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    Moderator edit: This thread is a split-off from Happy 4th July Everybody! Watch out for North Carolina: Sharks!




    Sorry to rain on the parade. The 4th of July is the celebration of being a slave. It hasn't anything to do with being free or independent of anyone. If you believe the USA became free of England, look up the Virginia Corporation.
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    Quote Originally posted by Hugh Mann View Post
    Sorry to rain on the parade. The 4th of July is the celebration of being a slave. It hasn't anything to do with being free or independent of anyone. If you believe the USA became free of England, look up the Virginia Corporation.
    USA is free!

    We have the 2nd Amendment. It's driving Dianne Feinstein absolutely CRAZY !!! LOL

    Ted Cruz ****ed in Dianne Feinsteins Cheerios on the 2nd Amendent attack. Doom off!

    The USA also has Freedom of the Press. Fox News gives Obama a headache......and he complains about it!

    USA is Bottom Up : From the People through elections.

    UK is Top Down : All hail the King / Queen.

    People came to the USA to : Flee Tyranny !

    Seek the Truth

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    Um , is this called showing one's true colours lol.

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    Don't worry, Aianawa. We aren't all like that.


    The press might be free here as far as anyone who wants to start their own newspaper or whatever, but all MSM companies are, for a lack of a better word, Satanic. You could also use the word Nazi or your personal preference, but all MSM here makes it living off of lies and distraction. Big lies, little lies, and lots of stuff that does not matter at all. Not just in the US but in most western countries as far as I can see. If Obama gets a headache it's because he's losing faith in his puppetmasters. It blows my mind that anyone even takes companies like Fox seriously.

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    Yes laughable if only, it was an American that first enabled me to read the news truthfulllly as such and the prep work put into it by tptW, and also direct me to alternative news and potentials, so I know there is some and growing with awareness within USA etc.

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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    Don't worry, Aianawa. We aren't all like that.


    The press might be free here as far as anyone who wants to start their own newspaper or whatever, but all MSM companies are, for a lack of a better word, Satanic. You could also use the word Nazi or your personal preference, but all MSM here makes it living off of lies and distraction. Big lies, little lies, and lots of stuff that does not matter at all. Not just in the US but in most western countries as far as I can see. If Obama gets a headache it's because he's losing faith in his puppetmasters. It blows my mind that anyone even takes companies like Fox seriously.
    Fox News #1 in the ratings. It's not even close.

    Bill O'Reilly = 3 Million Viewers at 8PM

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    Here's a documentary about how controlled Fox News is. "Pundits" can't even state their own opinion. They get memos from corporate headquarters telling them what to talk about and what opinion to take on it. That among lots of other ways of misleading and lying to the public.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P74oHhU5MDk



    Not too long ago someone put out a 56-page ebook documenting a bunch of Bill O'Reilly's lies. Here's a few of them:

    O'Reilly claimed he reported from a war zone in the Falklands; the closest he got to that conflict was Buenos Aires, the Argentine capital, a thousand miles away.
    O'Reilly claimed he witnessed civilians get killed during a protest in Buenos Aires; other reporters and a historian say no such deaths occurred.
    O'Reilly claimed he was on the doorstep of a figure connected to President Kennedy's assassination when that man committed suicide; this is debunked by significant evidence, including O'Reilly's own taped statement from the time.
    O'Reilly claimed he saw nuns get shot in the head in El Salvador; he later acknowledged he had only seen photos of the deceased.
    O'Reilly has told two different stories about his El Salvador reporting trip; in one he says he witnessed a firefight, but in the other he makes no mention of the dramatic events.
    O'Reilly claimed to have seen terror attacks in Northern Ireland; he later admitted he had only seen photos of those events.
    O'Reilly claimed to have been attacked by protestors while reporting for Inside Edition during the 1992 Los Angeles riots; this was subsequently disputed by six of his former colleagues.
    http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Truth-.../dp/B00VSMA4HS





    Not only did he lie about being in the Falklands Islands war zone, when someone else pointed it out, he lied again and called them a liar.




    Here's a handful of his statements on Politifact too: http://www.politifact.com/personalit...ly/statements/


    Bill O'Reilly is also the proud father of a meme thanks to his own stupidity:

    On the January 4th, 2011[8] episode of The O’Reilly Factor, Bill O’Reilly[10] interviewed American Atheists[7] president Dave Silverman about a billboard[9] the company had put up arguing that religion was a scam. When Silverman asked for proof of a god’s existence, O’Reilly argued that he knew because the tide comes in and out regularly without fail, and it could not be explained without divine intervention. Silverman’s facial expression after this statement was the inspiration for the Are You Serious? rage face.
    http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bill-o...t-explain-that




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    Quote Originally posted by AscensionQuest View Post
    USA is free!
    Really? Well, I suppose that you've never heard of the Patriot Act, then?

    Here's a couple of hints for you...

    • They do not need a written warrant for your arrest. It suffices that someone verbally suggests that you would be involved with terrorists or terrorist activity.

    • They can lift you out of your bed in the middle of the night -- thereby using any and all violence they deem necessary -- and take you to an undisclosed facility without letting anyone know that they did so. That includes the local police chief of the town or city where you live.

    • They can detain you at this facility indefinitely, without letting you contact an attorney, without a fair trial, and without even allowing access to you by the International Red Cross.

    Just how free are you, exactly?

    Quote Originally posted by AscensionQuest View Post
    We have the 2nd Amendment. It's driving Dianne Feinstein absolutely CRAZY !!! LOL
    None of those amendments matter, because the President has the power of executive to overrule the US Constitution and instate a nation-wide martial law.

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    The USA also has Freedom of the Press.
    The US American press is entirely controlled by the same corporations as which control the entire US government.

    Quote Originally posted by AscensionQuest View Post
    Fox News gives Obama a headache......and he complains about it!
    Fox News only criticizes Obama because Obama happens to be a Democrat. They wouldn't be criticizing him so much if he had been a Republican -- in that case, it would have been NBC who'd be criticizing him. And even then still, it is all nothing but a "dog & pony" show, intended to keep you busy thinking about the phony "Democrats vs. Republicans" dichotomy and keep you from thinking about anything else. In other words, it's a PsyOp.

    (It isn't all that much better over here in Europe, for that matter.)

    Quote Originally posted by AscensionQuest View Post
    USA is Bottom Up : From the People through elections.

    UK is Top Down : All hail the King / Queen.
    I'm sure you would like to believe that. Please read this post here so as to get a better grip on the kind of nation you live in.

    Quote Originally posted by AscensionQuest View Post
    People came to the USA to : Flee Tyranny !

    Seek the Truth
    Yes, that's what your history books say, but unfortunately the truth is something quite different. The Europeans who sailed to the Americas did not do so in order to escape tyranny. They were mainly adventurers, industrialists, criminals and other troublemakers, who were tempted by the thought of exploring and exploiting "the other continent", and upon arriving there, they found that this "unexplored land" was actually inhabited by indigenous people who lived in perfect harmony with nature.

    This didn't jive very well with the industrialist culture of those Europeans, so the Europeans drove back the natives into reservations and stole the land they called their home out from underneath them. The Europeans then abducted Africans from their homes and families and used them as slaves on the cotton plantations. Furthermore, they then also lured Asians over -- kidnapping them, as they had done with the Africans, wouldn't have gone down so easily, so they tricked them with false promises -- in order to have them work on the railroads, but those Asian people were not treated all that much better than the African slaves.

    Eventually, the immigrants decided to declare their independence from the British Empire, which didn't exactly go down so easily because the British Empire, being an empire, wasn't willing to give up on "the new colony" and all of its resources.

    The Declaration of Independence was signed long before slavery was abolished, and this slavery -- or rather more precisely, the impact of slavery on politics and on the economy -- was one of the main reasons as to why a civil war broke out, given that the North had abolished slavery while the South wanted to preserve it.

    What is true is that many Europeans -- mainly of Jewish ethnicity -- were fleeing Europe for the USA when Adolf Hitler rose to power in Germany, which makes it highly ironic that Hitler was actually being sponsored by US American bankers, such as e.g. Prescott Bush, the father of George H. Bush and grandfather of George W. Bush.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    You forgot the part where they took/stole the land from the people living here in the first place.


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    Quote Originally posted by Shadowself View Post
    You forgot the part where they took/stole the land from the people living here in the first place.
    No, I didn't. See the colored lines here-below...

    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    The Europeans who sailed to the Americas did not do so in order to escape tyranny. They were mainly adventurers, industrialists, criminals and other troublemakers, who were tempted by the thought of exploring and exploiting "the other continent", and upon arriving there, they found that this "unexplored land" was actually inhabited by indigenous people who lived in perfect harmony with nature.

    This didn't jive very well with the industrialist culture of those Europeans, so the Europeans drove back the natives into reservations and stole the land they called their home out from underneath them.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    No, I didn't. See the colored lines here-below...
    Oh...you're right...I missed it....doh! (my skim reading doesn't always work) lol

    Adding; this to me at least was the development of a nation that perpetuated slavery to gain this so called thing called freedom? Right oh!
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Really? Well, I suppose that you've never heard of the Patriot Act, then?

    Here's a couple of hints for you...

    • They do not need a written warrant for your arrest. It suffices that someone verbally suggests that you would be involved with terrorists or terrorist activity.

    • They can lift you out of your bed in the middle of the night -- thereby using any and all violence they deem necessary -- and take you to an undisclosed facility without letting anyone know that they did so. That includes the local police chief of the town or city where you live.

    • They can detain you at this facility indefinitely, without letting you contact an attorney, without a fair trial, and without even allowing access to you by the International Red Cross.

    Just how free are you, exactly?



    None of those amendments matter, because the President has the power of executive to overrule the US Constitution and instate a nation-wide martial law.



    The US American press is entirely controlled by the same corporations as which control the entire US government.



    Fox News only criticizes Obama because Obama happens to be a Democrat. They wouldn't be criticizing him so much if he had been a Republican -- in that case, it would have been NBC who'd be criticizing him. And even then still, it is all nothing but a "dog & pony" show, intended to keep you busy thinking about the phony "Democrats vs. Republicans" dichotomy and keep you from thinking about anything else. In other words, it's a PsyOp.

    (It isn't all that much better over here in Europe, for that matter.)



    I'm sure you would like to believe that. Please read this post here so as to get a better grip on the kind of nation you live in.



    Yes, that's what your history books say, but unfortunately the truth is something quite different. The Europeans who sailed to the Americas did not do so in order to escape tyranny. They were mainly adventurers, industrialists, criminals and other troublemakers, who were tempted by the thought of exploring and exploiting "the other continent", and upon arriving there, they found that this "unexplored land" was actually inhabited by indigenous people who lived in perfect harmony with nature.

    This didn't jive very well with the industrialist culture of those Europeans, so the Europeans drove back the natives into reservations and stole the land they called their home out from underneath them. The Europeans then abducted Africans from their homes and families and used them as slaves on the cotton plantations. Furthermore, they then also lured Asians over -- kidnapping them, as they had done with the Africans, wouldn't have gone down so easily, so they tricked them with false promises -- in order to have them work on the railroads, but those Asian people were not treated all that much better than the African slaves.

    Eventually, the immigrants decided to declare their independence from the British Empire, which didn't exactly go down so easily because the British Empire, being an empire, wasn't willing to give up on "the new colony" and all of its resources.

    The Declaration of Independence was signed long before slavery was abolished, and this slavery -- or rather more precisely, the impact of slavery on politics and on the economy -- was one of the main reasons as to why a civil war broke out, given that the North had abolished slavery while the South wanted to preserve it.

    What is true is that many Europeans -- mainly of Jewish ethnicity -- were fleeing Europe for the USA when Adolf Hitler rose to power in Germany, which makes it highly ironic that Hitler was actually being sponsored by US American bankers, such as e.g. Prescott Bush, the father of George H. Bush and grandfather of George W. Bush.
    A truth that may interest you. Fox News has an employee named Andrea Tantaros. She is Greek.

    Her family owns and operates a family restaurant in Pennsylvania.

    Truth: Her father fled Greece because he said : " They punish success in Greece. In America success is rewarded. "

    Think about that for 15 seconds.

    Another Truth: In Greece there are posters on the wall that say: " Resist Capitalism 100%"

    I guess the USA isn't so bad after all.

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    I feel like we have entered the Twilight Zone here. Either that or being spammed by an "interested party". Ascensionquest? A brand name to misdirect, IMO.
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