When the Atlantis survivors wake up

[bsbray]

I've been planning a week-long trip to some ancient mound sites in West Virginia and Ohio next month. We'll see if it works out, but if it does, I'm going to take a video camera and take lots of footage of the museum exhibits and mounds themselves and I'll post them here.

[Elen]

I've been planning a week-long trip to some ancient mound sites in West Virginia and Ohio next month. We'll see if it works out, but if it does, I'm going to take a video camera and take lots of footage of the museum exhibits and mounds themselves and I'll post them here.

I will be looking forward to it!

[bsbray]

I should say though that I don't think the Mound Builders were around at the same time as the people who were building the giant megalithic stone stuff. I think they made actually be descendants of that culture though, where they occupied around the Gulf States, and there are strong resemblances between the northern Mound Builders (in the Ohio Valley) and the pre-historic mound-building cultures of Europe, especially the mounds in the British Isles. I've been reading books on these mounds for a few months and comparing information, and that's my working hypothesis so far.


These two pictures represent two different kinds of mounds found in the northern half of the US, mostly east of the Mississippi:





The first is a typical conical mound and the second is an effigy mound, apparently of a serpent swallowing an egg, or some think depicting a meteor (a meteor did impact nearby in the historic past). The two types of mounds may represent two different branches or maybe two different cultures entirely, but most effigy mounds are found in Minnesota.

The mounds from the Gulf states, Tennessee, Georgia, and up the Mississippi to St. Louis, are typically truncated and look more like Mexican pyramids, except made out of dirt instead of giant stones. These are very primitively built compared to the megalithic stone structures in Middle and South America, but still appear as though they may be an imitation or predecessor of the megalithic stone structures. I believe the dirt mounds in the US came after the stone megalithic structures, and were built by either the same tribes or descendants of the same tribes that the Europeans encountered. I believe these people were descendants of survivors of a global cataclysm, and the civilization before the cataclysm was the one building the much more sophisticated stone megaliths.

These are typical of the southern truncated mounds:





Why didn't the megalith-building civilizations of present-day Peru, Central America and Mexico migrate north and build giant stone pyramids and walls in the US? Because before the cataclysm, when they were thriving, there was an ice age and most of North America was covered glaciers and massive ice sheets. In New York the ice sheet is estimated to have been reached about two miles thick. This is all conventional geology. Then "something" happened and the ice age suddenly ended. And after the ice age is precisely when these people with more primitive technology started appearing in North America and building mounds.

I also believe that all of this occurred much more recently than the 12,000 years ago that geologists cite for the end of the ice age and people like Graham Hancock cite as the time of the epoch-ending disaster. Velikovsky has suggested massive cataclysms as recently as round 2000 - 1500 BC, and all of this stuff starts tying right into Fomenko's work, though Fomenko himself is not a catastrophist.

[Aianawa]

Published on 4 Sep 2016
This is an entirely new episode, not just a revision of the old version.

Here Sylvie is going through the repetitive explanations by the authorities about the Roman architecture found everywhere. Tool marks, stonemasonry and aqueducts all over the ancient sites which is always attributed to the Romans.

Did the Romans invent bikinis? Are we supposed to believe it, or could bikinis be much older than what is visible on the mosaic pictures. The Roman clothing can be proved to be older than the Roman era and is still used in parts of the world today like Russia and India.

Take a look at the Indus Valley complex which is considered older than the Roman where there is clear evidence of a well planned building site with irrigation, streets and organised components. Here people just died in the streets without anybody to bury them and it is a mystery to the "quacademics" who are unable to consider explanations outside their own parameters, ignoring the legends that tell us what really happened.

Further on, our history is re-written, where the original books were "accidentally" burnt while the copies "survived". Joseph Scaliger and Dionysius Petavius, French Jesuit scholars and religious reformists changed our official history in the 16th century. Unfortunately, nothing from the original texts survived the reformation. Most of our official history today is based on the work of these two people. And when the small group of Jesuit monks did the copies it was written in the preface that they were making it fit the new history.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk-o42NNQm4


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Thanks, was xlent and really looking forward to the next one being talked about.

[Elen]

A thorough analysis of carbon dating and it's validity. There is evidence that the science of carbon dating is at it's best inaccurate, but the worst case scenario shows it to be misleading and that the results can be "doctored" to fit the preconceived idea about our history.

The Reformation Period (1517-1648) changed the ruling elite in different parts of the world, i.e. people without the right to rule were put on the throne. She (Sylvie) questions the historical data that the Roman Catholic Church had unlimited power in those days…

The Empire of the Survivors was destroyed as well as the memory of it. Future documentaries will be about the descendants who remember who they are and who has also kept a great deal of the knowledge that survived.

For those who have watched the old version - no new information as such, only the video / audio quality is improved.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2xUCyi727Y

[Elen]

What happens when really ancient books surface here and there? We are so used to the Scaliger version of history that we don't notice them, they are available online in a translated form, but of course have little relevance to the topics of changing history back to it's original timeline.

How about the "Vindolanda Tablets" found in England and the "Oxyrhyndus Papyri" found in Egypt, as well as the Charred Scrolls of Herculaneum?

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KmQPcNwDww


more on the stolen history of the Dacian kings
http://www.romanianhistoryandculture....
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS83X...

and more relevant to the subject at hand links

http://vindolanda.csad.ox.ac.uk
https://archive.org/stream/TheOxyrhyn...
https://books.google.at/books?id=O2mu...
http://news.discovery.com/history/anc...

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And if you like the NewEarth research approach please help spread the word of the directory of amazing historic sites www.megaliths.org

[Innocent Warrior]

Only discovering the awesomeness of this thread now, big thanks.

[Dreamtimer]

Yeah. This is some of my favorite stuff.

[Elen]

Join Sylvie on a tour of Malta for 8 days in December. The details of the itinerary or for booking is here: http://www.megaliths.org/ancient_his...xpeditions.php

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsxlbAEclVA

[modwiz]

As some of Sylvie's videos have pointed out, Christianity and Islam not only existed in harmony but, even some synthesis. I saw this photo of the largest mosque in Turkey and saw how its inspiration was the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul/Constantinople. I thought I would post the two for comparison. Turkish mosque , Kocatepe, will be top picture and Hagia Sophia, originally built by Christian Emperor Justinian ll, will be underneath. Minarets are later additions to Hagia Sophia. Maybe.

[Maggie]

I want to alert us to Jengelen's IMO fascinating post on another thread http://jandeane81.com/threads/9909-N...#post841957297

Speaking of a truth initiative I think there are several making money off of so called mysteries that are not really mysteries so much anymore. Many recent videos have come forward with other histories including the excellent work of NewEarth video documentation and the very noteworthy work of Gabi Plum (forgive spelling) I love her new films Skeletons in the Cupboard Ep. 1 The Red Haired Peoples and Ep 2 also for that matter but all her work is stunning and well documented and worth watching.

Others? They appear to be simply invested in tour and continuing the mystery even when its well known its solved and we know now who they were, what they did, why its covered over and more.
The simple fact is they hide these long skull finds, especially the ones with red and blond hair because of what these fair skinned, red headed, blond headed, sandy headed or green or blue eyed Hominids did to the round skull peoples of the world, that is to say, the homo sapiens sapiens species was abused and eaten by these cone heads and this is well known among scholars! They ate the round skulls!! Get that??? The long skulls hunted and ate the round skulls!! It is well documented in New Zealand and Australian tales and books and its also quite well known all through the Samoans, the Fiji Isles and Easter Island AKA, Rapa Nui!

Remember that these ones ate human meat. Its believed by many to be perhaps how and where RH negative blood came from! But its not talked about much. Now that its important!!! Why is this not talked about!? Its very simple. Let me explain as its no mystery. Patuko (Pa Two Ko) was knonw as Patuko the Long Skull and he lived on the Island of Putrification AKA the Isle of Death!!! Type in these words and read! Here Be Cannibals on cannibalism in New Zealand and then the same for Cannibalism in the Fiji Islands. Then when you feel like watching real history sit down and make yourself watch Skeletons in the Cupboard The Red Haired People here on youtube!! That will catch you up!

Once digested realize Patuko is a relative of Pakal the Mayan king that they actually found, but never publicly allowed anyone to see or go over the finds! Only those in the inner circle got to see this 9 foot giant with a long skull! And they leaked it and he has red hair, he ate humans, demanded sacrifice and the reason all of the *******s are wrapped up and buried as they are is because they were hunted down and killed off best we can tell by the Polynesians and a famous king of theirs and many many many white scholars think its a bad idea to rehash this and bring it up now! The fact is Black Lives Matter is out of control now we don't need to add this to the mix to give them and others yet more reasons to hate fair skinned red heads or blond haired or blue eyed people!!!

These beings, whatever they were they were different! They knew it, they considered themselves above the round skulls which they hunted for food and referred to as the 'long pig' and they said it tasted sweeter than pig by a lot and they preferred it! This was not just going on with victory over other tribes as it evolved into among tribes that adopted or took on some of their ways because they were hybridized relatives of them living on remote islands. For all anyone knows some of them still reside there and still eat a human now and then but we hope we got them all!

It was not homo sapiens sapiens it was another creature, another hominid, one of many others and it roamed with us here at one time, and it ruled actually related to Pharaohs and you can see that in Aknaeton and other children of his which again were rejected at or about this same time as the other wars among these long skulls and it was said to be a great war! A war fought over many countries that went over the ocean as the ones hunting were relentless until they caught them all and rounded the last of them up at Paracus where they offered up as slaves, prisoners offered to the gods to help in effort to clean up the world!

Some of theese ones were giant stature and had six fingers and toes as reported in the bible also about the Anakim and they are also the same tribe of long heads that were found in and along the Mississippi in the 1800s and 1900s in the USA. While there are differences as apparently one species of long skull went out more to the sides, one other went out the back and one other went up more than back but they are all related to each other! Different tribes is all from various corners of the globe! One in the mountiains of Afghanistan and into the Steppes of Russia and others in the Americas and still more and the majority in the south Pacific and all along Peru and that coast into Mexico. These clans of long skulls clashed with many tribes and ate of them also preferring their first born and they also selected certain few they were trading with and apparently had compatibility with that led to these hybrids that had long skulls but were no taller than 6 foot perhaps a little more!

That is what we know so far and that is just the tip of the iceberg for summary here. They bury these guys because they don't want to stir up more race hatred! End of story sorry for the long post. Anyway, I'd like to seem more forthcoming of the facts as we know them from people I have come to trust and like watching but when they ignore finds they obviously are aware of to instead continue pushing the mystery as if its 'alien' one has to wonder> Nothing alien has been discovered its all terrestrial DNA its just DNA from another species we have never seen. Thanks for reading.

here is a link to the new video from peter Marsh and Gabi Plumm

Skeletons in the Cupboard. Episode 2. Under The Carpet


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-HhfbCk2oU


I think that the possibility and the frightful context presented by a Long head/ Short head conflict idea is very interesting. It is almost unthinkable yet WE EAT ANIMALS WE CONSIDER LESS "CONSCIOUS". WE have pets in dogs and cats and other creatures but the Chinese and others eat dogs and cats and all animals. Cannibalism still exists in very small amounts but exists.

Cannibalism is IMO a taboo but still exists in many "forms" and the horror of this is fear inducing.
It makes sense that survival imperative shapes "humanity".
The arising of war and flesh eating out of the chaos of world wide catastrophies?.
The thought I have is in the video. Catyclysmic events may have been the breeding ground for "fight for survuval" and the created war, the use of cannibalism, "catastrophobia" as a mental mind set, the rise of sedentary farming, civilization as sets of "citystate" survival enclaves.' make perfect sense for origination of the war to the finish that caused the extinction of a whole different race of hominids (or MANY?)

[Elen]

There is more to this than just predictions, and I'm willing to look further with Sylvie as to the young Russian Otrok Vyacheslav. As you know, I'm not into predictions of any kind so take what you want from this video. This young man was born into a family that was deeply religious and so his experiences would of course be coloured by it. None the less, there are things to be considered valid amongst the info that is given.

Published on 25 Sep 2016
News from the Russian Alternative History Reserach realms
Recently the leader of LAH Andrey Sklayrov departed for the realms beyond death (all of a sudden). He deserves respect - because of him millions of people in Russia understood that their grandparents were not apes...

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuJ2hnEwREY

[Dreamtimer]

Vyacheslav is anglicized as Wenceslaus.

It means greater glory.

[Novusod]

This may be unpopular but I have to disagree 100% with Sylvie on this one. The prophecies of Otrok Vyacheslav just sounds like the ravings of the average "Jesus freak." These doom prophets are a dime a dozen especially of the fundamentalist Christian variety. This line of end times prophecy represents probably a majority opinion of the bible thumpers out there. I always warn people "Don't drink the cool aid." What they are preaching is the complete opposite of real spiritual growth is about.

It all boils down to demiurge worship. The god of calamities and disasters says love and worship the Lord your God OR ELSE. I can't emphasize the or else part enough. The demiurge is the complete opposite of what a real god should be. Love us by destroying us. That is a farce. If you take the "Jesus freak" message and flip it upside down does it not make more sense? God will continue to love all people no matter how many mistakes they make. Or would you rather worship the demiurge who threatens humanity with total destruction for the slightest infractions. I almost see this as a sentience test. Is man smart enough to know who the real god is? Will man worship the Lord God who threatens mankind with destruction or will man look for a higher God of universal love.

ON the subject of the Mark of the beast:

This is the mark of the beast 100% absolute proven. The mark of the beast is your 3rd eye. Hands sprouting from the forehead is simply how ancient Egyptians described the awakening of the 3rd eye, astral projection, and remote viewing. The powers that be (or were) have been doing everything thing they can to keep the 3rd eye of the general population forced shut. Fluoride, chemtrails, vaccines, mercury tooth fillings, toxic GMO foods, and host of other contrived ills all represent a war on the 3rd eye.



Take the mark of the beast. I already have and so has anyone else who has done remote viewing or astral projection.

[Elen]

Compliments of Gio for this one, found it on his thread on PA. Thanks Gio!

Cara St. Louis talks about Sylvie Ivanowa, Anatoly Fumenko and the New Chronology. More conformation to the validity of their research giving us a little more "meat on the bone".

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjWFkpuNJ2A


Published on 16 Aug 2016

In the latest episode of The Higherside Chats, Greg Carlwood hosts returning guest Cara St. Louis. On her previous appearance, she outlined the details of the new chronology, the missing time phenomenon, the mind weapon we call the Prussian Education System and the dumbing down it facilitates.

As Cara looked deeper into the narrative of history, missing time and those who question it, she found more than enough meat on those bones and set out on her new venture: a series of episodic titles she calls The Workbook. Join them as they go for the conspiratorial one-two punch of the highest order as we explore Missing time and the New Chronology.

4:00 Greg and Cara begin by giving some context on the New Chronology. Cara details her path of initiation starting with the work of Sylvie' Ivanowa and leading to Russian astronomer and mathematician,Anatoly Fomenko. Cara explains that the timeline used by today's elite, contributes to the justification of things such as wars and the rising of certain dynastic families. Using astronomical events, such as the cycles of the moon, movements of the planets and eclipses, we are able to see the manipulation of humankind's understanding of history.

11:30 Knowing our current timeline may be completely inaccurate, Greg and Cara discuss the ways in which establishments such as the Catholic church were capable of altering the dates of history to fit their desired paradigm. Cara contends Jesuits scholars Scaliger and his contemporary Dionysius Petavias, with the help of Benedictine monks, at the will of the Vatican, and against all history fiction or science rewrote chronology to pre-date the existence of Christianity. Further illustrating her point, Cara also explains that all astronomical evidence dates Jesus' period of existence to Medieval times, which gravely affects our current chronology.

15:00 Digging deeper into the Jesuit's brutal involvement in the Prussian education system, Cara briefly lays out the bullet points and a few keys players from along the way, including Pope Pius X.

24:42 Greg and Cara continue to put a point on the finer details of the key figures involved in altering the timeline. One such contributing character was none other than esteemed mathematician, astronomer and physicist, Isaac Newton.

28:00 Cara makes the case against the flat earth theory by contending that it discredits traditional astronomy.

29:45 Greg and Cara examine the work of Ivanowa involving the decedents of Atlantis whom she refers to as "the Survivors". Known as the keepers of the peace, the Survivors imparted knowledge to the indigenous people who in turn used their culture of oral storytelling to spread this knowledge for generations. Cara details the what she believes to be a critical moment in the lost history, the Battle of Moytura, a literal fairy tale taking place in Ireland.

38:00 Cara continues to detail her path of research for listeners. As a self-identified Faye, Cara believes the Faye exist in a different way. Cara outlines her theory, stating the Faye have been and may still be an extra-terrestrial race, as well as existing intra–dimensionally.
Listen as Cara and Greg discuss the tumultuous relationship between the Faye and Drakos.

46:00 The scope of the human mind is endless. With the recent calls to creative types from CERN, Cara elaborates on the theory they may be attempting to harness the imagination to control and disrupt the morphogenetic field.

51:00 Listen as Cara describes the current landscape of terror, anxiety and fear being used to manipulate, weaken and control the population.

58:40 Greg and Cara continue to trace missing time conspiracy and this alternative history through the rule of Nero in Rome. With disparities in the timeline becoming more evident as we narrow in on details of history, Cara explains the fallacies in our current understanding of history.