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    Quote Originally posted by modwiz View Post
    I do not speak of the alt-sovereignty type of definition of the term. I speak to an inner-god realization of being an expression of the Creator on this planet. Sovereignty to me means compassion/wisdom and knowing ones place in the universal order of things. I speak of being a sovereign of this planet. Nothing at all to do with gubmints.
    I wasn't speaking about gubmints either. But I gather you already understand what I was trying to express.

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    Quote Originally posted by GoodETxSG View Post
    We agree more than you know kind sir. That is what has been holding me back on the most recent report.

    How to focus on the "Message" and getting people to focus on making the needed changes to themselves and not just get addicted to a "Story" or what they feel is the next big and new "Sci-Fi Concept"... This is a dilemma for us right now...

    Some of this information in the next update is disturbing and some would consider "fear porn", some is very "thrilling" and "empowering". Some of it is encoded messages to the Alliance here on the Earth. But what of it is going to lead people toward looking within themselves and doing the very hard work of making changes and becoming loving, forgiving people who then focus on raising their consciousness and vibrations?

    That is a concern for us as well.

    We do not want this to just become a popular and exciting topic for people to become addicted to... But for it to become something that inspires a movement of people making changes to themselves that make the world a better place.

    Thank you for your wisdom, as usual it is in synch with what is going on in the background.

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    All of the "bring it on" aside....I, for one, totally appreciate the thoughtfulness and care you and those revealing this information with you are taking. It says a lot. Not thoughtfulness to the aim of eliciting a specific, self-serving response, but genuinely taking into concern others' paths and where they are on them. My guess would be that regardless of when or how you do release information, there will people to interpret, misinterpret, reinterpret, deify and vilify both you and the information. We are all human, and as such we all have a switch inside of us that turns to survival mode that creates anxiety when we are faced with our mortality and our reality. Even when we are people who like to think we have transcended that, we still have that immediate reaction - if not for ourselves, then for those we love (say our children). But hopefully it's a spark that lingers. Everyone will take their own time to be ready to process it.

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    I feel totally lost.

    I read the op and all the following posts.

    There are lots of wisdom within them, however my narrow mind cannot make any sense how some of them are related to op.

    I figured I do not fully understand the op.

    So would you please be so kind and lend me a hand monk?!
    You aren't narrow minded, you are perceptive.

    The purpose of the OP was for each of us to try to provide some kind of independent analysis of what "we are the children of sorrow and we are here to clean up the mess we made" might mean.

    Discernment is a highly popular yet wholly under-utilised concept, my only wish was to have a hearty brainstorm about what that quote could mean.

    I hope that helps InCider. :-)

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    Monk,

    I have studied all of the Law of one info and while I understand The majority of it, I'm certainly no expert. I will interpret what I learned and others who have studied can freely correct any discrepancies they see.
    Ra was not an individual, it was a 6th density social memory complex who were channeling through Carla. In other words they were a group of souls that had ascended from Venus and had made a conscious decision to combine themselves into one soul complex. At one point Don asked Ra about their 6th density goals and Ra revealed that they were known as "The Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow" and that when people prayed and lamented to God about the tragedies and sorrows of their lives, Ra would hear them and try to help.
    With regards to "Fixing the mess we made". David was referencing the earlier times that Ra came to earth on the physical plane to try and teach the law of one. Ra stated that their soul complex on Venus ascended quite quickly in regards to most planets because they were not a veiled planet with regards to their memories being wiped clean before every incarnation like here on earth. Since they had full memories of all lessons learned, they were very focused on the STO pathway and as such ascended very quickly. In hindsight, one drawback to that quick ascension with the majority of beings focused on love and STO was that they as a soul group were quite naive. They had been assisted with technology when coming up through ascension, they naively assumed that we would benefit from it just like they had.

    When they first came to earth it was with the Atlanteans and they taught them to use advanced technologies like crystals for healing and energies to help them learn the Law of one and those technologies ended up being perverted and used by certain elite in the society to have dominion over the lower classes. (Hmmm, seems a familiar theme) At some point war broke out twice and they almost destroyed the planet through the use of nuclear weapons. Later, Ra came back during Egyptian times and tried to teach again the law of one. They built the great pyramid of Giza to assist the Egyptians in expanding their pineal communication abilities and to used the pyramids energy focusing abilities for healing. And again the powers were distorted by the priest class to become a ruling elite and hold power over the masses. They came a third time to a group in South America And the results with that group were negative as well.

    So you can see, that for them, they probably feel some karmic debt that they would like to reverse. Although, in my mind, man was given the chance and we were the ones that messed it up. Hopefully we can get it right this time. I doubt they are going to give us any offensive technology this time though.

    Love will be the weapon of choice if we are to ascend this time.

    Peace and love people!
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    Is it just me?

    It seems 6th to 9th density beings concerning themselves with 3D Earth affairs is like humans attempting to arbitrate an ant skirmish.

    Maybe its just me that sees this.

    Anyways... children of sorrow is certainly a perspective.

    My perspective is - We are children who got lazy and the universe responded.
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    Quote Originally posted by Sam Hunter View Post
    Is it just me?

    It seems 6th to 9th density beings concerning themselves with 3D Earth affairs is like humans attempting to arbitrate an ant skirmish.

    Maybe its just me that sees this.

    Anyways... children of sorrow is certainly a perspective.

    My perspective is - children who got lazy and the universe responded.
    My husband and I were having the exact conversation late last night, interestingly. He said the same thing - what's so special about this planet? Why are all these races so interested or invested in this planet and in us? Of the billions of planets out there, there must be others that have a magnetosphere and atmosphere and are as beautiful.

    My take - equate it to conservationists here. Even in our density, there are those who dedicate their existence to saving species here that the majority of us may not find very interesting or necessary. If we are all part of a whole, then doesn't every part matter to some extent?

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    Quote Originally posted by Sam Hunter View Post
    Is it just me?

    It seems 6th to 9th density beings concerning themselves with 3D Earth affairs is like humans attempting to arbitrate an ant skirmish.

    Maybe its just me that sees this.

    Anyways... children of sorrow is certainly a perspective.

    My perspective is - children who got lazy and the universe responded.
    Yes, Sam. It must be you.

    Although, you know why I think Earth/Gaia is getting so much attention. However that does not get mentioned, so your comparison has merit.
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    Quote Originally posted by modwiz View Post
    Yes, Sam. It must be you.

    Although, you know why I think Earth/Gaia is getting so much attention. However that does not get mentioned, so your comparison has merit.
    It is all him. He has a score to settle. He admitted putting decades of study into satanism and lucaferianism but comments on the one law beings with out studying any of it. I opened up and commented on a thread and was attacked and now am being accused of being not who I say I am. This is allowed on this web site? Corey is waiting to comment further on the statement above that was left in tact that caused the problems. I am saying I am done with these types of web sites. The wack job factor is more than I have time to deal with and obviously not a problem for the web owners. Avalon was bad enough and now the negativity here from a hand full is enough to spoil the whole barrel of apples. I resign my membership.
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    Quote Originally posted by Silver Phoenix View Post
    It is all him. He has a score to settle. He admitted putting decades of study into satanism and lucaferianism but comments on the one law beings with out studying any of it. I opened up and commented on a thread and was attacked and now am being accused of being not who I say I am. This is allowed on this web site?
    No, it isn't, and that is why we have deleted that post, and all the invective that followed. However, personal attacks are never justified in any honest debate -- an ad hominem is always a sign that one has already lost the debate, because that means that one shoots at the messenger, rather than at the message -- and over here at The One Truth, we do not approve of such either, so I must ask you too to refrain from making any personally targeted comments about other members.

    Furthermore, Sam has now deactivated his account, so he's not even here anymore to defend himself, but I have personally been communicating with him via private e-mail off of the forum in the last couple of hours. He feels bad about this confrontation, and I have pointed out his mistake to him, but that doesn't mean that he was the only one to make such a mistake. The way I see it, an innocent comment was taken as a personal attack, and ad hominems followed, from both sides.

    Quote Originally posted by Silver Phoenix View Post
    Corey is waiting to comment further on the statement above that was left in tact that caused the problems.
    The statement in itself was as innocent as can be. It was not an attack on your husband. It was a legitimate question from Sam's own point of view with regard to a situation he does not understand, and I believe that modwiz gave Sam an adequate albeit slightly humorous reply. There was no need for anyone to get personal.

    Quote Originally posted by Silver Phoenix View Post
    I am saying I am done with these types of web sites. The wack job factor is more than I have time to deal with and obviously not a problem for the web owners.
    Making accusations and casting judgement is easy. Walking in our shoes and trying to deliberate between two sparring parties is an entirely different thing.

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    Avalon was bad enough and now the negativity here from a hand full is enough to spoil the whole barrel of apples. I resign my membership.
    SF
    That is your prerogative, but nobody is asking you to. We do however have rules, and every member here has agreed to our rules when they signed up. We do not make any exceptions and we do not grant anyone any favors that we would not also extend toward any of our other members.

    Also, please, do not confuse The One Truth with Project Avalon. What applies over there does not apply over here. I myself am a refugee from there as well, so I know what I'm talking about.
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    Quote Originally posted by ERK View Post
    ^^^ Oh ok, my response was to the two above mine which I guess were deleted.
    No worries. Your one-line response was either way a correct statement, and I consider it on-topic for the discussions being held here.
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    Quote Originally posted by Silver Phoenix View Post
    It is all him. He has a score to settle. He admitted putting decades of study into satanism and lucaferianism [...] The wack job factor is more than I have time to deal with [...] I resign my membership.
    What we want more than anything right now at TOT is harmony. If we pursue personal insights in the "right direction," I believe we will realize that approaching each other in a conciliatory way is always preferable to continuing discord.

    One technique I use a lot, that really helps, is to not focus on what it might seem like someone else is doing wrong, but instead, what can I do to help resolve this situation in an amicable way, even if I have to agree to disagree with someone?

    You do not have to agree with someone else, but on TOT the staff asks that you at least be courteous to others and not make personal comments.

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