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    What really boggles My mind is Velus destiny. Why Guardians did not push Him out of Universe? As far as CT's work is concerned Velon peoples actually abandoned idea of welcoming Velus in newly created Solar Sytem. For Me it is quite obvious that main drive behind of the rest Velon folks is Velus himself. He has a huge in terms of energy potential, I mean Velons can use his potential to maintain their activity at needed level. My HS says They are using. It does not make sense in terms of removing Velons people while letting Their leader to stay "untouched". CT said that He was moved to the parts of Universe destroyed by 14th. As far as potential of solar system conciuosness is concerned Velus energy potential alows Him to transmit His energy flow to any part of Universe without any problems. I mean why 13 did not create another solar system just for Velus and His devoted fanatics alone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ntonyo View Post
    What really boggles My mind is Velus destiny. Why Guardians did not push Him out of Universe? As far as CT's work is concerned Velon peoples actually abandoned idea of welcoming Velus in newly created Solar Sytem. For Me it is quite obvious that main drive behind of the rest Velon folks is Velus himself. He has a huge in terms of energy potential, I mean Velons can use his potential to maintain their activity at needed level. My HS says They are using. It does not make sense in terms of removing Velons people while letting Their leader to stay "untouched". CT said that He was moved to the parts of Universe destroyed by 14th. As far as potential of solar system conciuosness is concerned Velus energy potential alows Him to transmit His energy flow to any part of Universe without any problems. I mean why 13 did not create another solar system just for Velus and His devoted fanatics alone?
    There are two Velus. Velus 2 was a sun in the Velon solar system. He remained behind when the Velon came to Earth following Velus 1's exit. Velus 1 was a planet and, unusually, the primary energy of their solar system. Velus 2 was the secondary energy.

    Velus 1 eventually entered the body of a human named Adam Weishaupt by reanimating his dead body. He effectively took over the formation of the Illuminati financially backed by Meyer Amschel Rothschild. Because of his unusual energetic powers, Velus 1 in human form became known as Spartacus. He has also appropriately become known as Lucifer because of his deeds and powerful energies. When the 6th Emissary engineered coup took place in 2009, Velus 1 was exposed to the Guardians and removed from the planet and his spirit was returned to the Creator. He no longer exists and this has been verified not only by Chris Thomas but also by others who are highly sensitive empaths.

    As for Velus 2, he never made it to Earth. He was summoned and en route when the Velon remaining on Earth thought they had succeeded in removing the Earth soul during the failed celestoriums debacle. The Guardians put a stop to the celestoriums and removed Velus 2 to an empty area of space in our Universe. This is a dead area of space caused by the 14th faction and devoid of all energy making Velus 2 powerless.

    By the way, the Velon solar system is not located within this universe. The new Velon solar system was actually constructed outside our Universe, where the energy potential is infinite.

    It is not possible for me to give our thread readers the fully flowing picture that is contained in Chris Thomas' 8 beautifully written history books. But in order to clear up some misconceptions and faulty logic I will share a few brief quotes. To characterize the Creator of this universe as the bad guy and the Velon as the good guys is just nonsense. Much more could be said regarding misinterpretations but my time is short and Chris Thomas' work, for anyone who takes the time to read it, speaks for itself. He spent 30 years doing his careful research. Earth herself specifically asked Chris to do this work and Earth is nobody's fool.


    Regarding the 14th Faction ENERGIES:
    "those unwelcome energies have now been fully removed from the solar system and the universe and humanity has begun to settle into the chosen task.

    The removal of these energies has given massive impetus for change and the signs of acceleration of change to meet our deadline are everywhere. Those who are used to removing the choices of others are losing their way as they begin to realise that humanity is no longer pliable to their manipulations. They are beginning to resort to acts of massive betrayal and destruction to maintain their position of power but the mood of humanity, as a whole, is one where the fear engendered by these acts of violence is short lived and those responsible for such acts are being found out despite attempting to blame others to mask their actions." Chris Thomas

    "The Fourteenth Faction have been destroyed and all of their energy patterns removed from Earth and from the universe as a whole and returned to the Creationary source.

    The final acts of this struggle have been completed and no more can this universe be threatened by outside forces." Chris Thomas

    Regarding the Velon:
    "The Fourteenth Faction came from another universe, bringing with them the energies from which they were naturally constructed. They could do nothing other than remove freedom of choice and it was a fundamental part of their make-up. The Velons had no such excuse. Their religious fervour had pushed them to the point where they were prepared to break the only ‘law’ that exists within this universe and they knew that they were doing it.

    The Fourteenth Faction caused a considerable amount of damage in this universe (see later), but the Velon shook this universe to its foundations to a point where the universe was at the point of collapse and would return to Source. If those on earth were not so close to completing their goal, there would have been no hesitation – the universe would be no more.

    Each soul within the universe is connected, on one level or another, and on particular circumstances all can communicate to each other. This ability was put into use to try to find a solution to how the Velons should be dealt with. This is the ultimate form of democracy. Each soul has a voice and every single soul within this universe was asked for its opinion. We on Earth also voted but most are not consciously aware of the vote taking place as this was done by our ‘higher selves’.

    98% of the universe voted for the expulsion of the Velons, this included the Velons themselves. The other 2% wanted to give the Velons a chance to redeem themselves. This was actually attempted but Velon actions since the vote, or at least actions taken by the Velon ‘religious’ leaders, have shown that there cannot be any reconciliation. This is what is currently occurring [2005]. The Velons are being expelled from this universe. This universe will lose a whole race by the middle of 2005.

    This step has never been made before and, hopefully, never again. It was only taken because the universe’s choice is to see humanity complete its chosen task. The amount of reconstructing taking place within our universe is beyond our comprehension (see later) but we are being given every opportunity to bring The Human Plan to its hoped for conclusion."
    Chris Thomas

    Regarding the Earth:
    "The atmospheric changes are occurring because we need an atmosphere that is different to the one we have been breathing. We also need to remove the ice from the North Pole. There will be some consequences to these changes for all life, particularly within the Northern Hemisphere. These changes are occurring in an effort to regain the balance we once had on Atlantis.

    The skewed global axis is shifting back to vertical and the atmosphere is shifting along with it, all planned by the Earth and all planned as part of the concluding chapters of the Human Plan.

    There is, however, the problem of man-made pollution on the planet’s surface that is our responsibility. The millions of tons of industrial waste, nuclear waste and oil spillages need to be cleared up by us. This is not something we can do successfully before we complete our reintegration process. When we have completed our plans, we will all be equipped to deal with this abomination by psychic means. Any attempts before we have made our changes will not be effective.

    If we were capable of cleaning up this mess before we completed, all we would do is allow the polluters to continue. With the atmosphere and surface in its current mess it is, at least, forcing people to look at the issue and begin to realise their responsibilities." Chris Thomas
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    Learning and practicing discernment replaces rigidly held belief systems with flexibility and confidence to express your freedom of choice.

    It is each person's responsibility to clear their body of emotional blocks so that the process of higher self integration into your physical body can begin. Beliefs are fleeting during this period of change. It is wise to hold them lightly. Mind, Body and Spirit are becoming ONE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert View Post
    There are to Velus. Velus 2 was a sun in the Velon solar system. He remained behind when the Velon came to Earth following Velus 1's exit. Velus 1 was a planet and, unusually, the primary energy of their solar system. Velus 2 was the secondary energy.

    Velus 1 eventually entered the body of a human named Adam Weishaupt by reanimating his dead body. He effectively took over the formation of the Illuminati financially backed by Meyer Amschel Rothschild. Because of his unusual energetic powers, Velus 1 in human form became known as Spartacus. He has also appropriately become known as Lucifer because of his deeds and powerful energies. When the 6th Emissary engineered coup took place in 2009, Velus 1 was exposed to the Guardians and removed from the planet and his spirit was returned to the Creator. He no longer exists and this has been verified not only by Chris Thomas but also by others who are highly sensitive empaths.

    As for Velus 2, he never made it to Earth. He was summoned and en route when the Velon remaining on Earth thought they had succeeded in removing the Earth soul during the failed celestoriums debacle. The Guardians put a stop to the celestoriums and removed Velus 2 to an empty area of space in our Universe. This is a dead area of space caused by the 14th faction and devoid of all energy making Velus 2 powerless.

    By the way, the Velon solar system is not located within this universe. The new Velon solar system was actually constructed outside our Universe, where the energy potential is infinite.

    It is not possible for me to give our thread readers the fully flowing picture that is contained in Chris Thomas' 8 beautifully written history books. But in order to clear up some misconceptions and faulty logic I will share a few brief quotes. To characterize the Creator of this universe as the bad guy and the Velon as the good guys is just nonsense. Much more could be said regarding misinterpretations but my time is short and Chris Thomas' work, for anyone who takes the time to read it, speaks for itself. He spent 30 years doing his careful research. Earth herself specifically asked Chris to do this work and Earth is nobody's fool.


    Regarding the 14th Faction ENERGIES:
    "those unwelcome energies have now been fully removed from the solar system and the universe and humanity has begun to settle into the chosen task.

    The removal of these energies has given massive impetus for change and the signs of acceleration of change to meet our deadline are everywhere. Those who are used to removing the choices of others are losing their way as they begin to realise that humanity is no longer pliable to their manipulations. They are beginning to resort to acts of massive betrayal and destruction to maintain their position of power but the mood of humanity, as a whole, is one where the fear engendered by these acts of violence is short lived and those responsible for such acts are being found out despite attempting to blame others to mask their actions." Chris Thomas

    "The Fourteenth Faction have been destroyed and all of their energy patterns removed from Earth and from the universe as a whole and returned to the Creationary source.

    The final acts of this struggle have been completed and no more can this universe be threatened by outside forces." Chris Thomas

    Regarding the Velon:
    "The Fourteenth Faction came from another universe, bringing with them the energies from which they were naturally constructed. They could do nothing other than remove freedom of choice and it was a fundamental part of their make-up. The Velons had no such excuse. Their religious fervour had pushed them to the point where they were prepared to break the only ‘law’ that exists within this universe and they knew that they were doing it.

    The Fourteenth Faction caused a considerable amount of damage in this universe (see later), but the Velon shook this universe to its foundations to a point where the universe was at the point of collapse and would return to Source. If those on earth were not so close to completing their goal, there would have been no hesitation – the universe would be no more.

    Each soul within the universe is connected, on one level or another, and on particular circumstances all can communicate to each other. This ability was put into use to try to find a solution to how the Velons should be dealt with. This is the ultimate form of democracy. Each soul has a voice and every single soul within this universe was asked for its opinion. We on Earth also voted but most are not consciously aware of the vote taking place as this was done by our ‘higher selves’.

    98% of the universe voted for the expulsion of the Velons, this included the Velons themselves. The other 2% wanted to give the Velons a chance to redeem themselves. This was actually attempted but Velon actions since the vote, or at least actions taken by the Velon ‘religious’ leaders, have shown that there cannot be any reconciliation. This is what is currently occurring [2005]. The Velons are being expelled from this universe. This universe will lose a whole race by the middle of 2005.

    This step has never been made before and, hopefully, never again. It was only taken because the universe’s choice is to see humanity complete its chosen task. The amount of reconstructing taking place within our universe is beyond our comprehension (see later) but we are being given every opportunity to bring The Human Plan to its hoped for conclusion."
    Chris Thomas

    Regarding the Earth:
    "The atmospheric changes are occurring because we need an atmosphere that is different to the one we have been breathing. We also need to the ice from the North Pole. There will be some consequences to these changes for all life, particularly within the Northern Hemisphere. These changes are occurring in an effort to regain the balance we once had on Atlantis.

    The skewed global axis is shifting back to vertical and the atmosphere is shifting along with it, all planned by the Earth and all planned as part of the concluding chapters of the Human Plan.

    There is, however, the problem of man-made pollution on the planet’s surface that is our responsibility. The millions of tons of industrial waste, nuclear waste and oil spillages need to be cleared up by us. This is not something we can do successfully before we complete our reintegration process. When we have completed our plans, we will all be equipped to deal with this abomination by psychic means. Any attempts before we have made our changes will not be effective.

    If we were capable of cleaning up this mess before we completed, all we would do is allow the polluters to continue. With the atmosphere and surface in its current mess it is, at least, forcing people to look at the issue and begin to realise their responsibilities." Chris Thomas
    A lot of problems have occurred on this planet due to people reading and repeating word for word of religious books.

    Physically prove the Velon activity by releasing the emerald tablets from there time vault as has now should be. Read the akashick records with full soul integration as so should be for a clear truthful disclouser.

    Anything else is blind faith.

    And just repeating from books that is based on if it resonates with you.

    Thousands resonated with Hitler.

    Millions of girls resonate in hysteria with boy bands.

    The bible had the same effect.

    There is a black art that can cause this effect and it has been used on all the above for universal hysteria phenomenon.

    Prove all this info to your self do not just take others words for it. My time is up.

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    The universe began with the breath of life.

    Check this out.

    The Kahunas are the closest relations to Atlantis.

    For those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

    Velus could be the new mother earth consciousness. Check out the man who wrote " not in his image " his you tube video of revealing who Lucifer is points in this case to an earthly consciousness take over by the velus consciousness.

    Best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synagex View Post
    The universe began with the breath of life.

    Check this out.

    The Kahunas are the closest relations to Atlantis.

    For those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

    Velus could be the new mother earth consciousness. Check out the man who wrote " not in his image " his you tube video of revealing who Lucifer is points in this case to an earthly consciousness take over by the velus consciousness.

    Best of luck.
    In my recollection of John Lamb Lash's Navigator Briefings, he stated Lucifer to be the Planet Venus. Has he changed his views? JLL himself has claimed to have seen/felt the consciousness of Sophia/Earth. I cannot imagine him ever insinuating a consciousness takeover. Can you provide a link to a video of this?

    An extraction of the Earth's consciousness has already been attempted by the Hathors. They failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert View Post
    There are two Velus. Velus 2 was a sun in the Velon solar system. He remained behind when the Velon came to Earth following Velus 1's exit. Velus 1 was a planet and, unusually, the primary energy of their solar system. Velus 2 was the secondary energy.

    Velus 1 eventually entered the body of a human named Adam Weishaupt by reanimating his dead body. He effectively took over the formation of the Illuminati financially backed by Meyer Amschel Rothschild. Because of his unusual energetic powers, Velus 1 in human form became known as Spartacus. He has also appropriately become known as Lucifer because of his deeds and powerful energies. When the 6th Emissary engineered coup took place in 2009, Velus 1 was exposed to the Guardians and removed from the planet and his spirit was returned to the Creator. He no longer exists and this has been verified not only by Chris Thomas but also by others who are highly sensitive empaths.

    As for Velus 2, he never made it to Earth. He was summoned and en route when the Velon remaining on Earth thought they had succeeded in removing the Earth soul during the failed celestoriums debacle. The Guardians put a stop to the celestoriums and removed Velus 2 to an empty area of space in our Universe. This is a dead area of space caused by the 14th faction and devoid of all energy making Velus 2 powerless.

    By the way, the Velon solar system is not located within this universe. The new Velon solar system was actually constructed outside our Universe, where the energy potential is infinite.
    Thank you Herbert for making it clear.

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    Chris said the V were free of 14? Ok, I can't recall that but maybe you are on it?

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    I understand Chris does not yield on his stance all 14 energies have been removed. It is of no consequence to me. Resolution is my only wish.

    Everything has an energetic cause I think he wrote. 14 energies are still contributing to what appears to be an ongoing problem - change on a massive scale is being interfered with and to discount the most disruptive energy patterns (14) to zero is not my call. These energies have caused so many problems...

    My posts on this matter are a waste of time. It is my unsupported opinion so I shall refrain. Maybe they will reveal themselves in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbs View Post
    I understand Chris does not yield on his stance all 14 energies have been removed. It is of no consequence to me. Resolution is my only wish.

    Everything has an energetic cause I think he wrote. 14 energies are still contributing to what appears to be an ongoing problem - change on a massive scale is being interfered with and to discount the most disruptive energy patterns (14) to zero is not my call. These energies have caused so many problems...

    My posts on this matter are a waste of time. It is my unsupported opinion so I shall refrain. Maybe they will reveal themselves in the future.
    I think the 14th are gone but did cause an energetic shift in the human collective. If you think of everything created through "thought" (which is how the creator created this universe), we are dealing with human created negative thought forms needing to be fed to stay alive. Some refer to these as demons. A somewhat complicated subject but my feeling as to what is going on.

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    Firehorse, please tell us how you REALLY feel! Ha ha ha

    You forgot the "massive fingers/hands" comment. I suppose if you are 8-15 feet tall this would be true. Another clue is "filling in gaps." I come to a Chris Thomas thread/forum thingy to talk about banned books etc. I am not here to discuss Mary Poppins or the Tooth Fairy.

    I am also done with the 14. Nobody agrees their energies are still here etc. Better to move on because the thread is more important.

    Firehorse called out V agenda. I agree. That is not a personal comment nor do I mean malice. I have a softer approach and choose to ignore things I disagree with. However, Firehorse gave a lot of effort to back up Her intuition.

    She is suspicious and explains why. Thx for thinking outside the box I say...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireHorse View Post
    The statement of "my time is up" reminds of Edgar Cayce's "we have the body", only in reverse.
    I guess this is one of those examples of how easy it is for someone's words to get misinterpreted, and as someone who himself gets misinterpreted on a regular basis, I can relate to Synagex in that regard.

    The reason why Synagex wrote that his time was up was simply that he had requested the retirement of his account the day before, but as we then always do with members who request their retirement, we granted him a 24-hour grace time, just in case he were to change his mind.

    Synagex committed his last post here on the thread literally within 15 minutes before his 24-hour grace time was about to expire, and he was well-aware of that. He even contacted me after posting here on the thread to let me know he was ready to go in retirement. And so that's why he said his time was up.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    The old "spew and split trick" eh? No matter.

    Does it really surprise anyone the V agenda would reveal itself here? I'm am truly an idiot. My posts prove it. 15 footers are taking time for a pint sized idiot Orb?

    I guess talking good about banned books is important to them...

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    That's funny, Orbs. "Spew and Split". I like it.

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    Before I forget I was thinking about the Human Plan. Chris stated countless times it was a 7000 year period where we learned what it was like to be human. Fair enough but we weren't "human" - we were sub-human.

    We learned about being sub-human. We didn't learn a thing about being human.

    We did find out about changing the frequency etc. but I only read about what it is like to be human. Just saying...

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