenon Star Gates, which is in fact described in the Vedas as Gates of Inter-Worlds. Although the events associated with these films are fantasies of directors, the terminology taken from Vedas is real.http://www.slavorum.org/forum/discus...ic-aryan-vedas