The Plan (blogs by theruiner777)

[Daozen]

The average income earner are not the one's who manufacture nor distribute alcohol and cigarettes.

No, but they're the one's who buy it. If you want to keep putting all the responsibility on the ultra-rich, go ahead. What about all the plastic crap we buy? We play our own part in this.

[Chester]

OK, the rich are selfish, but why blame it all on them? What about average income earners, who collectively spend a 1-2 billion a year on cigarettes and alcohol?

The last several posts I made did not blame it all on "them." It clearly suggested the responsibility for this falls on each of our shoulders.

In addition, the Ruiner blog as my posts as well as the posts of many others point out that benevolent ETs, who have observed the patterns of Humanity on Earth over the last thousands and thousands of years have realized that "help" did not help. That any further "help" simply becomes enabling a further degradation in the human beings understanding of their own personal responsibility in the conditions they currently face.

We are pointing out to the few who may have eyes to see and ears to hear that at this point any "ET race promising help" may actually have their own best interests in mind and that these interests likely are NOT in the best interests of humanity. The Ruiner (for those who can remember) happens to point out our pattern such that we might, this time... break the cycle.

Words such as "blame" deflect the matter as that word avoids the actual issue - the absence of personal self responsibility and each of us (in all our past lives and many in their current life) as this manifests as the overall collective experience.

All the signs show we are following the latest pied pipers to fulfilling the agenda of our next masters... those few bred as psychopaths and the heartless human sellouts who are to be left in charge as the Draco leave us to our fate.

No, but they're the one's who buy it. If you want to keep putting all the responsibility on the ultra-rich, go ahead. What about all the plastic crap we buy? We play our own part in this.

Yes - it is ALL of us who bear responsibility.

The current crowdfunding scene is concrete proof that we are still focused on trivial nonsense. It's NOT all the TPTW's fault. On the positive side, crowdfunding is proof we are slowly getting our act together. It will take time.

But that's cool, we have held the darks to a standoff, and still have time to get on a better timeline.

We ARE the darks as well as the Lights... when we see and understand this, we might actually see changes.

Time never runs out for eternal life... here's a message - just from me... I am thinking it up now...

Is it not life that's most important to beings who manifest within any expression of form? Whether spiritual (less dense) realms or the material (denser) realms? So what makes "life"" different from "existence."

Try "meaning." Try looking carefully at your own ongoing experience. Is their meaning in it? Or is it filled with comfort and distraction while you march towards the next death of one of your physical bodies?

Do you feel empowered?

Are you in communication (the experience of numerous meaningful and profound synchronicities) with the Reality, Herself as She manifests? (using metaphor there).

If so... stay on your course, stay in you belief system, rely on these "friends" who bring you the next financial system (Chinese hegemony to replace the Western Cabal hegemony - thank you Ben), the next living hero (Putin... yet don't ask Russian homosexuals their opinion)...

[ERK]

No, but they're the one's who buy it. If you want to keep putting all the responsibility on the ultra-rich, go ahead. What about all the plastic crap we buy? We play our own part in this.

The average human is asleep as you know.

[Daozen]

How are you able to verify well enough for yourself that the planet is wired to be blown? (As perhaps may have happened with the mythical Tiamat)?

I am not 100 per cent sure. I have not seen the bombs for myself, but I have had enough face to face contact with insiders to verify it to the best of my ability. There must be some reason that a few hundred thousand self proclaimed elite can keep 7 billion people in a state of semi-imprisonment. I think it runs deeper than simple species immaturity.

The key phrase here is semi-imprisonment. We are under certain contraints, but there are viable exit routes open to us.

It's not something I think about a lot, as emphasizing that aspect only increases the disempowerment myth.

Say I'm wrong, and our planetary situation really is just a question of maturity. OK. In that case, we still need to strategize our way out of here. So I will focus on solutions.

Maybe this thread would be more useful if we focused on how to get out of here. Anyway, interesting discussing this. It gives me some interesting points of view to bounce off for my own writing.

[ERK]

Viable exit routes to where? Get out of where? Off the planet or you mean the mess we are in?

[Daozen]

The average human is asleep as you know.

That makes no difference. That only means the conversation goes from blaming the elite, to blaming 'the masses'. In both cases, responsibility is shifted from the individual, to some outside agent 'oppressing' the speaker. These external agents exist, but are over emphasized and exaggerated to provide a comfortable cocoon of warm disempowerment.

It only take 3 per cent of humans to get their act together to cause change on a macro level. But I'm not here to push anyone to do anything. I just want an online notepad to sharpen my writing, and get my own thoughts together. I don't want anyone to think I am trying to get them to do something, as that goes against the laws of universal free will.

[Daozen]

Viable exit routes to where? Get out of where? Off the planet or you mean the mess we are in?

If agriculture is a mess, use hydroponics and solar dehydration. If water is a mess, use purification sachets and Lifestraws. If finance is a mess, use crowd-funding and micro-finance. And so on... But that takes a sustained effort over many years.

As the Ruiner said: Get off your damn knees. That goes for all of us. I am still halfway through resurrecting my own life.

[Chester]

I am not 100 per cent sure. I have not seen the bombs for myself, but I have had enough face to face contact with insiders to verify it to the best of my ability. There must be some reason that a few hundred thousand self proclaimed elite can keep 7 billion people in a state of semi-imprisonment. I think it runs deeper than simple species immaturity.

The key phrase here is semi-imprisonment. We are under certain contraints, but there are viable exit routes open to us.

It's not something I think about a lot, as emphasizing that aspect only increases the disempowerment myth.

Say I'm wrong, and our planetary situation really is just a question of maturity. OK. In that case, we still need to strategize our way out of here. So I will focus on solutions.

Maybe this thread would be more useful if we focused on how to get out of here. Anyway, interesting discussing this. It gives me some interesting points of view to bounce off for my own writing.

Great Post and thank you and I agree completely that at least "a thread" along these lines that doesn't advertise anyone's paradigm or role is a great idea. I hope you would start that so that we allow this thread to remain on its primary focus - which is the blog of the Ruiner as it continues to unfold.

[ERK]

If agriculture is a mess, use hydroponics and solar dehydration. If water is a mess, use purification sachets and Lifestraws. If finance is a mess, use crowd-funding and micro-finance. And so on... But that takes a sustained effort over many years.

As the Ruiner said: Get off your damn knees. That goes for all of us. I am still halfway through resurrecting my own life.

I agree with you, I just wasn't sure what angle you were coming from (like exit to a Mars colony).

[Daozen]

If the Ruiner thinks my posts are off topic he can PM me. It's his thread, and his call as to what's off topic and what isn't. He PM'd me a couple of weeks back about my contributions to his blog, saying he enjoyed reading my posts. I think my posts here tonight fit right under 'get off your damn knees' There's not much point in starting a separate thread as I'm not posting here much any more.

If you think my posts are not on topic, you can just skim or ignore them.

[Ria]

Real experiencers don't engage much with there material on forums we have a reluctant one here, as his blog was for a relivent group of people. What I mean by relivent is that the group of people taking over the "rains" are working with an old para-dime which is the slave system, the intendion is to show the bigger picture with a view to voluntarily bring in a benign shift in consciousness and reallesing the old slave paradigm.

Even those at the seeming top of the pyramid are a slave to the one just above. And the one at the top is a slave to maintaining the structure. Hey, let's not feel sorry for them. Lol.

There is a current problem, people out of desperation latching on to any one who can spin a good story and fain all manner of things to gain trust, money and misrepresent others material for their own gain and defame the genuin originators. Be wary of defamers motivations. No different from any other religion coming to save us.

[Chester]

That makes no difference. That only means the conversation goes from blaming the elite, to blaming 'the masses'. In both cases, responsibility is shifted from the individual, to some outside agent 'oppressing' the speaker. These external agents exist, but are over emphasized and exaggerated to provide a comfortable cocoon of warm disempowerment.

It only take 3 per cent of humans to get their act together to cause change on a macro level. But I'm not here to push anyone to do anything. I just want an online notepad to sharpen my writing, and get my own thoughts together. I don't want anyone to think I am trying to get them to do something, as that goes against the laws of universal free will.

Reading your last several posts is refreshing as I am seeing someone that says... you know what? I really DON'T know some of these things. And guess what? Sam Hunter doesn't either.

And yet what you have done is shift all the conversation away from "whose paradigm may be right" to what we both agree with which is... what are we each, individually doing about it.

Thank You as you are giving me a feeling that though you (just as I) am human, your focus is more on solutions (and not just messages).

I recently pledged to a crowd funding effort generated by Dr. Salla that attempted to raise $20K so that he could bring his research as to the real reasons why they killed JFK to the public via a documentary. I was really sad that the funding failed. It is my opinion that if we understand our true history then we might better see ways we can adjust the coarse. - see his book Kennedy's Last Stand if interested (posted to readers as I suspect this is not new info to Contact Point).

[Daozen]

Maybe we can refocus by writing questions that come to mind, and the Ruiner can read them and maybe include anything that interests him in his blog.

I'm interested in what he thinks about Lemuria and The Agartha Network.

I also wonder if he thinks the craft Atlantis is still around in the skies right now, and if there are other Air Cities currently around Earth. (I think there are, but I wonder what his opinion is)

I was wondering what would influence the Draco to leave, if they are unaffected by our increasingly positive vibration.

Does he also think there is an etheric shell around Earth, which will be destroyed by the coming wave? "The wave is coming, we have felt it building for some time now. You know as well as anyone that no one knows for sure how this will effect things. These unpredictable events have already begun. All eyes on deck."

I understand he doesn't have much free time, but these questions are all rattling round in my head.

[Daozen]

Reading your last several posts is refreshing as I am seeing someone that says... you know what? I really DON'T know some of these things. And guess what? Sam Hunter doesn't either.

And yet what you have done is shift all the conversation away from "whose paradigm may be right" to what we both agree with which is... what are we each, individually doing about it.

Thank You as you are giving me a feeling that though you (just as I) am human, your focus is more on solutions (and not just messages).

I think one of the Ruiner's major messages is that we have been given a stay of execution, and we need to get our act together, right?

I think it's easy to get involved in circular disagreements over peripheral topics, when we should be focusing on how we can work together.

I definitely don't want to come over like I think I know it all. Lots of pretend know-it-all's and nutrasweet gurus on the net, followed by their legions of update beggars and intel whores. Ria just said the same thing, in different words.

There is a current problem, people out of desperation latching on to any one who can spin a good story and fain all manner of things to gain trust, money and misrepresent others material for their own gain and defame the genuine originators. Be wary of defamers motivations. No different from any other religion coming to save us.

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Interesting conversation everyone. We have etheric technology focused on us, which makes us ALL slow, and stupid. It has taken me years to get my act together, and I still struggle with the basics. As the etheric technology is switched off, we'll regain more of our brainpower.

This is a galactic breakfast club, and we are going to have to help each other.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfIcZtjAch8

[Chester]

Just a comment.... what a refreshing conversation this has all evolved into. Amazing we can do this when folks seek the common ground and solutions...

I definitely don't want to come over like I think I know it all. Lots of pretend know-it-all's and nutrasweet gurus on the net, followed by their legions of update beggars and intel whores.

POW! Precisely.