Reading between the lines, it looks like someone joined the forum to insert themselves into the conversation.Originally posted by ntr
Reading between the lines, it looks like someone joined the forum to insert themselves into the conversation.
"To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" -- Voltaire
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."-- Eleanor Roosevelt
"Misery loves company. Wisdom has to look for it." -- Anonymous
Aragorn (8th July 2015), Cearna (8th July 2015), Chester (8th July 2015), Dreamtimer (8th July 2015), grannyfranny (8th July 2015), Lord Sidious (8th July 2015), Phoenix (8th July 2015)
No one wants freedoms taken away, but I wonder what all you are lumping in under the banner of "freedom." The freedom of being gouged at the gas pump by the oil cartels? If another American expresses views you don't agree with, that doesn't make them anti-American, it makes them equally American as you.
Aragorn (8th July 2015), Cearna (8th July 2015), Dreamtimer (8th July 2015), grannyfranny (8th July 2015), modwiz (8th July 2015), Phoenix (8th July 2015)
In te early days of corporations they had to reapply every year to prove their value to society. Of course that could have been corrupted, too. This year 2nd quarter earning for Wal-Mart are down $66 Billion. We have the power to do this by not buying from corporations that have immoral values.
For some reason, we refuse to believe that we have the power to transform corporations. I remember in the 1970s I was visiting a friend in Palm Springs, walked into a high end fashion retailer, immediately got a credit card and strolled the aisles with some of the Hollywood stars (much shorter than I expected).
When I got home, I received a letter that turned me down for a Sears Credit card. I swore I would never buy anything in Sears. As if they would care. Well they do now, as people have less and less discretionary income. Plus people are discovering reasons to avoid certain retailers.
It isn't hard to find lists with reasons why i.e. companies owned by Koch Brothers. Do you really care what brand of toilet paper you buy or are they buying your loyalty once because of a discount coupon? Voting with dollars is more powerful than political election votes.
Good grief!
It's comments like this that make me feel like there's very little hope left for humanity.
The level of ignorance that exists amongst the general population never ceases to amaze me.
Very disheartening.
Aragorn (8th July 2015), blufire (8th July 2015), Cearna (8th July 2015), Lord Sidious (8th July 2015), modwiz (8th July 2015)
Codes, statutes, acts are not laws. The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be in agreement. It is impossible for a law which violates the Constitution to be valid. This is succinctly stated as follows:Really? Well, I suppose that you've never heard of the Patriot Act, then?
"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." ---Marbury vs. Madison, 5 US (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 176, (1803)
Aragorn (8th July 2015), Lord Sidious (8th July 2015), Phoenix (8th July 2015)
Excellent!
Package it up, send it over and I will take the bits I like and send the crappy bits back.
Ok?
In all seriousness, if you think the united snakes is free, you don't know what freedom is..................
America will be, and soon, consumed by it's own greed.Truth: Her father fled Greece because he said : " They punish success in Greece. In America success is rewarded. "
Think about that for 15 seconds.
Another Truth: In Greece there are posters on the wall that say: " Resist Capitalism 100%"
I guess the USA isn't so bad after all.
That is the other wing of the same bird as your united snakes.................
Ní siocháin go saoirse
Anti Americanism?
I suspect anyone that ISN'T anti American.
Or anti British or any of the other dirtbag empire builders.
You know why?
Empires are built on the suffering of others.
So yes, I am indeed what you say and yes, I do want people to suffer, so they learn.
They won't farking learn any other way.................
Ní siocháin go saoirse
Lord Sidious, united snakes...hadn't heard that one. It's a good one. Sadly.
ntr, please don't insult people by reading between the lines and coming to inappropriate conclusions. As bsbray said, if someone disagrees with you that makes them equally American. I'm embarrassed every time one of my fellow Americans responds to criticism of America that way.
Bush's phrase, "You're either with us or you're against us" sure as hell didn't make us any stronger. It led to people like Bachman and Palin calling for McCarthy-like investigations of Congress to see who's a "real American".
God help us all if it's people like that making the determination.
(Sam, I'm not looking for a savior. It's an expression).
Last edited by Dreamtimer, 8th July 2015 at 13:15.
Aragorn (8th July 2015), Lord Sidious (8th July 2015)
LOLMark Zuckerberg is David Rockefeller's grandson. You know, the banker grandson of the oil tycoon who has so much money that he hides it in "charities" so you'll never see his face in Forbes. Watch anyone else get a $500,000 loan to get an internet business rolling.
Tell me more about how hard the grandson of a Rockefeller works to make a massive data-collecting business mined by the intelligence agencies.
Watch the movie: Social Network
Mark got the $500,000 from a Venture Capitalist named Peter Thiel.
Seek the Truth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel
Mark created something out of nothing. He was rewarded for his hard work. Now he is a $$$ Billionaire.
American Exceptionalism !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism
What part is wrong in my statement?
LOL
This just sad. It REALLY is.
"gouged at the gas pump" ?
Go buy a gallon / liter of gas in Great Britain or France.
The price of gas is very reasonable in the USA.
It's like you're living on another planet.
Hey, you brought up a good issue!Lord Sidious, united snakes...hadn't heard that one. It's a good one. Sadly.
ntr, please don't insult people by reading between the lines and coming to inappropriate conclusions. As bsbray said, if someone disagrees with you that makes them equally American. I'm embarrassed every time one of my fellow Americans responds to criticism of America that way.
Bush's phrase, "You're either with us or you're against us" sure as hell didn't make us any stronger. It led to people like Bachman and Palin calling for McCarthy-like investigations of Congress to see who's a "real American".
God help us all if it's people like that making the determination.
(Sam, I'm not looking for a savior. It's an expression
"didn't make us any stronger"
A majority of politicians in Washington D.C. speak the truth when they say: " The Obama Administration is a failure. Proof is obvious: Our
enemies no longer fear us and our allies do not trust us."
Just ask Israel !
AscensionQuest, I'm sorry to say, that already happened before the first decade of this century was over. The foundation was laid. The efforts were spearheaded. The directions were taken. And the law of unintended consequences was well activated.
You can pretend that it's all on the new captain's head and the other side of the coin doesn't have responsibility anymore.
I don't play pretend.
Aragorn (8th July 2015), Lord Sidious (8th July 2015), Phoenix (8th July 2015)
When President George W. Bush was in office 2000 - 2008 Our enemies feared us and our allies trusted us.
As of today the USA Foreign Policy is a Train Wreck.
Obama is on his hands and knees begging for a deal with Iran.
Putin thinks Obama is a joke. Remember the famous Hillary Russians " Reset Button " ?
Appeasement failed. I don't "play pretend" either.
We went from having the world's sympathy to having it's contempt in only a handful of years. The economy was already driven off the cliff before Bush's time ended. What really amazes me is how Clinton gave financial markets the 'wet dream' of deregulation with the undoing of Glass-Steagal.
What did they do with it? Make the secure unsecure, jeapordize hard working Americans' mortgages, ruin AAA ratings...
Just 'cause you passed the baton doesn't mean you weren't in the race.
Remember when Romney said, "Just foreclose on them all and let them rent."? Now there's a man who can relate to the people.....
Aragorn (8th July 2015), Lord Sidious (8th July 2015), modwiz (8th July 2015), Phoenix (8th July 2015)
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