Historical Investigation Thread - Chronology

[bsbray]

Here are a few more images of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge. The first one is color-coded so that we can compare its depth with the continental shelves off the coast of the Americas. The pink outline around the American coasts are still not under much water, relatively speaking, and are widely recognized as having been above water during the last ice age. As also noted in the table in the first post, the submarine Aluminaut even discovered roads on the continental shelf off of the east coast of America in the 1960's.



From the page above, the Mid-Atlantic Ridge is given as being 2 to 3 kilometers below water, which is associated with the subsided magma chambers under the ridge. It's still less than half as deep in much of the Atlantic Ocean, which is about 5 km deep.



The Azores Islands are still above water and have lots of interesting and unique fauna.

[lcam88]

Moving on the the moon: I noticed you placed a historic observation around 9k BC, "Moon is placed into orbit - Bashar" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW-OVLIAjTk)

Since I am rather keen of Bashar related statements in that I find them very curious to contemplate. I sought to elaborate the context this information was given. I cannot find a text version of the transcript.

But according to Bashar an answer to Sam Hunters proposed contemplation of off-worlders "helping" humans has been ongoing since way before the placement of the moon in orbit.

Here is the meat in the video:

"And it came to pass after many generations of humanity had existed upon the Earth, and they achieved expansion within their understanding and greatness of civilization, that there came into consciousness of the collective humanity discord and dissension and an amplification of polarization, and a splitting into that which is called the darkness and the light."

"As this experience of dichotomy expanded, thus then came into the center of the civilization upon the Earth at that time, great destruction."

"And this civilization in your old language as you have known it was Avalungi or in your modern tongue Atlantis."

"And it was seen by those who were involved in the initial conception of mankind, who go by the name in your language as "The Founders", that the dissension and discordance and destruction that had been created upon the Earth would last for a very long time."

"And it was seen by "The Founders" that this destruction could possibly never be recovered from. It was thus decided and it was thus understood that assistance was required."

"And it was decided and it was understood that the assistance must, in your language, come in the form of a vibration and energy to promote the concept of healing, rebalancing and ascension, because the destruction was great and the destruction was widespread."

"And thus it was seen that only something monumental could repair the rip, would rebalance the damage that had been done, would bring the polarity back into balance upon the Earth."

"And so a great plan was created, and it was understood in this plan that it must involve the entirety of the Earth."

"And it was understood in this plan that it must connect the karma incarnationally, not only of the lives on the Earth that had been lived, but also of the lives incarnationally of the past that had connected to other planets of the system."

"For it was known and it was understood what that which became ultimately the human community upon the Earth had also in ancient times incarnated upon the planet you know as Mars when it was inhabitable."

"And thus it was seen, and it was understood that the karmic cycles what where begun on Mars, and the karmic cycles that were continued upon Earth were continuations and must be taken into account and so it was decided that this would be so."

"And it was understood at that time in the creation of the darkness and the light that there was no light in darkness, and it was understood that light must come into the darkness in order for balance to be achieved."

"And it was seen that there was great light that created the day, that which you call the solar entity, the sun."

"And it was understood that there must be a counterpart to balance this energy out, so that the vibrations of intuition and the vibrations of insight and inspiration would be called forth, brought forth, amplified and so the great task begun."

"It was understood that the introduction of light into the night must be a counterpart to the Earth on all levels including physiologically, and thus such a counterpart was sought out."

"And a counterpart body was discovered and this body, this planetary body was devoid of life."

"And a long search was made to discover this body and it took a great amount of time."

"But once this body was discovered and it was deemed to be fitting to the task, it was then engineered to its purpose, and molded to its purpose, and changed to its purpose."

"And this body was brought from a great distance, and was fixed about the Earth, and this body you know as the Moon, for it did not originate in your neighborhood."

"And this body was introduced to the system after the natural body was engineered, after the natural body was altered, and was put into orbit about the Earth."

"And it was understood that the ratio and the perspective and the vibration and the relationship must be based on the engines of growth, and the engines of expansion, and the natural mathematics of the infinite."

"And thus it was understood that the body must be placed in direct proportion to the Earth that represents the ratio of growth, that which you in your modern times have come to know as the phi ratio of 1 to 1.618."

"That is the ratio of growth of all living things, of all nature upon the planet that you know as your home the Earth."

"And so it was fixed in it's orbit as such a distance to be representative of this ratio."

"And it was seen that it must also exemplify and reflect exactly the vibration of light, that which you call the solar entity of the sun."

"And so it was fixed in orbit to be the representative of exactly the same dimension visually as the sun, thus accounting for the exactness of the eclipse of your Moon over the sun in that it fits precisely and appears to be of the same size visually in your sky, and is thus when the sun of the night reflecting the solar light so that there is now a light in the darkness."

"And it was understood that according to these sacred geometries it represents itself within the structures that relates to the idea of the karma that is represented by the incarnation past of Mars upon which you[r] civilization also did experience itself in the past."

"So there is a mathematical relationship in the geometric form between your Earth and your Moon and your Mars."

"Being that also representative of Mars being one half the size of your Earth, being also representative of your Moon being one half the size of your Mars."

"Being also the relationship in phi ratio representation between Earth and Moon exactly represented by the shape on your planet you call the Great Pyramid of Giza."

"This then was created on the planet of the Earth, this then was created on the planet of Mars, this then was created on the Moon, each of these three bodies exhibit the structure you call pyramidal, and each do contain the ideas of sacred geometries and each do relate to each other vibrationally."

5:44 continues the text. I'll follow up in an edit of this posting later on. I then have some questions/comments.

[lcam88]

"And each is connected to the other vibrationally and synchronistically so that they will compound and amplify and accelerate each other, bring the karma into balance and allowing there to be the Moon as the engine of ascension for the purpose of regulating the cycles upon the planet of the Earth that was thrown into chaos by its polarity."

"And thus it was designed that the regularity of the Moon, and the cycles of the Moon be such as to connect the cycles of consciousness upon the Earth so that all would fall into love and so that all would be amplified cyclically, so that all would spiral upward according to plan, so all would come into synchronization and harmony along the golden proportions and the sacred geometries."

"So that is why you will find on the Full Moon the destabilization of consciousness that you refere to as lunacy, and in this way it will be the recalibration of your consciousness and the ability for the reconstruction of the personality component so as to allow the crossing of a new threshhold and allow the ascension and stemming up your vibration and the allowance of the reconstruction of the personality component so that you can become new people with each passing phase."

"And all of this was put into place and it was seen as good, and it was good, and it was understood that in time it would be reflective of the expansion of consciousness and the rebalancing of the consciousness, and the bringing into balance of the karmic idea of the collective consciousness of the people that now call themselves human upon the Earth, but in rememberance now that they are spirit forever have been and forever shall be experiencing themselves in the human modality."

"And it was seen that all was right, and it was seen that all would come to light as now that there is light in the darkness, and now that there is inspiration, and now that there is cyclical balancing, and now that there is intuition, and now that there is light in the darkness."

"And now is the time of culmination of all these cycles and this is the age of transformation on your planet that aligns and connects geometrically to the Moon, to your Martian past, and to your potential future."

"And this was done in your past approximately eleven thousand of your years ago, and before that time there was no moon."

"And before that time there are records of there being no light in darkness from the people that lived therein."

"And until that time there was then the group that led in the chaos, and from that time out of darkness and chaos comes light in the darkness that brings you back into reflection and and marriage of your male and female and all of your polarities within yourselves so that you can become once again the reflective light and not go into chaos this time around."

"And so it was, and that it was, and this is the story of the engine of ascension that you call the Moon."

"~~~~~~~~~~~~~"

"We thank you for allowing us to bring this story through this day of your time."

"It is timely that you understand these things for more and more and more data is now pouring in to what you would call your scientific circles, your astronomical circles and there is now heightened realization that there are certain artificialities about the Moon."

"Not that is in of itself the Moon an artificial body, but that it is a natural one converted artificially for certain purposes that are yet unknown to the majority of your planet."

"But many of your scientists are beginning to realize that it is not there by nature but by purpose, intending for the rebalancing of the cycles on your planet, though this is an understanding they have yet to know."

"But when the chambers shall be open in the pyramids and in the sphinx upon your planet in the years to come in the near future this will be understood."

"And as you also discover when you out into the planets in space, the same structures on your Moon, and the same structures on your Mars, you will understand your history and know your present and see your future."

"Again we thank you for the opportunity of sharing and the great gift you will give to our civilization in allowing us to communicate with you."

"In return for this gift at this time, I ask you, "In what way may I and my world be of service to you?" You may begin with sharing in any manner you so desire."

I'm stopping now at 9:04 There are question and answers that go into some aspects that may be considered interesting but are out of context to me.

Addendum:

The last thing I will want to share regarding Bashar for context about the transcripted material above in terms of what he means by "from darkness to light": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajQVF4b7wZQ (Bashar - Surely That's Impossible)

It is an interesting insight into why the decision was made to engineer an astronomical body and help humankind. It adds perspective in regards to what value the plunge into darkness actually has and why humans where not just permitted to self-destruct as may have happened without this "help".

For what it is worth: 2¢ perhaps.

[bsbray]

That bit about the Moon is one of the more "out there" (literally? ) areas which I've taken some notes on. Not just Bashar's channeling but also Velikovsky's historical researches and modern scientific observations have prodded into this and found some very interesting information. I'll provide the actual summary in my notes below.

One of the books on my "to read" list is called Russian History Viewed through Distorted Mirrors. This book essentially claims that Russian history as it is taught today is a farce, that it was written mostly by Germans who intentionally meant to degrade the Russians, that real Russian history is suppressed, and that it is linked to the Vedic traditions. Russian history as it is taught today started around the time of the Viking invasions around 800 AD or so, and during the time before this the Russians/Slavs are just considered as primitive people who basically live in "holes in the ground" (as the author puts it) to survive the cold. In reality of course the history of these areas goes back much farther than 800 AD. Ancient Vedic, Slavic, and maybe some other ancient Indo-European texts are consulted and they also mention that the Earth has not had this current moon in the past, and at some points in time has apparently even had two or more moons. It also speaks of off-planet wars in the ancient past that remind me a lot of the work of Semir Osmanagić regarding the Bosnian pyramids.

Anyway I have not gotten that far yet but this is what I have from the first volume of notes regarding the Moon:

Anomalies of the Moon

These are notes taken from various sources, and all indicating that there is more to the Moon than meets the eye. There are several different, unrelated angles that have been taken in regards to the Moon that demonstrate anomalies.

One set of facts often brought up to demonstrate the “uniqueness” of our Moon relate to its physical properties as well as its relative position and size between the Earth and the Sun. For example, the Moon happens to be about 400 times smaller than the Sun but also 400 times farther from the Earth than the Sun. This is why the Sun and Moon appear to be exactly the same size in the sky from Earth's perspective, making total solar eclipses possible when the Moon exactly and totally covers the Sun in the sky. Though we may take this for granted, this is not something that all moons are able to do, and at the time of writing it is considered a unique feature of the Earth's Moon to be able to exactly cover the Sun during such an eclipse, and no other moon of any other planet in the Solar System is known to be able to do this. The Moon also does not rotate relative to the Earth, so that one face is constantly locked toward the Earth, and never the “dark side.” This is also extremely unusual.

The Moon is often considered to have been formed from the same material that made the Earth, either at the same time or a later date after an impact event. However, the mineral make-up of the Moon is apparently not consistent with that of the Earth. For example, samples of Moon rocks contain ten times the amount of titanium as one would find on Earth. The Nobel Prize-winning chemist Dr. Harold Urey has remarked on this and said that he was “terribly puzzled by the rocks from the Moon and in particular their titanium content.” Brass and other non-natural materials have also apparently been found in lunar rock samples, including iron particles which are said not to rust.

Irwin Shapiro of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics is quoted as observing, “The Moon is bigger than it should be, apparently older than it should be and much lighter in mass than it should be. It occupies an unlikely orbit and is so extraordinary that all existing explanations for its presence are fraught with difficulties are none of them could be considered remotely watertight.”

In regards to its mass, NASA installed seismometers on the lunar surface, supposedly during the Apollo missions. NASA then sent an object of a known mass (one of the stages from Apollo 12, we are told) crashing into the Moon's surface in order to measure the seismic response and so estimate the Moon's density. To their astonishment, the Moon responded by ringing “like a bell” (NASA's own terminology, though in reality it rang longer than a bell) – for the better part of an hour. NASA also compared this ringing phenomenon to a “tuning fork.”[1] Dr. Maurine Ewing, a geophysicist and oceanographer, speaking of the seismograph results, is attributed as saying, “As for the meaning of it, I’d rather not make an interpretation right now, but it is as though someone had struck a bell, say, in the belfry of the a church a single blow and found that the reverberation from it continued for 30 minutes.” On Earth even the largest earthquakes are dampened in about 2 minutes.

Ken Johnson, who worked on the Apollo program in “data and photo control,” said “The Moon not only rang like a bell, but the whole Moon wobbled in such a precise way that it was almost as though it had gigantic hydraulic damper struts inside it.” Along these lines, it has been noted that the Moon has “mascons” inside of it, short for “mass concentrations,” which are simply mysterious concentrations of mass inside of the Moon.

Many have concluded based on the extremely pro-longed “ringing” response alone that the Moon is at least partially hollow at its center, if not simply an outer shell that is almost entirely hollow, much like the construction of a real bell. Dr. Sean C. Solomon of MIT has been quoted as stating, "The Lunar Orbiter experiments had vastly improved knowledge of the Moon’s gravitational field and indicated the frightening possibility that the Moon might be hollow," while Carl Sagan is known for stating that “A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object.”

Farouk El-Baz, an Egyptian American space scientist who worked with NASA remarked on the apparent emission of water vapor from the surface of the Moon, stating, “If water vapour is coming from the Moon’s interior is this serious. It means that there is a drastic distinction between the different phases of the lunar interior – that the interior is quite different from what we have seen on the surface.” According to Dr. Robin Brett of NASA, “It seems much easier to explain the nonexistence of the moon than its existence.”

There are also numerous photos, videos and written accounts of UFOs traveling near the Moon or even across its surface. One of the earliest written accounts of what might be called a UFO today was recorded by Dr. F.B. Harris on January 27, 1912, as found in the Reader's Digest book Mysteries of the Unexplained:

About 10:30 Eastern time I was surprised to see the left cusp showing the presence of an intensely black body about 250 miles long and fifty wide, allowing 2000 miles from tip of cusp to cusp. The appearance was fully as black comparatively as marks on this paper, and in shape like a crow poised.

Of course dark places are here and there on the lunar surface, but not like this. Not to be tedious I will say that every effort was made to eliminate any error of vision or other mistake. … The moon is very tricky and it is very unlikely that anything of this character will be seen in many years or hundreds of years even. I cannot but think that a very interesting and curious phenomenon happened.

Richard C. Hoagland, who was the science advisor to CBS News during the Apollo missions, now runs a website called “The Enterprise Mission,” where he provides many photographs of what appear to be artificial structures on both the Moon as well as Mars. The features Hoagland points out are also shown on the original NASA copies, though Hoagland states that he knows from personal experience working around NASA employees as a reporter that much of what is photo-graphed using high-resolution cameras is airbrushed and otherwise edited to remove the most blatant “artifacts” before the photos are released for public consumption.

One of these apparent structures on the Moon, which Hoagland calls “the Spire,” is visible near the edge of the Moon's horizon as seen from Earth, and protrudes out far enough to be seen against the backdrop of black space behind it in multiple photographs taken from space. This feature appears as a very thick, spiraling antenna-like structure that must be miles tall. Hoagland also points out various ways that one can show that these are not artifacts produced by the camera itself, including the fact that many of these features, including the “Spire,” appear in multiple photographs from multiple craft. This structure appears in images taken by at least two different craft: the Russian Zond 3 craft in 1964 and again by NASA's Lunar Orbiter 3 in 1967.

From its apparent hollowness, apart from equally anomalous internal “mass concentrations,” geological makeup consisting of unexplainably high levels of titanium (an important material for jet engines, submersibles and spacecraft, with the highest strength-to-density ratio of any metallic element), lack of rotation relative to the direction of the Earth, improbable size and positioning to be able to create total solar eclipses or even to occupy the orbit that it does, other general improbabilities of astrophysics, UFO sightings and the presence of anomalous features on the surface that are hard to explain via any sort of natural phenomenon, one might be led to begin to consider the possibility that the Moon is not an entirely natural feature of the Solar System.

When we get onto this line of thinking, it's natural to wonder the basic questions of who, what, where, when, why, how, etc. Who could and would be able to manipulate such massive objects in space? Why would they construct or so heavily modify such a structure? How, technologically, could they have achieved this? And when would this have been done?

There actually are some references we can make as to the “when” of the Moon's placement into Earth's orbit, as the ancient Greeks and others wrote of tribes more ancient than themselves who recalled a time when there was no moon. An article from the Velikovsky Archives website discusses these references[2]:

The Earth without the Moon

The period when the Earth was Moonless is probably the most remote recollection of mankind. Democritus and Anaxagoras taught that there was a time when the Earth was without the Moon.[3] Aristotle wrote that Arcadia in Greece, before being inhabited by the Hellenes, had a population of Pelasgians, and that these aborigines occupied the land already before there was a moon in the sky above the Earth; for this reason they were called Proselenes.[4]

Apollonius of Rhodes mentioned the time “when not all the orbs were yet in the heavens, before the Danai and Deukalion races came into existence, and only the Arcadians lived, of whom it is said that they dwelt on mountains and fed on acorns, before there was a moon.”[5]

Plutarch wrote in The Roman Questions: “There were Arcadians of Evander’s following, the so-called pre-Lunar people.”5 Similarly wrote Ovid: “The Arcadians are said to have possessed their land before the birth of Jove, and the folk is older than the Moon.”[7] Hippolytus refers to a legend that “Arcadia brought forth Pelasgus, of greater antiquity than the moon.”[8] Lucian in his Astrology says that “the Arcadians affirm in their folly that they are older than the moon.”[9]

Censorinus also alludes to the time in the past when there was no moon in the sky.[10]

Some allusions to the time before there was a Moon may be found also in the Scriptures. In Job 25:5 the grandeur of the Lord who “Makes peace in the heights” is praised and the time is mentioned “before [there was] a moon and it did not shine.” Also in Psalm 72:5 it is said: “Thou wast feared since [the time of] the sun and before [the time of] the moon, a generation of generations.” A “generation of generations” means a very long time. Of course, it is of no use to counter this psalm with the myth of the first chapter of Genesis, a tale brought down from exotic and later sources.

The memory of a world without a moon lives in oral tradition among the Indians. The Indians of the Bogota highlands in the eastern Cordilleras of Colombia relate some of their tribal reminiscences to the time before there was a moon. “In the earliest times, when the moon was not yet in the heavens,” say the tribesmen of Chibchas.[11]

There are currently three theories of the origin of the moon:

1) The Moon originated at the same time as the Earth, being formed substantially from the same material, aggregating and solidifying.
2) The Moon was formed not in the vicinity of the Earth, but in a different part of the solar system, and was later captured by the Earth.
3) The Moon was originally a portion of the terrestrial crust and was torn out, leaving behind the bed of the Pacific.

All three theories claim the presence of the Moon on an orbit around the Earth for billions of years. Mythology may supply each of these views with some support (Genesis I for the first view; the birth of Aphrodite from the sea for the third view; Aphrodite’s origin in the disruption of Uranus, and also the violence of Sin—the Babylonian Moon—seems to support the second view).

Since mankind on both sides of the Atlantic preserved the memory of a time when the Earth was without the Moon, the first hypothesis, namely, of the Moon originating simultaneously with the Earth and in its vicinity, is to be excluded, leaving the other two hypotheses to compete between themselves.

We have seen that the traditions of diverse peoples offer corroborative testimony to the effect that in a very early age, but still in the memory of mankind, no moon accompanied the Earth.[12] Since human beings already peopled the Earth, it is improbable that the Moon sprang from it: there must have existed a solid lithosphere, not a liquid earth. Thus while I do not claim to know the origin of the Moon, I find it more probable that the Moon was captured by the Earth. Such an event would have occurred as a catastrophe.[13] If the Moon’s formation took place away from the Earth,[14] its composition may be quite different.

There is no evidence to suggest whether the Moon was a planet, a satellite of another planet, or a comet at the time of its capture by the Earth. Whatever atmosphere it may have had[15] was pulled away by the Earth, by other contacting bodies, or dissipated in some other way.

Since the time the Moon began to accompany the Earth, it underwent the influence of contacts with comets and planets that passed near the Earth in subsequent ages. The mass of the Moon being less than that of the Earth, the Moon must have suffered greater disturbances in cosmic contacts. During these contacts the Moon was not carried away: this is due to the fact that no body more powerful than the Earth came sufficiently close to the Moon to take it away from the Earth for good; but in the contacts that took place the Moon was removed repeatedly from one orbit to another.

The variations in the position of the Moon can be read in the variations in the length of the month. The length of the month repeatedly changed in [subsequent] catastrophic events—and for this there exists a large amount of supporting evidence. In these later occurrences the Moon played a passive role, and Zeus in the Iliad advised it (Aphrodite) to stay out of the battle in which Athene and Ares (Venus and Mars) were the main contestants.

It will be recalled from the Bashar notes in the channeled notes section that Bashar was channeled as saying that the Moon was placed in the Earth's orbit about 11,000 years ago, or about 9,000 BC, which was about the end of the last ice age and almost exactly when Plato wrote that Atlantis was sunk into the ocean. Future volumes of these notes will include notes from the book Russian History through Distorted Mirrors, which cites ancient Indo-European texts stating that the Earth had three moons at one time in the past but that they were destroyed in warfare and resulted in cataclysmic impact events upon the Earth which resulted in the sinking of continents. Since there may have been multiple continental sinking events in the past, the time frame on this will require more analysis of the notes from that particular book.

Bashar also stated that before our current moon was in orbit, there was no light at night and this general period of time was filled with chaos. The Moon represented “light in the darkness” and also an “engine of ascension,” bringing a balance to the Sun in the sky which symbolized a balance between masculine and feminine energies. Bashar also stated that the Moon was originally a natural body but was “converted” to some degree of artificiality for unspecified purposes. Bashar suggested that humanity will learn more about this relationship to the Moon once certain chambers at the Sphinx and Pyramids at Giza are opened. Finally, he stated that the mascons within the Moon are artificial constructions which were used to place the Moon in its current orbit.

Earth is not the only planet suspected of having artificial moons. Russian astrophysicist Iosif Shklovsky (also known by his slightly anglicized name, Joseph Shklovskii) studied the two moons of Mars, Phobos and Deimos, and in 1959 hypothesized that they were both hollow and therefore artificial bodies. In 1988 the Soviet Union launched two spacecraft to observe Mars' moon Phobos. The first of these craft was lost en route, due to what Soviet officials called a radio command error. The second of these craft became infamous after it approached the moon, took photos which included a cigar-shaped shadow that suddenly appeared on the surface of Phobos, and then just as suddenly lost contact with Earth. The Soviets also stated to media that they had received photographs of the Martian surface from the craft which showed anomalous features that could not be explained by any known geological process. In the April 8th, 1989 issue of New Scientist, these features were described as “spindle-shaped” and “intriguing and puzzling.”

Footnotes:

[1] <http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/home/15mar_moonquakes_prt.htm>

[2] <http://www.varchive.org/itb/sansmoon.htm>

[3] Reference: Hippolytus, Refutatio Omnium Haeresium V. ii.

[4] Reference: Aristotle, fr. 591 (ed. V. Rose [Teubner:Tuebingen, 1886] ). Cf. Pauly’s Realencyclopaedie der classischen Altertumswissenschaft, article “Mond” ; H. Roscher, Lexicon d. griech. und roemisch. Mythologie, article “Proselenes.”

[5] Reference: Argonautica IV.264.

[6] Reference: Plutarch, Moralia, transl. by F. C. Babbit, sect. 76.

[7] Reference: Fasti, transl. by Sir J. Frazer, II. 290.

[8] Reference: Refutatio Omnium Haeresium V. ii.

[9] Reference: Lucian, Astrology, transl. by A. M. Harmon (1936), p. 367, par. 26.

[10] Reference: Liber de die natali 19; also scholium on Aristophanes’ Clouds, line 398.

[11] Reference: A. von Humboldt, Vues des Cordillères (1816), English transl.: Researches Concerning the Institutions and Monuments of the Ancient Inhabitants of America, (1814), vol. I, p. 87; cf. H. Fischer, In mondener Welt (1930), p. 145.

[12] Reference: [In addition to the sources cited above, cf. The Nihongi Chronicles of Japan (I.ii, in Transactions and Proceedings of the Japanese Society, vol. I [1896]) which recount how “Heaven and Earth . . . produced the Moon-god.” The Kalevala of the Finns recalls a time “when the Moon was placed in orbit.” (Rune III.35)]

[13] Reference: [Cf. the effects of such an event on the Earth’s rotation calculated by H. Gerstenkorn in Zeitschrift fuer Astrophysik, 36 (1955), p. 245; cf. idem, in Mantles of the Earth and the Terrestrial Planets, S. K. Runcorn ed., (New York, 1967); also idem in Icarus 9 (1968), p. 394.]

[14] Reference: [Cf. H. Alfven and G. Arrhenius, “Two Alternatives for the History of the Moon,” Science 165 (1969), 11ff.; S. F. Singer and L. W. Banderman, “Where was the Moon Formed?” Science 170 (1970), 438-439: “ . . . The moon was formed independently of the earth and later captured, presumably by a three-body interaction, and these events were followed by the dissipation of the excess energy through tidal friction in a close encounter.” More recently, a study of lunar paleotides has shown that “the Moon could not have been formed in orbit around the Earth” (A. J. Anderson, “Lunar Paleotides and the Origin of the Earth-Moon System,” The Moon and the Planets, 19 [1978], 409-417). Because of a certain degree of instability in the Sun-Earth-Moon system, “the planetary origin and capture of the Moon by the Earth becomes a strong dynamic possibility.” (V. Szebehely and R. McKenzie, “Stability of the Sun-Earth-Moon System,” The Astronomical Journal 82 (1977), 303ff.].

[15] Reference: [Cf. Yu. B. Chernyak, “On Recent Lunar Atmosphere,” Nature, 273 (15 June, 1978), pp. 497ff. The author found “strong theoretical evidence of a considerable atmosphere on the Moon during the greater part of its history.”]

[Herbert]

This chronology comes from Chris Thomas’ Reading of the Akashic Records.

The Akashic is sourced through the higher self with no outside intermediary or channelling involved.

The interesting thing about this chronology and the events included is that it gives an explanation for many anomalies that science has failed to answer. Of course it took 11 books, several essays and 10 interviews to explain the details.

It took 15 years to accomplish this monumental task since the information contained in the Akashic is enormous. He explains that it might take up to 30 questions from different angles to achieve one definitive answer.

Several of his discoveries have been later confirmed by science.



Page 229 (The Human Soul- Chris Thomas) CHRONOLOGICAL CHART OF THE UNIVERSE

14.4 Billion Years Ago Creation of the Universal envelope [made up of 13 souls as guardians and energy balancers]


100 Million Years Ago Creation of the 6 non-physical races [born on 6 different planets throughout the Universe (Angels)]


40 Million Years Ago Completion of our Solar System with early life beginning to form on most of the 13 planets, [each planet being an individual self-determining soul consciousness in contrast to the rest of the solar systems in this Universe]


30 Million Years Ago Creation of the 7 semi-physical races on 7 diverse planets [soul is attached to a lighter body than humans. They need to build organic space ships to travel from planet to planet. As they spread throughout the Galaxies, they change their racial name to the name of the new planet they inhabit which leads to a multitude of E.T. racial names]


25 Million Years Ago Earth began to explore the possibility offered by physical forms of life [more compressed than the 7 semi-physical races]


20 Million Years Ago Earth’s Creation of the Sidhe and the Faerie [group souls who look after and balance the plant life energies]


4.5 Million Years Ago Neanderthal Man developed by Earth from the early proto-humans. [In total there are 6 proto-humans, 5 of which show less evolutionary promise – Gigantopithicus, Pygmy, Homo-erectus and two, now extinct, aquatic species , and the 7th template brought from Mars, Cro’ Magnon, who evolved faster than Neanderthal. Later, 85,000 yrs. ago, DNA manipulation of
Cro Magnon on Atlantis birthed Wholly Human Individuals (formerly had been group soul supplied by Earth) capable of containing the whole soul within the physical body].


4 Million Years Ago The arrival of Merlin (Guardian and energetic balancer for the entire planet on Earth) and the other 12 planetary Guardians [All of the 13 planets supplied a portion of their soul consciousness to each of these planetary Guardians](see Planet Earth – The Universe’s Experiment) [Merlin is also known as Malkuth in certain teachings of the tree of life from the Kabala]
Also known as The Pool Vu, the South American traditional creationary stories, names ‘their’ Merlin as Zamna. [in North America as Wohanna Wish Hey, in Eastern lands as Enoch, in Greece as Mercury and in the west as Merlin. All the same person.

3.9 Million Years Ago 4 of the original 13 planets in our solar system decide to remove themselves from the ‘physical’ experiment.
The debris of two of these planets forming the asteroid belts, and part of the consciousness of one planet remains in what becomes Earth’s moon. The remains of the other two are just outside of the solar system giving rise to NASA’s detection of Planet X –the tenth planet or possibly now known as the gas giants Tyche and Sedna.


3.8 Million Years Ago The adoption by Earth, of the Cro Magnon template from Mars. Virtually all life was instantly destroyed on planets in the solar system except Earth and Ganymede by the destruction and removal of the 4 planets. Earth rocked on her equatorial axis developed a wobble. Earth adopted Cro Magnon as a possible additional development to her Neanderthal.


3.6 Million Years Ago The 14th Faction break into this Universe in search of raw resources resulting in the contamination of the energies of free choice. (See Planet Earth). 30,000 souls on their way to Earth are contaminated by this lizard energy. Before they are removed the 14th Faction succeed in leaving one third of our universe devoid of energy.


94-98,000 Years Ago Period when Lemuria was established on an ice island in the Southern Atlantic for DNA research to establish plant and animal life variety on Earth. Research was carried out by a semi-physical race known as NGC584 who come from a frozen planet. [Several people have assumed that Lemuria was a warm climate but the Akashic does not agree with this view. At this time in Earth history the South Pole ice sheet extended out to near the tip of South America ]


85,000 Years Ago Atlantis established – stretching as a continent from the coast of Ireland to the Caribbean Basin and Brazil. Included England, Ireland and the Azores.


65,000 Years Ago [Purposeful Sinking of Atlantis down to the core of Earth using a ring of volcanoes and forming the North Atlantic Ridge, the Great Rift in Africa and the flooding of the Mediterranean marsh land. The resulting disruption causes Earth to tilt on her equatorial axis from a vertical position, resulting in a freezing of the North Hemisphere Pole. All non-physical souls incarnate returned to source for 40,000 years.] Immediately prior to the sinking of Atlantis, construction of the Sphinx in Egypt as a marker for the entrance to the principle underground ‘shelter’ used by those who remained on Earth to undo the damage caused by the destruction of Atlantis. Other ‘shelters’ exist in South America, entrance near to Teotihuacan, and in Britain entrance under West Kennet Long Barrow.


28,000 Years Ago New energy matrix constructed around planet to support the shortly to arrive new human population. The energy matrix is more commonly called the ‘Ley Line Grid’


20,000 Years Ago 6 regions of the Earth (1.South America, 2.Mesopotamia the area around Sumeria, 3.Egypt, 4.Britain, Ireland
and Northern France, 5.Tibet, 6.Southern Greece (Volcanic activity destroyed most of this region leaving only scattered islands now). (see The Fool’s First Steps) These 6 regions were re-colonised by souls from each of the thirteen soul origins. Each colonised region began to explore our connections to the Earth. The full soul human template was adopted as the ‘standard model’ for the human body. The new humans arrived as an energy form which they slowly condensed, mainly by using materials [elements] from the planet itself, into a ‘physical’ body (the origin of the Adam and Eve story)


18,000 Years Ago Construction of the Great Pyramid – sometimes called Khufu or Cheops Pyramid. The original concept was that only this pyramid was required to fulfill its psychic reconstruction role for the physical body/whole soul link. As humans became more and more physical, the other pyramids were added, until about 15,000 years ago, all seven principle pyramids were complete. These 7 pyramids, the central 3 at Giza with the other 4 at locations matching the stars of the Orion Constellation, were designed to connect together into a massive energy collection and focusing structure. It was also at this time that Kobekli Tepe in Southern Turkey was constructed.


17,000 Years Ago Construction of pyramids at Teotihuacán and the other colonised sites including Tibet except for Celtic Britain, Ireland and Northern France to perform the same consciousness rebuilding function as the Great Pyramid at Giza.


16,000 Years Ago Adoption of sexual reproduction. Although the ‘normal’ conception and birth process had been experimented with, all new lives were brought about [as with most among the semi-physical races] by a process called ‘Adult Birth’ up until this time. Sexual reproduction was not fully adopted by humans until 7,000 years ago.


12,000 Years Ago First use of a written language based on the electrical impulses that run along the spine. This “binary” language became the root of all written languages.


10,000 Years Ago Construction of Silbury Hill, the Avebury stone circles and the first phase of the construction of Stonehenge. [The Celts were able to hold full consciousness much longer than the other 5 regions because Earth’s central energy centre is located in England, which is why they were later in building and also why they could use open structures instead of pyramids.]


8,000 Years Ago The majority of people leave the planet to merge with their higher self to discuss the way forward for human life on Earth. This “die off’ has prompted scientists to suggest a series of meteorites may have rained down on the planet at this time. The afore mentioned ‘discussion’ led to the formation of ‘The Human Plan’.


7,000 Years Ago The beginning of the Human Plan being put into action. The human template now becomes divided into two, the ‘physical self’[25% DNA] and the ‘higher self’ [75% DNA memory]. The Human Plan meant that every one designed a series of lifetimes in order to gain as much knowledge as possible of how to be human on Earth and to regain the original human template of the whole soul within the physical body. The knowledge gathering process has become known as ‘Karma’ [original meaning: Knowledge]. The Earth has considered people to be ‘sub-human’ ever since. In agreement with the Earth’s consciousness, we imposed a 7,000 year time limit which expires around the end of 2011. [It is not possible to know exactly when it expires because we don’t have exact numbers as to when it began. We could be out up to 50 years. The Akashic is not specific within 50 years as to exactly when the plan began. Also the Earth has the final say in how quickly this process takes place.


5820 Years Ago (3820 BC) The arrival of the Annunaki (Enki and Enlil) in Sumeria having travelled back in time from the present era. Enki begins to dictate the ‘Book of Enki’ to Sumerian scribes who take the story down onto clay tablets. Copies of these tablets travelled to Babylonia, the Hittites and eventually, the Himalayas and Egypt. According to Zachariah Sitchin, the story forms the basis of the Old Testament. [some may find this flow confusing related to time travel]


[1476 Years Ago] [In 538 AD forces led by King Arthur’s son Mordred met Arthur’s forces in battle at Calamus on the Scottish Borders; both were killed. The date and outcome of this battle had a major significance for Humanity. Lost here was a whole philosophy and way of life – the corruption of mankind. The Celtic ways of nature could not be sustained without Arthur’s battle prowess against the invading Anglo Saxon ‘Christian’ ways; likewise without Mordred because of his link with the Sidhe (faerie) and the ways of the land.] Merlin acted on his own (neither the Planet nor the Sidhe knew of his plans; both responded to what appeared to be an act of treachery) to place the Sidhe in ‘Avalon’ out of reach of humans and the harmful influence (exploitation of nature) they would have on the Faerie. They have remained in a place of safety until very recently as a small percentage of humans have completed Soul reintegration. [possibly this removal of faerie nurturing energies lends a very spiritual reality to the term ‘Dark Ages’.]


1,000 Years Ago The Velon race discovers the primary energy flow to our solar system. (see Project Human Extinction)


About 1776 The first of the Velon ships arrive at the Orion Gateway. The Industrial revolution marks a major change in life at this time and human relationship to the Earth. Burning of coal replaces other bio fuels, and so on. ..


August 14, 1996 17:30 BST The connection of the new [ley line] energy grid to North Devon. The new energy overlays and reconstructs the original matrix which was constructed 28,000 years ago . The new grid activated the 12 global primary energy points. Connecting the grid triggers the first census of human readiness for our [soul reintegration] completion process.


December 31, 1999 Start of the acceleration of the human energy structures allowing further free choice and actions. Those energies reached their peak at the end of May 2003. With this peak, the process of change became unstoppable and could not be reversed.


May 30, 2000 The Earth alters her base-note frequency from 7.56 Hz to 3500 cycles per second. It is not certain when the 7,000 yr. time limit began. It could be out 50 years. It is only the Earth and her connection to human consciousness which can now determine when full soul reintegration will happen. Earth is expanding and human consciousness must follow. Those not prepared may be cast off or allowed to live out their lifetimes. It is Earth’s decision and individual choice.


March, 2002 The 14th Faction lizard energy is removed from our Universe, stolen energy radiates back and the Black Holes are closed by Merlin and the Guardians. It is still unknown how they were able to drive out the 14th Faction. Recently [2013] physicist Stephen Hawking, who built his reputation on the study of Black Holes, came forward to say that Black Holes do NOT exist in our Universe. Therefore we have confirmation of the information provided from the akashic in 2002. The individuals in the Vatican and the Jesuits who used this energy to remove other’s free will have lost that power forever.


June 2, 2003 The first people to complete the whole soul reintegration process 25 in the USA (all but 1 taken by the military for experimentation resulting in 2 deaths so far) and 43 in Europe. Several million have completed soul integration since and live in isolated areas for obvious reasons.


August 1, 2004 The Earth confirms that the original Atlantian Human template is the only acceptable Human form to be considered Wholly Human.


August 2, 2004 The Earth charges up all global crystal deposits that remain in the ground.


February, 2005 As energies settled and reinforced, a second census was taken of human readiness to complete their part of The Human Plan. These new energies brought about a further increase in the death rate and slowing of the birth rate.


2009 The Velon living on Earth within the illuminati are the victims of a coup by one of their own group, destroying their safe-house in Virginia U.S.A. which exposes the Akashic information they have been hiding through use of an energy wall. The result is that the Guardians of Earth are able to remove all but one of the members of the illuminati (the one who at the time performed the coup but who was not known about), along with the original human members including George Washington who had been kept alive through Velon technology [the computer Me, pronounced My]. The politicians and corporate leaders and military of the human population have filled in the gap but do not realize they are still under mind control by the Velon remaining – the 6th emissary. A new safe-house is built in Peru by the Velon.


[Late 2013] [With the 6th sun energies a state of constant flux begins with intermittent, meaningful changes taking place throughout the solar system but most especially noticeable on Earth.]

[lcam88]

As I dwell on these ideas:

It's interesting though, that in the second vid I share in post #19, it's made out like humanity alone is responsible for its feat, whereas in the Moon Ascension vid, humans seem like they couldn't make it by themselves. Troubled, I sought answers and found a thread with some other views. And this message caught my attention: http://jandeane81.com/threads/2811-I...ll=1#post24409

And I am especially intrigued by the idea that Mars was also being subject to a "hollow moon" annexation. It would seem that that part of the plan was met with resistance and possibly the plan was foiled in a way where the body to be annexed was destroyed.

Certainly whoever destroyed it knew what was to come and that failure was inevitable, Mars could be destroyed by a more direct application of force, but that to permit the moon would be an equivalent defeat. A choice was made, that to go out in flame was better than the moon alternative.

I can't help but to feel that this "fix" was imposed, that the moon may actually be related to a hostil and repressive strategy of some sort. That the phi ratio was part of the engineering design not specifically to cause "spiritual growth" (another offensive and demeaning term), but to function more like as a candle might function with moths.

At the energetic level how confusing would a moon with so many sun like aspects be to a recently released energetic being that might seek to return to "source" via the sun (source of all life on earth)? And if its attention is caught by the the moon in such close proximity, would it be a confusing experience that such a being can recover from? And especially considering proximity, how can the moon not "cloud out" the sun as a fashion of eternal eclipse?

I am indifferent to ET beings, I don't know enough about Anunnaki or any other race of ET beings to suppose that I should like or dislike them. However, the idea that human would self-destruct, as realistic as the idea may seem to anyone who contemplates aspects of mutually assured destruction, is ultimately disempowering. I would resent any notion that we have been imprisoned in some way as a "karmic growth in love" type lesson. I do not even believe in karma, to be forced into a karmic lesson is like bible study to me.

This is not the first time I've asked myself: When I look up into the clear night sky and see the moon, is it something that is actually out of place and something that should be removed?

EDIT:

As a test to verify some aspect of this rational, it would be interesting to know 1)if the Earth moon was setup first, and 2) if Mars and Earth where in approximate alignment with the sun when the Mars moon was "aimed", subsequently destroyed and retaliatory type action (wiping out humanoid life on Mars) taken.

These coincidences, considering the "moth-to-a-flame" analogy, involving energetic being recently released from their bodies during that destructive event, trying to return to the sun, might also indicate a good possibility of those beings having been caught by the recently installed Earth-moon "flame" for processing here.

Is there a Akashic record entry that might shed light on that?

EDIT 2:

The term "a generation of generations" from bsbray's prior post takes on a new meaning suddenly.

[bsbray]

I'm trying to figure out what you mean by a moon of Mars being "aimed," lcam. I'm assuming that you're thinking that the destruction of Mars' atmosphere had something to do with its two moons, which I guess is as plausible as any other theory. Shklovsky was already suggesting in 1959 that both Phobos and Deimos were hollow, I'm guessing based on their sizes and orbits, which imply something about their mass (ie there not being enough of it for their size, thus suggesting they are hollow and artificial). The Phobos II spacecraft that the Russians sent to investigate only made things that much more interesting. So regardless of whether there is a direct link between these moons and the destruction of Mars' atmosphere in the ancient past, there is still something odd going on there. John Lear has said some pretty dark things about our moon as well but I'm not quite prepared to accept a lot of these kinds of ideas, though I don't doubt that the Moon has been used for various purposes and agendas, probably both by humans and non-humans, for a long time.

I was doing some searches earlier today at the mention of the "Founders" in the video you referenced above and found this summary of some of Bashar's messages regarding various species, which you might find interesting, here: http://alienabductions.tribe.net/thr...b-4feee96602b4

[lcam88]

Aimed - I mean placed in orbit around mars and aligned with sacred geometries so as to function in the way Earth moon does (whatever the actual function happens to be). I presume the Earth moon project was been executed on Mars as well. The apparent proportions of the sun being observed for that planet etc etc.

The test I propose, is to suggest an additional detail that would likely be necessarily observed in the sinister and dark elaborations of mine. The suggestion of a detail that would be part of the battle strategy. If there was no actual alignment, which is much more probably in randomness, then we can understand the absence of such a battle strategy.

However, if there was indeed an alignment where the earth was positioned between the sun and mars, a very small possibility considering random planetary orbital coincidences, it is highly more likely that the alignment was intentional, and indeed the notion that a plan did incorporate the alignment needs to be considered more seriously. I am venturing that such a coincidence is something important to know in the historic context.

I don't know how such information can be calculated and suppose the Akashic records might be a good place to begin. Perhaps probing for a more precise date, or even star alignment information with enough precision where a date can be calculated. And/Or even just a direct probe of the planetary position during the event where Mars was hit directly.

[bsbray]

It seems to me that the Earth and Mars would be aligned with the Sun every time Mars and Earth pass each other in their orbits, since both already revolve around the Sun.

Randy Kramer said that the Pleiadians were responsible for what happened on Mars by driving a massive bomb into it as a suicide mission, but I still don't know what to make of what that guy said.

[lcam88]

Yes, which would happen once every Earth year + (Martian year - Earth year). I'd say a 3 day window is reasonable on each occasion, but If I where the general, I'd be much more precise given the amount of effort all of this engineering takes, I would be less incline to settle for partial success.

It seems to me that the Earth and Mars would be aligned with the Sun every time Mars and Earth pass each other in their orbits, since both already revolve around the Sun.

Randy Kramer said that the Pleiadians were responsible for what happened on Mars by driving a massive bomb into it as a suicide mission, but I still don't know what to make of what that guy said.

I don't like random or emotional based explanations. I'm not familiar with Kramer to suggest he is not offering something rational, but let's put it this way.

If you are good enough to engineer a cure to "self-destruction and polarity" on an energetic planetary scale, or a prison on that scale, and you are able to move a planetary or lunar body into orbit from a some distant location, you probably do not need a "bomb" to wipe out all life on a planet. I imagine you could use an asteroid or two to perform a more surgical "operation" and cut out a part of civilization, but it wouldn't be your only method. I can't see why shifting tectonic plates would be out of reach, or manipulation of ocean and atmosphere either.

Chemical or nuclear bombs just seem crud crude to me.

PS Thanks for the link. I liked what Bashar had to say about the Founders... And all of a sudden especially curious about the unwillingness to talk about the Nordics...

[Dumpster Diver]

Yeah, topological maps give in the class room setting depict a rather even depth across the atlantic. They toss in the idea of a tectonic type ridge-line at the ocean floor to support that scientific line of inquiry. Let it be said, even while it is perfectly obvious, that sometimes scientific theories are created and left unchallenged so that they can be shared. The theory of evolution and its presumption of "random" dna mutations is one. Nobody bothered to see just how random these mutations are, so that part of it flies. I bet nobody is willing to fund a study that would examine randomness either.

I know there are extensive and accurate maps in existence, sonar mapping to keep submarines from running into things when they dead-head in their stealth mode require it. That information is secret I bet.

Even the Navy does not have that accurate underwater maps. A few years ago, a sub hit a seamount in the Pacific that was not where it was supposed to be. The sub survived but the Captain didn't (fired, not tossed overboard).

[Dumpster Diver]

Wow, a great thread. Thanks to the OP for starting this and all who contributed. It will take a while to read all this and understand it.

BTW, any interest in integrating Corey Goode's "Ancient builder Race" history that he is relating now on Gaia (Formerly Gaiam TV)?

And how about the possible Saturn-centered system in the Saturn Death Cult books? It's at least partially based on the Velikovsky's "Worlds in Collision" proposal.

[bsbray]

I'm not much of a fan of Corey Goode but I'm very interested in Velikovsky's work, which has ultimately led me to the New Chronology. I'm beginning to believe that it will be in this direction that our chronology will have to be adjusted. This thread features videos from a woman building upon work by people such as Fomenko: http://jandeane81.com/threads/7442-W...vivors-wake-up

We actually interviewed her and the interview will be up soon, I'm trying to get it edited into video form at the moment.

[Dreamtimer]

lcam88, I followed your link and read the post regarding channeling. I liked turiya's term, Ascended Liar-archy.

I'm personally disturbed by the idea of removing the moon. It's affect on the tides is crucial to many life cycles.

If we removed the moon how would that affect the weather?

Moonrise and moonlight are lovely things to behold, and good to hunt by.

How do you think the earth would be changed if there was no moon?

[OneOfLaw]

Nothing would happen, the moon is an artificial construct located INSIDE the earth sphere, around 3000 miles + above your head.