You Are Not Your Thoughts

[Aianawa]

Just come across this and although I have heard this before, would love to hear others points of view >



What you try to do is you try to push out some things and keep the others. That is the mistake. You say this is good, that is evil. That is the problem. You say this is sacred, this is profane. That is the problem. You have to accept all that is there. You accept the most beautiful thoughts and you have to accept the most terrible thoughts because they are all happening inside of you. That is the truth.

Thoughts are millions of years old. They are not your thoughts. They are just flowing through you. That�s all. The structure of thoughts does not change. Only the object has changed. Thought has remained the same. Thought is essentially measurement. It is comparison. Ancient man was measure and comparing. You also do. He was comparing how many cows he had, how much the neighbor had. You are comparing how many cars you have, how many the neighbor has.

Comparing is thought. It is measurement. All thought is measurement. It is comparison. It does not change. They are not your thoughts. They are there. So your thoughts are not your thoughts.

Your mind. What is the mind? The mind is full of thoughts and the mind is a human mind. It�s very, very ancient. The same structure: fear, jealously, anger, hatred, worry about the past, worrying about the future. It has not changed at all. Only the objects have change. Desire is there. You had desire for a spear. You have desire for money. That�s all. You had fear of the saber-toothed tiger. You have fear of the share market. That�s all. The structure is the same and the mind is very, very ancient. So your mind is not your mind. It�s very, very ancient. It is just there. You assume it is yours. So your mind is not your mind.

Your body. Your body is not your body. You did not design your body. It was designed millions of years ago. The same structure: the nose is here, the ear is here, breathe in oxygen, give out carbon dioxide. It�s been the same for millions of years. You did not design it. You did not create it. You did not conceive it. You did nothing in fact. How come it is your body? It�s not your body at all. You have to think about it. Contemplate on that.

Then the self, the sense of separation. That�s again an illusion. It depends upon how fast the senses are coordinating�slightly slow down, the sense of separation is gone. There is only oneness. You don�t exist as an independent entity at all. There is no separate existence. Not at all. Just another big illusion. Your self is only a concept.

Now how to understand this? A very simple example would help you understand this. Mainly the dress that you�re wearing, you did not design the dress. You did not tailor that dress. You did not weave the textile in the textile mill. You did not grow the cotton or create the polyester that has gone into the dress. In no way are you involved with the dress. How do you say it is your dress? It�s not at all your dress.

Similarly your thoughts are not your thoughts. Your mind is not your mind. Your body is not your body. The self is only a concept. The moment you become awakened you�re out of all this and you see your thoughts automatically happening. You see your speech automatically happening and you see your actions. You may think you�re moving your arm by your control. It�s not so. You can watch the brain in real time. Moments before you decide to move your hand the brain had decided to move the hand. It�s only the illusion that you have decided to move your hand.

Now the problem is you�re identifying yourself with your thoughts, with your mind, with your body and the so-called self. This we call anatma. Anatma in Sanskrit which means false identification. And why is there this false identification? Because of what we call in Sanskrit pragnaparada or failure of intelligence which is what we try to awaken in level 2. Because of failure of intelligence you�re having wrong identification which leads to a sense of separation. The sense of separation is the cause of all problems. All problems inside yourself are caused because of this sense of separation. All problems with the family are caused because of this sense of separation. All problems in your country are caused because of this sense of separation. All problems in the world arise because of this sense of separation.

If you remove the sense of separation then there are no problems in the individual, no problems in the family, no problems in the nation, no problems in the world. That is the root cause of all problems. To be free of the self is the only revolution.

The only solution to all our problems is to ultimately awaken where we lose this sense of separation. That is the real problem

I contemplate while being, dream creating reality to sneeze and have fruitfullll bogies lol.
That's me having a world in here and world out there, glimpse ATM lol.

[Aianawa]

I often reflect on this part, at the start of above writing >


What you try to do is you try to push out some things and keep the others. That is the mistake. You say this is good, that is evil. That is the problem. You say this is sacred, this is profane. That is the problem. You have to accept all that is there. You accept the most beautiful thoughts and you have to accept the most terrible thoughts because they are all happening inside of you. That is the truth.


Because though a simple truth, for myself, I take much data in from the outside world that I choose to, that is basically thought pollution, so if not released as such, it can regurgitate. It is like getting it twice.

[Aianawa]

Twice, well why, very silly indeed in the first place, my thoughts intermingled with this, to get or collect good data pieces amongst a garbage dump, pah really, do I storm off to the ****ed and annoyed thread one thought created to another, is it not enough to know paved harmony is already now gently futuring on our soles beneath let alone above and heart centre, geeeeze start another thread on thoughts annoying each other or cannibalizing thought armies battling for attention, come dine with me the ancient mind, no no come adventuring with me the distracted wondering left brain cause that righty has issues, please please sit in the centre nimble grasshopperer, ffs the end of thoughts naked body must indeed be gods carress. Mmmm a massage from god would be like spiritual masturbation, does the birth of amnesia here justify the end or the thrill of death avoidance create humanities devil, as both eventualllly lead to the man in the mirror.

[Aianawa]

Stuff thoughts, bloody energy seekers, passion drainers really, weres been using thoughts manipulation a long time now also, talk to someone who been living bush as such for a while, bush been creating/being their thoughts, lol send all crazies to the bush to mend, that's a lot of people but we still have enough bush left still.

[Dreamtimer]

There's lots of nature where I am and it's not the wilderness. Even just going barefoot and watching some life do it's thing for a while works, imho.

Being calm and happy 'sours the milk', eh?

[Aianawa]

Sours ?, Great thread that adds weight > https://jandeane81.com/showthread.ph...jack-Democracy , But once you know what ya gonna do ?, lol no thing to then know perfect action ?

[Aianawa]

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8spXOGPuHA

[Aianawa]

Recently I observed myself not observing myself, grumpy Aianawa expressing himself, saw on reflection the suppression and a biggie, Shame around expressing myself at an early age, I never saw the Shame side of things until doing a group share last nite ( meditation and blessing evening ), I spoke of the reflection of observing myself not observing and as I spoke, the word then feeling of Shame joined the speak. Low and behold I observed myself not observing again late last nite and on awaking this morning, interesting times, riding the wave, surf board appears awefulllly small lol.

[Aianawa]

That small surf board being my perception.

Now being still, the ocean is calm, storms but known and distant, onion layers greets its accuser.

[Synagex]

In ancient records of sorts there is a creation myth or fact that the creation of this universe came from vibration.

Goes something like this.

In the beginning was the word the vibration of creation. Now this is true but before the word was the thought and this is the Initial creative reaction from balanced polarity.

A lot of people are always trying so hard to stop there thoughts and be in a reactive state, this procces is OK if you feel you need a rest but if you want to get on with evolvement then you need your thoughts disciplined thoughts to get creating.

The universe was designed by the original thought, if you want a break sit on the side lines in no mind and be an observer. If you want to go with the flow of one of this universes signatures then get thinking and creating and get of the bench and be a participant of this amazing universe created by thought.

Disciplined positive life surporting thoughts.

All you need is love, enthusiasm and a good dose of creative imagination. Mix this with a powerful will and BOOM you are creating in a free will creative universe.

[Aianawa]

There was not to long ago a meeting of mayan shamans ( pre 2012 ), real ones as such, mind known, the word got out, to find the meeting place one needed to be in the flow and to know, a gatekeeper was positioned at entrance, his first question was what was before the beginning, answered correctly this got you around the fire, the fire circle had no question but a task, to join the others who completed it also, exploration and potentials were created, messages for others downloaded, circles sorted, the spider web twanged.

In the beginning was the darkness, the void, which angled and morphed to know itself.

[Synagex]

There was not to long ago a meeting of mayan shamans ( pre 2012 ), real ones as such, mind known, the word got out, to find the meeting place one needed to be in the flow and to know, a gatekeeper was positioned at entrance, his first question was what was before the beginning, answered correctly this got you around the fire, the fire circle had no question but a task, to join the others who completed it also, exploration and potentials were created, messages for others downloaded, circles sorted, the spider web twanged.

In the beginning was the darkness, the void, which angled and morphed to know itself.

OK can't wait I give in.. What was before the beginning ?

I would at that moment stand as complete awareness in a no mind but alert ballanced polarity state.

Did I get in ?????

[Aianawa]

Why would you want in, do you feel you would be summonded, connected with that consciounes ( mayan ), do you feel the need to get somewhere, to be ?.

The one of many answers was the last line of post, Syn.

[Synagex]

Why would you want in, do you feel you would be summonded, connected with that consciounes ( mayan ), do you feel the need to get somewhere, to be ?.

The one of many answers was the last line of post, Syn.

Invites would be rare. Summoned would be ignored.

No where to go no need to be somwhere all in one one in all. The meeting is in the mind the momementary experience is all that can be experienced.

This meeting would be to know yourself as the darkness to be illuminated as the light of your awareness to come into spontaneous creativity as you bring balance between the darkness of the unknown potential with the light of creative thought.

The task of the ring of fire is to bring balanced polarity between fire and ice or electric and magnetic, light and darkness or balanced polarity then movement.

Balanced polarity for the gate keeper.

Movement of polaritys for the ring of fire.

[Aianawa]

Some see this as a great human mistake, to take ones inner world to use in the outer world.