Don't forget around and up and overOriginally posted by Eelco
Don't forget around and up and over
Then it still is Free Will, because in the very moment that you're making a decision, it is you who is making that decision, and thus you who bears the responsibility for said decision. And that is actually one of the primary mechanisms behind Creation itself.
Of course, as Omni has already explained elsewhere, mind control can influence you in your decision-making, and mind control is a concept ranging all the way from indoctrination, propaganda and conditioning over to coercion via technological means or by contamination of your body and brain with mind-altering substances. In such cases -- i.e. coercion -- your Free Will has been completely taken away from you, and you bear no responsibility for your actions while you are under that influence.
Free Will is a multi-dimensional subject, because it weighs your sense of ethics against the information that you possess. You might be doing something because you feel that it is the right thing to do, but at the same time, you may not have all the information, and it could easily turn out that what you thought was the right thing to do would actually be very, very wrong.
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Free will is the choice to do one thing or the other.
I could have called a (girl)friend of mine yesterday, but I felt it would be smarter to do it today.
Choose and bare the consequences.
Are we talking about this within the confines of linear time? Non-linear time? Circular time? No time? If everything that ever was and will ever be is already 'written', what's so 'free' about any of this?Then it still is Free Will, because in the very moment that you're making a decision, it is you who is making that decision, and thus you who bears the responsibility for said decision. And that is actually one of the primary mechanisms behind Creation itself.
Of course, as Omni has already explained elsewhere, mind control can influence you in your decision-making, and mind control is a concept ranging all the way from indoctrination, propaganda and conditioning over to coercion via technological means or by contamination of your body and brain with mind-altering substances. In such cases -- i.e. coercion -- your Free Will has been completely taken away from you, and you bear no responsibility for your actions while you are under that influence.
Free Will is a multi-dimensional subject, because it weighs your sense of ethics against the information that you possess. You might be doing something because you feel that it is the right thing to do, but at the same time, you may not have all the information, and it could easily turn out that what you thought was the right thing to do would actually be very, very wrong.
I would say that my definition there was focusing on the moment of the decision-making, and therefore the Now.
It's more complicated than that. Everything may already be written, but you still bear the responsibility, because it is you making the decision, with the information that you have. Only the author knows how the novel ends -- and there may even be alternative endings -- but the reader has to find out as he/she goes along, and it's the characters in the novel who make the decisions. Only, in their case, of course, they don't have Free Will, because it was the author who made them do and say whatever it is that they do and say.
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I would say that my definition there was focusing on the moment of the decision-making, and therefore the Now.
The 'Now'?! Defined precisely by whose yardstick??
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There is only the Now, Pris. I don't see how anyone could possibly have different yardsticks for that.
The moment is the moment. It's where the focus of your consciousness is when you are making a decision.
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That was a rhetorical question.
That's got everything to do with Tai Ming - an extraterrestrial martial art.
Some things can only be said once.
Watched the vid, Pris?That was a rhetorical question.
Super informative/interesting!
And only 11:29...
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Got link?....You at least have to give us a link when you say these sort of things. Who's martial art is it, the Blue Lesbians from the Chlamydia nebula?Tai Ming an extraterrestrial martial art.
And why the hell does it have a Chinese name, dear God, ET doesn't have a good imagination at all, either that or the Chinese are to lazy to come up with their own language.
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I had always thought that a "consciousness shift" was actually a shift in POV (point of view).
And this applies to individuals who eventually form collectives.
It is easy to recognize that the vast majority of humanity has slipped into being comfortable and this facilitates a small number within humanity to steer the direction it all goes. All parties sharing in the responsibility.
Yes, that is what I myself also believe, Sam. I think that too many people in the so-called alternative community are hoping for the consciousness shift to be something exotic, that they would suddenly become godlike or something like that. That, in my humble opinion, would rather be a pipe dream than a realistic vision for the future.
Yes... We often use the expression that the majority of humanity is asleep and needs to awaken, and that is actually not such a far-fetched description. When one is asleep, one's consciousness is very narrow and one's energetic signature -- i.e. that which we call "vibrations" -- is very low.
The problem is that Mankind has become intellectually lazy. Humanity has allowed itself to be lulled asleep by all the consumerist gadgets, ego games, social status, dumbing-down soap operas and commercial ads, political propaganda, territorial disputes, and above all, the struggle to survive in the highly competitive corporate world, feeding the very machine that consumes us.
Sad, innit?
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I made it up myself, or actually my Guardian Angel did, she has a black belt in Tai Ming, if I may believe her - and why not?
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