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    My Reply To Greenbarry:

    Because humanity has been living in their heads rather than their hearts. Because individuals, most especially in the western world, have identified their personalities, their individuality, their Egos with their mind-centred intellect rather than their heart-centred feelings, they have lost the ability to process emotions.

    When you move to your heart center, and admit you have feelings, and allow those feelings to flow in their natural abundance, your world opens up to the multi-dimensional , fluid, elastic, unbounded soul.

    The matrix is a fiction that each one of us created in our minds, and as long as we live in our brains, where resides fear , worry and the need for control, we will continue to feed the Velon (Matrix). Why ? Because when you can't process your emotions, when you are in denial of feelings, when you don't even have the capacity to identify what it is you are feeling, the result is excess DRAMA.

    The Velon feed on excess human emotions and they are rising off the planet in abundance, because we don't know what to do with them. They impede our natural energetic flow.

    So the Giveaway is one means of expressing those emotions that have been damaging our cells, causing disease, and taking away our freedom. They are holding us bound to the past. Each time we deny, or fail to express what we are feeling in the moment, we form a link to the past which puts a Control System into place over our freedom.

    You may ask who is controlling humanity? Well from a mind perspective it is the Velon, through the illuminati, who vampirize our energetic emotions. BUT as Harald Kautz has indicated, when we become heart-centred, they lose their power over us.

    So who in reality were the controllers? To use an old expression: "We have seen the enemy and it is us."

    When we use the Giveaway those old stuck emotions are cleansed through fire. They cease to exist. And once you have successfully used the Giveaway over several months, you will find you need to speak your truth in every moment. If you do not you will feel the block as pain in one of the appropriate organs of your physical body.

    So in summary, the real matrix is one's own mind which always seeks control.

    Freedom lies within the heart mind which seeks flexibility, boundless energy, and takes us even beyond the multidimensional universe, burgeoning forth to infinity. I would say that when you live through your heart all things meet in you. I would not say you are the universe because that is too limiting, too restricting. This is a future lesson in store for us all even after full soul integration.

    Remember change (Divine Masculine) and experience (Divine Feminine) go hand in hand.

    Chris Thomas has explained that we are in the process of returning our physical template to the template created on Atlantis which can contain the whole soul energy. BUT our experience since Atlantis over the last 7,000 years of gathering wisdom, has greatly added to our energy and it may be there is more to this new template than we could have imagined on Atlantis.

    You are source.

    If you are wondering how I arrived at this conclusion, well I listened to a rare interview last night with Patrick McGoohan. He wrote a 17 episode British tv series called The Prisoner back in 1967. The interview was done in Canada in 1977.

    In it he explains how he came to write The Prisoner and how his final episode resulted in his having to move into the mountains literally to avoid lynching by his viewers. That is how in denial humanity had become even then. To explain this, you must listen to the interview. The final episode reveals who created “the village” in which he is one of the many prisoners. As a prisoner he becomes nothing more than a number. Number 6. The question becomes: who is number 1, the creator and enforcer behind the scenes who runs the village? All orders and controls come down from number 1. The final episode reveals who number 1 really is.

    Obviously he was a man ahead of his time even though he admitted that "the prisoner" whom he directed, produced wrote and starred in was still trapped even after he escaped the village. The village being a metaphor for the matrix prison we all create in our mind.

    The Interview 1977 done in Canada

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiIUnCMpGbM



    The Series from 1967 http://watch-series-tv.to/serie/the_prisoner_%28uk%29


    Reply To Your Specific Questions


    is it [the Giveaway] not also feeding the Velon by doing it?


    No. On the contrary. The fire is important because it is cleansing. It dissolves the energy block for the mind to witness before its very eyes. The subconscious mind is incredibly sensitive to witnessing events. It's like a child, holding on to lasting impressions. Most of our trauma comes from childhood without us even being aware of it happening.

    We have been reinforcing this trauma throughout adulthood by not exercising free will. Voting in elections is an example of giving your power away.

    The Velon welcome human energy blocks because it makes us easier to control. Society has conditioned us to think it wrong to express our feelings. So we hold them in and remove our own freedom. That is called self-censorship.

    Hence all the fear porn, confusion, false flag "disasters which never happened" distractions, movies which threaten disaster. As is evidenced in Anastasia's post, they don't even have to release or complete the movie, they just leak parts of it onto the internet with a voice over pointing out the threat.

    Look at how many people are now worrying about September. That is a distraction plain and simple to keep us from focusing inwardly toward integration work.

    The "Matrix" exists only in your mind. You created it by allowing technology to override your own DNA. Herald Kautz explains the science behind this. The media, news, movies, computer chips, cell phones microwaves designed to brainwash your mind. Move your focus to the heart. There is a war for our minds but the war ends when you move your ego to the heart.

    why is it called the giveaway?

    Because so long as you hold onto that stuck energy it imprisons you to the past at the subconscious level. You are physically in a prison of the mind. You have a choice in a universe of free will to give away the pain from past trauma. You will be surprised what you have forgotten you've been holding on to. You will also be surprised how much lighter you feel, how much easier it is to take a deep breath and what a burden it has been when you lift it off your shoulders.

    A close parallel is all those physical possessions you have been hanging on to in the attic. They are just rubbish taking up space, as are belief systems, symbolism like numbers and sacred geometry and superstitions. The societal ingrained fear of the number 13 for example.


    who am i giving this too? is it mine for balance? is it what makes me who i am? both the negative and the positive = balance?

    Oh yes it's yours until you realize it has been yours by choice. It's been your excuse for not finding freedom. It’s your fear of your own power. Power is only feared when you are out of balance. Opening the heart yields balance and with balance comes benevolence. With balance comes compassion, empathy and flexibility. Limitless energy.

    You aren't giving it to anyone. You are dissolving it by fire. You are banishing it from your subconscious mind. You are turning it to ashes and dust. It no longer exists.

    [COLOR="#0000FF"]i know GK has been compromised and i seen that long
    before the dec 12 stuff.. picked up on it a few times but
    never said anything[COLOR]

    George has a mixture of truths and confusion. Listening to him sharpens your discernment skills. You will feel truth through your body because it enhances the energetic connection to your higher self. With that connection comes greater sensitivity to lies. They become painful so that you can no longer listen to people like Simon Parkes.

    . is it possible that CT might have
    also been tricked to teach this giveaway?
    i mean no disrespect to anyone.[/

    When you feel the results of the Giveaway, you won't have to ask that question. I have a friend who has been abducted since she was a toddler. She is highly psychic. Her fear and worry was that they can abduct her at any time without her being aware until after the fact. They do it through a link to the subconscious mind, interdimensionally using Alien technology.

    So she started doing the Giveaway. She gives away her hate arising from her childhood memories, her fear and worry, her soul contracts that she fears might exist, and so on. From the very beginning of the Giveaway she has felt her power returning, she has been able to multiply her DNA strands to 4. She feels the energy of her chakras from her higher self being activated through her body. Not all of us will experience so profound a beginning but it serves to demonstrate the value of the Giveaway.

    She has not been abducted since she began the Giveaway. And her wiped memories are slowly returning.
    Learning our TRUE HISTORY is therapy for the human race.

    It is each person's responsibility to clear their body of emotional blocks (using the Giveaway, etc.) so that the process of higher self integration into your physical body can begin. Beliefs are fleeting during this period of change. It is wise to hold them lightly. Mind, Body and Spirit are becoming ONE

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    I both threw away and burnt the paper. It made no difference to me.

    Greenbarry, the Velon do not feed of negative emotions. They cleverly invent and make conflicts that produce negativity in us and between us. When the two parties argue the third one uses that conflict to profit. So, they don't feed OF our negative emotions, they rather use negative emotions that are stuck in us to control us through them. By doing the giveaway, you release and get rid of that negative energy/vibration from your system. You free yourself and raise your vibration. All is energy!

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    Excellent questions Greenbarry, they yielded great answers!

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    Sandra said it the way I would have.

    Greenbarry this newcage concept that we feed them is in my opinion mind crap. If anything, we are the ones being fed all kinds of low frequency energies which create negative thought forms and dis-ease in mind and body. The Giveaway is not the only method of getting them out. EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) is another one of many. From my innerstanding if the technique does not work you have not yet reached the core issue and it is usually a fear.

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    i do the giveaway all throughout the day & night..
    cant see worth a shit so reading it back isn't a problem.
    writing everything that comes to mind.
    not sure if anything i write is helping me clear baggage.
    but if it pops up it comes out!
    which i tell people that when i spit..
    the EFT thing i checked into that as well.
    i like the guy who teaches it but not sure if it is for me.
    although, i may try it again.
    seems to me writing is something more solid and releasing.
    but thank you Anastasia.
    anyhow, i do talk to folks about the giveaway and what to do.
    seems i would get better results by Doing it with them.
    then i can support and all that what not crapolio.
    thanks again guys and gals!

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    Quote Originally posted by Greenbarry View Post
    i do the giveaway all throughout the day & night..
    cant see worth a shit so reading it back isn't a problem.
    writing everything that comes to mind.
    not sure if anything i write is helping me clear baggage.
    but if it pops up it comes out!
    which i tell people that when i spit..
    the EFT thing i checked into that as well.
    i like the guy who teaches it but not sure if it is for me.
    although, i may try it again.
    seems to me writing is something more solid and releasing.
    but thank you Anastasia.
    anyhow, i do talk to folks about the giveaway and what to do.
    seems i would get better results by Doing it with them.
    then i can support and all that what not crapolio.
    thanks again guys and gals!
    Finding a core issue can be really difficult and may take a professional to help you, especially if it is something you cannot remember. I watched lots of Dvd footage of EFT founder Gary Craig heal people and he had that gift but many times it took hours and a few sessions. The Giveaway and EFT are only tools. Teal Swan has some great "shadow work" videos that help people find core issues. Then you can apply the tools and clear the negative energy.

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    The giveaway, my experience with full soul integration, maintaining good health, need for protein

    The Human Soul by Chris Thomas

    Page 214 Signs of Clearing: The more of the past emotions you clear and the more of the higher self you take in, the quicker you feel emotions in the body’s organs. The reason for this is that as you clear things out, the energies of the higher self begin to make the internal organs less dense and so you have less of a buffer between you and the emotional world. On the positive side, however, when you get to this stage of emotional clearance, you might feel emotions more quickly, but you can also clear them more quickly.

    As you take in more and more of your higher self, the less the giveaway works. The reason for this is that your higher self wants you to be as honest in your dealings with people as possible. The more down the route of clearance and change you go, the more honest you will need to become. This is another reason for having to leave behind those who have tried to hold you back.



    Source The 6th sun a survival guide 2013 by Chris Thomas http://www.unicusmagazine.com/PDF/6th%20Sun.pdf


    The Giveaway, about the author, maintaining good health.

    If there is someone in your life who you have avoided clearing the air with, you must now do so. If that person is dead, use the• giveaway. Use the giveaway to clear all of the• accumulated emotional debris you have acquired during your life. This is extremely important as all of the space taken up by these unwanted emotions takes up space that should be occupied by your higher self.

    Learn to make greater contact with• your higher self – listen to your intuition and your body; this is your higher self communicating with you. There also meditations to help in the book Synthesis.

    Make sure you have a proper diet.• Ensure that you eat some meat and saturated fats and avoid anything containing chemicals, trans-fats, or is genetically modified. Make sure that your cholesterol levels• are as close to natural as possible.

    This is particularly important if you live and work in areas that are saturated with Wi-Fi frequencies – Wi-Fi slowly destroys the body‟s cells and so you need cholesterol to protect you from and undo the damage.

    Avoid news papers and TV news as• much as possible. The reports they carry are designed to create fear and disinformation.

    Avoid channelled messages. These are• deliberately designed to mislead you and prevent you from re-integrating.

    Avoid taking to the streets to protest.• All this kind of protest will get you is arrested and jailed without charge or shot.


    A Note by Chris Thomas about himself: My waking up to the fact that I had some kind of psychic capabilities began when I was aged 7. I didn’t know at the time what these abilities were nor was there anyone I could ask and, like so many children who exhibit psychic potential, I was “actively discouraged” by my parents. In the following years, I worked as an architect but began to investigate the psychic potential in my early twenties after I had left home.

    What I found was that I was somehow “hardwired” into the Akashic (see footnote 2) – the record keeping aspect of the Universe. At the same time, I also began to develop as a healer and later a psychic surgeon. For the last 35 years, I have been actively working with the Akashic and as a healer. All of the information in my 11 books has come from the Akashic and from my experiences as a healer.

    Following a determined effort by the Velon to kill me, and a continuing series of psychic attacks by both the Velon and the NSA, I have had to give up seeing and healing clients as well as stop travelling to give talks and workshops.

    I live in Wales with my beloved wife Di. As a Further Note This is reproduced from a previous essay but it seemed appropriate to repeat it here. I can hear many of you starting to say something along the lines of: “So where does he get off criticising me? If he is so wonderful, why hasn’t he undergone soul re-integration?” The answer to that is: I did undergo full soul re-integration 10 years ago but it was requested that I return.

    Since the age of 7, I knew that I could access a source of information that others could not – this is the Akashic. Also, for the past 35 years I have been working as a healer and, in recent years, as a psychic surgeon.

    10 years ago, I underwent the process of change, of soul re-integration. It was wonderful, beyond anything that I had imagined. Every sense becomes heightened to a level where every single colour becomes a rainbow of colours that do not exist in the physical world. Every smell is expressed in colours and impressions of what originated it (although you can switch off to the more unsavoury ones). Touching something is like reading its history and, if it is living, its sense of being. All of the senses become so enlarged that we do not have the vocabulary to express the sensations in words. Every thought takes on a reality, every sensation becomes a part of you and every living thing shares its reality with you.

    It is a world beyond human imaginings, beyond human experience and beyond description.

    However, given my ability to read the Akashic and to heal people, I was asked if I would reverse the process and return to the world of the human and continue to write about human history and human potential. How could I refuse Mother Earth? So, 10 years ago, I returned and continued to write my 11 books, to give talks and to push my potential as a healer as far as I could.

    My healing work developed in ways which allowed me to remove implants from people‟s bodies, particularly Velon implants. This work I did for many years and frequently came under attack by the Velon. Unfortunately, the Velon found a way through my defences – long story – and ended up causing me considerable physical damage. This damage meant that I had to give up seeing people for healing and stop giving talks. Instead, I have written more books and more articles and essays to try to encourage people to understand that we are a part of Mother Earth, we have a potential and that potential can only be fulfilled by undergoing soul re-integration.

    My experience of soul re-integration is an extremely happy one. The transition was unbelievably simple and straight forwards – I experienced no difficulties or problems of any kind. One minute I was my normal self; the next my “super self”.

    The only problems I experienced was with returning to my previous state – that process took several days of recovery. I am just me – nothing beyond the ordinary, nothing beyond anyone else but if I can undergo soul re-integration in such a calm and peaceful way, I cannot understand why anyone is reluctant to fulfil their potential and to honour the promise they made to Mother Earth at the start of The Human Plan 7,000 years ago.



    3. The Giveaway: Throughout our lives we find ourselves in situations where we feel we are unable to express ourselves as fully as we would like. This can be with members of the family, with friends or colleagues or with our employer. The problem is that all of the unexpressed emotions of these kinds of situations become lodged in our internal organs. If the emotional debris becomes too great, it can cause the organ to break down and generate symptoms of illness.

    This has been bad enough in the past but, as we undergo our process of change, the storage of old emotions will actually hold us back if not actively prevent us from moving forwards. Obviously, these stored emotions need to be removed from our bodies. The best way of clearing these emotions is to confront the person who brought about the emotions in the first place and express to them how you really feel.

    If you are unable, for whatever reason, to do that, the next best way of clearing these stored emotions is with a process called “The Giveaway”. The giveaway is a process of writing down all of the emotions that you have stored away. This sounds as though it cannot work – until you try it. What you will find is that once you start, all sorts of emotions and situations that you thought you had dealt with will come to the surface and you will realise that you are carrying a huge amount of emotion from your past.

    For this exercise, you will need: One old newspaper Several pencils One glass of organic red wine (optional) One candle (optional)

    The most important thing to remember about this exercise is that: YOU DO NOT READ IT BACK. The reason for this is that if you read back what you have written, you will take all of the emotions back in and have to start again. This is the reason for the newspaper and the pencil; it is virtually impossible to read pencil on newsprint. It is also the reason for the candle; if you use this exercise in the evening with only candle-light, it makes it even more difficult to read. The optional glass of organic red wine is included as it helps you to relax and allow your expression of held emotions to flow more freely.


    So, find a quiet time in your day where you will not be disturbed. Collect your newspaper and pencils and sit down somewhere comfortable. Think about something that has happened recently which made you upset but you could not express yourself fully. Using a pencil on the newspaper, start to write to the person who brought about the emotions. Write in whatever language you like – the stronger the language the better. As you write, you will find that other emotions connected with other events come to the surface. That is fine, you can add those to what you are writing – just keep on going.

    Once you have finished a session of writing, rip up the sheet of newspaper you have been writing on and dispose of it – burning it is best if you can.

    You will need to do this exercise many, many times.

    This is not just a one-off exercise. You will know when you have written enough about a particular situation when you are able to think back on the events and not feel any emotion at all. If you think back and still feel emotions rising up, you need to do another giveaway.

    This exercise sounds far too simple to do you any good. Try it and you will find that a huge weight feels as though it is being lifted from you. You can also write to inanimate objects that have caused you stress – such as broken pipes, a leaking fridge, traffic jambs, queues in the supermarket, etc. etc. It makes no difference what the situation is, write a letter to it and it will clear out the emotions. It can also be on any type of paper not only newspaper.

    Just remember DO NOT READ IT BACK or you will undo all of the work you have done in writing by taking all of the emotions back into the body. This exercise works and works extremely well and will actively help you through your transition.

    Please Note: this exercise has to be written by hand – it cannot be done on a computer. If you try to use a computer, you will inevitably read it back.
    Learning our TRUE HISTORY is therapy for the human race.

    It is each person's responsibility to clear their body of emotional blocks (using the Giveaway, etc.) so that the process of higher self integration into your physical body can begin. Beliefs are fleeting during this period of change. It is wise to hold them lightly. Mind, Body and Spirit are becoming ONE

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    THE JOURNEY HOME BY CHRIS THOMAS 1996

    CONTENTS

    Introduction

    Chapter 1 The Recent Past, The Heart Chakra, Avalon, The Karmic Process, The New Consciousness

    Chapter 2 The Story Behind the Headlines

    Chapter 3 Pre-Birth and After Death

    Chapter 4 Sexuality

    Chapter 5 Channelling, Clairvoyance, Spiritual Healers

    Chapter 6 Multidimensionality

    Chapter 7 The Origin of the Soul

    Chapter 8 The Present

    Chapter 9 Current and Future Possibilities


    Chapter 1


    page 28
    We are currently living our last incarnations that are ruled by the karmic cycle of an eye for an eye. There has been a rush to complete these cycles before the cycle changes to one of completion and renewal. The current global situation would appear to be one of chaos, but it is really only the affects of people clearing out the residue of their life plans. [this clearing also happens at the level of countries]

    The “Human Plan” is completing and as much individual experience as possible needs to be cleared before any leap of consciousness is attempted. Put into this context, current human affairs are actually following a logical route to completion and it is not the anarchy that it might appear on the surface, to be.

    After Death
    Once an individual’s life plan has run its course and all of the chosen areas of exploration have been completed, the physical aspect of the soul returns to its ‘higher’ aspect. The life that has been lived has usually been one where most of the chosen experiences have been undergone and the body’s energy reserves begin to be depleted, allowing the soul to release itself from its physical clothes.

    The journey to reunify the soul’s aspects is made in several stages.

    The first feeling is usually one of relief at the release of physical constraints.

    The second is re-uniting with the loved ones who have passed out of the physical during the individual’s life time.

    Over recent years, there have been a number of reports of near death experiences (NDEs) where an individual has undergone the first stages of the return journey. Very often the reports of the NDE has included the arrival of an individual who has taken charge of the person undergoing the NDE, and explained various aspects of what it is the person is experiencing. Identification of this individual is usually coloured by the NDE person’s religious beliefs and aspirations. Whatever identity is placed on this individual, the NDE person usually describes them as being unknown but somehow familiar. The new individual is, in fact, the ‘higher’ aspect of the NDE person’s soul and usually appears in its “normal” form, that is human in shape, but glowing with an almost blinding white light.

    The two aspects of the soul remain totally separate, that is, unmerged. The decision as to whether the two aspects merge is dependent on the physical aspect’s choice of whether further physical experience is required. This decision is made by the physical aspect reviewing its recently completed life and assessing whether it completed its chosen tasks to a satisfactory degree. This life review is carried out by both aspects of the individual’s soul, no other parties are involved. Nobody sits in judgement or makes any kind of assessment. Only the individual can judge themselves and choose their next move.

    The importance of this reality cannot be stressed too strongly. It is the individual, and only the individual, who can judge their life and the success or failures made. We have been led to believe that the Creator sits in judgement of an individual’s actions, but this is not what actually occurs. No one, not event he Creator, is in a position to judge another, it is only the individual that has that right. Once the soul’s review has been completed, further choices are made as to whether the individual remains in “spirit”, reincarnates or merges the two aspects of the soul. The decision is made totally by the individual and is determined on the basis of total experiences gained and the most appropriate course to be taken to either put the accumulated experience to work or to gain further understanding by one, or more, physical incarnations. As with all aspects of life, throughout this universe, the next situation is one of totally free choice.






    THE FOOLS FIRST STEPS – The true nature of reality 1999
    BY CHRIS THOMAS



    CONTENTS

    Introduction

    Chapter 1 The Beginning

    Chapter 2 The Dawning of Man

    Chapter 3 New Beginnings

    Chapter 4 The Karmic Cycle

    Chapter 5 The Higher Self

    Chapter 6 Other Forms of Universal Life

    Chapter 7 The Earth’s Mysteries – Part One

    Chapter 8 The Earth’s Mysteries – Part Two

    Chapter 9 The Process of Change
    Irritable Bowel Syndrome
    Breast Cancer
    The Second Chakra
    Persistent Coughs

    Chapter 10 The Symptoms of Change

    Chapter 11 The Fool’s First Steps

    Author’s Note


    Notes as transcripts.

    The Akashic Records is a source of information that is the human higher self, or more accurately the collective mass consciousness. Access to this source is not denied to anyone, all that is required is the desire to question. Within this book there is a closer look at those with whom we share this universe of ours and their role in shaping human history. As old memories that have lain dormant and unused for centuries open up , we will discover that we are everything we have ever dared to dream and considerably more.

    We are not a body that has a soul but a soul, an immense eternal consciousness, that has built for itself a body. Our origins take us back to the formation of the universe itself and perhaps beyond even that. We have placed ourselves within our confinement in order to further available experience and to re-define the limits to life.

    The creator could be described as a limitless energy source which incorporates the consciousness, and the will, to investigate every possibility that could exist. Life begins with a curiosity for the possible. Our universe contains all the energy that is required for life and all the possibilities that life is able to incorporate and investigate. This is our purpose, to freely choose to experiment with possibility.

    Our Universe was created for this reason.

    Page 9


    Chapter 3 page 38 New Beginnings


    Atlantis was lost. [the legend of Sodom and Gomorrah was born]

    The affects on those who lived on the island were devastating. Almost all of the inhabitants had been killed. Those who were of the other civilizations had been able to cast off their physical bodies, so at least their soul consciousnesses were intact, those who had been party to the most bizarre modifications were so tortured by their ordeals that they could not face any kind of continuation and had perished, including their souls, with the continent. This was also something new, no souls had ever been destroyed before.

    The loss was total and the shock waves rocked the whole of creation. All including the Earth consciousness were a part of the decision to destroy the island, and they worked together to open up a crack in the planet’s crust.
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    Learning our TRUE HISTORY is therapy for the human race.

    It is each person's responsibility to clear their body of emotional blocks (using the Giveaway, etc.) so that the process of higher self integration into your physical body can begin. Beliefs are fleeting during this period of change. It is wise to hold them lightly. Mind, Body and Spirit are becoming ONE

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    PLANET EARTH THE UNIVERSE’S EXPERIMENT
    BY CHRIS THOMAS 2003



    CONTENTS

    Chapter 1 Before Time
    Universal Consciousness. Other forms of Universal life. The 13 Civilizations. NGC 584. Pleiadeans. Sirians. Greys. Blues. Unnamed Civilizations. Other Life Forms. The birth of humanity. The Creation of Merlin. The history of the Earth. The Beginnings of Life. The Arrival of the Planetary Guardians.

    Chapter 2 Before Atlantis
    The Faerie. Human Development. Lemuria.

    Chapter 3 Atlantis
    Human Mass Consciousness. Paradise. Genetic Manipulation. The Destruction of Atlantis.

    Chapter 4 After Atlantis
    Adult Birth.

    Chapter 5 Human Development
    Beginning Again. A Fresh Start. Sidhe Development. Human Completion.

    Chapter 6 The Removal of the Faerie

    Chapter 7 Merlin, The Celts and Arthur
    Celtic Society. Other ‘Celtic’ Cultures. Roman and Celtic Christianity. Angles. Saxons and Jutes. The Death of Arthur. The Removal of the Sidhe.

    Chapter 8 Attempts At Understanding
    The Hunt for Answers. The Greek Empire. Human Lives, Human Choices. Author’s Note.

    Chapter 9 Merlin and the Knights Templar
    The Brotherhood of Sion. The Birth of Jesus The Christ. A Route to Change? The Templar Energy Grid. Disinformation and Persecution. The Ark of the Covenant. The End of the Templars. Author’s Note.

    Chapter 10 Completions
    Seeds of Completion. Seeds of Destruction. Final Choices. New Energies. The Final Answer. Other Problems. The Legacy of Atlantis. Biotechnology.

    Chapter 11 Future Roles
    Merlin’s Future. The Future Present.

    Appendix One The Symptoms of Change
    DNA and Multidimensionality. The Thirteen Chakras of the Soul. Phases of Change. Earth Changes. Physical and Emotional Symptoms. Knowing the Truth. Ancient Energies and Ancient Promises. Links. Chips. Sirian Chips. The Legacy of the Fourteenth Faction. Future Solutions.

    Appendix Two Earth Chronology




    PLANET EARTH
    THE UNIVERSE’S EXPERIMENT
    2003

    CHAPTER 1 BEFORE TIME


    Other Life Forms

    Page 24
    Jupiter is a planet that was dramatically affected by the self destruction of the two planets that exploded within our solar system (see The Beginning of Life later in this chapter). It went from a world of life to a gas giant which is potentially turning into a second sun. Of its thirteen moons, one harbours fully conscious life. This is Ganymede.

    Ganymede is a little smaller than Earth and is covered in a two mile thickness of ice. Under the ice, there is a great deal of volcanic activity and like the black smokers in Earth’s deep oceans, there are sufficient nutrients to support life.

    These beings are a development of the life which originally inhabited Venus, that is, a little like a dolphin in form but with enlarged front limbs and their skin is like a snake’s skin. On Venus they were truly amphibian and lived in both the vast seas and forest covered lands.

    On Ganymede, they have adapted to life under water and live on the smaller life that is nourished by nutrients supplied by deep volcanic vents.

    They too are waiting for us to reach their level of understanding and will not show themselves until humanity does so.


    Page 34-37 . . . 4 Million years ago Merlin first came to Earth.

    THE ARRIVAL OF THE PLANETARY GUARDIANS

    All 13 of the planets in our solar system were given a guardian by the universal consciousness and each of the 13 guardians arrived at different times to suit the stage of development appropriate to each planet. Each planet developing at its own pace and in its own way. As the emergence of a life form capable of developing into a conscious being occurred, the guardian was despatched to their appropriate planet. In this process Merlin was the last to arrive as Earth was the last planet to develop.

    Merlin’s first task was to work with the Sidhe and the planet to rebuild. A great deal had been lost [when 2 planets decided to leave resulting in their physical form exploding and the death of all life on the surfaces of every planet except Earth] and much was needed to be done. His second task was to introduce life forms from some of the worlds who no longer sustained life. The primary task was to bring in the humanoid form that had been developing on Mars. We know these new arrivals as Cro Magnon Man.

    With the beginnings of the work with the two potential human groups, Neanderthal and Cro Magnon Man, the Earth began a new period of expansion and its diameter slowly enlarged. By the time Atlantis was established, 85,000 years ago, the planet’s diameter was 10% larger than it is now. As Atlantis developed (see chapter 2), the planet continued to grow and by 75,000 years ago it was about 30% larger than it currently is. This meant that sea level was about 200 feet lower than present.

    With the destruction of Atlantis, the planet underwent a rapid shrinkage to about 90% of its present size. The rapid shrinkage brought about the surface changes that were experienced at the time. The rising of the Alps, the formation of the Himalayas etc. were all brought about by the shrinking. The sea level rose by about 300 feet and many lands were flooded.

    The whole topography of the planet changed. As the planet underwent its axis shift, the polar ice caps formed reducing the new sea level down to present levels.

    The planet has remained fairly stable since then with only the occasional earthquake shaking its surface. As humanity underwent its knowledge gathering processes, our interaction with the earth had diminished and the planetary consciousness has rarely stirred. With the coming of the 20th century and as humanity began to rise to the completion of the Karmic process, the planetary consciousness has begun to move with us. The more that we change, the more the planet begins to expand. This is where most of the glacier and ice cap melt water has been accommodated, the planet is once again expanding.

    It is very sad that several groups are working globally to halt earthquakes occurring. What is not realized is that earthquakes are occurring as a result of the Earth’s expansion [and humanity’s expanding conscious awareness]. Working to prevent these growing pains is having two effects. The first is it is slowing down the planet’s ability to move and work with us [to expand our awareness and consciousness]. The second is that where earthquakes occur they are more severe and damaging than if the Earth was allowed to move in its own way.

    As humanity undergoes its final clearance and soul integration, the planet will continue to expand and change the atmosphere to what they were at the middle of the Atlantis period. This time, hopefully, mankind will be able to maintain its level of consciousness and the earth will once again be working with us to maintain the physical paradise the Earth truly is.


    Availability of this book:

    Chris Thomas' books have been banned by Amazon in the U.S.. the one company there who offered to sell his books had their accounts frozen by the NSA. Since then Amazon in Canada and the U.K. have been carrying only some of his books. I have been told that his books are still available in the U.K. but they are banned from shipping to California. The following site carries his books but some are out of stock.

    http://www.cygnus-books.co.uk/planet-earth-the-universes-experiment-chris-thomas.html


    8 pounds

    Planet Earth and its human population are undergoing changes associated with developing a higher level of vibration. As a psychic surgeon, Chris Thomas works on a daily basis with the physical and emotional consequences of these changes. He has written this book to enlighten us as to how the Earth and the human race got to this point, and what we need to do now to achieve our chosen goal, which is full consciousness of the higher self while in a material body. He also describes some of the obstacles that have been put in our way by those who seek to exploit and enslave the planet. Most of his information is drawn from his own readings of the Akashic record, and to simplify for us the often confusing wealth of detail, he traces the thread of one soul who has always been connected with the Earth's story, the being he calls ?Merlin?, whose special task it has always been to act as the Earth's custodian and advisor. Full of information not available elsewhere about humanity, the Faerie and other beings who inhabit this planet, this book is sure to intrigue.

    199pp, 144mm x 205mm, illus. in b&w, Paperback, 2003



    THE UNIVERSAL SOUL BY CHRIS THOMAS 2005



    CONTENTS

    Introduction

    Chapter One The First Attempt at Humanity

    Chapter Two New Beginnings

    Chapter Three The Road to Answers

    Chapter Four The Human Plan

    Chapter Five Some Added Complications

    Chapter Six Other Forms of Interference

    Chapter Seven New Life, New Directions

    Chapter Eight Changes Beyond Our Earth

    Chapter Nine The Process of Change

    Chapter Ten Transitional Problems

    Chapter Eleven Conclusions

    Author’s Note

    Appendix One Some Helpful Exercises

    Appendix Two Chronological Chart






    The Universal Soul: Pages 19-20


    "With hindsight, the story can be told.

    The problems began with the slowing of the higher brain functions. This is to do with our abilities to psychically communicate with other people and other living things on the planet. We, ever so slowly, began to notice that it was increasingly difficult to communicate in this way. All souls within the Universe communicate by psychic means and so, to those who were on Atlantis, this form of communication was natural.

    As we began to, apparently, slow down, losses to this function were the first to be noticed. It was a little like television reception and transmission was perfectly clear but ‘interference’ began to be noticed. Images and messages began to become a little fuzzy around the edges and then they gradually slowed so that an act of extreme concentration was required to pass even the simplest messages. This slowing took place over several hundred years; this is why it took so long to notice.

    Other things then began to happen. Our communication with wild, predatory animals was instantaneous but this began to slow and so we began to feel threatened by their presence, particularly at night. We began to build shelter, communal sleeping places where a guard could be kept to ensure that no predators could approach unnoticed.

    The beginnings of the loss of trust between man & animals.

    This loss of trust began to build fear amongst the human population, very subtly at first but also insidious, like a drip feed into the sub-conscious. Never before had this kind of fear and mistrust ever been experienced. We began to shrink inwards, away from the world. Daytime was fine but night time began to hold fear for us. Protection became an issue, whereas it had never been before. As fear began to take hold, we also began to close inwards into ourselves and we began to argue. Factions began to form. Aggression began to show up for the first time. How? We lived on a world of perfect harmony. For fifteen thousand years we had lived in harmony with all living things, now we had begun to develop fear for other living things and aggression towards each other.

    Then things began to really deteriorate…"
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    Learning our TRUE HISTORY is therapy for the human race.

    It is each person's responsibility to clear their body of emotional blocks (using the Giveaway, etc.) so that the process of higher self integration into your physical body can begin. Beliefs are fleeting during this period of change. It is wise to hold them lightly. Mind, Body and Spirit are becoming ONE

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    groups, Neanderthal and Cro Magnon Man, the Earth began a new period of expansion and its diameter slowly enlarged. By the time Atlantis was established, 85,000 years ago, the planet’s diameter was 10% larger than it is now. As Atlantis developed (see chapter 2), the planet continued to grow and by 75,000 years ago it was about 30% larger than it currently is. This meant that sea level was about 200 feet lower than present.

    not really grasping this concept on how at first the diameter slowly enlarged.. but then Atlantis 85k yrs ago
    and the diameter was bigger than it is now.. by 10%.. then again the planet grew more but by 75k yrs ago it is still larger than it is now?
    did you mean the opposite? the planet was growing and it is 10% smaller and 30% smaller?
    heck i am getting confused trying to ask my question..
    i have realized the earth is growing a long time ago. but how can it get smaller? i can see for instance
    and apple getting smaller.. cuz i am eating the mass away but i think the earth once grown it is just that
    big now.!

    my thought is.. 85k yrs ago the planet grew 10% bigger than it was then.
    then at 75k yrs ago as Atlantis developed earth grew 30% more than it was at that time.
    which makes it in the current time 40% bigger than what it was then and she is still growing.!
    the water levels wont rise but fall to land mass. although, there is no loss as to how much ocean there is.
    just distributed to equal out the growth. still just as deep and none is actually lost.


    ====================

    With the destruction of Atlantis, the planet underwent a rapid shrinkage to about 90% of its present size. The rapid shrinkage brought about the surface changes that were experienced at the time. The rising of the Alps, the formation of the Himalayas etc. were all brought about by the shrinking. The sea level rose by about 300 feet and many lands were flooded.

    now i just cant get my head around how when atlantis was sunk where 90% of the land went? was it floating? so when it sank it caused the water to rise? it still seems even if it was floating that the mass
    of it would already have been calculated in the shore line of the water.
    the rising of the alps and himalayas etc.. seems to me were growing not shrinking.? this can cause the
    water to rise? arent both these areas on a land mass? and not poking up out of the ocean? now, i think
    if the poped up out of the ocean then it can cause this to happen, the water rise.


    i dont see how this can cause water rise when it was not poking out of the water but sprouted on existing
    land mass. is the continent floating too?

    help me out here.. plz.
    i dont know how the planet would shrink..

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    Quote Originally posted by Greenbarry View Post
    groups, Neanderthal and Cro Magnon Man, the Earth began a new period of expansion and its diameter slowly enlarged. By the time Atlantis was established, 85,000 years ago, the planet’s diameter was 10% larger than it is now. As Atlantis developed (see chapter 2), the planet continued to grow and by 75,000 years ago it was about 30% larger than it currently is. This meant that sea level was about 200 feet lower than present.

    not really grasping this concept on how at first the diameter slowly enlarged.. but then Atlantis 85k yrs ago
    and the diameter was bigger than it is now.. by 10%.. then again the planet grew more but by 75k yrs ago it is still larger than it is now?
    did you mean the opposite? the planet was growing and it is 10% smaller and 30% smaller?
    heck i am getting confused trying to ask my question..
    i have realized the earth is growing a long time ago. but how can it get smaller? i can see for instance
    and apple getting smaller.. cuz i am eating the mass away but i think the earth once grown it is just that
    big now.!

    my thought is.. 85k yrs ago the planet grew 10% bigger than it was then.
    then at 75k yrs ago as Atlantis developed earth grew 30% more than it was at that time.
    which makes it in the current time 40% bigger than what it was then and she is still growing.!
    the water levels wont rise but fall to land mass. although, there is no loss as to how much ocean there is.
    just distributed to equal out the growth. still just as deep and none is actually lost.


    ====================

    With the destruction of Atlantis, the planet underwent a rapid shrinkage to about 90% of its present size. The rapid shrinkage brought about the surface changes that were experienced at the time. The rising of the Alps, the formation of the Himalayas etc. were all brought about by the shrinking. The sea level rose by about 300 feet and many lands were flooded.

    now i just cant get my head around how when atlantis was sunk where 90% of the land went? was it floating? so when it sank it caused the water to rise? it still seems even if it was floating that the mass
    of it would already have been calculated in the shore line of the water.
    the rising of the alps and himalayas etc.. seems to me were growing not shrinking.? this can cause the
    water to rise? arent both these areas on a land mass? and not poking up out of the ocean? now, i think
    if the poped up out of the ocean then it can cause this to happen, the water rise.


    i dont see how this can cause water rise when it was not poking out of the water but sprouted on existing
    land mass. is the continent floating too?

    help me out here.. plz.
    i dont know how the planet would shrink..
    I think the only way to innerstand the "how" would be to think of the planet as energy. Years ago I watched a lecture of a scientist who explained the contraction and expanding theory of Earth. This theory has been buried because of the continental drift status quo theory. If I can ever find that video Greenbarry I'll share it. CT said Atlantis was sunk to the core of the Earth so no doubt that had severe energetic consequences.

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    I have a few questions if anyone knows the answer(s) and is willing to answer:

    1. This Universe is about 15 billion years old. What was before that time? What had been going on before this Universe was created? If the Universe was created, where the Creator had been living before that happened and what it had been doing?
    2. Is the so called Jeti being actually the Cro-Magnon being?
    3. Did carnivore animals kill other animals for food (as they usually do now) in the time of Atlantis? Has the food chain as we know it existed since the beginning?
    4. If all the animals are the creation of the Earth, why does she allow humans to enslave, torture, kill/eat them, do horrific experiments on them without their (animals') consent? A horse doesn't want to be ridden or to pull a wagon! They are bitten and forced to do that/to obey.
    5. What do a problem with heels (heel thorn) and hypochondria mean as HS messages?
    6. Why would one be afraid of chemtrails, HAARP, GMOs,...if that's not what one's HS and incarnated self want? How can one be affected if one doesn't want that?
    7. In 'Planet Earth - Universe's Experiment', on page 9, CT says: "The first phase of this universe choice lasted 395 000 million years and its choice was to start again." Now, I do not have all the CT's books, so I don't have all the information. What does it mean "...to start again."? Was there the first attempt of the creation of the Universe, and if there was, what happened?
    8. CT agrees that there are/were pyramids on Mars. If that's true, were the beings that Mars created so advanced that they knew how to make pyramids. Why weren't they used by non-physical beings as body model then?
    9. If there are beings/people on this world who want to harm the Earth and they use they free will to help the Velon, so those Velon cannot be removed because of that, why does the Earth allow those people to stay here?
    10. What do non-physical beings do when they are not on Earth? What's life like up there?

    Thanks in advance!
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    Hi Sandra, I will answer some of your questions with the caveat that others may have different insights. But I first want to recommend 2 books which I read before I knew about Chris Thomas. They fill in many gaps in the story which makes it a lot easier to understand C.T.'s information.

    And they are by two individuals did not get interfered with by the Velon when they did their work. One is Seth Speaks by Jane Roberts. The other is The Explorer Race and the Next 50 Years by Robert Shapiro.

    The former offers insight into who the creator is and life outside of this universe.

    The latter gives remarkable insight into Source and how our feelings are our greatest resource. I really enjoyed this book but it is not a quick read. It takes a lot of thought and introspection.

    1. This Universe is about 15 billion years old. What was before that time? What had been going on before this Universe was created? If the Universe was created, where the Creator had been living before that happened and what it had been doing?


    Discussing past experiences and possibilities of future experiences in terms of experiments and questions. Having fun together. This may sound trite but you would have to read the above mentioned books to get a feeling for the infinite possibilities of reality, the friendships, and things we have no words for.


    2. Is the so called Jeti being actually the Cro-Magnon being?

    Cro Magnon before the upgrades but also related to the experiments on Atlantis. In addition, Sasquatch et al are mostly the 4 proto-human groups who mainly chose not to participate in the upgrades on Atlantis. They have evolved very, very slowly for reasons not fully understood. Sasquatch have a group consciousness connected to the Earth Soul in the same way animals have a group consciousness. It has evolved to a point where it's ability to communicate telepathically is more advanced than most animals. But all animals have that capacity as do plants. Only humans have lost that ability.



    3. Did carnivore animals kill other animals for food (as they usually do now) in the time of Atlantis? Has the food chain as we know it existed since the beginning?

    If a carnivore has to eat meat then the answer is obvious but the harmonious nature of life was so very different then. For instance a deer might decide it was ready to return to spirit and a lion was needing subsistence so it was mutually agreeable. It's hard for us as sub-human to grasp this kind of cooperation and sharing. There has to be a limiting factor in population with all creations. That is understood in nature.

    Also less food is needed when you can live on sunlight to some extent so I think it's something we will have to experience to really know.



    4. If all the animals are the creation of the Earth, why does she allow humans to enslave, torture, kill/eat them, do horrific experiments on them without their (animals') consent? A horse doesn't want to be ridden or to pull a wagon! They are bitten and forced to do that/to obey.


    When the Fourteenth Faction was driven out of this universe it left 1/3 of the universe devoid of life and energy. Had it not been for the importance of the experiment taking place on Earth, the Universe would have been shut down and collapsed at that point. Every soul in the universe was consulted and it was unanimously agreed that The Human Plan was so close to completion that it was worth the extra energy required to keep the Universe going. We are answering one of the two most important questions asked by this universe.

    Is it possible for non-physical souls to experience physical reality?

    When we complete our full soul integration to become wholly human again, the resulting exultation will inspire every living soul to rejoice and this will be an impetus for the semi-physicals to begin their leap to non-physical. All eyes are on Earth and many races are doing what they can to ensure we are successful.

    Earth does not interfere with free will. The first purpose of this universe is to express all possibilities including the shadow side. Earth is waiting for humanity to remember our purpose which is to love and care for our friends the animals. Every animal wants a purpose and if a horse chooses to be ridden that is its way of expressing sharing and cooperation.

    The primary emphasis should be doing the inner clearing. The distractions in the news are designed to prevent this.



    5. What do a problem with heels (heel thorn) and hypochondria mean as HS messages?


    Someone who has read the 3 healing books by Chris Thomas should be able to answer this.


    6. Why would one be afraid of chemtrails, HAARP, GMOs,...if that's not what one's HS andincarnated self want? How can one be affected if one doesn't want that?

    The Higher Self works with whatever possibilities humans have created. It did not envisage chemtrails as something it wanted. But it is able to deal with anything that we can imagine. So someone imagined chemtrails and now we have to deal with them. We do this by being heart centered which, as the scientist, Harald Kautz has ably explained in his videos, makes us immune to the effects of chemtrails. When the ego is connected to the heart we become empathic and balanced and our vibrations rise above the reach of any influence on our DNA.

    Earth has done her part by taking the alien black goo and converting it to a 7 chakra system which is connected to the Earth consciousness. It is now heart centered like all animals.

    Earth is moving slowly to putting everything in place for a mass reintegration by those humans who have done their inner work. This slow process is designed so that as many as possible will be prepared for the change.




    7. In 'Planet Earth - Universe's Experiment', on page 9, CT says: "The first phase of this universe choice lasted 395 000 million years and its choice was to start again." Now, I do not have all the CT's books, so I don't have all the information. What does it mean "...to start again."? Was there the first attempt of the creation of the Universe, and if there was, what happened?

    Yes there was a first attempt and it was decided to start again. What happened is not discussed anywhere in C.T.'s books that I'm aware of..
    I believe the Jane Roberts' books cover this to some extent.




    8. CT agrees that there are/were pyramids on Mars. If that's true, were the beings that Mars created so advanced that they knew how to make pyramids. Why weren't they used by non-physical beings as body model then?

    Earth, being the last planet to create higher life forms, decided to take the Cro' Magnon prototype rather than the evolved Cro Magnon from Mars so that she could put her own organic stamp on Cro' Magnon's development and evolution. The pyramids on Mars prove that they also had a problem with the base frequency of the planet not being high enough to support the whole non-physical soul within a physical body. They simply could not maintain the higher dimensional vibrations with whatever low frequency Schumann Resonance Mars chose to use.



    9. If there are beings/people on this world who want to harm the Earth and they use they free will to help the Velon, so those Velon cannot be removed because of that, why does the Earth allow those people to stay here?

    Universal free will allows every human to make that choice. Even not making a decision is a choice. Also the Velon have found ways to hide and disguise their vibrations. We can't force a person to stop channeling the Velon. It is their choice, even when they are being tricked with false love vibrations which the Velon are perfectly capable of doing. It takes experience to recognize false love and sometimes children do not have that experience so they are easily misled in seeking desperately to find a purpose in life. Sadly the Velon are only too ready to give them a sense of purpose.


    10. What do non-physical beings do when they are not on Earth? What's life like up there?


    Robert Monroe's trilogy beginning with Journey Out of Body gives insight into this. They explore, play sports where one soul is the ball, another is the bat, and so on. Crack the whip is a favorite sport. They have experiences but do not have the richness of experiences offered by Earth.


    11. I have one more question that I forgot to ask. If you know and if you'd be so kind to tell. Eight thousand years ago the majority of souls present on Earth left in order to discuss and arrange a new way of leaving. So, seven thousand years ago, HP began. If the way we come here is through a birthing process, who gave birth to the first arrivals back then?

    I am answering your final question here Sandra so that they are all together. When we left the planet to consult with our higher selves, 10% of the population volunteered to stay behind for tending to the crops and the animals. The birthing process had fully taken hold by 12,000 years ago and most of the primate/humans had become humans after 3 generations with their consent. So 10% of the population was here for birthing the new template of a split soul. We were already accustomed to splitting the soul because of the birthing of children where the whole soul has not entered the physical body until the late teens.

    The only change was that the soul would remain split throughout each incarnation for the next 7,000 years so that past life memories were forgotten and not available during the lifetime. You may wonder how long it would take for us to reincarnate given only 10% of our original population was here to give birth. But you have to remember that our current birthrate of 1 or 2 children per family is an anomaly. My own grandparents, great grandparents and great, great grandparents had an average of 10 to 12 children. It is only in this past 100 years of "modern" society that birthrates have dropped. So it would only take about 3 generations to replenish the human population after the exit.

    My first thoughts on this subject were how much work it must have been to bury all the corpses when the great die-off took place. Scientists have mistakenly attributed this die-off to destruction by meteors hitting the Earth. The Akashic does not record any such destruction. It was simply a choice made by the human population to leave for 1000 years in order to work out a plan, The Human Plan, for solving the problem of the loss of our higher abilities.






    Those are my thoughts but others will have more insight, so I welcome additional answers from anyone who wishes to share.
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    Herbert, thank you for your help!

    Unfortunately, I read only two healing books by CT and his wife. So, if the answers are there, my mistake I didn't find them! I can figure out the message myself to some degree, but I though someone can tell more precisely.

    I have one more question that I forgot to ask. If you know and if you'd be so kind to tell. Eight thousand years ago the majority of souls present on Earth left in order to discuss and arrange a new way of leaving. So, seven thousand years ago, HP began. If the way we come here is through a birthing process, who gave birth to the first arrivals back then?

    Thanks once again.

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    Well Herb it looks like we have more proof of the conspiracy to bury the work of Chris Thomas. I guess it's not considered "The One Truth". Hope all participating and reading this thread are able to find it. I guess I should say thank you to the mods that it has not totally disappeared.

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