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    Veterans Today - disinformants getting bolder

    This is actually significant, very significant. Don't know how many here have been following VT over the years but they have been putting out a lot of credible intel over time. My favourite has always been Gordon Duff who has had a lot of, in my opinion, good perspectives.

    Then I listened to a radio show a few weeks back where he had a quite supportive stance on vaccination and my red flag immediately went up. I thought, ok, this is not right.

    The last weeks and days he has been very actively been dissing Jade Helm.

    And then I read this.

    So now we have a situation where Gordon is in total confrontation with other, very credible (again IMO) people at VT.

    Beaming over some light, seems it's needed all over the world.

    Added, another good reference: April 24, 2015 by Starship Earth: The Big Picture - Better Read Jim Fetzer’s Blog if you Want the Truth About Jade Helm
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    Cup, thanks for this. I noticed already something weird when a popular article on JH was no longer on the VT site and only super sarcastic articles remained. It was like April Fools. (appropriate season, I suppose).

    I listened to an interview of GDuff on Red Ice radio. (from some months ago) He was all over this being a criminal drug cartel nation. But the really weird thing is, he claimed that there aren't really very many people who believe in God in America anymore. He said he doesn't know anyone who does.

    My reaction was, huh? Who is he talking to? Most everyone I know believes in God in some way and my family alone has some very faithful, including a pastor.

    That was a really bizarre thing to say.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Cup, thanks for this. I noticed already something weird when a popular article on JH was no longer on the VT site and only super sarcastic articles remained. It was like April Fools. (appropriate season, I suppose).

    I listened to an interview of GDuff on Red Ice radio. (from some months ago) He was all over this being a criminal drug cartel nation. But the really weird thing is, he claimed that there aren't really very many people who believe in God in America anymore. He said he doesn't know anyone who does.

    My reaction was, huh? Who is he talking to? Most everyone I know believes in God in some way and my family alone has some very faithful, including a pastor.

    That was a really bizarre thing to say.
    Yes, weird energies, still trying to understand what's going on.

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    We are on Earth 4/26/2015: It's "Slim Pickins"

    The sources of charismatic, intelligent, knowledgable, fearless, and as important, have the financial capacity to have a good and professional show: are very limited. Those that do, either are compromised, or have too limited capacity to keep up with current events in real time. And notice the subjects that most avoid (save for Laurent Moret, Dark Journalist, Alfred Lambremont Webre, Wes Penre and a few others): Jesuits, and how they have ruled the world (below their gods); Royals (with the Vatican via their treaties); Knights of Malta and how they are linked with the aforementioned, and the Masons...

    Gordon Duff said several years ago that he could only report 60 - 70% of the Truth, in order to remain alive. He was being questioned (by Pete Santilli, another rocket scientist) why everyone at VT discredited Dr. Judy Wood, "Where Did The Towers Go?"

    Gordon Duff only criticizes the Republicans, their obligations to Adelson (as if the Democrats do not), The Federal Reserve and the Zionists. He speaks highly of Democrats, specifically the Clintons (who he brags he is friends with).

    Yes, of late, their VT radio shows have been noticeably lacking; Stew Webb had a show last week wherein he seemed to be saying that he was separating himself from an unnamed someone (because of their support for Hillary as an example). I presumed that was Gordon Duff, but Webb often rants that he supports Gordon Duff for president. Like I wrote, "It's Slim Pickins"

    So, yes, I am suspect of Gordon Duff on his dismissal of JH, dangers of vaccines or anything else. While, I listen to him for the 60 - 70% that is informative; I worry that some of his more recent opinions could be closer to 0% Truth.
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    I think Gordon Duff is disinfo and I'll tell you why.

    This is his current bio information on Veterans Today:

    Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War. He is a disabled veteran and has worked on veterans and POW issues for decades.

    Gordon Duff is an accredited diplomat and is generally accepted as one of the top global intelligence specialists. He manages the world's largest private intelligence organization and regularly consults with governments challenged by security issues.

    Gordon Duff has traveled extensively, is published around the world and is a regular guest on TV and radio in more than "several" countries. He is also a trained chef, wine enthusiast, avid motorcyclist and gunsmith specializing in historical weapons and restoration. Business experience and interests are in energy and defense technology.
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/gordonduff/


    These credentials have changed many times, mostly just adding more and more new stuff that he's done since becoming a 100% disabled Vietnam vet, though the part about him being 100% disabled was removed.

    At one point in the past his bio said this:

    “Gordon Duff is a Marine Vietnam veteran, a combat infantryman, and Senior Editor at Veterans Today. His career has included extensive experience in international banking along with such diverse areas as consulting on counter insurgency, surveillance technologies, intelligence analysis,defense technologies or acting as a UN diplomat and “special consultant.”

    Duff currently serves on the boards of the Adamus Group, one of the world’s largest energy technology firms and of a private financial institution participating in the Federal Reserve Banking group.

    His most recent project adapts advanced military technologies to wildlife and land management in cooperation with the UN, USAID and International Wildlife Federation.“
    http://fauxcapitalist.com/2012/12/01...his-elite-bio/


    Notice that he claims to serve on the board of one of the private banks that make up the Federal Reserve. So... even if he's telling the truth, we're supposed to trust him now?

    And he says that he's a consultant in "counter insurgency, surveillance technologies, intelligence analysis, [and] defense technologies." Once again, I'm not sure how that's supposed to win him any brownie points in conspiracy circles.

    Also, his wife apparently champions the hell out of big pharma, pushing vaccines and anything else the FDA approves I guess.


    This page shows Duff's military record: http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=18933

    He was awarded no purple hearts, so if he's 100% disabled then, as the site above points out, it apparently wasn't from combat-related injuries. Plus, the idea behind government-award disability is that you are too unhealthy to be able to work and make a living. If he's doing all the crap he claims to be, while being 100% disabled, then he would be investigated by the feds for abusing the system and claiming that he's not able to work. All the stuff he claims to do seems to be too much for a 0% disabled person, let alone 100%.

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    They Stopped Beating Around the Duff!

    "Veterans Truth Network (4-28-15) Gordon Duff Roast", by Stew Webb, Dean Henderson, Gene Tatum and Bruce Campbell. These former reporters at Veterans Today begin the video by stating they have left Veterans Today because of their issues with Gordon Duff.

    This provides important information relating to the relevance of this Thread, whether well recognized "alternative media" personalities are (and have been) lying / providing disinformation to us. Mr. Duff's latest claim that Jade Helm 15 is merely an ill-advised Army exercise, comes into play here. The ramifications of him lying about that are very significant to everyone in North America.

    This video is definitely worth a listen:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiv5-Uk_0so
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    It strikes me as these are the types of changes one would expect to see if he were being 'actively' discredited.

    We ARE dealing with the 'intelligence' arena, and even though he is an 'active' voice for the pentagon, that doesn't mean he can't be compromised.

    Just a passing thought.

    JJ

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    Quote Originally posted by johnjen325 View Post
    It strikes me as these are the types of changes one would expect to see if he were being 'actively' discredited. We ARE dealing with the 'intelligence' arena, and even though he is an 'active' voice for the pentagon, that doesn't mean he can't be compromised.
    Yes, in the world of intelligence absolutely nothing can be taken at face value. Everything has to be put in context and motives analysed and understood. Even then it's hazy at best. Fascinating in one sense, disgusting in another, it's all about manipulation.

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    For what it's worth, Benjamin Fulford mentions Veterans Today in his latest post.

    "Meanwhile, the Pentagon run site Veteran’s today has been providing very detailed and continuous intelligence dumps about the Khazarian mafia oligarchy that stole the Republic of the United States of America from its people."

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    Quote Originally posted by DeeZe View Post
    For what it's worth, Benjamin Fulford mentions Veterans Today in his latest post.

    "Meanwhile, the Pentagon run site Veteran’s today has been providing very detailed and continuous intelligence dumps about the Khazarian mafia oligarchy that stole the Republic of the United States of America from its people."
    If you listen to this:


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiv5-Uk_0so


    there is a reference made to the connection between Duff-Mike Harris-Ben Fulford. Fulford is also described as a con artist by Stew Webb et.al. Something that seems quite reasonable. Fulford is, to me, just a story teller with a large audience of gullible people looking for mental entertainment camouflaged as "truth".

    The large audiences these story tellers of unverifiable fables are able to gain says everything about the mental, intellectual and spiritual status of their followers.

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    Quote Originally posted by Cup View Post
    If you listen to this:
    I look at that video, Cup, I see "2:56:12" and I get scared. You wouldn't know off the top of your head where in that video the references you're talking about are, would you?

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    Exclamation

    It has begun, though this is just the beginning... It will be hitting everyone hard very shortly especially as more and more whistle blower information comes out that was never supposed to see the light of day...

    It has been interesting to see all of the amping up of "Disinformation" coming from the various factions of the Military, Intelligence and Secret Earth Government Syndicates (AKA Cabal/Illuminati "Operatives") through their various Online and Main Stream "Mediums" (These groups are complete chaos and panic though they would convince you the opposite is the case)... They are putting their best trained and most clever operatives that mostly come from the "Personality Metamorph Programs" (THE very best infiltration and counter intelligence agents ever created in known history). These are the people that you could send into the roughest biker bars wearing pink polo shirts and within a few hours they will leave riding a motorcycle with a biker girl on the back who used to be going steady with one of the big guys from the biker group (Using very advanced forms of "Social Engineering"). This is absolutely NO Exaggeration and is just one of the tests they are put through while in training prior to being considered ready to deploy. Their handlers cannot control them very well (They are always extremely emphatic that they "Report To Noone OR Follow Anyones Orders!") at all and are only tolerated because of their extremely successful rates of return.

    Often Intuitive Empaths are used during their debriefs just to try to make sense of the information and make sure they are reporting what they should. They are among the most dangerous and scary groups in use to this day (ALL highly intelligent sociopaths). You probably know one yourself and there very well could be at least one who is a member on every forum off this type.

    They target their intended audience and focus on them with their very cleverly words and play them like a "Fiddle"... Most people think the least intelligent people are the easiest to mind control or co-opt using disinformation that is carefully crafted for their specific personality types and profiles (I state in my interview with DW that an accurate and detailed "Psychological Profile" is a more strategically important tool than any weapon or threat...). When I stated "Even the elect will be deceived" I was not trying to be Biblical but make a point that the gnashing of teeth and humiliation that will occur once the full data disclosures do occur will upset and humiliate many who have been targeted and were certain about the info they supported and not only followed but help spread.

    This "Disinformation War" is in its very early steps and the various people are in their "Probing" stage to judge "Reactions" to know where to focus the full thrust of their campaigns... The planting of seeds into the subconscious of people for their black magic purposes is another aspect that is extremely important to them.

    There are different strategies for each of these disinformation groups just as they have their own... At this point the Alliance who has access to all off the intel from the NSA Cache are biding their time and giving certain individuals and groups enough time and rope to hang themselves...

    When all is said and done this will cause some heated arguments and hard feelings online but when the full data dumps occur there will be no questions only extreme anger. This is what is behind some of the military training exercises. Many of them do have very nefarious intentions behind them, however the Alliance leadership will take advantage of the situation to try to create a calm atmosphere for the release of some of the more disturbing information once certain financial and other scandals become public causing many to wake up and want to know more. This will be the sign that the "masses" are finally prepped for the spoon feeding off the full disclosure package.

    Between now and then be prepared for much cleverer and confusing information put forth by each groups most poetic and gifted writers and speakers to play with your emotions and intellect. If you think you are too smart to be mislead, you have already been done so.

    Corey/GoodETxSG


    Will you or have you already fallen for one of these disinfo campaigns? Only time will truly tell because those who have fallen for them have also been highly programmed in an equally clever and stealthy manner...

    Good luck to all, and discern you way through the coming wave of information battles, do not just try to use your "Heart" or "Intellect". Emotions and the Mnd are easily programmed by these groups via "Technology" and "Black Magic". So be careful with all of these video's, articles, blogs and postings... Opening your mind up to this stuff is entertaining but can have dire consequences!

    Dealing with more briefings of this topic, some more unrelated updates of more recent developments (And some very sad/weak attempts of Remote Influencing/Black Magic Targeting that has ended in immediate reverse karma on the attackers, They never learn...) has diverted my focus from completing my article corrections from the editor. I might just release as it (Flaws for people to criticize and all). I am cross posting this as an update to both: Thread: Veterans Today - disinformants getting bolder & Thread: Secret Space Program, ET Federation Delegation & MILAB "Experiencer", GoodETxSG "Q & A".
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    That's what I thought, too.
    Corey has been warning of the ramp up of disinfo and we can see the changes now.
    Not many have given specifics on the situation right now and what to expect shortly; others would only say 'soon' or 'can't say that' (as if they really knew).
    I wonder, too, if not Duff's true colors are showing after gathering a large, trusting following over the years.

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    Flyover,

    I've been hearing a lot of rumblings that there is a decisive rift in the veterans today staff. Many (including Stu Webb and other VT staff) are saying Duff is covering up for the military Jade Helm operation what the real agenda is. Time will tell.

    Personally, I'm not getting emotionally attached to any storyline. Best to keep emotions and energies balanced in the coming months.

    Peace and love!

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    Gordon Duff seems to think Jim Fetzer's gone off the deep end. Jim Fetzer seems to think Gordon Duff 's gone off the deep end. Gordon Duff seems to think Stew Webb's gone off the deep end. Stew Webb seems to think Gordon Duff 's gone off the deep end.

    Since I do not attach to (aka, worship) any one of them, makes no difference to me. It will all wash out.

    I only worship David Wilcock and "Corey the Goode", since they are clearly "Messengers from the Gods" (aka, the Birds... aka Blue Avians).

    Disclaimer: the last sentence might very well be "Kp disinfo"... ;-)

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