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Thread: An ongoing Chris Thomas thread for those who resonate with his alternative view of reality and history

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Russia is a nation, not a psyop.

    Of course Putin would like to influence and control things in the US as much as he can. Why in the world wouldn't he? There's not much in Russia other than oil. He needs to take over more countries again and if he can have a malleable President here who lets him whisper in his ear then he can get away with invasions and occupations.

    Of course he's going to screw with us, our elections and our leadership.

    As long as people keep turning a blind eye, he'll keep it up.

    He's no dummy.
    There is as yet no legally accepted evidence that Putin had anything to do with the 2016 US elections. There is however sufficient evidence that the USA have been interfering with elections and internal affairs in just about every other nation on the planet; and have even engaged in contract killings on behalf of certain governments and regimes ─ primarily colonialist and pro-fascist ones.


    • Patrice Lumumba, the first democratically elected and socialist prime minister of the Republic of Congo was assassinated by the CIA for the Belgian government, who were not happy with Congo's independence. Lumumba was then replaced by dictator Mobutu Sese Seko, who was in league with the Belgian colonialists.

    • Ernesto "Che" Guevara, the socialist revolutionary who led the Cuban revolution with Fidel Castro against the CIA-sponsored fascist dictator Fulgencio Batista, was assassinated in his prison cell in Argentina by a CIA operative.

    • Operation Gladio was a CIA stay-behind sleeper agent network in Europe during the (first) Cold War for in the event that the Soviet Union were to invade Western Europe. They were linked to several right-wing terrorist attacks in Italy, former Yugoslavia and other nations, and they were also suspected ─ albeit unproven, given how the investigation had been sabotaged from day one and has remained ongoing for over 30 years now ─ to have been involved with, if not behind, the Brabant Killers here in Belgium.

    • The social unrest and political turmoil of late in Venezuela and other South American countries is the result of US intervention ─ first under Bush, then under Obama, and now under Trump ─ as exposed by Abby Martin.

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    I therefore think it's a little unfair to now blame the Russians ─ again, without that as yet any evidence has been been provided ─ of interference in the 2016 elections, and especially given that the USA has been doing that very same thing all over the world ever since World War II.

    What goes around, comes around, remember?
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    According to my Venezuelan neighbor it wasn't Americans...until now...he says it was infiltration by the Cubans, through Cubans, Russians, then Chinese and finally the Americans that have disabled the government. His mother still lives there and visits often.

    The right wing coup thing has mostly been conducted by right wing American governments (if accurate, i need to investigate). The one I am recently aware of is an immoral scheme by American right wing military (as if there was any other kind) that was uncategorically kiboshed by JFK so the left has done what they can to stop them. There is a difference between the two 'sides'.

    Sorry to say, but if one digs deep enough, one will always find the right at the bottom of the steaming pile.

    or anyone else that is authoritarian
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    I just let thd opinion go. It’s Christmas and Dream wanted to speak up.

    I absolutely believe Chris regarding Russian/American collusion and think the whole thing is a scam. Unfortunately we had a little dong when I was a kid called “duck and cover.” What kind of sick shit is that?

    Children crawling under a desk because of Russian attack in nowhere’s ville? Get away from the flying glass? Wtf? What about the radiation?

    Don’t get me going. I’m so fed up with all the mind control psycho babble bullshit.

    I won’t go along with the Russian bogey man insanity at all. I apologize. As far as I know Putty is thd Trumpets cousin snd was best man at Clinton’s fake wedding.

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    Che Guevara is executed
    On October 9, 1967, socialist revolutionary and guerilla leader Che Guevara, age 39, is killed by the Bolivian army. The U.S.-military-backed Bolivian forces captured Guevara on October 8 while battling his band of guerillas in Bolivia and executed him the following day. His hands were cut off as proof of death and his body was buried in an unmarked grave. In 1997, Guevara’s remains were found and sent back to Cuba, where they were reburied in a ceremony attended by President Fidel Castro and thousands of Cubans.

    Ernesto Rafael Guevara de la Serna was born to a well-off family in Argentina in 1928. While studying medicine at the University of Buenos Aires, he took time off to travel around South America on a motorcycle; during this time, he witnessed the poverty and oppression of the lower classes. He received a medical degree in 1953 and continued his travels around Latin America, becoming involved with left-wing organizations. In the mid 1950s, Guevara met up with Fidel Castro and his group of exiled revolutionaries in Mexico. Guevara played a key role in Castro’s seizure of power from Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista in 1959 and later served as Castro’s right-hand man and minister of industry. Guevara strongly opposed U.S. domination in Latin America and advocated peasant-based revolutions to combat social injustice in Third World countries. Castro later described him as “an artist of revolutionary warfare.”

    Guevara resigned—some say he was dismissed—from his Cuban government post in April 1965, possibly over differences with Castro about the nation’s economic and foreign policies. Guevara then disappeared from Cuba, traveled to Africa and eventually resurfaced in Bolivia, where he was killed. Following his death, Guevara achieved hero status among people around the world as a symbol of anti-imperialism and revolution. A 1960 photo taken by Alberto Korda of Guevara in a beret became iconic and has since appeared on countless posters and T-shirts. However, not everyone considers Guevara a hero: He is accused, among other things, of ordering the deaths of hundreds of people in Cuban prisons during the revolution.

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-...ra-is-executed
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    According to my Venezuelan neighbor it wasn't Americans...until now...he says it was infiltration by the Cubans, through Cubans, Russians, then Chinese and finally the Americans that have disabled the government. His mother still lives there and visits often.
    So you're saying that Abby Martin and her crew risked their lives in Venezuela so they could make up some lies to cover for the Cubans, the Russians and the Chinese in order to make Uncle Sam look bad?
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    no, not at all...I admire Dear Abby Martin...she is a very good journalist...perhaps a little shaded though...Everything is a lie...remember? So what do we believe? I actually trust her...so perhaps more investigation is in order. I do believe living it is pretty strong, reporting on it is secondary even with the best of journalistic integrity.

    Bill Clinton is a good focal point for evidence of the left is bad thing, though. Hmm Bill Clinton, a good narcissist gone bad, let us not forget he had to deal with Hillary and we all know killary is Soros' right hand evil minion.

    Seriously, though...in their relationship would be a poopoo load of dialecticism.
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Che Guevara is executed
    On October 9, 1967, socialist revolutionary and guerilla leader Che Guevara, age 39, is killed by the Bolivian army. The U.S.-military-backed Bolivian forces captured Guevara on October 8 while battling his band of guerillas in Bolivia and executed him the following day. His hands were cut off as proof of death and his body was buried in an unmarked grave. [...]
    It wasn't the Bolivians who executed him. It was the CIA, although the Bolivians knew about it ─ Guevara was after all in a prison cell. They did cut off his hands, yes.

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    [...] However, not everyone considers Guevara a hero: He is accused, among other things, of ordering the deaths of hundreds of people in Cuban prisons during the revolution.
    That much is true. He did order their execution. Fidel initially objected but eventually consented.
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    there are a number of Russian operatives under indictment by ze American government. As yet they haven't shown up for trial though
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    there are a number of Russian operatives under indictment by ze American government. As yet they haven't shown up for trial though
    That doesn't prove anything. The US government is pretty quick at indicting and demanding extradition. Gary McKinnon, anyone? Julian Assange?
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    It wasn't the Bolivians who executed him. It was the CIA, although the Bolivians knew about it ─ Guevara was after all in a prison cell..
    yeah, it's funny but not...the article says "he was later executed"...ha, the next day.

    I remember the t-shirts well, a friend of mine had one...I always had 2nd thoughts about it, actually. I had a Cuban friend that escaped Cuba after the revolution and I knew others that escaped under machine gun fire. I always wondered 'Why?' I would not have worn the t-shirt.

    Mckinnon and especially Assange have done nothing to hurt American 'sovereignty'? Let me say that i could care less about this bs thing called 'sovereignty' (as a concept) but many think it is a human right...governments, however, are not human...
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Mckinnon and especially Assange have done nothing to hurt American 'sovereignty'?
    Certainly not McKinnon. The USA claimed millions of USD worth of damage, but all McKinnon did was log into servers with a blank password and look at some files. He didn't even download anything because his connection was too slow ─ he was on dialup.

    Assange is accused of having hired hackers, but that's only a recent development. They initially wanted him because he had published the material he got from Bradley/Chelsea Manning. The hacking allegation only came later.

    The two women who accused Assange of having had unsafe sex with them against their objections in Sweden ─ where that is legally tantamount to rape ─ have already retracted their testimonies. One retracted it after a short time, the other one more recently. Everyone knew it was a setup, but the US government is a loyal adherent of the Dunning-Kruger effect; they think everyone's just as stupid as they are.
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    One other thing did occur to me about Venezuela and U.S. relations. Obama was the 1st President in 60 years to reach out to Cuba to normalize relations. I was glad to see it because Cuban Americans and American Cubans have been ostracized from each other for far too long. Trump immediately undid that outreach.

    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Everyone knew it was a setup, but the US government is a loyal adherent of the Dunning-Kruger effect; they think everyone's just as stupid as they are.
    lol, ok, i'll check on you, you know...
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    I would be guarded of anything Oguana did. That thing is dangerous.

    However, soot yourself.

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    Oh well. Christmas is over. Always drama it seems.

    2020 around the corner. I had hoped the trumpet would have disclosed certain things but hope is a strange beast. Nobody is ratting out anyone yet they all want to win at any cost.

    Doesn’t make sense. If I was president I would vanquish my enemies immediately starting out by exposing them for not using their birth names. An IRS audit next, etc. publish their voting records. Expose fake children. Prove Oguanas birth certificate was fraud. Disclose spraying. Disclose the SSP. Show the warren commission was a scam. Disclose foreign aid as a scam. End the Federal reserve.

    Disclose free energy. Disclose other life.

    The Trumpet doesn’t do any of these things. Nobody does. It just escalates losses for American citizens. I don’t get it. Nobody is arrested. Nothing stops anyone. Golfing. Unlimited expenses.

    How may of you would forfeit $400,000 if you had unlimited expenses that paid for everything?

    The truth about so many things is buried. When is anyone going to be shackled?

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Russia is a nation, not a psyop.

    Of course Putin would like to influence and control things in the US as much as he can. Why in the world wouldn't he? There's not much in Russia other than oil. He needs to take over more countries again and if he can have a malleable President here who lets him whisper in his ear then he can get away with invasions and occupations.

    Of course he's going to screw with us, our elections and our leadership.

    As long as people keep turning a blind eye, he'll keep it up.

    He's no dummy.
    You need nothing but the warmth of thems, DT. Your above narrative is outrite brainwashing embraced imo.

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