The One Truth's Lounge Thread

[Aragorn]

They're interesting for sure ... they're not Neo-Nazis or anything like that, huh

Not that I know of, no.

[Emil El Zapato]

Not that I know of, no.

Just wanted to be sure ...

[Aragorn]

They're interesting for sure ... they're not Neo-Nazis or anything like that, huh

Not that I know of, no.

Just wanted to be sure ...

Source: Wikipedia

Political views

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The band wrote the song "Links 2-3-4" (Links being German for "left") as a riposte to early claims that the band were neo-Nazis, and to affirm that they reside on the left side of the political spectrum. In a 2011 interview with Rolling Stone, when asked about Nazi accusations, Lindemann stated "We come from the East and we have grown up as socialists. We used to be either punks or Goths – we hate Nazis! And then, such a far-fetched accusation. We are doing exactly the same thing today, but no one in America or in Mexico would even get the idea to come up with something like that. This only happens in Germany. Our reply to this animosity was, "Links 2-3-4", and with that, we had made it clear where we stand politically." Regarding the song, Kruspe said: "'My heart beats on the left, two, three, four'. It's simple. If you want to put us in a political category, we're on the left side, and that's the reason we made the song". The song's title refers to the refrain of the German Communist Party song Einheitsfrontlied, written by Bertholt Brecht: "Drum links, zwei, drei! Drum links, zwei, drei! / Wo dein Platz, Genosse ist! / Reih dich ein, in die Arbeitereinheitsfront / Weil du auch ein Arbeiter bist". (Then left, two, three! Then left, two, three! / Here's the place, Comrade, for you! / So fall in with the Workers' united front / For you are a worker too.) Another key lyric expressing the band's allegiance to the left paraphrases the titles of newspaper columns published side by side for several years in the German newspaper Bild: "Mein Herz schlägt links" ("My heart beats on the left") by The Left Party co-chair and former Social Democratic Party of Germany chair Oskar Lafontaine, and "Mein Herz schlägt auf dem rechten Fleck" ("My heart beats in the right place") by Peter Gauweiler of the conservative Christian Social Union. Lorenz stated that the song was created to show the band could write a harsh, evil, military-sounding song without being Nazis.

The band also wrote the song "Amerika" as a critique of the worldwide cultural and political imperialism of the United States. In their book Envisioning Social Justice in Contemporary German Culture, Jill E. Twark and Axel Hildebrandt found that the song's text and most of its video's images point toward a critique of America's cultural imperialism, political propaganda, and self-assumed role as global police force. The song responds critically to the US invasion of Iraq in 2003. They also found that another song of theirs that is critical of the United States is "Mein Land", believing that it critiques American racism and nationalism.

During the Eastern European leg of their Europe Stadium Tour, the band showed support for the LGBT community on several occasions. At a concert in Chorzów, Poland on 24 July 2019, drummer Christoph Schneider surfed the crowd in a rubber boat, holding a rainbow flag. At their concert in Moscow five days later, guitarists Kruspe and Landers kissed onstage, while they embraced each other during a concert in Saint Petersburg on 2 August. The band's support for gay rights was met with criticism from some Russian politicians. Vitaly Milonov, a member of the State Duma called the band "idiots" and said: "If they think it possible to behave in such a way, they should also consider it possible to keep this garbage away from us."

Source: Wikipedia

[Emil El Zapato]

[Political views - Rammstein]

Well, they're not apolitical it would seem ...

[Lord Sidious]

Hey El Sid, Are you familiar with these guys, I've decided I actually like their music. It has a surprising, to me anyway, a melodic hook. It's different some how.

Of course.
I'm a big fan.

They're interesting for sure ... they're not Neo-Nazis or anything like that, huh

Nope, not even remotely.
Do a search on that shit, nugg...............

[Wind]

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrTbf_ws9Is

[Lord Sidious]

I was just listening to this one when I opened this thread, so you can have a listen too.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UkOnubOUgs

[Catsquotl]

So just out of curiosity.
If you like music, but somehow have a different opinion of the performers opinion should you suddenly not like their music?

I like loads of music, cnan't be bothered to check it all, but my guess is some of the performers are people I would loathe in real life..

[Aragorn]

So just out of curiosity.
If you like music, but somehow have a different opinion of the performers opinion should you suddenly not like their music?

I like loads of music, cnan't be bothered to check it all, but my guess is some of the performers are people I would loathe in real life..

I think that's a very personal and quite possibly subconscious consideration. For myself, there are indeed also bands/performers whom I personally don't like as people, but I look at each individual song, and if the song is good, then I will still like it. It also matters — still speaking for myself only — why I do not like the performer(s) as people. Is it because of something small, or is it something truly shocking?

I can even name a few examples.

[Emil El Zapato]

So just out of curiosity.
If you like music, but somehow have a different opinion of the performers opinion should you suddenly not like their music?

I like loads of music, cnan't be bothered to check it all, but my guess is some of the performers are people I would loathe in real life..

This might sound odd, but you know how I would make that decision. I trust El Cid's nature and so chose to go easy on the musical critique.

[Catsquotl]

This might sound odd, but you know how I would make that decision. I trust El Cid's nature and so chose to go easy on the musical critique.

Ah I see, that wouldn't work for me, because Jameson.
Love me some Lemmy though...

[Aragorn]

R.I.P. Gary Brooker...

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St6jyEFe5WM

[Dreamtimer]

I listened to rock and roll for years despite the very unpleasant lyrics as related to women. My husband stopped listening to Bill Cosby (not music, I know) after his predilections came out. He struggles with Eric Clapton too, he's really unhappy about the abuse of women and cannot enjoy the music like he used to.

I believe it would be a personal choice. I found I liked Mel Gibson's performances less after his rants. It colored the experience.

I imagine mileage varies for different people.

[Emil El Zapato]

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN4ZlST1tGc

[Wind]

I view art separately from the artist. Many artists have been rather "complicated" and troubled people.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpFo_E9Fq2k