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    Jim Self’s idea of time.

    Jim Self has a book out called “What Do You Mean the Third Dimension is Going Away?”
    Here is an extract showing his idea of time:

    So what is the 3rd Dimension?
    The third dimension (3D) is a box of rigid beliefs, more or less, with a relatively inflexible set of rules and limitations. Most of us have been playing this game for lifetimes, so we tend to think it is the only game available to us. But nothing could be further from the truth. One of the rigid 3D beliefs that structure our lives – our thinking and feeling and actions - is linear time.

    Linear time is an optional belief and structure that lets us “live” an experience of past and a future... and then we die. Because this belief is the default assumption of mass 3D consciousness, and events seem to validate the belief, most of us think and act as if it’s true.

    But now we are all waking up from the illusion of this ubiquitous belief. And as you become more conscious, you realize that time in 3D is actually a time loop. What you experience in “the past” is pretty much what you put your attention on now, and you project that reality into “the future,” and therefore you experience it over and over again.
    So the structure of time is quite specific (and limiting) in the 3rd dimension, but your experience of time is quite different (and empowering) as you move into higher dimensions.

    Everything in a 3D consciousness is also very conditional. The concept of, for example, ‘unconditional love,’ does not exist in the 3rd dimension. If you experience ‘unconditional love’ or ‘unconditional peace’ you have actually moved into a fourth dimensional (4D) consciousness.

    You see, in the earth experience now, we have access to both 3rd and 4th dimensional consciousness, but most of us rarely step out of the well-grooved habits of 3D thinking and feeling.
    The 3rd dimension also offers no possibility of choice. We don’t choose our thoughts, feelings, and actions in every moment (that’s a skill of 4D and 5D), instead we react from unconscious beliefs and training to the people and situations that pop up in our space.
    He also has a website where he has 8 free lessons that I have used to clear myself and get a heck of a lot quieter allowing for better meditation and reaching the quiet spaces!


    Quoting from his website … 8-Part Series with Jim Self

    More and more of us are now stepping up to our roles as the Shift accelerates. We offer you some very simple, yet powerful, tools and skills that will help you enjoy and flow with this amazing transition. Make these important times easier on yourself and your sanity.
    This series is for those who are now becoming more conscious and curious and are asking for more.
    All eight introductory videos have been posted to YouTube to listen to the recordings from all eight parts, go to https://masteringalchemy.com/content...ift-and-beyond


    Interestingly he uses a rose as a tool to clear you of unwanted energy. He describes the “Rose” as:
    A rose is a symbol, an image, and it is energized, especially, it comes from the feminine side of the creator. It’s a gift. It has a higher faster vibration frequency, in physical terms, than any other living organic substance on the Earth.
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    All fascinating. Thanks Joanna. Hard to know where to begin with a comment (the subject feels so vast to me) but it reminds me about hearing that the ancient Egyptians believed the mind was in the heart, not in the brain... The ancient Egyptians were probably rather 4D or 5D oriented, so it makes sense that they would have figured this out already.

    I like the idea-concept of spirals. Forever in my life when I have made "doodles" in the margins of papers (sitting, daydreaming, drawing while in a phone conversation) I have doodled spirals. All over. Spirals. Just in the last year or so I have figured out how and why spirals seem to be so important...!!....

    The Galactic Central Sun is evidently two suns that rotate around each other... a spiral!....in other words, a giant goddess.

    Thank you Joanna for a very interesting thread that deserves to keep going...
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    Hi citsym, thanks for posting Jim Self on 'time' and 3D. Nodding as I read his words, wow....also what he says about unconditional love; if/when you're feeling (and perceiving/acting) from unconditional love, you're in 4-5D (at least) rather than 3D, which is inherently conditional.
    I would say, the more heavily or intensely polarized people's experience/view in 3D is, the more conditional their thoughts. Every dimension has many many sub-bands within it, 3D included. In a higher frequency strata of 3D, energies of kindness and empathy are felt, whereas in the slower/lower bands, people are deep in the zone of 'eat or be eaten, 'survival of the fittest' and so on.

    I love what Jim Self says about the Rose, having 'a higher vibration frequency, in physical terms, than any other living organic substance on Earth.'
    Flowers are the pinnacles of a plant's consciousness; so you have a bush that has covered itself in spikes (ie; shielding itself, in the lowest survival band of 3D) that puts out a bloom in the highest frequencies of the Life template, the Golden Ratio spiral, into form....and humans cultivate and prize them, and give them as tokens of love, all over the world, because subconsciously we feel the upliftment, they get our hearts vibrating at a higher rate, instantly in their presence. This upliftment pervades all senses, including the sense of smell. Just smelling a rose can lift your vibration, if you're open to it...

    The Rose is also connected to Venus, and Venus is connected to Earth/Gaia vibrationally, in terms of the 5D template. Indeed, from an Earth view, Venus's orbit makes a five-petalled 'rose spiral' every five years.....



    Thanks so much for sharing.

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    Quote Originally posted by Joanna View Post
    Hi citsym, thanks for posting Jim Self on 'time' and 3D. Nodding as I read his words, wow....also what he says about unconditional love; if/when you're feeling (and perceiving/acting) from unconditional love, you're in 4-5D (at least) rather than 3D, which is inherently conditional.
    I would say, the more heavily or intensely polarized people's experience/view in 3D is, the more conditional their thoughts. Every dimension has many many sub-bands within it, 3D included. In a higher frequency strata of 3D, energies of kindness and empathy are felt, whereas in the slower/lower bands, people are deep in the zone of 'eat or be eaten, 'survival of the fittest' and so on.

    I love what Jim Self says about the Rose, having 'a higher vibration frequency, in physical terms, than any other living organic substance on Earth.'
    Flowers are the pinnacles of a plant's consciousness; so you have a bush that has covered itself in spikes (ie; shielding itself, in the lowest survival band of 3D) that puts out a bloom in the highest frequencies of the Life template, the Golden Ratio spiral, into form....and humans cultivate and prize them, and give them as tokens of love, all over the world, because subconsciously we feel the upliftment, they get our hearts vibrating at a higher rate, instantly in their presence. This upliftment pervades all senses, including the sense of smell. Just smelling a rose can lift your vibration, if you're open to it...

    The Rose is also connected to Venus, and Venus is connected to Earth/Gaia vibrationally, in terms of the 5D template. Indeed, from an Earth view, Venus's orbit makes a five-petalled 'rose spiral' every five years.....



    Thanks so much for sharing.
    Thanks Joanna, You share some really interesting knowledge.. I'm enjoying the information.

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    Quote Originally posted by Gretchen View Post
    All fascinating. Thanks Joanna. Hard to know where to begin with a comment (the subject feels so vast to me) but it reminds me about hearing that the ancient Egyptians believed the mind was in the heart, not in the brain... The ancient Egyptians were probably rather 4D or 5D oriented, so it makes sense that they would have figured this out already.
    Hi Gretchen, glad you're enjoying this. You're spot on about the ancient Egyptians. They weren't the only ancient culture to know our mind and soul are centered in the heart. This knowledge came out of Atlantis into Egypt and other areas, and for a while (several thousand years) there were indeed 5D people walking in a 4D, then 3D world, and they lived in and through the heart (these were the remnants of what was termed the 'light priesthood' of Atlantis). The Egyptians called the Heart the 'IB', and perceived that it had 42 channels of energies radiating out from it, throughout the physical and etheric bodies, and their ancient healing forms worked with that energy system. As Egypt fell into a 3D vibe, that understanding became distorted, and the culture became focused on death>afterlife in a cult-like way. This is true of other ancient cultures too, as the global collective frequency dropped, and the heart way was lost or forgotten except by a few, here and there.

    Now we have groups like the HeartMath Institute measuring the electromagnetic output of the human body, and finding that by far the largest electromagnetic field is produced by the heart, not the brain. Also, neuronal cells have been found in heart tissue...and in other body organs, like the lining of the stomach. So when someone says, they think with their stomach, it's actually true, lol! 'Mind' exists throughout the body, every cell is intelligent, and more than that, knows itself as Love, if the energy is not cut off or diverted.
    I've seen the pineal chakra referred to a few times lately as the 'seat of the soul'. In truth, the heart is the seat of the soul, as the ancients knew well, and people like Drunvalo Melchisedek are bringing back that consciousness (or remembering). We know it instinctively anyway: if you were introducing yourself to someone, 'Hi, my name is Gretchen', and you used a hand gesture to point to yourself while you said it, would you point to your head or your heart? Haha. We salute from the head, but identify from the heart.

    When people 'seat their soul' in their head, they tend to get a bit 'top heavy', and also their psychic viewing has no 'truth anchor', and picks up on everything without deep understanding, a big jumble of projections on the screen of the 3-4D membrane. If they seat their consciousness in the lower chakras (often in the desire to 'ground' or 'earth' themselves) they tend to stagnate. From my Twin: 'As above, so below, through the centre is the flow.'

    The IB is....maybe that's why the Egyptians saw the 'ibis' as a sacred bird...and Thoth as a master of Time.....

    One thing I find, is that when my alignment with/in higher frequencies is strongest and clearest, time and numbers arrange into vibrational sequences and 'flow'. For example, this morning when I drove into the carport after dropping my son to school, on the dashboard was the sequence 10C at 10:10am...10:10:10.....and when I sat down and opened this thread, I glanced at the time and it was 11:33, then I looked at the temperature and it was 11C at 11:33. Haha.....the magic is on. Time is not linear, unless we subscribe to that belief....it converges around us as hubs, focus points, according to our vibrational output and 'magnetism'.

    Here's this morning's screenshot...

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    X 3 u 2 lol , God is number, number is god, God is all, is something similar to that in the holy Koran.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    X 3 u 2 lol , God is number, number is god, God is all, is something similar to that in the holy Koran.
    Haha, Aianawa. Yes, the principle is understood in religions and metaphysical philosophies, that God/Source creates through number...

    From star family: '....4 U 2, we 1 the Way....'


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    Hello Cearna, to clarify what you asked jimmer: "How then will you know whether 3D is linear and 4D is spherical, Jimmer?"

    It is not that 3D is linear or 4D circular/spherical, or 5D spiral hypercube etc, but that we tend to experience frequency bands we are focused into in certain ways...and collectively, humanity has a belief that 3D is linear (past>present>future), and when we can observe this from a 4D view, for instance (such as the text from Jim Self quoted in this thread by citsym), then we see that by subconscious programmes of attachment to the 'past', it is continuously being projected forward as the future, in an endless loop, in finite portions (lifetimes).
    In the zero point, the house of the Source spark, that 'programme' of the line and loop is not relevant; this world already exists in higher dimensions, that reality exists Now, beyond the grasp of the intellect, but can be stepped into with pure alignment to Source through the heart/soul, and anchored through our beings in this Now....which them transforms our 'reality'....

    Star family who are stationed here showed their ship when it is slowed down in frequency to 4D, as a series of concentric rings radiating from a central 'hub' (see photo below). They also showed that whichever 'side' you view it from, it always looks the same, so from underneath, or the side, or on top, it is always this series of rings ie; there is no top, bottom, sides etc. They were showing me how space works in 4D, in tesseract forms, and how lightships open Time (and space) concentrically, not linearly. The planet Saturn, in its 3D octave, represents the locked Wheel of Time, the wheel of karma. In higher frequencies, the wheel is unlocked, because the flow of Source is not truncated/limited into 2-3D perspectives....


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    [QUOTE=Joanna;841927427]Hello Cearna, to clarify what you asked jimmer: "How then will you know whether 3D is linear and 4D is spherical, Jimmer?"

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    t is not that 3D is linear or 4D circular/spherical, or 5D spiral hypercube etc, but that we tend to experience frequency bands we are focused into in certain ways...and collectively, humanity has a belief that 3D is linear (past>present>future), and when we can observe this from a 4D view, for instance (such as the text from Jim Self quoted in this thread by citsym), then we see that by subconscious programmes of attachment to the 'past', it is continuously being projected forward as the future, in an endless loop, in finite portions (lifetimes).
    In the zero point, the house of the Source spark, that 'programme' of the line and loop is not relevant; this world already exists in higher dimensions, that reality exists Now, beyond the grasp of the intellect, but can be stepped into with pure alignment to Source through the heart/soul, and anchored through our beings in this Now....which them transforms our 'reality'....

    I guess we begin to not understand each other here.

    You see, I am in open in the start of a New Age, not a time shift , as it were, because all of Time, is in our world, no other Time exists as we have it in our world, for the powers of everlasting Life, meant this to be all that ever was or will be. Their solid foundation, existed to put positive Light, into something that had no Light before, and was never to work as a world, within others, within others again.

    We began as one only world, a rock on which a Life form existed. Now who stops life ever since, was a creature that came in from outside this planet of rocks, who insisted they owned rocks too (both male and female). The female lived in the role of a matriarch, and ropes of hers stopped life on Earth, as far as spirit was concerned, she began to operate an opposing endlessness, to the world of Earth.

    This one really lived in a shadow world, of giving to herself alone, rather than some one giving to others, and so her world existed to take and this correlates to the physics of Light whereby if you add pigments of the three primary colours in pigments, and add them till they are in complete balance, then the central colour is black, because each colour subtracts from the others until no light exists except the black of the central colour - called subtractive colour. In the event of the same thing being done, with the three primary colours then the colour in the centre becomes white Light, because each adds to the other or additive Light. Hence we then use this as our basis for the opposition of Light and dark, good/evil.

    How then does this fit into time and the difference between linear time and the supposed other sorts of time in which you speak – well -
    In solid time, you are not to know what's in use, unless your mind tries to make sense of it, all likeness to now time, we infer from the orbit of the sun, and our relationship to this, so, time then is no more time then, than it is solid or spherical, or whatever some one has told you is something to clear out, or something is to gamble is what 3d is or 4d is. It is a state of mind. We make it fit our needs, and from far back, it fitted the seasons, because we could measure it by a constant.

    However, what the first thing we notice, if you begin to follow astrology, is that there are orbital changes which take place, over strong lengths of time, thus we began in the time of Libra, having pride of place in the sky, and we have just crossed into Aquarius having pride of place in the sky. You may also, during the lead up to 2012, have seen videos or lectures on how we are now in a completely different part of this Universe, in fact it takes roughly 26,000 years to traverse this Universe from this spot, until we return later 26,000 years from now.

    This has to mean that belief in what was real in the sky, 2000 years ago, no longer is true, so what was considered linear time, is no more something to believe in, than you trying to make life into various dimensions or densities, it is just someone else trying to make sense of a mystical sense of endlessness, and putting science behind it to make it into sense to themselves.

    The changes taking place is that the Earth began in one position in the Universe, then in rolled God Sources and created what they needed to, then this other female, decided to tow Earth to another place, because she insisted it was hers and it she was now going to put it where she wanted to have it, but Earth knows where she is supposed to be, so she wanders in and out of these other systems, to get to where she originally belonged, and she found it last year, so we enter a wholeness never known to anyone other than the 20 Source gods, and they are intent to get her back into Light reality, instead of the shadow reality of the other female.

    So, no such, dimensional changes or densities or times, other than what began in.

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    the ancient Egyptians believed the mind was in the heart, not in the brain... The ancient Egyptians were probably rather 4D or 5D oriented, so it makes sense that they would have figured this out already.
    Gretchen

    To my knowledge,(from Ivan), the clearest story that had little to do with the heart itself, came from the first guests to Earth, the Danaan. Their social system told of getting to guilt free status, via belief in the first Light of all Lights, who steps into yourself and brings muddiness out of you and brings purity to your heart. Now in describing the heart, it was not the physical organ, it was Soul recognition of Self. This works in the first pleasuring you get in Right of Passage, into, not the underworld, but your first glimpse of giving your Self Hood, it's place within the finite existence of all that is.

    This was talked about in a Seminar I attended for astrologers in Sydney, when a clairvoyant spoke on the Pilgrims Way, which began in Bethlehem, and took over the lives of the European Christians, who stand on a cross to begin and then pray to find their place in endless time, they went to various Cathedrals, ending in Scotland, each one used spirals, for to follow such as this, moving on your knees would live in your mind, for your mind says that all links to Salvation comes into you from suffering the benediction of Christ.

    This lecturer went into a lot of details about the first knowledge of your place in readiness to be able to return back to your place in the evermore. The priests of Egypt knew how to take those going through the Right of passage to give them their own place within the whole. This was in a form of Initiation, which Druids also knew of. These were the most essential in being able to go back to your own place. The Egyptian priests, later on during the time of the Ptolomes, lost the full knowledge of how to do the Initiation correctly, and began to lose many of those they took into this other Realm and lost people to death, so they gave up the rights, that were so important to them all. However, the stone masons of way back in time did know these rights and passed them down through time to the Stone Masons guild, until the Illuminate wanted to join and learn the Rights. They could not prevent the joining of these solid citizens, but they would not hand over the proper method of doing the Initiations, so for the most part this knowledge has been lost except to a few.

    Once these top life individuals began to infiltrate the mass meetings, the rituals of real links to this your place in the everlasting, then it became something you had to find for yourself. People began to head to find out the answer and became overly trusting in the first other writings, from really far back and so we find heart and mind becoming one in the minds of the many seekers, when it should be to connect to your power spot, which is the first thing Ivan taught me, and I've given you how to do this in the channellings threads.

    The mind is not in the brain, it is a separate topping above the pineal gland, which is large or small, not from your consciousness, which only exists to clear your mind of extraneous matter, but opening your mind will allow your mind to expand so keep telling yourself "I now open up". The heart itself responds enormously to fear or non-fear, but it touches Soul life, for your Soul covers your entire body, but is held in position bya link to it from the heart.

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    Marking this thread for further reading and study.

    A lot to take in.

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    Hi Joanna,
    This thread is really engaging my attention. Thanks.

    Two things this week...one is that I watched the SyFy "Childhood's End" series. I am a big fan of science fiction and had read the story before a long time ago. I don't want to overstate the plot as some may want to see it fresh. The plot does deal with "time". The story is about what happens when utopia "happens":

    If everything is held within the collective mind, the linear experience we appreciate is just arranging how the unfolding occurs. So for instance, being "outside" time or "inside" time is a perspective. Another theme is that there are conditions which block "having" the necessary experience for an unfolding to take place.

    In this story, humans are given "time" in reality for a necessary unfolding of experience. This utopia takes care of the usual suspects that steal our time: issues of commerce: shelter, transport, clothing, food and a bit of leisure (Neil Kramer)

    In the story Childhoods End, some people have an idea that the value in commerce and the world of busy-ness of survival feels "lost". There is a shown belief that the stress of our survival challenged lives stimulates creativity and means being human. The kind of beings we feel attached to being are thwarted by "the Overlords". Maybe this business of life and the unfolding of timeless possibility of an unknown cannot thrive in the same space?

    We have definitely carved up reality into blocks of space based on "this/that", "right/wrong" and "I like this/not that". IMO we have projected this split onto a grand scheme of duel-ing (dual-ing) forces. The swing back and forth of a pendulum scheme is so much bigger than any one "time" of this and that we evidence. It has to do with the very splitting itself as human minds project. It does not progress but just swings as polarization of experience IMO.

    And the question for me becomes what in my "head space" am I willing to release to leave room to unfold to a new condition of mind?
    And another question, can I as an "adult" change this much attachment to my "time/space" sense of what "is true".
    And another, are there premonitions of the "teleological" goal of a larger consciousness (call it the Force?) beyond all time and space that may intrude in my "spacetime"? How do these messages appear to me and do they cause me to contract in fear?

    I am thinking about my projections onto "reality" of good and evil. I know what I prefer but I do not know the full picture.

    Q: How is Ducktape like the Force? A: It has a Dark Side, a Light side and it binds the galaxy together.

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    The Universe sometimes responds with dramas and movies, blogs and articles, videos and other people as information to consider.

    I came across Jon Rappaports blog of the 16thStar Wars, ancient Tibet, and Jedi training. He suggests that much like other intruding "premonitions" that humans have had about the conditions for unfolding (and that are fearful when one fears change), there is a collective "idea" that is entertained by Star War's look at Jedi Training. The potential is there in us but we manifest its expression through exercise.....

    One trains to be able to use the potentials of the future by training in "timelessness", and we might appreciate timelessness by taking a view that we are not that important in the BIG Picture. There is a reaction that we may have to knowing how brief is the value of this "time" we share. It might be rage that wants to blow up what we cannot "keep"as ours?

    This is what is funny because no matter how beautiful and how detailed we make a sand painting, a stiff breeze will blow it away.

    We can definitely learn form the Buddhists psychology...in fact they may have brought timelessness to this time (hehe)??

    The themes in conversations I am hearing between known people, tales like Childhoods End and Star Wars stories are deep ones. The collective human concerns like "what has value now?", "what does it mean to be human?", "what do attachments I hold and make conditions of define for my life vision?"

    The present is full of synchronicity of whatever I am exploring......all this might be form the Source and its "premonitions of future past" IMO!!! Thanks, maggie

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    Quote Originally posted by Maggie View Post

    The present is full of synchronicity of whatever I am exploring......all this might be form the Source and its "premonitions of future past" IMO!!! Thanks, maggie
    I am thinking about the flow of "time" as a stream with a sense of direction we call the future.
    But what I think about more is Timing in the present.

    What I mean by timing is a sense of polarity rightness or wrongness of our "place in time".
    Do we seem to arrive at moments with the confidence of "This is right the time and I am in my right place"?

    My timing has felt very off.
    What I am observing is that the awkwardness of seeming out of synch is the most excruciating feeling.
    This pervasive sense of awkwardness, clumsy, inadvertant and out of line timing is a WTF of my life.

    Does anyone know what I mean? But sometimes I do know the rightness and the flow is available any time......

    So tonight I thought of a poem

    and the last lines are:

    all hatred driven hence,
    The soul recovers radical innocence
    And learns at last that it is self-delighting,
    Self-appeasing, self-affrighting,
    And that its own sweet will is Heaven’s will;
    She can, though every face should scowl
    And every windy quarter howl
    Or every bellows burst, be happy still.

    And may her bridegroom bring her to a house
    Where all’s accustomed, ceremonious;
    For arrogance and hatred are the wares
    Peddled in the thoroughfares.
    How but in custom and in ceremony
    Are innocence and beauty born?
    Ceremony’s a name for the rich horn,
    And custom for the spreading laurel tree.
    A Prayer for my Daughter
    W. B. Yeats, 1865 - 1939
    My other post was that we may have no clue of the Timing of the vast Universe of which we are a Particle riding a wave.
    But we "know" a little piece of Our Time. We are In Time and what if we are always arriving Juts In Time, In Time.

    What IS that awkwardness in the collective experience: to feel quite "off" on some tangent that others just cannot understand?
    So in that poem, I appreciated the "custom" and "ceremony" where one can participate as one knows the dance.

    In timing, we can flow with the seasons: make time count, carve sacred momentary celebrations just for us.
    I am grateful for the TIMING (awkward or not) of experiences I have been gifted.I sense the mystery of a greater sphere of Timing.
    I do Often have the knowing that I do not need to KNOW what the Divine Creator sense of timing could be.
    I do need my own Time.....
    When I take the "time" in my own home to have meaningful customs and ceremony, lighting a candle for example or taking a healing bath, cooking, cleaning what needs it, I feel the rich flame of being Connected. This is so ordinary that I once missed it all together...that this is showing my Smooth moves in my life.

    Much appreciation for the thread. Maggie
    I crave that sense of connection more than food.

    On Pandora is this song. It's reminding me that my "life is here" now.
    Don't forget to breathe.

    "Breathe"

    In the quiet of a shadow
    In the corner of a room
    Darkness moves upon you
    Like a cloud across the moon

    You're aware in all the silence
    Of a constant that will turn
    Like the windmill left deserted
    Or the sun forever burn

    So don't forget to breathe
    Don't forget to breathe
    Your whole life is here
    No eleventh hour reprieve
    So don't forget to breathe

    Keep your head above water
    But don't forget to breathe

    And all the suffering that you've witnessed
    And the hand prints on the wall
    They remind you how it's endless
    How endlessly you fall

    Then the answer that you're seeking
    For the question that you found
    Drives you further to confusion
    As you lose your sense of ground

    So don't forget to breathe
    Don't forget to breathe
    Your whole life is here
    No eleventh hour reprieve
    So don't forget to breathe

    Keep your head above water
    But don't forget to breathe

    Breathe...

    Don't forget to breathe
    Don't forget to breathe
    You know you are here
    But you find you want to leave
    So don't forget to... breathe

    Just breathe...
    Just breathe...
    Just breathe...
    Just breathe...
    Just breathe...

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_naIQOVUaM
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    Maggie, thank you for your thoughtful replies, much appreciated, and I'm glad you're enjoying this thread.
    Looking back on it now, I could have defined the title a bit more, as 'Are you ready to go beyond linear time?' Or, are you prepared to expand the way you relate to time, moving your viewing point (and experience) beyond the 3D linear time 'entrainment/attachment programme' into a more flexible, more creative, multi-facetted approach? Your example of the Buddhist concept of timelessness is a beautiful instance, I feel, of what could be called 'being in time, yet not of time'...that we are not ultimately a 'child of time' but a child of timelessness....expressing 'at present' through a form having a time-space experience.
    Hence the Buddhist non-attachment to form, putting their focus on the energy expressing through forms (chi, and the Jedi's Force). Some other ancient cultures focused on the consciousness moving and shaping the energy into forms...and in both the energy (spirit energy, soul energy, prana, chi) was/is understood and felt as a continuum, infinite and eternal, that could be directed (by however they perceived divine life-creator) to animate forms that translate within linear time/timelines as transient.

    What interests me is expanding ways of relating to time, to loosen the grip of the 3D frame of reference, which is contingent on - and limited to - movement through time-space. Linear time is actually 1D - series of points arranging into strings (time lines), and 2D is a flat plane, the extension of the line in multiple directions. Then 3D is the cube (or any 'object' with spatial volume), wherein time lines are encompassed, but do not define the space itself. Why I say 3D is contingent on movement through time-space is because in the realm of 3D seemingly solid forms, we have to walk around a house, for example to see the other side, or turn a Rubick's Cube around in our hand to see the 'far side' or bottom of the cube, via actions in time, that are sequential. So our perception is attached to movements in time-space.
    To get in touch with the next 'dimension' of seeing/experiencing, 4D, the hypercube (cube within a cube) state, imagine being able to see the whole Rubick's Cube, every face of it, all at once - as well as the inside - because in 4D, volume is transparent and Time is simultaneous. Do you feel what I mean here? From 3D viewing-experiencing, if you focus on the Rubick's Cube in your hand, it's impossible to also view the back of the chair you're sitting on, or watch the TV off to one side. But from 4D viewing-experiencing, whenever you're focused on one point, because your experience and viewing is all simultaneous in terms of your 'local' time-space, all those elements are visible to you, tangibly so. 5D unwraps the 4D hypercube and expands it infinitely - but for the purposes of speaking about time, timelines and synchronicity, it's enough to look at 4D (and through it), in my view.
    This is holographic viewing-experiencing, and from that point of view, fixing reality and 'outcomes' to 'timelines' is meaningless, and simply pulls the view back into 3D or more precisely, into 1D, the line, with a past, present and future strung along that line. Viewing from 4D, through the hologram simultaneously, reveals synchronicities as convergences, or 'magnetism' of energies to a focal point (you/I) that is emitting specific frequencies to which like frequencies are responding, simultaneously....beyond time and space. When you resonate with something, you are connecting with the energy of that thing/person/place/event/idea, and the deeper, higher, more passionate, the feeling of resonance, the more strongly it builds connection....the more the 'normal sequencing' we are conditioned to expect in 3D dissolves....and the less hold it has on our experience and psyche...
    I am speaking in a simplistic way of 'dimensions' here, for want of being able to describe what I perceive in 3D language....but it can be experienced by anyone, through zero dimension, the zeropoint, which is the focus point of us, existing in all dimensions and their many sub-bands, which can always be reached within our metaphysical heart - what ancient mystics described as 'the tiny cave' within the heart. Love opens doors.

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