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    I for one would welcome interviews with them. I like to listen to interviews. It's communication in action (hopefully) and gives opportunity for questions and expansion of ideas. It's dialogue. And as you've said, ad infinitum, there's no requirement to listen. Please continue to consider this idea.

    Besides, The One, if it's you doing them, even better. I like your voice.

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    If you read my sentence correctly i said i did not want any of my future guests ridiculed as clearly sated on my mission statement on home page here http://jandeane81.com/index.php?

    I am not having a vetting procedure for future guests.As always we would welcome healthy debate and as long as we can behave responsibly and treat one another with respect.

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    I'm not vetting anyone. This is your forum. I want to do a private research project on a different site.

    This thread was started by another member and I responded. No one said they would tell you what to do. It might help the forum atmosphere if you weren't so overbearing and patriarchal with your decisions. You bill this site as a fresh alternative to Avalon, but the rules are heavy handed and strict. Threads get locked, and members banned way too easily.

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    I'm not vetting anyone. This is your forum. I want to do a private research project on a different site
    Great stuff

    It might help the forum atmosphere if you weren't so overbearing and patriarchal with your decisions
    I think we are more than fair with the flow of things here now.Its actually been quite for a while which is good as i don't like headaches or drama lol.

    but the rules are heavy handed and strict.
    I will have to disagree the rules have been rewritten are are very fair in my opinion.

    and members banned way too easily
    The last member that was banned was Freebird back 25th May 2015 for impersonating who was actually member Healthy sceptic. The.The one before that was on the 29th April 2015 for the same.In total from when this forum started over nearly 4 years ago there have been a total of 24 members banned.I think we should be commended for that.We do not ban members straight away,we will always try and defuse a situation before it gets out of hand

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    OK, thanks for the reply. I have no time for forum dramas or multi-post discussions. None of us do. This is your living room and you can talk to people however you want. If you could tell me how to archive my posts that might help.

    EDIT: I enjoyed your post on bamboo houses the other day. So we can move on and do something productive... I have to go, will be back in about 12 hours.

    Cheers.
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    Quote Originally posted by Contact Point View Post
    OK, thanks for the reply. I have no time for forum dramas or multi-post discussions. None of us do. This is your living room and you can talk to people however you want. If you could tell me how to archive my posts that might help.
    I don't and you wont believe this but i am not sure how to archive post i am being honest.I hope one day as a species we will all be able to take constitutive criticism but i think its in our nature to bite back

    Maybe we all need to evolve a bit more before we can move forward.

    p.s for the record i like your posts
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    I hope one day as a species we learn how to archive posts.

    This is a stressful/exciting time and everyone misunderstands things sometimes. Focusing on new housing and healing is one of the most useful things anyone can do.

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    I hope one day as a species we learn how to archive posts.
    lol

    I would end up deleting them lol if i find out i will pm you i have already taken this thread off topic and apologise



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    Quote Originally posted by Sam Hunter
    Great Post - and some would suggest some of my posts "spank" indeed.
    I think I was unclear about the context I was trying to refer to with my "better parents" comment. Indeed thinking about empowering humanity and joining our forces even while being from diverse cultures, values etc. An unproven story in context that is empowerment, metaphorically or otherwise, is meant to be an equivalent to reasoning with our children in an educative way. Other unproven stories that I would be inclined to see as not empowering is equivalent to encouraging or motivating humanity as a horse might be motivated by a whip.

    Quote Originally posted by Sam Hunter
    What factors of the paradigm(s) suggested by the experiences can be drawn forth and measured as to attractiveness or not?

    What underlying dynamics can be seen at play within the paradigm(s) suggested by the experiencer?
    Indeed I would say the first is more congruent to the criteria I put forth, except perhaps I define a more specific criteria by which to measure attractiveness and I specify the factor(s) to be considered.

    The second option would incline one to try and understand and evaluate the story-teller along with his/her story, rather than just the content of the story. But perhaps my understanding of that inclination is an introduction of my understanding only.

    I'm quite happy my suggestion has entertained you, and thank you for the most thoughtful reply. I must confess that I read over your criteria without reading as much meaning into the details as I could have.

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    Quote Originally posted by Contact Point View Post
    I'm not vetting anyone. This is your forum. I want to do a private research project on a different site.

    This thread was started by another member and I responded. No one said they would tell you what to do. It might help the forum atmosphere if you weren't so overbearing and patriarchal with your decisions. You bill this site as a fresh alternative to Avalon, but the rules are heavy handed and strict. Threads get locked, and members banned way too easily.
    Note: I also recommended this be done on a different site - perhaps as many other industries have... a watchdog site. In fact, it is so obviously clear this industry of "alternative media" absolutely needs one. It would need to be as fair and unbiased as humanly possible.

    I also want to make it clear I understand TOT is not the place for this and would not be compatible with the environment wanted for TOT. I earlier suggested a sister site but its clear that would be still too close to home.
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    Note: I also recommended this be done on a different site - perhaps as many other industries have... a watchdog site. In fact, it is so obviously clear this industry of "alternative media" absolutely needs one. It would need to be as fair and unbiased as humanly possible.

    I also want to make it clear I understand TOT is not the place for this and would not be compatible with the environment wanted for TOT. I earlier suggested a sister site but its clear that would be still too close to home.
    Thanks for your PM, I'll get back to you in a few days. I already set up the site...

    It would help a lot if:

    1) The staff set up a suggestions and comments thread so we could interact with them openly, instead of PMs and on multiple threads.
    2) TOT had a clear "other forums" policy. Can we link to another Reddit openly here? Linking to other forums is considered out of order on some boards. I understand why. For now I'll just say that I recommend Malc + co open up a sister/mirror site on Reddit, because Reddit is a lot of fun. We could all interconnect our various subreddits. Just an idea. Reddit brings a much larger audience. It's an amazing site, and cuts your bandwidth bills to zero. It also has a downvote feature which cuts out 80 per cent of "moderation issues." - There could even be TOT subreddits focused on specialist subjects like bamboo housing etc. I know that I'm going to be setting up something like that soon, when I get time. I think the disclosure world is big enough for all of us and we all have a specific role to play. Posts on Bamboo housing have an immense effect on the timeline. More than anyone could imagine. You are literally sending out a vote into the universe and asking it to help you weave that line.... I have limited time in a day, so there's no way I could cover a subject like that in depth. Just an idea.

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    In general, we will keep the watchdog links out of here as I don't want to keep making staff uncomfortable. There's a huge disclosure world out there.

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    Quote Originally posted by Contact Point View Post
    It would help a lot if:

    1) The staff set up a suggestions and comments thread so we could interact with them openly, instead of PMs and on multiple threads.
    We already have a place for that, here.

    Quote Originally posted by Contact Point View Post
    [...]
    For now I'll just say that I recommend Malc + co open up a sister/mirror site on Reddit, because Reddit is a lot of fun. We could all interconnect our various subreddits. Just an idea. Reddit brings a much larger audience. It's an amazing site, and cuts your bandwidth bills to zero. It also has a downvote feature which cuts out 80 per cent of "moderation issues." - There could even be TOT subreddits focused on specialist subjects like bamboo housing etc. I know that I'm going to be setting up something like that soon, when I get time. I think the disclosure world is big enough for all of us and we all have a specific role to play. Posts on Bamboo housing have an immense effect on the timeline. More than anyone could imagine. You are literally sending out a vote into the universe and asking it to help you weave that line.... I have limited time in a day, so there's no way I could cover a subject like that in depth. Just an idea.
    After careful consideration of the above suggestion, the staff of The One Truth feels that the image here-below best represents our consensus.



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    OK, thanks for the answer, Aragorn... People PM'd me, so we will just do things on emails. I just wanted to be upfront with you about my plans...

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    Quote Originally posted by Contact Point View Post
    Short version: If anyone wants to work on a research project chronicling David Wilcock + others track record, please PM me. As this thread is making the mods uncomfortable, I won't say anything else.
    I am specifically interested in Dr Pete Peterson. Do you know if Mr David Wilcock still has contact, if there is more information about the good doctor?

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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    Contact Point,

    Maybe a second way of rating sources can be based on how accurate they were in past predictions they had made. For example if someone says x will happen in or by 2017, but it doesn't, then that's 0 for 1.

    To judge the criteria Sam lists on the OP would require subjective rating and so is not really objective by rigorous standards. How can you give a rating for the amount of defensiveness or manipulative language? Something more straightforward would have to be rated in order to be more objective.
    I thought about the subjectivity aspect and here's my opinion.

    If a "watchdog sight" provided both objectively achieved ratings (with backup)along with subjective assessments... and in time those subjective assessments proved largely accurate, then the watchdog could be more and more trusted and everyone would win but the frauds who's relevancy lifespans are dramatically reduced.

    In addition... regarding the category "experiencers," it should be pointed out that just about all the content produced by "experiencers" (and I mean like over 99%) is all subjective. So certainly if the experiencer is expecting folks to "buy" what they are "selling" then the public should be able to hear subjective opinions about the "experiencer" - especially if the one providing the subjective opinion develops a reputation for accuracy and for remaining unbiased.

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    Quote Originally posted by Contact Point View Post
    Well said. They are flailing... There's another subtle issue/method they use, I call it the Chicken Feed Rear-Guard tactic. Or "Riding the line"...
    Is that like when one of the circular vetted/verifiers has a conflicting opinion as to another within "the club" and that finally one of the club members "gives in" by say things like..."I finally allowed myself to be convinced that alien group A is actually alien group B?" I saw that one a day or so ago and realized another aspect to "the game." One finally "gives in" to another's story so that they close the discrepancy gap so that their circular activities tighten like a fortress... well, a prison for the vulnerable.
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