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[Dreamtimer]

In my experience, people who wield power over others end up having to do a lot of rationalization to justify what they do. Slave owners, for example, do this to the point of near insanity. The southerners here fought for the "freedom" to have slaves. Talk about turning something inside out and upside down. Slavery is freedom? This has no part of common sense, natural law, goodness, or humanity. People who actually believe that owning others is good are a very small minority. That reality speaks for itself. When you look into the history of the south in terms of peoples' diaries and letters there is much shame and worry and prayer over the sin of slavery. It wasn't just considered a 'cultural norm'.

Most humans have a natural sense of what goodness and freedom are and don't need to have it explained to them.

As we all know, power corrupts. And so, all over the world, we have seen men who become king and proclaim themselves God. They believe it, many of the people believe it, but he's clearly a man. The 'opinions' don't change reality. And people who can see the truth of the king's humanity and speak it get killed. Take a look at the irrational behavior around the world of people who have a great deal of power over others. It's not just a different choice.

A mon avis.

[Tanta]

Slavery was widespread in history. Far more than just US. It is somewhat limiting to draw conclusions only from that time.

The minority you speak of or lets say, the "unadjusted" ?? are estimated to be at about a 3rd or 1/3. It is a statistical number. So weather it is a community, company, town , country, planet... a 3rd of population will have a "hard time coping with the rest". This 3rd however does not sit back and just watch, they tend to take action and the other 2/3 follow.

I am not sure you fully understood the discussion so far. When i spoke of choice i spoke of individual deciding on how to act. If individual decides to speak against the king it does so. Him/her getting killed for doing that is another matter (and yes, the king also made a choice).

You, He, She, They, We, Us, Me....do so...because we, they CHOSE TO.

[Dreamtimer]

Choice is paramount. We choose, we act, we live. And there are consequences. Those in slavery clearly are very limited in what they can choose. Shall I suffer in my chains or shall I suffer more under the whip? Or shall I suffer death?

What motivates people to choose to control others? What motivates people to close their minds and only listen to one faction? Or one source of information?

In my opinion it's fear. Choices made that are motivated by fear (or other very strong emotions) are quite often irrational.

[Tanta]

I want to address another issue here, tied to the first post in this thread.

I want to talk about the "evil system" and rant about humanity.

I will begin with a "controversial" statement: big chunk of alternative truth movement is a subtle proponent of the victim mentality.


Basically you get to be told how bad "in reality" things are and how the system has everyone in it's grasp. Then you are being served an elaborate story (or multiple of them) with many plots, players and no end in sight. Follows a solution - hope, with price attached. And all those who "buy" it, well...they buy it. Till the next episode of never ending saga. Will the entire system collapse today, will someone somehow manage to delay the inevitable? How long has it been collapsing? Since 2006? Longer?

Do you all truly believe the current state of events are as such due to the bad bad system, which made us all be like that, do it like that, having it like this...? A pint of fluoride in the water and everyone is a docile goner? Cry not, o brave one, they drank the fluoride, it was all for naught!
But before you go i have this ground breaking detoxification sleepers for you. All you do is put them on, sit down, watch some of my other videos and by the end of the week you will be good enough to read my next update.

They taught me wrong in school, some say. I do not know the right history! (not that many actually care for or recall the wrong one) They keep the advanced science away from me! (not that many actually care to comprehend the non advanced one) They force me into what to think, not how to think! (all your life?)

They hide the advance technology to keep us enslaved! (so you want another gadget to fiddle with all day log or maybe some other device to improve your comfort, while having no personal contribution to it's existence, not caring at all at how it is made or why...) I need me a new toy, just takes some coltan - go mine that shiet for me u 3rd worlder...

We are being enslaved by the system!! (we who? you speak for others?)

I deserve to know the truth! (do you really? what exactly entitles you to that?)


Reality is, human animal sucks and it does so BIG TIME, ALL THE TIME.

The sad state of events isn't/aren't here because some countries fluoridate water, it is also not here because the TV makes us do it or since we were never "properly" educated. I am NOT saying byproduct of aluminum manufacturing in the water is a good thing! I am also not a fan of TV and i could not disagree more with the school system.

What i wish to say is that people are not as nearly as trapped as the truth movement suggests. Neither the situation is as helpless as the underlying message of oh so many hopeful stories. People are selfish and ignorant. Stupid? Yes from a philosophical view point they are. They however are not stupid because of fluoride, schooling, TV, "microwave mind control" or due to the genetic predispositions in our DNA created eons ago by Enki or was it Enlil...

Being distracted by the entertainment industry does not disable you. Is is not an inability to act. It is however a handy excuse. Them slackers don't see what is going on in this world because of TV reality shows! Really? Poor people being forced? to sit in front of a TV watching reality shows. What a horror.

Truth is - people don't care.

Is financial collapse a bad thing for them? Yes it is, it can endanger the tenderness of their ass pillows. No more soft landings!!
Is financial system a fraud, a scam, a casino, a ponzi scheme for them? Yes it is! As far as people are concerned..well..they need more money. GIEF MORE MONEH pl0x pl0x pl0x... A mega yacht for everyone! PARTY!!
Is the lack of education a problem? Well it must be, i mean, why bother thinking if you can blame the education for being "unable to".



The undeserving great unwashed? How about - the psychopath next door? A bit of a leap...today's society in general is highly narcissistic. Esp the 1st world. No the western society is not in a survival mode. If you want to see survival mode visit and stay in Africa outside of the tourist resorts. Narcissism, especially in men, is pathological. Narcissist men are what one could call - *service to self or unsound and tend to have sadistic approach to women. Those more capable also excel at "getting things done" thus you tend to find them in the places of power.

*(i chose "service to self" term since most here are familiar with it)

One could now argue that the entire system is bent on creating service to self society where the "looming financial collapse" is ever approaching and mass arrests are just around the corner, any minute now!! While in part i could agree with society being steered in a specific direction, it still does not excuse people from not taking responsibility.

A plague lies upon this world, it is deeply rooted and affects even those not touched by it. The plague goes under a common name - religion or organized religion. Religion does many things, most devastating of them being the inception of a need to be saved. A messiah (quite some people today with this complex). Messiah or well someone who will do all the work and take all the responsibility for it, can also be someone else, with different title, like the president or a senator or whoever just SAVE US ALL and if it does not work, well we blame you and then we pick a new face.

The system in place is IN PLACE since we ALLOW IT and support it. The minority in charge simply represents the majority not in charge. The minority in charge are the "majority winners". Only one winner every now and then.
The greatest desire of an average human animal is NOT to leave peacefully and help to benefit the human kind. The average person wants to climb the ladder. It wants to get higher up in the system. Never mind the "secret government". Show them that and they will want to climb even more.



Would you entrust such beings as humans tend to be with freedom?

Would you remove the shackles of the system to then sit back and watch what happens?

Would you blame the past system if things do not work out, as in, oh poor people they know not what they do, they have been scared by the former world order, to now roam the planet in such a ferocious way?

Would you give them advanced "magic like" technology? Here human use this tool. We call it a rope. It can be very useful. Do be careful though - don't hang yourself or others with it.





As much as i often wish these insider stories were true well... As much as i personally greatly desire a change, an actual change and NOT just another repetition of recent or distant history...
Maybe some are. Very few. Would a being so far ahead on a "cosmic evolutionary scale" actually even bother with us? And if it would, to what an extent?

I say, remove the chains, unveil what is hidden, pull up the curtain and put all the talk about humanity and it's divine nature to the test. Enough "training" (or whatever you wish to call what we have now).

[Dreamtimer]

"I say, remove the chains, unveil what is hidden, pull up the curtain and put all the talk about humanity and it's divine nature to the test." Huzzah to that.

I sent my son to a school that was committed to teaching children how to think rather than what to think. You named it, 'critical thinking'. And yes I agree with you that many don't want to take this responsibility.

Holding on to a victim mentality can certainly lead to a failure to take responsibility. I've watched first hand someone who is angered at another's poor driving and then proceeds to drive equally dangerously themselves to 'teach' this other person some sort of lesson. It's the other person's poor driving at fault, not their own choice to add to the poor and dangerous driving. It's failure to take responsibility and irrational behavior based on...anger.

Seems like what you're saying is that people are failing to take responsibility due to immaturity. So your finishing statement is right on time. People need a good kick in the butt.

I don't personally believe that the average person just wants to climb the ladder. I believe most people just want to live their lives and not be harassed by others. People are naturally creative and social and engage in all kinds of activities because they're interesting, fun, challenging, whatever.

The psychopaths and power hungry aren't the majority. They're just the experts at what they do. If most people were trying to climb the ladder we wouldn't have the same types on top all the time.

[Tanta]

I am eager to see humanity being given the chance for self determination, self reliance and self leadership...to then witness the never ending squabbles as the "divine nature" takes over and time comes when one can make a free choice, but at the same time also gets immediately served everything resulting from it.

A chance where "each of us can truly shine in all the human potential".

[Tanta]

About the Moneh


person A and person B are linked, be it either in what they stand for or in the message they are attempting to share or being part of the same movement...etc


person A statement: there is a parallel civilization existing on and off of this world, they have very advanced technology and can travel outside the solar system, construct underground cities, bases on moon and mars. This parallel civilization is where all the trillions of dollars of your tax money go to. All the money from you hard work goes to these black budget / unacknowledged special access programs.

person B statement: there is a super advanced technology out there but it is only kept and used by the elite and this elite does not want you to have this technology since it would mean the slave banking system would be over, it would end poverty and hunger and we would live like a star trek civilization



let us consider: first we might wish to think what part of our body to scratch in order to properly express the "confusion" regarding the two above statements. Second - why would a parallel civilization ever need something such as money, especially with all their supposed technology and why is it that only US tax payers are at stake? I thought that "babylonian money magic system" is a global one. Maybe one should not expose it's target audience so blatantly. They can build underground cities and travel the stars, but they need your money to do it. B astards!



person A statement: when we reach that point massive funds will be unleashed/released, everyone will have enough money to buy and invest and it will be all backed up by gold


let us consider: so much whatever it is hard to know where to begin. If you wish to backup massive amounts of cash, offered to all humans, the price of gold, given the current known amounts, would have to dramatically! increase. This increase in price would essentially make a new 1% super class consisting of current gold owners, a minor part of which could be any "well off" person today owning a few kilograms of gold. So that would not change much at all. Even if you go and open alleged jungle/underground/undersea vaults overflowing with gold (easter bunny is real too) it would still be the same.

If your money amount increases suddenly by several hundred percent you are a lottery winner or you just got your banking christmas bonus. Congratulations! (not). If your money amount increases by several hundred percent and same happens for EVERYONE ELSE the COST of goods and services will also proportionally INCREASE to reflect that change, so you and everyone else will gain nothing.

The problem is not in the amount of money or some metal like gold. The problem is in the amount of goods available and what it takes to make them available. After goods come services and knowledge+skill to perform them.


person B statement: when we reach that point massive funds will be unleashed/released to be used in a new "world wide investment and development plan"

let us consider: ok massive funds, no gold backing and not for everyone but somewhat "collectively" or to say a "centrally planned economy". Do i hear some teeth grinding? This could actually work if done correctly. Yet since human animal is...a human animal...it is an extremely risky chance to take. This could only work if human animal would indeed better itself. Dream on...yes. Open source governance maybe along with collaborative e-democracy. To make this happen everyone would just have to agree with it, it would also take what is labeled as "financial reset", it would still be a financial system, yet in theory it would be fair game for all, not just for a select few.

If you add "backed by gold" to the B statement, then you can forget about it all. If you want to back anything up, you can do so with the "net output" or the "real economy capacity". Also, if you are one of the few responsible, who actually have some savings instead of debt, there is a good chance you would greatly dislike the "financial reset" part.

[Tanta]

Separate post for crypto moneh (bit coin, lite coin, start coin, world coin, dark coin, whatever coin)

Crypto currency has some nice things about it. There is no arguing that. But those nice things are everywhere you go to look up about crypto. So here i will write about the not so nice ones and no it wont be the darknet usage. That is just another side matter.

Problems are several, most bothersome one is the fact that majority of BTC (bit coin) is owned by a very small number of people. Yes BTC has its 1%. Or actually less than just one percent. Those would be the early miners/adopters. Most people do not know this, most people are inept when it comes to basic computer stuff, workings of BTC are unknown to them. They do not even get the basic philosophy behind it and are just trying to make a quick buck = transitioning back to fiat system after the "buy low, sell high" stupidity.

There are also "technical difficulties" which makes exchanges/storage open for attacks/theft (Mt.Gox)

The whales (majority owners) dictate all "movements" which includes price. There ofc are also other factors, like the ones made by the Chinese government.

New cryptos are sprouting up like mushrooms after the rain. They offer little to no improvement to the original crypto (BTC) and exist with a sole purpose of "pump it up"...wait for others to buy... and then "dump it" (sell for fiat)...thus making a profit at expense of everyone else...also trying to make a profit.

The basic idea behind crypto can be considered a good one but it has to evolve further. Thing is the human animals in general do not evolve as fast.

[Entity]

Doesn't evolve fast compared to what? Aliens? Which ones the deceptively stupid ones or the stupidly deceptive ones?
Hard to make an appropriate comparison, but if I were I would think we the animals are in a far more advantageous position than any terminally clueless extraterrestrial.

Plus with excellent demonstrations of critical thought from intelligent animals such as yourself Tanta, one may be encouraged to shed the frustration and despair in place of cautious optimism and a stern resolve to sturdy the mind to all manner of lies and deceit.

[Windancer]

Truth is - people don't care.

People do not care IS the Bottom line ! Seeing gross apathy with no empathy everywhere and it has become worse as the years have progressed (in my lifetime). Not a TV watcher and have not since the "Lost in Space" days, spending everyDay I could grab, after chores, on the back of a horse enjoying mother and what she IS. When my mom took that show away from us as kids, that was it. Heck, it was the only show I liked to watch!
I chose to question and ask why, I chose (was a) rebellious spirit especially to all who told me "this is the way and that is the way it is". Really? Who said? Have always wanted to know who gave whom THE permission to do what? Always challenging those of the system as I just do/did not accept things that "just" are. Used critical thinking way before knowing what it was which include questions of who/whom. what, where, why and how!... analyze, realize and possibly more questions after that. Oh, its been fun.
Realizing the majority are not forced in to anything and they CHOOSE to take paths of lesser resistance for it is easy and not difficult, planting their heads to not see, hear, experience the wrongdoings of themselves or others, whether it be for their selves, against their selves or the whole collect. (I believe they have had help in not seeing so plainly too via their blind/uneducated/unrealized/"stooped in to"( truth not revealed/twisted/deception) choices of and at times, forced consumption of all that (I see) is wrong, pushed by corporate greed and governmental backings/my opinion)
This civilization/age/life is not easy especially when one is awake who sees/hears/feels, willing to "do", to challenge status quo. How many times I have been looked @ like I have three heads....wow ...countless. Not saying here that I am right all of the time either, as mistakes are made/admitted and move on... Try to motivate people, get them to THINK!, use their brains.... although some are starting to scratch their heads.
I CARE!, no apathy or lack of empathy here and as I see it, a change for one is a change for all.
Good post and I enjoyed reading! Sorry to ramble,
Thank you!
Critical thinking is great!

[lcam88]

I am eager to see humanity being given the chance for self determination, self reliance and self leadership...to then witness the never ending squabbles as the "divine nature" takes over and time comes when one can make a free choice, but at the same time also gets immediately served everything resulting from it.

A chance where "each of us can truly shine in all the human potential".

The only chance of that happening must be on an individual level, and the opportunity must be apparent for the individual. I would advocate for education as a means to increase the chances of that happening.

And then, there must be some view that a continuation of efforts regarding that opportunity become apparent so that the individual doesn't shift gears back to the "norm" or "non-determinalistic status-quo" option. That requires laying the groundwork so people who may choose this "path" have the security they need. That will protect the more fragile variations from withering or dying away; you must consider that not everyone is as resistant, intelligent or as robust as you find yourself to be.

What ideas do you have that may reach for your own ideals?

EDIT: Contemplations for the post following the quoted above.

Money is really only the means to convince or persuade others to do the bidding of whoever offers money. It is a pillar of power that has been created for the sake of the functionality innate in the actual social design. The power of money is _only_ based in the faith that it is of value AND that we require that value. It is also fitting to say that the actual value of money is backed by the productivity of those who believe in it's value and so continue to uphold it with investments of their productivity.

That is how fragile the system is, people need only start believing in something else. How? Well that is a good question to me. Do you have any ideas? I'll put forth a notion so that you may not spring too far off topic What you want to build cannot be shaped by what it intends to challenge or by what it is not, it must have its own actual form and actually be. Or else it will lose it's meaning once the context that defined its original meaning and existence is defeated.

[donk]

Throw in a Reptilian mothership with a CIA agent on board acting on behalf of Israel (so a double agent) that is aiming towards hybrid blood line control by planning to start a Global War using their top Iranian insider Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. But i can not say anything more than that, as it can reveal my identity! Yes there is so many of us that know this Top Secret thing, that they will not be able to find out. But if i say anything more they will.

Holy crap dude, you should at least have a Q&A about this paradigm-shattering intel!!

If you read everything so far you might have guessed by now that i am trying to incept you with critical thinking.

Incept me, eh? I don't like the sound of that...is that some kind of black magick or mind control Definitely not resonating with me dude.

....seriously though, I feel your pain. It is a difficult discussion to have, ironically enough at the places it seems like it should be easy. You took it on a high level (with a lot of generalizations and straw man arguments...my only quibble with your otherwise solid OP), the "as above"...which sometimes gets some traction...and hopefully opens some eyes. I find when you try taking to the "...so below" level of the personal relationship with some of these cats, that's when it gets really wild.

If only we could walk all the talk we go around in circles about....

[donk]

Bringing money into the conversation is the same thing as taking "intel" from msm or alt-insiders. Money is a faith based tool of control, a magical device that allows it's controller the ability to manipulate certain (most human) energy exchanges. I suggest going past this old trap and help people look at the root of it, the lie that is the VALUE we give OWNERSHIP.

I do not believe that it can ever be empowering to humanity, only individual humans (at the expense of the rest). Until we collectively recognize, it's gonna be the same sh!t, different toilet.

At the root of everything, real information is true currency...anyone with more than you can easily take whatever you believe you have a "right" to "own", not just your physical property...but your words and identity and even your mind.

[donk]

The thing of it is, I think, is that we all fall into a “open-mindedness” trap…every individual thinks that they are open-minded, even (especially) those with the most rigid belief system.

We in this community like to think we are more open-minded (so open-minded we believe in aliens and past lives and conspiracies, oh my!)….and are all but incapable of being susceptible of falling into the trap of a non-negotioable beliefs.

That of course is where the “inner knowing” and “resonating” and “vibrations” and crap all come in. Our keen intuition and trusting of instincts and oh so great discernment skills and sensitivity.

Not to say that some (or most or all) are not continually refining these necessary things that have been programmed out of us…it’s that anyone with acuity in any are targets of more sophisticated traps, if not from some external than our own ego…I know that’s an endless argument but the result is the same.

Our unwillingness to let go of (or even recognize) our most strongly held emotional attachments is the disempowering roadblock, what traps us in loops.

At least this is how I see it.

[SmokeyJoe1952]

Just my 2 cents worth but I think it depends mostly on the character and integrity of the insider in question, whether they have a provable and verifiable history and are known within the community for some length of time. Since the inception of youtube in particular its far too easy these days for an individual to claim being an insider and post openly on the net all sorts of claims. With so much data out there and freely available its far too easy to concoct a series of claims and pass them off as true and valid, because unfortunately certain data or info cannot be proven nor disproven. I think from the last ten years everyone should look extremely closely at all that come to the table with data, more closely than those whom disclosed prior to the advent of social media.