Ledstar you should definitely start recording them. It's amazing the things you find when you go and review the footage afterward. Once you can slow down and freeze frames, you find so many crazy things are contained in one 5 to 10 minute film!
The entire universe we live in, the entire reality we experience, is so much more than we are taught.
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Yeah it seems everything seems not real now when you become more awake, as well as you feel like the stuff going on in the world is just BS.
Hi Ledstar, as the "plane" was so close if it was physically real ie one of ours surely there would b the sound which follows behind? Reguards, lbOriginally posted by Ledstar
Church, I was going to post something about this and start a thread as it was happening, but you beat me to it.. Anyway, yesterday and today while at work, I saw even though the sky was clear blue, this low flying plane which had about 5 streams of trails looking very wide would just show up, then simply vanish. It was weird. it made me think it was a fake holographic plane. It seemed very intimidating as it flew real close looking threatening then the trails didn't seem to stick but vanish, even though you'd think it would really spread out..it didn't. Within minutes the sky was empty and the plane to be found no where. As it flew over me I was trying to see the plane which seemed to be morphing and changing. Very strange..Should of filmed it..
Okay one day while driving down a highway, I saw this huge plane so close and flying across the highway plus it had 5 orbs silver solid flying with it. One at each wing and three in the back. It looked like the orbs were escorting the plane. They flew the same speed as if they were working with the plane. Of course everybody else driving and passing me fast didn't notice it. It flew directly over my car, thing is the plane was so big. I told someone about it and they said it was a military plane that carried soldiers. Last year while sitting in a parking lot there where three silver shape shifting things in the sky just sitting there, in a triangle pattern. As ppl walked out of the store I told them, 'Look what is that up there' a few didn't notice. This old lady stops, see's it and says.."that's a UFO"This guy looks up and says, that's a plane. These three things sat in the air, changing shape, then they all just dropped down behind a mountain. This is kind of the things I see where I live.
There was no sound to that big trail plane..complete silence lb.
Last edited by Ledstar, 8th April 2015 at 03:12.
Recently I've been taking pictures of these planes that leave trails. One seemed to have only one wing. I took several images as it moved across the sky. Always only one wing. I've noticed them coming in pairs, one a little ahead of the other. The front one is brilliant white. The second has a dark underside. They leave parallel trails. I took shots of a couple different pairs. Can't post them now but perhaps soon. I was fascinated by Crrow777's observation that he has never seen a commercial plane leave a trail. I hope to get some comparison shots.
Dreamtimer, you just touched on something that I've noticed too... These planes, they are never alone. When you see a plane leaving a trail, you will typically see another one close by, and it won't be leaving a trail, and it also looks totally normal, like an actual plane. This is always the case, in my experience. I almost believe that the fake planes time their passover to synchronize with an actual plane.
The other thing worth pointing out, is every single time I see one fake plane leaving a trail, I can always see 4 or 5 other ones, even further away, leaving trails too. This proves that they aren't being coordinated by the FAA, and that they aren't always on the actual flight path that goes over my city.
Another thing that I notice a lot is that the fake planes sometimes appear to rise upward from the horizon, then eventually appear to be traveling horizontally overhead, like planes do, and then they reach the opposite horizon by heading straight down vertically. The interesting thing about this is they are doing this in the span of under 5 minutes. I should probably time it one day to know for sure how long it is, but easily under 5 minutes. Can you imagine how fast a plane would have to travel in order to do that? But no one ever touches on that. When regular planes are flying overhead, we don't see them come up from the horizon! We see then come at us in a straight line. What I see is a flight path that appears to be following the curvature of the earth.
There are so many anomalies regarding these things that I would be stupid if I continued to think they are normal planes, with nothing to see here.
High strangeness indeed.
I'd like to add to the thread my experiences regarding airplanes being holograms/cloak tech.
We live near a couple small airports, a military base, and a major airport. We live in an apartment on the third floor so we have a good bird-eye view of the horizon with some tall trees partially obscuring the view. I remember the first night we first moved in, it was about 9-10pm. I went out on the balcony for some fresh air and to take in the beautiful view, then I noticed a glowing craft slowing making its way up out of the horizon(it seemed like it was rising out of the trees in the distance). It slowly moved to what would be about halfway to the regular airplane altitude of 39,000 feet then it stopped there hovering for about 5-10 minutes then finally ascended up to 40-39,000 feet and stopped for 5 more minutes. What happened next astounded me- the glowing craft dimmed its light and turned into an full fledged airplane with all the working lights you would typically see on an normal airplane. It looked like to me it was building up the hologram outside the craft, took about 2-3 seconds to do the conversion. It flew a bit faster than normal airplane speeds and left out of my sight behind the treeline as it got higher and higher.
And that was the last I saw of it. I have more sightings I would like to share but I think I'll just leave this here for now.
Oh, and I need to mention the craft I saw had a brilliant white glow, just like you were staring at a very miniature sun.
Phil Schieder was talking about the amazing Black Budget technology of the DUMB dwellers back in 1992, so I'm of the opinion that the Government is absolutely capable of everything we are seeing in so far as it relates to Chemtrails and the associated technology in so far as delivery of the chemtrail and frequenting the chemtrail.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYBns-KUopY
But, that doesn't disclude the possibility of extraterrestrial and or extradimensional involvement.
The orbs may be of extraterrestrial nature, scanning and or sampling the chemtrail components.
Or
And this is what I was thinking while on a walk a few nights ago.
The chemtrails are composed mostly of metal, alluminum mostly, but barium and strontium as well.
Being mostly metal, I find it quite possible the claims being made by folks that certain haarp instalations are energizing the chemtrails and creating a pulsating plasma.
The uses for energizing the chemtrails are purely speculative at this point, and ussually the rabbit hole in connection is mind control.
I've personally been of the opinion that monitoring UFO movement is a possibility, as most UFOs are not detected by radar and are invisible this may be of use in this arena.
Back to the Orb use I was pondering.
It may sound mundane but I find it possible the Orb is some kind of transformer in so far as it's constant proximity to chemtrails . As in the transformers we see on our power lines.
If chemtrails are indeed a type of plasma antenea, the plasma would need to be maintained at a certain frequency to be of use, hence the Orbs. It would also explain why the orbs occasionally are seen firing what looks like plasma into the chemtrails. Just a theory.
^ That, my friend, is the kind of intelligent comment that furthers the discussion. You just blew my mind, and now I need to think about this for a bit...
Very interesting that you posted this, I did some thinking on this for some time now.
I did ponder the possibility that the chemtrails are used as a medium for certain scalar based technology(HAARP, mind control, cellphone towers, etc) where the harmful EM waves travel through the air and chemtrails somehow enhance the EM waves. My take on the orbs- they could be covering them with energetic plasma that renders them almost or completely useless.
I did notice a correlation between the chemtrails and rain.. I noticed they would spray chemtrails right before we get rain in a day or 2, maybe that only applies to the area where I live. Maybe what's where the plasma from the orbs comes into play, cover them up and let them get washed away with little to no effect on us?
Of course this is just speculation on my part.
Iv noticed something else here.
It look like the airplanes make clouds with those chemtrails, but i cant prove it yet.
And those clouds can block the sky.
And when i see no stars in the sky, then they dont show them self.
it made me think they use real stars as a cover to hang around unoticed.
A bright star would easily be noticed when there are many clouds in the sky.
But when the sky is clear, then you can only see them if you know wich stars are up, and wich are "suddenly" new.
So what i see is that it look like two parties are doing something in the background.
One is after the other one, and one is hiding for them.
I saw helicopters and jets after those orbs, you could see the military is very primitive compare to them.
It was a joke to see that situation, like a man with a spear running behind a guy in a ferrari, and the guy in the ferrari hits the brakes anf gives gas, brakes and givesgas, brakes and gass and then gone.
But i also saw many white airplanes with no chemtrail.
One day i realized that they might be them when i saw four of them flying towards each other, like there busy with a stuntshow.
It happend in broad daylight and was excatly dangerous, i dont think a pilot would do that with a jumbo size craft.
And then four!
Thats impossible if you ask me, but it happend.
Btw just found your topic Church, i reconize all you saw, share and think about this phenomena.
I got one qeustion.
What was your first sighting?
And how close was the object?
I saw mine real good, it was alike a HELLO....
My story is slightly complicated. The first time I saw what I knew was a UFO was actually while I was on drugs. Yes, I used to use psychedelics in my 20s. But the thing is, I knew it was real, and not a part of the drug trip, because I was already very experienced with drug trips and this one was otherwise nothing new. But I went outside, and this thing was calling my attention to it by "oscillating" in a way that made it look like it was breathing. Because my pupils were dilated, making it hard to focus, I couldn't tell if it was far away or literally right above my property. In fact, it seemed to be doing both. There were moments when I thought for sure it was right above me, like 500 meters away or so, then other times where I thought it was way out in the stratosphere. But I stared at it, and talked to it saying things like "Are you real?" and "What can I do for you?" and things like that, and I felt I was receiving acknowledgments but not answers from the thing, while it made the "infinity" symbol in the sky with every question I asked. You know, the figure 8 turned on its side.. As dawn began to break, and the drugs had worn off, I distinctly recall seeing it get smaller and smaller until I saw that it had been positioning itself in front of the planet Venus the entire time. I actually saw the moment when its diameter got smaller than Venus, allowing Venus to become visible, until it turned into a pinpoint and disappeared altogether, leaving nothing but Venus in its place. I was so confused by that, and actually, felt letdown because even though I *knew* that I had seen a UFO, I would never be able to tell anyone because they wouldn't believe it, and they would say it was just Venus, the entire time. I even wanted desperately to believe that was what had happened, but I knew intuitively I had just seen my first UFO.
Well, fast forward about 7 or 8 years, and I had begun examining the strange aircraft I was seeing in the skies. I couldn't help but notice how they were flying upward from the horizon and following the curvature of the earth, disappearing in the opposite horizon a mere 5 minutes later, which I know to be impossible based on our current technology. So I began filming them with my Handycam. When I started noticing more strangeness with those daytime craft, I began staying outside into the night hours, and that was when I began noticing what I termed "the blinkies," which for me always originated in the vicinity of Sirius, which was a popular target for my telescope. (I'm also an amateur, hobbyist astronomer). When I began filming the blinkies, I quickly discovered that they weren't craft at all, and were just orbs, not a craft with blinking lights on it. So I filmed the crap out of those for a long time. This coincides with when I was posting about them a lot on TOT 1.0. They suddenly were just all over the sky, no matter if I was looking for them or not. I couldn't believe no one else was seeing them, but that was when I realized how brainwashed people truly are, and how no one even looks up at the sky anymore much less looks for anomalies.
Then my wife and I went on vacation in North Carolina. Through a series of synchronistic events, we ended up having to take an unnamed forest road up to the top of a mountain to setup a tent on public land, because all the campgrounds nearby us were booked, due to some music festival that was happening in the nearby town. So we setup a tent in this area where no one else was, and the weather was nice, so we decided to remove the tarp that covers the top of the tent, for some stargazing before we went to bed. We then got in our sleeping bag and laid down, preparing for sleep. That was when the absolute best sighting(s) happened to me yet, and still to this day... This one faint star that was in a collection of bright stars we were looking at decided to take off and shoot away from the star cluster, before making a zigzag shape in the sky, and then disappearing in a flash of light. The zigzag shape was like what you see a heartbeat looks like, on an ECG machine. Then poof it was gone. My wife turned to me and excitedly asked me DID I SEE THAT?! and I was like you're damn right I did! No craft can do that!! Then she pointed at this other star I was looking at and she said "Is that one?" And I had to say, "yes, I think it is," referring to this other, bright star in the sky which was already reminding me VERY much of the Venus UFO from all those years before. Mind you, this time I wasn't on any drugs other than the 2 bottles of beer I drank earlier. I wasn't even sleepy, so I can't blame it on that, either. It was just as bright and seemingly close to me as the Venus UFO appeared. Well, right after I said "I think so" it started flaring up and "dancing" in the sky. There was no room for guessing, no need for rubbing our eyes, this thing started moving around, making swirls, and just dancing in the sky, excitedly. It would always return to its "original" location, but it would sort of bob around like a floater on a fishing line. At some point during this event, my wife said (I will never EVER forget this), "It's doing somersaults!" I asked what she meant, since to me it just looked like a powerfully bright light that was oscillating, like it was breathing, and she said "It looks like a, what are those things called, the circle inside of another circle." I said, "A gyroscope?" And she said, "yes, it looks like a gyroscope surrounded in light!"
I was in awe, and I also was having an internalized communication with this "thing" where I was "being told" about a force field that I can create with my breath, and how I can expand that force field to contain my wife in it, since I was feeling somewhat frightened by this event, and the force field was already around me, and I could see it. It was weird. We eventually fell asleep, but at one point as I was fighting the sleep, I opened my eyes again and saw how the thing was in a different area of the sky but it quickly flew back down to where it "should have been." That was an interesting night. A couple of days later, when we were back home, I found the exact area where we were on Google Maps, and I was able to determine that the sighting could not be explained by Venus (I already knew that since you can never see Venus from Earth at that time of night. It is only visible at sunset or sunrise times.) or Jupiter, which are the only two objects in space that ever get that bright and prominent in our sky, with the exception of Sirius which scintillates in a way that this did not. Also, I found the name of the mountain we were on top of to be an interesting synchronicity: Looking Glass Mountain.
That was a lot longer than I expected this to be, but meh, I was reliving the event while typing it up so it was worth it.
I reported the event to MUFON-NC, which was the experience where I learned that MUFON is full of feces.
Thanks for sharing your story.
I honestly dont see any point to make a report about UFOs.
They will only report it for there own agenda.
And god knows what agenda is.
There for i never made a report there.
What must i say, i film UFOs everyday? They will not believe me.
I see more logic to share information with other skywatchers.
On this way some videos can explain something what someone else is worried about it, after this sighting.
And that make TOT THE place to share information.
Like your story, i never heard of it to be honest.
If you did not come here, i might never heard of it.
But you said they communicate with you?
IN what way?
What did you interpretate from there communications?
DId you ever saw a deer in your area?
And that star, was it rotating the hole time and sometimes it look like it go out of his regular rotation and then back?
While he do that, he slowly moves to the right.
There is a communication of sorts, yes, but not in the way that people would think, or want there to be, myself included. It's more of a "knowing." Like I will think a question and immediately "know" the answer. Or I will think a thought, and I will instantly have an understanding about how this relates to a previous event or experience. It's really hard to put into words. The best I can say is, I can remember thinking something like "are you a ship?" and I would instantly see an image of myself looking in a mirror, and have the clear thought that I'm not seeing a craft, but I'm seeing a being, and this being is alive and conscious, like I am. I know that doesn't explain much, but it speaks to me in a way that I can only interpret as imagery and geometry, but I don't consciously know what this imagery means, it's like the answer just comes out of me without cognitive process. I feel like I only confuse things more by trying to explain.
I'm assuming you mean in the area of the sightings, and no. Most of my sightings have been at my house, which is in the middle of a big city, so we don't see deer here. BUT, what you just asked me instantly made me remember something about the North Carolina UFO that I had completely forgotten about until right now, and you just triggered the memory! The morning after the UFO sighting, as we were driving back down the lonely forest road back out to the main highway, there was a tall bird (at least 1.5 meters tall) in the road that made us stop and wait for it to walk off of the road before we could pass. But it stood there in the middle of the road, just staring at us, before it turned and disappeared into the brush. I remember I tried to figure out what kind of bird it was, after the fact, and never found a conclusive answer. It reminded me of what we have here in central Florida, the Great Heron, but I don't think that was it. It was taller. Not sure if that matters to the discussion, but since you asked about a deer, you reminded me about the bird.DId you ever saw a deer in your area?
YES! It acts like it is moving through the sky the way that other stars do, but it is "inaccurate" about it. It seems to realize every so often that it should adjust itself and get into a better position based on where it should be to the people on the ground looking at it, so it adjusts, but it isn't as smoothly moving through the sky in reference to Earth's rotation as real stars do.And that star, was it rotating the hole time and sometimes it look like it go out of his regular rotation and then back?
While he do that, he slowly moves to the right.
I feel you, my first encounter came 30 seconds after i said to my woman.
"We cant say what they are, until we see some kind of action of them" I said those words after 34 minutes of filming them flying above my home right after new year's eve 2013/2014
Like that was coincidence!
One of them came directly towards our window, it came as close as ten meters.
There must be a connection.
Here is my first video filmed with a philips handycam with 5 x optical, the only cam i could get my hands on that moment.
BUt put the video on 33 minutes and then see what happend.
You cant see good what it is, but you can see that we saw it.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIWXPDTj7Tw
And what we saw was this.
The object in this video is identical with what we saw on new year's eve fly over.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmQVii6BoX4
And i had countless encounters what look like they heard me?
Or they know what i think and react on that?
Because it happend so many times, that they must heard me or know where am about to look.
I mean come on, i look up and see a moving star for 10 seconds and then vanish!
Or i see two falling stars after each other, i look up and there is one and i turn my head and another one!
And about those thoughts, the truth is it sure look like i get answers from something or somewhere.
It saved my life a couple of times, or i know excatly what to say on the right moment!
I tell you my friend, iv been in situations where others would be screwd but i talked meself out of them.
That even i thought after words with the thought, did i say that?
But who or why or how i cant explain.
Am a rational thinker and like to seek the logic in everytime, but with this phenomena logic dont work.
Think i start to realize what einstein ment, logic bring you from a to b but imagination can bring you everywhere.
So for me its needed to get out of the box to find answers.
Logic dont seems to work here.
I see star hover and 5 minutes later it changed in a full jumbo jet size?
Am no air or rocket scientist but a airplane with the size of a jumbo jet cant hover or fly in walk speed.
I saw one time that one fly over my head real low!
I saw no shape, nothing.
ONly lights and a weird engine sound, cant even call it a engine.
it sounded more like the sound from a saucer straight out of a B scifi movie.
Sometimes the regular things make our brains not think any further in a strange way.I'm assuming you mean in the area of the sightings, and no. Most of my sightings have been at my house, which is in the middle of a big city, so we don't see deer here. BUT, what you just asked me instantly made me remember something about the North Carolina UFO that I had completely forgotten about until right now, and you just triggered the memory! The morning after the UFO sighting, as we were driving back down the lonely forest road back out to the main highway, there was a tall bird (at least 1.5 meters tall) in the road that made us stop and wait for it to walk off of the road before we could pass. But it stood there in the middle of the road, just staring at us, before it turned and disappeared into the brush. I remember I tried to figure out what kind of bird it was, after the fact, and never found a conclusive answer. It reminded me of what we have here in central Florida, the Great Heron, but I don't think that was it. It was taller. Not sure if that matters to the discussion, but since you asked about a deer, you reminded me about the bird.
I mean, what kind of bird is 1.5 meter tall and sit in the middle of a road and then its right after a sighting?
That sounds more like one of those pieces of the puzzle to see if you can make the connection with the bird and the sightings.
I had the same, i drived to my hotspot and suddenly saw two deers on the road.
They looked at me and run of into the farmland.
I completly ignored it in some way but i said it to my woman, my woman said, there are no deers here.
The area is to small for a deer, birds yes but no deer.
So i cant prove they are connected but i cant dismiss it eather because it is a deer, i must think out of the box to find answers and keep every un answer qeustion open.
Like why did a deer walk there?
It might be nothing but i know deers and birds seems to be related with UFOs in other stories, if they are true i dont know.
But am not gonna dismiss it until i know the facts.
[/QUOTE]YES! It acts like it is moving through the sky the way that other stars do, but it is "inaccurate" about it. It seems to realize every so often that it should adjust itself and get into a better position based on where it should be to the people on the ground looking at it, so it adjusts, but it isn't as smoothly moving through the sky in reference to Earth's rotation as real stars do.
Yeah they seems to hang around here.
I also filmed a weird one last night, it was around 2.30
It was a ovale shape star??
I thought ok, never saw that before.
I made a few pictures and a few videos and did not analyze it properly yet.
But it sure looked strange.
So they must be related or they are the same , i dont know lol
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