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    Surge of soldiers wanting to quit

    I am pleased this is happening the sheep are saying no
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10274897/Surge-of-
    soldiers-wanting-to-quit-prompts-morale-concerns.html

    Surge of soldiers wanting to quit prompts morale concerns
    The latest round of Army redundancies was 40 per cent oversubscribed by volunteers wanting to quit, an official breakdown shows, prompting concerns of falling morale.

    The Army is being slimmed down from 100,000 to 82,000 by 2020 as part of the Government’s defence cuts. Photo: Reuters
    By Ben Farmer, Defence Correspondent10:00PM BST 29 Aug 2013
    The Army announced 4,450 redundancies in June as part of ongoing cuts to the Armed Forces from the Government’s cost-cutting defence reviews.
    A breakdown of the job losses shows that 6,210 soldiers had wanted to leave and applied for a redundancy package.
    The demand to leave was higher in officers where the Army made 240 redundant, but had 380 applicants step forward to quit.
    Military sources said the number of applicants had surprised commanders and was far higher than earlier rounds in 2011 and 2012, where there were more job cuts than volunteers.
    The prospect of a dwindling Army conducting fewer operations with less equipment has hit morale and made many reconsider their uncertain futures, according to military insiders.
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    Army chiefs are particularly concerned they are losing a generation of officers who have gained invaluable experience from the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan.
    One senior Army source said: “It’s the worst I have seen it and we are losing some real high flyers who could have great careers in front of them.
    “These are not old duffers, we are talking about highly experienced middle-ranking officers who have spent the last 12 years in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
    Col Richard Kemp, a former commander of British forces in Afghanistan, said many soldiers now viewed the Army as a “declining industry”.
    He said: “People who had hoped to serve out full careers and have the expected career path and progression are seeing it shattered as the Army is cut to pieces.
    “A lot of people are seeing their friends made redundant and that causes a lot of discontent. There’s a lot of concern about people losing allowances and how that will hit their standards of living.”
    He said it would be “incredibly difficult” to replace the hard-won experience held by many of those leaving.
    He said: “You can’t train it overnight, it takes a great deal of time and hard work to get to that stage. I think in the long term, we are going to see the Army suffer for this.”
    The Army is being slimmed down from 100,000 to 82,000 by 2020 as part of the Government’s defence cuts.
    Gen Sir Peter Wall, Chief of the General Staff, acknowledged earlier this year that as the cuts bit, they were creating gaps and leaving soldiers unsettled and frustrated.
    Catherine Spencer, chief executive of the Army Families' Federation said there could be concerns about morale, but said the redundancy offer had also been open to large numbers of soldiers.
    A Ministry of Defence spokesman said a huge number of soldiers had chosen to stay, "so it is not a reflection on morale in the Army".
    He said: "The last set of redundancies were the largest to date so it is only natural that we would expect more soldiers to have applied for this tranche.
    "We have worked hard to make sure that soldiers selected for redundancy receive a generous redundancy package and it is not surprising that a number of soldiers, having served their country with distinction for a number of years, were looking for a fresh challenge."

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    Mind control is breaking down it seems.

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    Hi Ria

    At the time of your post, I noticed the link wouldn't click, so I'm re-posting it here with the belief more of the kinks have worked out with the new board.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-concerns.html

    We shall see if it works. I posted it inside the little blue icon that starts off above...and ends with the quote wrap.

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    I think here is a place to post this petition which I just signed. There is a big group wanting to have an army and they are very concerned about it.

    Currently there is a Private members Bill presented by Mr Philip Hollobone MP that is passing to its second reading in the house of commons that asks, the government to pass a law to provide a system of national service for young persons.

    We the undersigned do not want our children and grandchildren to be forced to undertake mandatory conscription or service in to any system that requires them by law to submit to training or residential activity, that is not optional and carries a criminal penalty for non compliance. We do not support any attempts to force young people between the ages of 18-26 in to any training that carries the option of military style training or conscription in to the military for any reason that is not voluntary.

    It is unacceptable to force any person to engage in training that has mandatory residential elements, military training and or actual service in the military without the ability to refuse, without placing themselves in a position of having to brake the law and gaining a criminal record. We do not want our children and grandchildren to fight and die in wars, or in training that they or we have no control over.

    We ask that the Private Members Bill, The National Service Bill 2013-14 Presented by Mr Philip Hollobone be rejected in its entirety and that our government reassure us that non voluntary service and any residential or military style training, or service will always be a freedom of choice and not a system of conscription imposed upon UK citizens, especially young people, who should be able to choose their own futures.
    http://www.change.org/en-GB/petition...pHc_cqFQLCvnOo

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    Quote Originally posted by Altaira View Post
    I think here is a place to post this petition which I just signed. There is a big group wanting to have an army and they are very concerned about it.



    http://www.change.org/en-GB/petition...pHc_cqFQLCvnOo
    Good Idear

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    The veil of deception is lifting at a fast pace , it cannot go any faster or people wouldn't be able to cope with the full extent . Blessings to all who are seeing for the first time the shocking truths xx

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